Malstorm opened this issue on Nov 06, 2006 · 8 posts
Malstorm posted Mon, 06 November 2006 at 10:13 AM
is it poss to import camera's into vue 6 infinite ? so i dont have to reset them up in vue 6 when importing a whole poser scene ?
need the manual badly lol
wabe posted Mon, 06 November 2006 at 10:23 AM
Nope, not possible. Even when i think it should be possible by any reason. But maybe we both are missing something here. Let's ask a Python specialist about it.
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diolma posted Mon, 06 November 2006 at 2:12 PM
I too would like to know do this, but haven't found a way.
One thing I sometimes do if the POV is important is:
In Poser, centre the camera you are going to use for the viewpoint. Make sure that all dolly and/or rotations are set to zero (this is just to make the next stages easier...)
Load a box. Using the left/front/top views, position the box such that it co-incides with the camera you are going to use (you'll have to make the cam visible, possibly more than once when switching between top/left/right...). Once co-incided, Parent the box to the cam you are going to use.
Save (for safety).
Set up your scene and move the camera around. The box will move with the camera.
Just before you save to use the scene in Vue, unparent the box (ie, parent to Universe). This is 'cos Vue not only ignores the cams, but also anything parented to them. Then save.
Open Vue, import scene. The box should also be included in the imported scene, so you can use it as a start point for the Vue cam position and orientation. Alas, there's no way I know of to also include the focal length, so that has to be by trial and error..
Then, of course, either delete the box or make it totally transparent (otherwise you'll be thinking "why is it so dark?")
Hope that helps. as tiresome as it is, it's easier than trying to second-guess the whole setup...
Cheers,
Diolma
Veritas777 posted Mon, 06 November 2006 at 4:06 PM
...one thing I WAS hoping for (and it's still POSSIBLE) is a "locked" or "Pin-Registered" scene transfer between Poser and Vue- using an "intermediary format" that could be either a special Poser file or Vue file format-...
Since Poser 7 hasn't been released yet- there is STILL a possibility for this feature between Poser 7 and Vue 6...
Since E-on now supports the Epix file format, plus other After Effects and other Compositing formats- there is technically no reason that I can see why Vue 6 couldn't support FULL SCENE transfers- with cameras, lights, etc all LOCKED-- seeing the same scene in either P7 or V6, and using the best features of each program...
I'm also HOPING that E-on will FINALLY add Python to their ENTIRE V6 line, not just V6i... this would finally make a good commercial Python Programming marketplace and make Python in Vue really take off..
impish posted Tue, 07 November 2006 at 4:31 AM
Well I wrote a script for transfering camera animation between Vue scenes using a CSV file. I don't have any experience with Posers python but I'll take a look and see if I can get it to produce a CSV file of the camera animation to import. Can't say when or if I'll get this to work though.
wabe posted Tue, 07 November 2006 at 4:40 AM
Mark,
isn't it simply possible to read the parameters out from the pz3 file - and convert them into Vue?
When io open a pz3 i find things like:
camera MAIN_CAMERA
{
name MAIN_CAMERA
on
bend 1
dynamicsLock 1
hidden 0
addToMenu 1
castsShadow 1
includeInDepthCue 0
useZBuffer 1
parent UNIVERSE
creaseAngle 80
channels
{
groups
{
groupNode Other
{
parmNode focal
parmNode Perspective
parmNode focusDistance
parmNode fStop
parmNode shutterOpen
parmNode shutterClose
parmNode hither
parmNode yon
}
groupNode Transform
{
parmNode dollyZ
parmNode dollyY
parmNode dollyX
parmNode zScale
parmNode yScale
parmNode xScale
parmNode scale
parmNode roll
parmNode pitch
parmNode yaw
}
}
focal focal
{
name focal
initValue 38
hidden 0
forceLimits 1
min 0
max 100000
trackingScale 0.1
keys
{
static 0
k 0 38
sl 1
spl
sm
}
interpStyleLocked 0
}
focusDistance focusDistance
{
name focus_Distance
initValue 2
hidden 0
forceLimits 0
min -100000
max 100000
trackingScale 0.01
keys
{
static 0
k 0 2
sl 1
spl
sm
....
You don't think with a little analysis it is possible to make something Vue-specific out of it? Without knowing at the moment wether i found exactly the right part of the pz3. But the information MUST be in there, otherwise you wouldn't be able to save and reopen a pz3 in Poser with changed camera parameters.
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Malstorm posted Tue, 07 November 2006 at 5:32 AM
great replies guyz...i didnt think anyone would answer me lol....reason i set up this thread was...you have so much control over the poser camera and would make life so easy just importing the whole thing over to vue
Veritas777 posted Tue, 07 November 2006 at 2:51 PM
...EXACTLY!...One thing I was talking about in this forum about 10-12 months ago was EXACTLY this topic..in HOPES that E-on might pick up on it and make it part of the Vue 6 release!
I have also tried to "gen up" some support for this concept in the RDNA Poser 6 forum, where a lot of the GURU's and P6 Wizards hang out.. because I KNOW that this is quite possible!..
One idea I've floated is that maybe e-frontier and e-on will come out with a "Professional Bundle" that includes one price to buy BOTH programs with EXACTLY this feature... it would be a really GREAT marketing concept for both companies, I think- and it fits EXACTLY into the Professional Workflow of how other higher-end COMPOSITING software works- like from AutoDesk, etc.
Also- since E-on has been HIGHLY INVOLVED in doing EXACTLY this with 3DSMAX, Lightwave, etc-- they certainly HAVE the knowledge base to make this work...! ...SO- MAYBE it might still happen...!!!