AgentSmith opened this issue on Oct 18, 2006 · 94 posts
AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 2:21 PM
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Starship_Yard posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 2:33 PM
WARNING!!
If you want your BRYCE 6.0 RIGHT AWAY, do NOT order the Content DVD in the same order. My purchase is "being processed" because some of the items (ala the DVD) are not available yet. Hence my credit card has not been billed and I'm stuck in limbo even through I checked the "send out of stock items separately".
Hopefully this will be fixed shortly.
Brett
AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 2:38 PM
Good spot.
Make seperate transactions.
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moonhawk posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 2:43 PM
I am majorly (is that a word?) DROOLING over here! But budget being what it is, I'll just have to wait.
Phooey!
AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 2:54 PM
It's not going anywhere. ;o)
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Peggy_Walters posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 3:02 PM
Wow, great price! Originally when I heard the Bryce 6 was going to come out I decided I would not bother upgrading (thinking it was going to be in the 100 to 129 dollar range). 6 BUCKS!!!! Oh yeah, I got it all and was still under $50. Now just have to wait for my download link. Didn't see the message about ordering the DVD seperate. Oh well, bet DAZ's servers are getting overloaded anyway...
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AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 3:07 PM
Lol...the Content DVD page lists all the contributing artists. I don't know if anyone will know some of them by their real names. ;o)
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sackrat posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 3:23 PM
Are you hosing me ? Is this for real ? Holy Ned !!! OK,...........who's downloading ?...................I want to hear some feedback,............any bugs,.......major FUBAR incidents. Smithy,.......are you getting it ? If so, I want to see HDRI renders, ASAP.
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AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 3:25 PM
You'll see some HDRI renders later today/tonight, promise.
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chohole posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 3:33 PM
woohoo! ordered it, now to find a quiet time to download.
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draculaz posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 3:35 PM
downloaded, installed. nice puke green interface..
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AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 3:44 PM
snicker (wondered how long that would take)
Would be nice to have gui color presets we could choose from.
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draculaz posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 3:47 PM
well it was 6 bucks...
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AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 4:10 PM
Rofl...yup.
Maybe we can CSS Style Bryce 6? :o}
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tom271 posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 4:24 PM Online Now!
You need a Platinum card in order to get Bryce 6 for $6.00......
Otherwise it is $99.00...
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maraich posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 4:24 PM
I'm downloading now - it's going surprisingly fast.
draculaz posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 4:29 PM
tom, get the platinum thing. it's worth it. it's green man, it's green!!!
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ariannah posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 4:29 PM
Would love to lose that green myself (and this from a foliage lover, lol).
AS, methinks you're on to something about having a customizable GUI interface. ;-D
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draculaz posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 4:31 PM
sorry, that's bryce 7.
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ariannah posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 4:33 PM
LMAO drac!
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AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 4:34 PM
Bryce 7.0 will be out "soon".
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TwoPynts posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 4:39 PM
I guess I'm joining the DAZ3D Platinum club! :)
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artbyphil posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 4:41 PM
Is there a n update deal for people who bought 5.5 but are not in the platnum club?, can't see one
draculaz posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 4:42 PM
yeah, you should have it in your account. you get the bonuspack for free
Barzoff posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 4:44 PM
Now, THE QUESTION that all Mac users are waiting for the answer. Is the loading large file bug fixed? You know, the fix that we are waiting for a year and a half now.
AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 4:48 PM
I can't say for certain, better to ask an actual DAZ employee over at DAZ, but...I would assume they would eventually have upgrade packages available for purchase.
In the past, those details come up later in the day/next day. (for some reason)
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sackrat posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 4:49 PM
Yeah, yeah,..........enough of this idle chit chat ! How does B6 perform ? Does anybody other than me have dual CPU's ? Does it utilize them in a useful manner ? How long are the HDRI renders taking ? Do they look good ? Is the "Sunlight Soft Shadows" bug fixed ? I don't care what color the gui is. Facts,.......stats,..........that's what I need. Inquiring minds want to know these things !
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samsiahaija posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 4:54 PM
If you get yourself a one month PC membership, it will get you Bryce 6 for $6,- a voucher for $5,- (Meaning you get Bryce 6 for $1,-), you can get the Bryce content DVD at 50% off the discount price, you get 50% off Daz originals until the end of the month, and you get a coupon for ten free items out of the platinum bonus pack, along with the opportunity to get yourself a wide range of items at the price of $1,99 for a month - I really don't see where you can go wrong there.
And there's this additional thing about the release of Victoria 4 before the end of the month, most probably at a Platinum Club discount as well.
(And not, I'm not employed by DAZ...)
draculaz posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 5:02 PM
v4? wtf is that?
lazycatstudio posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 5:06 PM
Victoria4, their next big Poser figure
AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 5:06 PM
The sunlight soft shadow bug? You mean where the Sky Lab soft shadow would not stay switched on? That was fixed in b5.5, or at least I never had anymore problems with that since B5.5
HDRI speed; Using HDRI's for reflections, etc, etc, and for IBL (Image Based Lighting) slows down any render in any 3D program, by its nature its just more complex lighting, and by the nature of using an image to drive the lighting...it is automatic soft shadows.
That being said, its not that bad. You will find that different HDRI's will render a scene faster than others (I'm assuming this has to do with the complexity of the actual HDRI image, and how many exposure layers were used to create said HDRI image.
HDRI Quality Slider - This is the speed killer. This is the variable that will dictate the quality of the soft shadows. I do not suggest ramping this up to 100 and then complaining about render speeds. I'm telling ya right now, I have yet to see a scene that has a real noticable difference in its shadows with a quality of 25 vs a quality of 100. So, in short, keep it under 25, imo. And, in some scenes where the ground/floor is rougher than say a flat color on a flat plane...I have set the quality to zero. Still looks great.
How do the HDRI images look? I would say Bryce 6 has taken a very firm step further towards realism. I'll show you later on today, I have one in the hopper.
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draculaz posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 5:12 PM
and this is public knowledge?
cause i never heard of it.
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gillbrooks posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 5:17 PM
Wishlist for Bryce 7 - something resembling V*e EcoSystems :)
Gill
draculaz posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 5:18 PM
what... multireplicator ain't enough? sheesh...
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AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 5:20 PM
The above is just from my experimentation.
I just wanted to give an HDRI heads up. I remember when Bryce could suddenly have more rays per pixel (v5.0), and everyone maxed them out thinking it would suddenly look like a Maya render, but the difference was slight with an exponential increase in render times.
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Starship_Yard posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 5:33 PM
Guess another warning has appeared.
Bryce 6.0 and Windows XP Pro 64 bit evidently have some issues that aren't sorted out yet. Better double check if your planning to run it on XP 64 that it will be compatible for you (might have to check with tech support by the thread I'm seeing).
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Starship_Yard posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 5:39 PM
Quote - Wow, great price! Originally when I heard the Bryce 6 was going to come out I decided I would not bother upgrading (thinking it was going to be in the 100 to 129 dollar range). 6 BUCKS!!!! Oh yeah, I got it all and was still under $50. Now just have to wait for my download link. Didn't see the message about ordering the DVD seperate. Oh well, bet DAZ's servers are getting overloaded anyway...
Actually I was able to force payment on my order about 2 hours after placing the initial order. It wouldn't work for me for the first while, but eventually (an hour ago) I was able to:
My Account -> Order History -> Order #xxxx -> and down towards the bottom was a Payment Section. I clicked "Pay for this order now", and I was able to get it to bill my credit card, the download LINKS appeared in my Downloads AND my serial number arrived via email.
As for the servers being swamped, it seems DAZ was prepared this time and must have a major troubleshooting team onsite fixing anything coming up. I was able to download all the files (and there are quite a few if you get the Bonus Pack), each anywhere from 10 to 54MB in size at 80kps to 260kps in the last HOUR! Server's seem to be handling the load just fine for most people.
Brett
AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 5:53 PM
DAZ has learned well.
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DAZ3D posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 6:07 PM
Quote - WARNING!!
If you want your BRYCE 6.0 RIGHT AWAY, do NOT order the Content DVD in the same order. My purchase is "being processed" because some of the items (ala the DVD) are not available yet. Hence my credit card has not been billed and I'm stuck in limbo even through I checked the "send out of stock items separately".
Hopefully this will be fixed shortly.
Brett
Hello everyone
There was a temporary issue where placing the Bryce 6 Content DVD in an order with other, downloadable, products caused the downloadable products to not have the download links become active right away. This issue has now been fixed, so feel free to include the Bryce 6 Content DVD in your order of downloadable products. Happy rendering!
AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 6:14 PM
VERY cool. You guys are freaking on it today.
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Starship_Yard posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 6:36 PM
The DAZ guys are doing an INCREDIBLE job of keeping things running and getting any minor problems fixed! And the download speeds are INCREDIBLE too!
By the way, Steve K. has confirmed that Bryce 6 may (LIKELY) has issues with XP 64 bit, and that the installer they are using DEFINITELY doesn't like XP 64 bit.
Brett
Starship_Yard posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 6:42 PM
One other new item:
Darissa says she hasn't quite finished the Bryce 6 documentation and that the most up to date Documention will be online at:
http://documentation.daz3d.com/bryce/Bryce6ArtistGuide.htm
(hope I copied that correctly, this running between two systems has a few downsides).
You NEED to let a script run to build the menu. See:
http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=45942
Brett
AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 6:44 PM
On top of it, and honest. Dang.
I'd bet they'll get it to work, imho. 64-bit cpu's are one big part of the future use of computing power.
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pakled posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 6:45 PM
tee hee hee..we got Bryce 6 before they got Poser 7...;) sorry, couldn't resist..;)
Well, hmmm.
Platinum Membership required - $29.95
Bonus pack- $29.95
Bryce 6- $6
so thats...carry the 9...$65.90..@#$ I hate being broke...
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drawbridgep posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 6:50 PM
$6!
/me blinks and checks again
Yup, still $6. OK, DAZ are back in my good books again.
drawbridgep posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 6:51 PM
Just a shame I couldn't use my daz vouchers against it, then it would have been free.
Sorry, just trying to find the cloud behind the silver lining.
AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 7:08 PM
Puts to shame the $90 I spent years ago to get Bryce 4.0
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ariannah posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 7:46 PM
Or the $360 I paid for Bryce 5 from Corel.
Pfffftttt!!!
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tastiger posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 7:50 PM
Quote - Or the $360 I paid for Bryce 5 from Corel.
Pfffftttt!!!
Or what I paid for Bryce 3! - seem to recall that was about $AUD 400
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AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 8:00 PM
WOW....that's some bucks!
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drawbridgep posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 8:07 PM
Rendering HDRI and.... I'm very close to being impressed.
Pedrith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 8:08 PM
Heck that's nothing. I paid almost 600 Canadian for bryce 5. And Pakled I'm kinda broke right now too as all my money is going towards replacing my dying computer (and even then I still will need a lone. Luckily my parents will lend me the difference and I will pay them back over the nexts 6 months, unless I win the lottery, in which case I will give you the $6 to get Bryce 6. Here's to winning the lottery :) David
Incarnadine posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 8:09 PM
I remember it being in the $300 and change area myself. Still when you compare it to my cost for upgrading C4D's core/Advanced Render modules and adding the hair module, even that is cheap! Thirty-six bucks. I will probably do it myself.
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tastiger posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 8:15 PM
Well - I'm all downloaded and installed - although the number of downloads increased from the original 4 per item to 16 - hope that wasn't because of faulty files........
Hate to have to d/l again - with the P6 CE pack for my son this morning and Bryce 5 + some PC stuff - I have given my bandwidth a nice hit today....
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Cyba_Storm posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 8:36 PM
My first copy of Bryce was a cover mount on 3D World magazine. BRYCE 3D
Next BRYCE 4 also 3D World mounted.
BRYCE 5 was a couple of dollars. I got it at an insurance recovery auction.
So at this point in time Bryce has cost me the price of a Pizza. In return it has given me a billion dollars worth of fun.
AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 8:45 PM
DAZ probably split up the files further to make them smaller, and easier for downloading? (just a guess in the dark)
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tastiger posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 9:01 PM
Oh dear - still stuck with it on monitor 1 - thought they would have introduced dual monitor support or at least the ability to move the interface between monitors..........
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skiwillgee posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 9:01 PM
Omigosh, I go to work and come home to find out Santa Claus has come early. I can't wait to download. Heck with it being first edition buggie. I can live with $6 bugs.
I'm not looking a gift horse in the mouth. What is Daz up too? They want all of Drac's babies or something as the catch? Wow again.
AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 9:20 PM
From what I have heard, you could always use Bryce with dual monitors.
Take the cursor up to one of the Create, Edit areas, press and hold space bar, your cursor will turn into a little hand and you can drag those "toolbars" over to your other monitor.
Now...that's what I've been told over the years by dual monitor people. Never been able to try it myself. :o(
But I can see the hand cursor, and move the toolbars around.
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tastiger posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 9:39 PM
Yeah - you can move the toolbars - but the main working area is stuck on monitor 1 you can't actually drag the interface from one screen to the other or strech it across - in fact you can't size it - you can only minimize or maximize.....
No biggy - but would be nice....
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Starship_Yard posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 9:49 PM
SKondris's remarks in several new threads should give everyone a lot of confidence that Bryce is back on track. Poor guy is just bubbling over in his rush to let it all out. He's even already complaining no one has commented on the new packaging for Bryce 6, along with a new DAZ Logo. Has it only been 8 or 9 hours since they opened the floodgates??
Little things like the fact they can now start developing a Bryce 6 SDK, something impossible for previous versions of Bryce.
http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=45973
And people think grandparents are bad when there's a new addition to the family!
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deadman67 posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 9:55 PM
if anybody has bryce6 could ya please post some screen shots of the interface ,sky lab and what ever els you can thinks of i plan to get b6 but i just started a new job so it will be awhile befor i can buy it thanks.
AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 10:01 PM
Would be very nice. Definte suggestion item for B7.
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drawbridgep posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 10:03 PM
OK, here's my first attempt in Bryce 6.0
Not too slow, but I managed to watch Criminal Minds and CSI:NY while it was rendering.
tom271 posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 10:13 PM Online Now!
I got Bryce 6 and paid $99.00 for it...
I loaded my bryce 5.5 WIP I'm working on and it goes real well... I need to work on my Wip in B6 to tell how it goes then...
I will try that HDRI to see it work....
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AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 10:57 PM
Be sure to use that link in the header to lay your hands on some free HDRI if you don' t already have some!
Love the render phil, commented on it. Strangely enough I gotta also say, that's a really nice asphalt, lol. Works quite well in the render.
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jelisa posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 11:03 PM
deadman67,
Take a look at the online documentation. Has lots of screencaptures of the interface, labs, etc.
http://documentation.daz3d.com/bryce/Bryce6ArtistGuide.htm
Just as a side note folks, the Bryce 5 manual had about 250 graphics. The current manual, unfinished, has 2915 images. I may have gone a bit overboard ....
-darlisa
AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 11:08 PM
You cannot go overboard. Users need a flashlight aimed at every nook of Bryce!
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jelisa posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 11:28 PM
So, if I double what's already there we should be covered?
AgentSmith posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 11:30 PM
Oh, god...at that point just have DAZ buy out RWB4 and include that info, lol.
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jelisa posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 11:42 PM
Nah ... we'll just put it in my book.
ariannah posted Wed, 18 October 2006 at 11:46 PM
Quote - Nah ... we'll just put it in my book.
Somehow, I just knew Dar would be writing a book. ;-]
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AgentSmith posted Thu, 19 October 2006 at 12:08 AM
Where the REAL secrets of Bryce now reside....
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Conniekat8 posted Thu, 19 October 2006 at 12:10 AM
Quote -
From what I have heard, you could always use Bryce with dual monitors.
Yep! Just set your video card to see the two monitors as one big double wide tr... desktop
Well, after couple years of resisting I finally got talked into PC. Not too bad, I was able to purchase PC, bryce, pay plug in coupons and download right away.
I think after this pricing, DAZ will have a whole new wave of bryce content to sell us... At least that's what I would do if I were them, or what seems to be their business model. Just a guess on my part.
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AgentSmith posted Thu, 19 October 2006 at 12:17 AM
plug Well, there is the B6 Content DVD plug
plug That just happens to have some of my own content on itplug
plugplugplugplug
cough...plug...cough...
Okay, I think I finally got that out of my system...
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foleypro posted Thu, 19 October 2006 at 12:20 AM
Ya..
They even took out the names in the Program Contenet that I did,Was bummed about that but hey I know and they know and the other testers know who did them...
But they did give me credit on the 'Content DVD"...Wohoooooo....
AgentSmith posted Thu, 19 October 2006 at 12:37 AM
SUE! (or at least take them on a short guilt trip, lol) J/K.....J/K
Hey, don't worry buddy, I know your stuff!!! ;oD
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foleypro posted Thu, 19 October 2006 at 12:44 AM
Ya...
I just glad its out and the stress is so way Lowered now...
Now we get to see how it runs on several thousand different Machines other then the testers...
Badly needed capital for Bryce developement to go much further then even I think DAZ has Planned.
I dont care just as long as Bryce keeps moving forward and I get to make content for it I will know that I have contributed to thy Bryce community and I love doing that....
AgentSmith posted Thu, 19 October 2006 at 12:50 AM
Ditto on all points, man.
I was determined to get some of my stuff as extra content. It's just...I don't know, sorta of an honor. Makes me all warm/fuzzy.
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foleypro posted Thu, 19 October 2006 at 1:11 AM
Ya me too...
Erlik posted Thu, 19 October 2006 at 1:30 AM
Quote - That being said, its not that bad. You will find that different HDRI's will render a scene faster than others (I'm assuming this has to do with the complexity of the actual HDRI image, and how many exposure layers were used to create said HDRI image.
Yeah, there are apparently two factors in that. One is the sheer resolution of the HDR image, while the other is the amount of detail in it. But simplified, the bigger HDR file is, longer it will render. And yes, upping the quality to the max will lead to mammoth renders. Not that we don't know how that looks like. :)
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Dann-O posted Thu, 19 October 2006 at 1:35 AM
Still waiting on the facts. Hopefully ther eis a special discount for brokered artists. (Hey I got hexagon for free that way)
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jelisa posted Thu, 19 October 2006 at 1:39 AM
Nope, just a flat $6 for PAs since you are a PC member. No extra discounts.
tom271 posted Thu, 19 October 2006 at 1:49 AM Online Now!
Here is a fish I finally rendered in HDRI....
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Mahray posted Thu, 19 October 2006 at 2:13 AM
Steve posted the following at Daz:
The boxed version is scheduled for January 2007, because we plan on releasing Bryce 6.1 by the end of the year. 6.1 will be an important FREE update in its own right since it will have a collection of bug fixes that we're certain to hear about in the coming days that we'll want to address for you. On top of that, we'll have a MAC Intel compatible build out for the MAC in that release. In addition, there's a set of further fixes and feature polish that we're already working on. The HDRI lab, for instance, will have quite a few more controls added to it so that it is even more powerful and versatile in what can be accomplished with it. The dual-processor and hyperthreading support will be extended to work more thoroughly within Bryce 6 and the various previews windows, and we hope to squeeze out even a bit more speed from it. And who knows, we might even have a surprise feature up our sleeves that we'll release around that same time...
That should answer a few questions about dual threading etc :)
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foleypro posted Thu, 19 October 2006 at 3:15 AM
Naw...
There are a few Bugs fom the new codes that are 'Random on some System configurations" that need to be nailed down that couldnt be nailed in testing...
Why...?
What are YOUR system specs...?
Virus,Firewall,Msg,Spyrus lie adaware..?
Memory..?
Hard disk space...?
Its all important...
Think foks on what steps you took to get to the debug page....
AgentSmith posted Thu, 19 October 2006 at 4:07 AM
The HDRI lab, for instance, will have quite a few more controls added to it so that it is even more powerful and versatile in what can be accomplished with it
COOL!
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Rochr posted Thu, 19 October 2006 at 5:42 PM
Congratulations to the release. Great to see that it really did got to see the light of day at last.
Think i might just give this one a go and freshen up some of the old skills. I´ll probably have to re-learn the darn thing now... :biggrin:
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AgentSmith posted Thu, 19 October 2006 at 5:53 PM
Just when I thought I had it all down, I get hit over the head with something new, but obvious, lol. at least its a change from getting hit with old and obvious.
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Rochr posted Sat, 21 October 2006 at 5:36 PM
So what´s the UI like on this release? Any drastic changes or the same comfortable one?
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deadman67 posted Sat, 21 October 2006 at 7:31 PM
will bryce6 mat's & sky's be compatible in bryce 5.5
tom271 posted Sat, 21 October 2006 at 7:48 PM Online Now!
The other mats in Bryce 5 & 5.5 work well in B6 so....
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Mahray posted Sat, 21 October 2006 at 11:53 PM
Rochr - the UI is basically the same, but hammered green instead of smooth blue.
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AgentSmith posted Sun, 22 October 2006 at 1:57 AM
I've been hammered green before (last st. patricks day)!
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