http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=48547&highlight=

Looks like she's really here very soon!

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ah. could you explain more? you see thats a restricted forum that has restricted access.

Clicked on the link and got....

Sorry, but only users granted special access can read topics in this forum.

Guess I'm not special.

It's just some blurb about V4....

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The page is for PC members, so here's a summary of the info posted:

better joints, and fewer JCMs needed
'more than double' the texture map resolution (presumably that refers to the maps to be supplied with V4)
if I'm interpreting correctly, no more morph injections
something called 'Morphform' dials for controlling multiple dials with one slider

That's about it so far.

Steve

Well I just spent on V6I and Poser7 so V4 won't be hitting my runtimes anytime soon!! [lol]

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The most important question..!

Does she have... BIG ti... err... breasts...?

Can't believe I just asked that... :blushing:

mmm... a friend asked me to ask... wasn't me that wanted to know....

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is not excited
is waiting for M4 and A4 and H4
:P

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*The level of realism in her redesigned joints is simply unmatched. Working in tandem with a unique application of magnet deformers not only delivers the most realistic and most versatile figure ever, but it also simplifies the effort required by third-party developers due to the drastically reduced number of Joint Controlled Morphs (JCM's) needed in Victoria 4.0.

*Magnet deformers? Is that going to be compatible with Poser and D|S?

Can't say about the boobs. There's a render, but it's a closeup of her face. And it's done in Carrara, not Poser or D|S.

The blurb also says V4's texture maps will be "over double the resolution" of V3's. That noise you just heard was my computer begging for mercy... ;-)

Hmm good question about the magnets. Perhaps they'll release a DS and a Poser version of her? Most likely. A lot of Daz' models already comes in both a Poser and a DS version, so why not V4?

She's definately compatible with Poser.

as long as they fix those #$%^ 'groucho' eyebrows...sigh...;)

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how soon is soon?

I'll stick my neck out and predict that either it will be the same day as Poser 7 is released or within 2 days of that date........

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Wow... The face is absolutely beautiful, hope they get really nice shoulders and elbows. Boes. Eh. Seems like with V2 they had a sort of "cute" face, V3 has this almost goddess-like, graceful beauty, but this one really nails it for me. Very life-like. I can't quite put a word to it, because it isn't really just cute or glamorous/beautiful. Uh...

o.k., at least they finally realised that they gotta include alotta JCMs to avoid forcing users to do their own. which unfortunately indicates that they believe P7 users are stuck with the old spherical JPs. psycho, I haven't seen yer nickname until now - did ya change it to that recently?

Some are saying that they would like to see M4 in the near future. Personally I would prefer to see D4, his predecessor is much better than M3.

... one more comment. I think this is timely, I reckon that V3 is way, way past her "use by" date.

And for sure, your PC is out of date with her ;)

Back to the good old days, her cr2 will include all morphs like V2 or A3 did. Even for background figures you have to use a haeave weight V4.

Also, as you don't have to buy additional morphs, I'm pretty sure, she will not be free :(

But one thing will be true for sure, she will be a Barbie NG (no gens).

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OK folks, lets not be too quick with our conclusions. The line from Steve's post over in the DAZ PC Members forum is:

"Incredible Ease of Use - All head and body morphs will be made available within a single CR2."

Please note that he does not say "...are included in the CR2.", but "...will be made available..."

To me that means that the head and body morphs will be a separate package that we'll have to buy as is traditional with the current Mill figures...

I just so want V4!!
I love working with V3 but I just need that extra level of realism which I hope V4 will bring. With Poser 7 which I have just preordered it should be fun to see what can be created.
I know the promo was rendered in Carrara but you can see the possibilities, she looked incredible!

Why render in Carrara? Why not Poser7? I use Carrara often, just wonder why - something to do with the lighting?

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"Why render in Carrara? Why not Poser7?"

1.Maybe because they are Daz and don't have Poser7?

Maybe Daz wants to promote Carrara render because it is better than DS?
3 Maybe Carrara is the only Daz app that can handle and render V4?
4 Maybe all of above?

I would go with 1 and 2.

Carrara can't use magnets currently, so it's either annoying OBJ export or they improved Carrara, too...

It would be great to see the image of her face but alas, I'm not a PC member, haven't been for sometime. I'd like to see more of her, what price she will be and other info before I go and get her.
I know, I know I said the same about P7 but went ahead and pre-ordered before anyone has had a chance to really work with it anyway. I may end up doing the same with V4...LOL!

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V4 is to be included as part of the content of Poser7?

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Now I never know if you're kidding!!! ;-0

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Dizzi wrote: *"Carrara can't use magnets currently, so it's either annoying OBJ export or they improved Carrara, too..."

*Yes Carrara can import and use morphs. If someting is a magnet all you need to do is spawn it before you save the figure.

One of the reasons, I think, why Vue has done the same thing and one step better, shader import.

I for one am looking forward to V4. I enjoy working with V3 more than Miki, Jessie and Aiko combined. I hope she can use V3 textures.

I'm glad they did the render in Carrara, it is my renderer of choice as P6 can't handle any kind of complex scene. I pre ordered p7, so we'll see if it has more headroom for complex scenes.

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I am excited about V4 also but I too look forward to an M4 soon :)

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I'm kidding, but wouldn't it be a good thing if that happened?

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It would!!, shouldn't reason 7 be out by now???

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I reckon reason 7 will be announced this Thursday & it will go on sale next Thursday 7th of December, back to the V4 speculation though & I wonder if she will work in Poser4 with it's more limited tools.

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Quote - ...it will go on sale next Thursday 7th of December...

A day that will live in infamy....
(doesn't bode well for the launch of a new product...) :unsure:

<-insert words of wisdom here->

Quote - > Quote - ...it will go on sale next Thursday 7th of December...

A day that will live in infamy....

... launched on the US by a Japanese company.... Sigh.

The thing is, even by the longest stretch of imagination, december isn't "fall" - it's winter. So they may release the final reason earlier (like today for instance) and then Poser 7 this thursday.

Starlet has said a few times that the Poser 6 reasons weren't all posted one week apart (I can't remember it so I have to rely on her) - so it's not a GIVEN that there's a reason every thursday - and we were robbed of one last thursday because of Turkeyday...

GAH! I want it NOW!

When Einstein was asked what weapons would be used in WW3 he answered: "I don't know about WW3, but in WW4 they will be using sticks and stones".
To emulate the old man, I am tempted to predict that --with the current state of neo-puritanical revival-- if not V4, then certainly V5 will come out with no visible attributes of sex (sorry Ziggie, no boobies) and probably also fully clothed.
Seriously now: V3 served her term well, however she has gradually fallen far behind the current requirements for realism. Thus a new female figure is desperately needed. But this new figure, to be of any use, must conform to basic anatomical realities. And it is not just the joints... Let's hope that the modelers at work have been given a crash course in human anatomy and allowed a certain freedom of expression --but, being a pessimist [and with good reason] I have my doubts this have been the case.
(Now, if DAZ happened to be, say, a French company –based in Europe-- my expectations might have been endorsed... :) --No offense intended.......

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Quote - I for one am looking forward to V4. I enjoy working with V3 more than Miki, Jessie and Aiko combined. I hope she can use V3 textures.

that's kind of amusing, because it sounds like they're implementing lots of eF innovations. magnets to do the whole jcm thing ala g2, and dials to raise arms ala miki.

everyone's going gaga over that face, but it doesn't look more realistic to me. just more like aiko realistic. so cuter. since i already have aiko, and tons of stuff for her, i'm more interested in joints, morphs and expressions. i really haven't explored 1/2 the possibilities of v3. or aiko for that matter. and i've got ooodles of products or them. so, she looks cool and all, but i can only get so excited about another daz styled face.

oh, and if she's only got nice joints and such in her d|s optimized version, then that will really decrease her usefulness to me. i often find poser's more robust functionality necessary for what i want to do, and d|s is about as stable on my (fairly new) computer as p5 seemed to be on others.

They'll have to release Poser 7 pretty soon, as with the Christmas post and people going away for Christmas we'll be stuffed if the preorders comes while we are away. Plus I remember all the problems that people in the US had with delivery drivers putting notes through the door saying no-one was in, without even ringing the doorbell to see if anyone was.
In Britain our copies (Poser 5 or 6, can't remember which) were delayed for weeks coming from Ireland, don't know why. At the time there was a thread on this board suggesting that leprechauns were trying to get across the sea in a rowboat piled up with Poser boxes. All I can say is that this time I hope they use Santas elves instead!!!
As for V4, M4 etc, I think that they will wait until the fuss from P7 dies down a bit, so they can say "hey look at these great new figures" to anyone who may be dissappointed by the standard P7 ones.

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Quote - > Quote - > Quote - ...it will go on sale next Thursday 7th of December...

A day that will live in infamy....

... launched on the US by a Japanese company.... Sigh.

Can I plead ignorance? I forgot all about the date & what happened that day, even worse is the fact my final history course work when at school was all about the events on that day in 1941.

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Yes! that would be great, but did you hear the other great news, Windy's is going to sell Big Mac's.

Quote - They'll have to release Poser 7 pretty soon, as with the Christmas post and people going away for Christmas we'll be stuffed if the preorders comes while we are away. Plus I remember all the problems that people in the US had with delivery drivers putting notes through the door saying no-one was in, without even ringing the doorbell to see if anyone was.
In Britain our copies (Poser 5 or 6, can't remember which) were delayed for weeks coming from Ireland, don't know why. At the time there was a thread on this board suggesting that leprechauns were trying to get across the sea in a rowboat piled up with Poser boxes. All I can say is that this time I hope they use Santas elves instead!!!
As for V4, M4 etc, I think that they will wait until the fuss from P7 dies down a bit, so they can say "hey look at these great new figures" to anyone who may be dissappointed by the standard P7 ones.

Yeah that's it blame us Irish we've always been a source of trouble to somebody..LOL!!!!!!! Leprechauns are very busy people and can't be troubled by the wants of mortal men...HAHAHAHA!
Seriously Darren I hope you get your copy of P7 very quickly.

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Simple cause Carrara has a killer render and shader engine. I use it all the time with poser figures. :-)

Quote - Why render in Carrara? Why not Poser7? I use Carrara often, just wonder why - something to do with the lighting?

Quote - Yes! that would be great, but did you hear the other great news, Windy's is going to sell Big Mac's.

They'll be selling a Royale with CHEESE next ;)

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Quote - Wow... The face is absolutely beautiful, hope they get really nice shoulders and elbows. Boes. Eh. Seems like with V2 they had a sort of "cute" face, V3 has this almost goddess-like, graceful beauty, but this one really nails it for me. Very life-like. I can't quite put a word to it, because it isn't really just cute or glamorous/beautiful. Uh...

Could you please tell me where you are finding a picture/image of Victoria 4?

Quote - Could you please tell me where you are finding a picture/image of Victoria 4?

The newest one is here -> http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=48547
Note this is in the "Members Only" forum, so you'll only be able to look at if you're a PC member.

The earlier ones are in the one of the ArtZone chat logs.

11/29/06

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Only Platinum Club members can access this link

http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=48547

Oh well, I guess the picture is not for all to see.

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Probably edited for spelling, grammer, punctuation, or typos.

"V4 is JUST around the corner now!" Must be a verrry long street. ;)

Well... As I've said elsewhere;

Sounds good in the announcement...

...But...

Will the figure be 'anatomically correct' (down below), at least for regular and distance shots, or will we once again be seeing a plethora of funny looking morphs trying to stretch too few vertexes into varying levels of inaccurate detail

That's really all the current female gen-3 figures are lacking.

It's not that I want the ability to do 'R-otica' zoom-ins, but I would like a female figure in the millennium line that when standing normally undressed doesn't look like a cartoon. I'd like one that looks at least as decently correct as the males.

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is waiting for M4 and A4 and H4
:P

I'm with you, vilian. :P I'll get excited when we're talking M4, Aiko 4 and Hiro 4. bB

I was going to ask which part of her would come around the corner first..;)

Don't feel bad about the date; a decade or 2 back, a Presidential candidate said Sept 30th was the day of infamy ..his opponent remarked on it, and lamented he only had 18 days of shopping left..;)

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Though I can't be sure, MorphForm sounds like what I've done in my figures since Evo-Girl. Posing ERC Dials. It's basically like "Look Dials" but the next logical step - bending or turning multiple connected areas of a limb, like Twist the entire arm which would twist hand, forearm, shoulder and perhaps collar.

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It also sounds like she has embedded linked deformers (magnets) that are ERC-wired. I think that's also been done before in the community though I can't recall.

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Joint controlled muscle morphs? Old News but a welcome addition that doesn't have to be hacked into the figures.

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Ho hum.

I agree with the eyebrow comment. I hope the lashes, brows & pubes are not transmapped. I never like that whole transmapping thing.

Maybe that's just me though...

Quote - Simple cause Carrara has a killer render and shader engine. I use it all the time with poser figures. :-)

Quote - Why render in Carrara? Why not Poser7? I use Carrara often, just wonder why - something to do with the lighting?

There's some point in using Carrera, or Bryce, or any other rendering program that give the results you want. But if you're making a figure for Poser, why not render in Poser? Or DAZ Studio: I know Daz were looking for somebody to make publicity renders in that software. As it is, we hear talk about really huge texturemaps, and they don't show a Poser render, and I know that Poser has a limit on texturemap size, and I wonder.

Just a cross-connection with the Poser 7 threads. DAZ are using something that sounds like ERC tech, with several different parameters controlled by one dial. The Reason 7 list included a reference to improvements in how this can be set up. Quoting: Flexibly increase or reduce the value of any parameter in your scene with Dependent Parameters. Using Dependent Parameters in your files allows you to modify multiple morph targets, deformers or any other parameter using a single, master parameter dial. Now with Poser 7, you have much greater control in defining the ways that your parameters interact as your figure is adjusted. I can see there being a P7 .cr2 which takes advantage of such a change, and a more limited version for older software. Does this mean a .cr7 file? What this "greater control" might be, I have no idea.

Transmapped brows and lashes allow for better variation. Plus modelled brows and lashes are just added more vertices that have to be smoothed and rendered.

I wouldn't be surprised if they rendered her in Carrrara because maybe they are making her so that she has multiple functionality in different programs. It would certainly be advantagous for DAZ to do so since they are acquiring so much software.

I just think the timing on releasing her is getting down to the wire...especially in the holliday season. Release her when people are hungry to buy, but not when they are burnt out on shopping.

I don't know anything about modeling. However i know V3 and other poser figures are notoriously difficult to import into other programs. I wonder if with V4 and M4 they will somehow try to make that task easier.

I find them very easy to import into Vue, Shade and Carrara. I also find them very easy to import into any of my modeling apps. You only need to know what scaling works best for the modeling app that you want to use.

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