Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Kiri Te-general hair question

peter_octavian opened this issue on Jan 01, 2007 · 9 posts


peter_octavian posted Mon, 01 January 2007 at 10:55 AM

Happy New Year, everyone.

I have been using poser for a while now, and finally have a figure that is requiring me to learn a bit more.  I am using Kiri Te hair (which is one of my favorites for it's versatility), and I can dial out collisions with my figure's shoulder.

I can't seem to track down the solution in the poser 6 manual.

Can someone give me some advice about posing or morphing the hair so that it doesn't collide into a body part?

Any help would be most appreciated.

Thank you!


lucstef posted Mon, 01 January 2007 at 11:14 AM

Just pose the hair the way you want, then use magnets to eliminate collisions, it's really that simple.


Acadia posted Mon, 01 January 2007 at 11:21 AM

I just use the dials if any are available to get  hair in a reasonable position and then fix it in post work in a graphic program. 

After I do my full render I  usually end up doing 2 area renders. 1 render with the body part invisible and I render the hair area.  A second render with the hair invisible and render that body area.  Then in post work I overlay the body part and the hair part and decide which looks best and then clone what I need.  Tedious? Yes! But still easier than trying to work with magnets, which are my bane. I've never been able to get a magnet to work properly, at least in order to be able to move just the part I want instead of the whole thing.  

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



peter_octavian posted Mon, 01 January 2007 at 11:35 AM

I've yet to even try magnets.

Can anyone give me some basic tips?


lucstef posted Mon, 01 January 2007 at 12:02 PM

First of all, set preview of hair to texture shaded. I'm assuming that hair are a unique piece, such as a hair prop or the only visible part of the hair figure. Select them, and go to "object/create magnet", you'll see the three part composing the magnet element. The horseshoe part is the magnet itself, whose relative movement against the base (second part of the magnet, the straight bar) is what creates the modification on the figure. Third part is the zone, represented by a sphere, which is the influence zone of the magnet. Now, shape and move the zone using scale and translate dials until it is approximately around the problematic area, and move/rotate the base such as the magnet curve is in the direction you want tu push/pull the hair. Finally, simply increase the YTrans on the magnet, and you'll see the hair begin to raise from the poke-through. To refine you can play with the zone, increasing its size o rotating it to better fit the poke-through area; you can rotate the base to a better angle to adjust the effect of the magnet, and so on. Notice that the zone influence is bigger toward the centre of the sphere representing it, so don't be afraid to increase its size to encompass even more than the poke through area, just don't overdo it. And if you have Poser7 and don't want to use magnets, the Morph Tool is your friend... :) Problem is...I never used it until now, so I can't help there.


stormchaser posted Mon, 01 January 2007 at 12:21 PM

If there's enough morphs in the hair, as there generally is with Fabi's hair, then you should be able to sort this out by experimenting with the dials. Sometimes going with a negative on a dial which you wouldn't normally use can have the desired effect.



Acadia posted Mon, 01 January 2007 at 12:39 PM

Attached Link: http://drgeep.com/

Dr. Geep has some tutorials on magnets

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



peter_octavian posted Mon, 01 January 2007 at 1:05 PM

^Lucstef, you are a lifesaver!

This is the first set of magnet instructions I've found that I could wrap my brain around, and it worked perfectly.

Now I can stop swearing at my computer.

Thanks!!

(and thanks to everyone else who responded.  I sure appreciate it)

Happy New Year


lucstef posted Mon, 01 January 2007 at 4:01 PM

Glad to be of help, and Happy New Year to you too :)