ghoyle1 opened this issue on Nov 04, 2006 · 36 posts
ghoyle1 posted Sat, 04 November 2006 at 6:11 AM
Guy
ghoyle1 posted Sat, 04 November 2006 at 6:11 AM
ghoyle1 posted Sat, 04 November 2006 at 6:12 AM
ghoyle1 posted Sat, 04 November 2006 at 6:12 AM
Dann-O posted Sat, 04 November 2006 at 8:41 AM
Maybe do a new function for a trek ship. Like try a modular design with different shaped modules for different missions or a carrier. Good start.
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ghoyle1 posted Mon, 06 November 2006 at 4:56 AM
My goal with this design was to come up with a design that fit somewhere between the NX-01 and the NCC-1701, without being yet another kitbash of either one. I haven't seen any fan-designed ship that has the twin nacelles vertically aligned, nor with the two pylons per nacelle arrangement.
I also wanted to follow, or at least not seriously break, Gene Roddenberry's rules on starship design. I moved the bridge unit forward; it's the only part of the ship that really defies Roddenberry's rules. (Well, the nacelles are slightly obstructed from the front view, but not completely.) I rationalize that the bridge sits in the center of the oil drum, if not the saucer itself. Since this is a sort of experimental design from the early days of starship design, I figure the rules might not have been too well established.
ghoyle1 posted Mon, 06 November 2006 at 4:57 AM
ghoyle1 posted Mon, 06 November 2006 at 4:57 AM
ghoyle1 posted Mon, 06 November 2006 at 4:58 AM
ghoyle1 posted Mon, 06 November 2006 at 5:04 AM
ghoyle1 posted Mon, 06 November 2006 at 5:18 AM
Roddenberry's starship design rules, incidentally, are at http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/design.htm
TDO posted Tue, 07 November 2006 at 11:08 AM
It is starting to come togather :)
I like the nacell setup.
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Cyba_Storm posted Wed, 08 November 2006 at 5:17 AM
Canon is for those lacking imagination. The star fleet engineers would still be building NX 01's if they were made up of people insisting on things being canon.
I love seeing something different. Keep up the good work.
ghoyle1 posted Wed, 08 November 2006 at 10:02 PM
Oh, I'm not even trying for anything canonical; I really just want something interesting-looking. Thanks for the compliment!
Guy
danamo posted Thu, 09 November 2006 at 11:56 PM
Looking really good! I like how you're refining the mesh and details. I agree with Cyba. In this case "Canon" could be a crutch for a person with lesser imagination. It definitely is "interesting looking".:)
ghoyle1 posted Fri, 10 November 2006 at 6:02 AM
I haven't had much time this week to work on it, but I should add some more refinements tonight, especially to the nacelles.
pearce posted Fri, 10 November 2006 at 6:23 AM
If those drive supporting members were slanted back they'd be better able to withstand and transmit acceleration forces when the drive is on.
Gog posted Fri, 10 November 2006 at 8:25 AM
A good point pearce, I think a V might look cool (one slanting forward one backward,)
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ghoyle1 posted Fri, 10 November 2006 at 12:58 PM
I considered that, but a couple of things made me go with the current shape: 1) I'm still pretty new at this, and the straight pylons were easier than the slanted pylons. 2) I'm sort of using the Christopher Pike-era as a starting point and working backwards from there; my current thought is that this ship predates the NCC-1701 by a couple of decades, so the straight pylons make more sense. (Yeah, I know, the NX-01 and numerous fan-designed pre-TOS ships shoot a hole in that argument, but I'm following my muse here.)
When I have time to sit down and work on the pylons seriously, I'll try it out and see what I can do with the slanted pylons. Thanks for the suggestion!
Guy
pearce posted Fri, 10 November 2006 at 6:36 PM
Actually it always seemed to me that having the drives offset from the centreline of the ship would cause it to pitch downward under acceleration, and go in circles LOL. But you can't get too bogged down in technical reality or you lose the fantasy element, so follow your muse by all means :)
They have all sorts of impossible stuff anyway.
ghoyle1 posted Fri, 10 November 2006 at 10:42 PM
ghoyle1 posted Fri, 10 November 2006 at 10:43 PM
ghoyle1 posted Fri, 10 November 2006 at 10:43 PM
Dann-O posted Fri, 10 November 2006 at 11:26 PM
Nice looking nacelles. starting to shape up there.
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ghoyle1 posted Sun, 12 November 2006 at 10:23 AM
I added a horizontal central cylinder to house the navigational deflectors (fore) and the hangar (aft). 12 lights serve to guide approaching ships to the rectangular hangar door.
There are 3 single-mount phasers on the top of the "drum", and 3 more on the bottom. There are 2 more rear-mounted phasers above and below the hangar entrance, but that's just because I couldn't figure out a better placement at this time. Comments are welcome.
I don't have any photon torpedo launcers set up at this time, and I'm not sure where I want to place them. To port and starboard of the navigational deflector, maybe?
I wanted the impulse engines to look relatively antiquated (compared to the 1701), so I made them big and boxy, and gave them circular exhaust vents (as opposed to the standard square ones).
I played around with the nacelles a bit more, adding an illuminated cylinder for the blue "warp glow" effect. I know this wasn't a TOS feature, but heck, if the NX-01 has it, why not this ship, too?
Comments, as always, are appreciated.
Guy
ghoyle1 posted Sun, 12 November 2006 at 10:23 AM
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ghoyle1 posted Sun, 12 November 2006 at 11:52 AM
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ghoyle1 posted Sun, 12 November 2006 at 12:40 PM
Dann-O posted Sun, 12 November 2006 at 5:43 PM
Startign to look really good. A bit more with teh textures and it will be set. Maybe ready for a fan film.
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Gog posted Mon, 13 November 2006 at 4:42 AM
Looking good. One thing that looks a liitle odd is the arc of the antenna dish, there's a huge difference between yours and the connie, makes it look alittle odd when side by side
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pauljs75 posted Sat, 09 December 2006 at 7:05 AM
Looks very ST-universe inspired regardless of what some people claim for conventions. Who says it can't be an "alien" adaptation of warp drive technology, then it doesn't have to abide by the Federation "conventions" of spaceship design. If I didn't know any better, I'd swear there was a Ferengi vessel in one STNG episode that almost looked like what you put together.
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ghoyle1 posted Sat, 09 December 2006 at 5:01 PM
Quote - Looking good. One thing that looks a liitle odd is the arc of the antenna dish, there's a huge difference between yours and the connie, makes it look alittle odd when side by side
Thanks! Of course, this is intended to be an older ship than the connie, so various details would be different.
Guy