Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL

Subject: Browning .50 model included with Poser 7

Helgard opened this issue on Jan 01, 2007 · 38 posts

Helgard posted Mon, 01 January 2007 at 10:03 PM

Hi Poserites, Just a quick user guide for those of you who have Poser 7, and want to check out the cool included model made by the amazing Panko and the wonderful me.

First, have a look at what the model can do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX8rANXd3Jc

The whole firing action, which includes the tracers, belt feed, ejecting shells and moving firing lever are all controlled by one dial, and the action is animated by a highly modified version of the tank track programming. It all sounds very complicated, but it is the easiest animation you will ever do. To animate a ten second scene is very complicated. Here is what you have to do:

If your animation is 300 frames, set the Fire dial on zero for the first frame, and 30 for the last frame.

That is it, and you have a ten second animation of a Browning machine gun firing. We tried to make it more complicated, so we included a few other options, which will allow you to mount this Browning on ships, vehicles, walls, etc.
Here is an extract from the readme:

Using the figures:

  1. Load the Browning and the BrowningMount or the BrowningTripod.
  2. Select the Browning50 body part on the Browning, and then on the top menu bar, select "Figure > Set figure parent" and choose "Swivel" (or “T_Swivel” if you have chosen the tripod instead) on the drop down menu. The Browning and the BrowningMount (or BrowningTripod) will now operate as one figure.
  3. On the BrowningMount body tab are controls to adjust the width of the mounting clip, and to traverse the machine gun. Use the controls on this part to move the gun into position, and if you want this as part of a vehicle, parent the mount to the vehicle, and it will now move with the vehicle. Similarly on the BrowningTripod body tab you will find two control dials, to traverse the gun and to elevate the swivel of the tripod.
  4. On the body tab of the Browning are controls to elevate the machine gun, to raise the gunsight, to move the cocking lever, and to fire the machinegun.
  5. The fire control moves from 0 to 60, and will fire 60 rounds, eject the empty shells, move the blowbackpiston, and send out tracer rounds from the front of the machine gun.
  6. Also in the props folder you will find a protective screen to be used when the gun is mounted on a ship. This is parented to the swivel part of the BrowningMount and is following its movement.

Special note on animating the guns:

If your animation is 300 frames, set the Fire dial on zero for the first frame, and 30 for the last frame.
Set its animation timeline to linear, not spline.
Speeding up the animation may give you a more realistic rate of fire, but this will seem to skip frames and may at certain speeds make the animation look like it is going in reverse, but this is an optical illusion, such as when wheels seem to be turning backwards at certain speeds.

If anyone runs into any problems, and needs some help, just give me a shout.
Helgard


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Helgard posted Mon, 01 January 2007 at 10:05 PM

Attached Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX8rANXd3Jc

A direct link to the video


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ranman38 posted Mon, 01 January 2007 at 10:10 PM

Simply awesome and incredible work. Thanks for getting this excellent product included in Poser 7 for free! 


infinity10 posted Tue, 02 January 2007 at 12:30 AM

thanks for this information !  cool !

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JOELGLAINE posted Tue, 02 January 2007 at 7:49 AM

I knew you were awesome from the Aliens props and such you did a few years ago, but DAMN!  You get more awesome every year!

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mrsparky posted Tue, 02 January 2007 at 8:40 AM

Jolly Good Job There chaps.

Theres also stacks more freebies on the P7 discs from the VP folks. 
3 spacecraft and a really cool Skid steer loader by Edw.  

Pinky - you left the lens cap of your mind on again.


panko posted Tue, 02 January 2007 at 8:51 AM

Here is a picture of the add-ons included in the package...

"That's another fine mess you got me in to!" -- Oliver Hardy

panko posted Tue, 02 January 2007 at 8:53 AM

And a word of warning... Please handle this gun with care as it fires real bullets.... :biggrin:

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JHoagland posted Tue, 02 January 2007 at 10:10 AM

Yep, Helgard and Panko did an excellent job with this... and it's completely free with Poser 7. Just go to your Figures library and it's ready to go.


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JOELGLAINE posted Tue, 02 January 2007 at 1:27 PM

Aw, man!  I'm gonna have to go and buy Poser 7, NOW! :lol: ^__^ V,,

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Mazak posted Tue, 02 January 2007 at 3:27 PM

Attached Link: http://www.mazak-grafikwelt.de/animation/Browning_Test.mpg

Thank you Helgard for heads up. I din`t noticed that a Browning is include in P7. :thumbupboth:

Panko’s .50 is a cool replacement for the M3A1 Half Track Browning. So I did a quick Animation test. :biggrin:         I used a different frame setup for the gun as Helgard’s 300/30 example, to get an asynchrony in the animation. (bad English,  sorry)

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Helgard posted Tue, 02 January 2007 at 6:34 PM

Mazak, that is very cool. I have a few other vehicles, like a Willy's Jeep, in production that will all have places to mount the Browning, and there is space on the Pibber to mount it as well.

Would you give me permission to upload that animation to the YouTube site: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=VanishingPointVideo 
You will be credited and it will be listed as an animation test for the Browning.

We have some other guns coming soon that all feature advanced programming like this, Mr Panko has been very busy, and forcing me to invent more and more complicated methods of making gun animation a one click operation, lol.


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Mazak posted Tue, 02 January 2007 at 6:51 PM

No problem; all my anims are public. So I give you permission to upload the movie. 😄
I have all your tanks and trucks; and I am very excited to see your new vehicles! :woot:

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Helgard posted Tue, 02 January 2007 at 7:05 PM

Thanks,

I have uploaded it. It sometimes takes a day or so before it is converted, depending on how busy they are. Should be visible by tommorow.

Helgard


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estherau posted Tue, 02 January 2007 at 7:40 PM

I've saved the instructions, many thanks. Your animation looks awsome. Love esther

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infinity10 posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 2:15 AM

helgard - wanna see your jeep when you're finished.  thanks.

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Helgard posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 3:02 AM

Infinity10, still about a month or two to go before it's road worthy. I still have to model the interior, seats and engine, and it will have a medic conversion as well, and two types of trailers, and textures for US, British and Russian versions, and loads of extras, like mounts for the Browning and if I get the energy there will be a wrecked version as well.


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infinity10 posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 3:34 AM

Thankx !!  All the best for your model.

My interest arises from the - wait for it - supernatural morphing dragon-jeep creature in the Japanese manga-anime series Saiyuki, created by Minekura Kazuya.  This item could be a prospect for use in my fan art . It has a Ying-Yang sign on it's bonnet, BTW  ; )

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Mazak posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 6:00 AM

Attached Link: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jeep_man/sasjeep.htm

I would like to see an SAS Jeep! (maybe as add-on). :tt1:  :biggrin:

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panko posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 6:36 AM

Quote - I would like to see an SAS Jeep! (maybe as add-on). :tt1:  :biggrin:

Hmmm... A long range desert group... Complete with characters... webbing, weaponry, gear... uniforms... Interesting... very interesting....!

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estherau posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 7:32 AM

Oh please make mercenaries first. Love esther

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Mazak posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 7:47 AM

Attached Link: http://www.mazak-grafikwelt.de/animation/jagdpanther3.mpg

> Quote - Hmmm... A long range desert group... Complete with characters... webbing, weaponry, gear... uniforms... Interesting... very interesting....!

That would absolute amazing! :thumbupboth: Here a quick shot from my library (Poserworld)And one of my oldie animations; don’t forget the Germans. 😉

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panko posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 8:02 AM

Quote - Oh please make mercenaries first. Love esther

We'll make everything at the same time, and then some more...:biggrin: Helgard, enough holidaying... back to the drawing board!...:glare:
And, Mazak, how could we possibly leave the Germans out?.............. 😄
I love the animation. Great atmosphere!

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Helgard posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 10:18 AM

Infinity, could you give me a link to a picture of this dragon jeep?

Mazak, there will be enough add-ons in the jeep for you to configure any jeep you want, from a LRDG to a peace-time safari, from a Soviet medic jeep to a beech fun car.
I will try to upload that animation, but not sure how YouTube will treat the ultra wide format.

And Panko, my apologies for holidaying, I have chained myself to the drawing board now, lol.

(and I am wondering why Mazak's LRDG character is wearing a re-textured German jacket, and not a British one?)


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Mazak posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 11:02 AM

Quote -
(and I am wondering why Mazak's LRDG character is wearing a re-textured German jacket, and not a British one?)

No idea, it is called Army and RAF uniform Set for Michael3. :blink: Maybe you ask Steve from Poserworld about it.
Or did copy the British Army a German design?! :lol:

Mazak :woot:

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infinity10 posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 11:31 AM

Helgard -

the dragon-jeep reference pictures are here:
http://juniperchew.googlepages.com/hakuryujippuref
Click on the thumbnails to see full-sized reference picture.
I have done close-ups to show the Ying-Yang symbols on the jeep.

In the story by Minekura, the jeep (called Jippu in the original Japanese version) is capable of transforming into a small white-scaled, red-eyed winged dragon (named Hakuryu or White Dragon - doh).  In another existence, the little dragon is also a bishie-boy humanoid King of the Western Heavenly Regions.

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mrsparky posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 1:18 PM

Infinity10 - I texture some of Helgards stuff  (like the DWC Truck) sometimes so might pitch in to save Helgard some time.

Whats the base colour of the jeep you want ?  
Are the Yin-Yang symbols just on the rear and the front bumper or elsewhere as well ? 

Helgard and Pankos - as the LRDG slighty pre-dated the SAS a thought for you. 
I wonder did the LRDG/SAS ever use a 'pinkie' version of the jeep ? 

Some websites state the desert pink was used in WW2. But all the Pinkies I've ever seen are where all long wheel based landrovers.  And landrovers didn't really exist until after WW2.

Helgard - don't forget to shout me if you need those closeup photos of the stretcher mounts.  

Pinky - you left the lens cap of your mind on again.


Mazak posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 1:46 PM

I never saw a pink commando Jeep. I only saw Sand or Olive drab paint. I found some hopefully useful links with some close-up model shots.

http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/artikel.php?id=1926
http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/artikel.php?id=1963
http://www.moduni.de/product_info.php/products_id/2412009

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nruddock posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 2:46 PM

Attached Link: http://www.4wdonline.com/Museums/BMIHT/PinkPanther.html

The SAS used pink jeeps. They ended up with the nickname Pink Panthers. (Tamiya made a kit and still do apparently, see -> ).

Veritas777 posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 3:05 PM

Attached Link: http://www.bigredhair.com/movies/ratpatrol.html

...don't forget The Rat Patrol...a 60's TV show that did a LOT for helping the Dune Buggy and Baja Run craze in the U.S.--ironically making use of LOTS of German made VW bugs and helping in the revival by Volkswagen of "The Thing" (German Jeep) for the US market...

The RAT PATROL theme...
http://mythemes.tv/series/ratpatro.htm

Veritas777 posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 3:12 PM

Attached Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Thing

...The Thing and the Volkswagen Kübelwagen...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_K%C3%BCbelwagen

Mazak posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 4:51 PM

Quote - The SAS used pink jeeps.
They ended up with the nickname Pink Panthers.
(Tamiya made a kit and still do apparently, see -> http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=35076).

Indeed this is a Pink Land Rover; but have we a positive confirmation on pink SAS Willys Jeeps? :unsure:

Mazak

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ranman38 posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 5:12 PM

Here is a kubelwagen I am working on


Helgard posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 6:23 PM

As far as I know the Pink Panthers where Land Rovers, and only started being used after WWII. I have never seen a photo of a Jeep with the pink paint, although the Chevy trucks of the LRDG sometimes had the pink paint as well. But I could be totally wrong.

http://gunpoint-3d.com/model-LRD.html

http://www.deespona.com/3denciclopedia/models/lrdg.html

The Tamiya kit above is definitely not a Willy's Jeep.


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nruddock posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 6:32 PM

Attached Link: http://hegewisch.net/blindkat/lrdg/lrdgvehicles.html

My mistake.

The SAS and LRDG did use Jeeps, so it would seem reasonable that they would have used the same camouflage scheme
(sketch here -> http://hegewisch.net/blindkat/lrdg/lrdgpatrol.html).

Helgard posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 9:41 PM

Lol, one pink Willy's jeep coming up. I will refrain from putting bunny ears and a small rabbit tail on the back. Thanks for the link, very useful for paint schemes.


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nruddock posted Thu, 04 January 2007 at 10:16 AM

Quote - Thanks for the link, very useful for paint schemes.

Sometimes you just get lucky with Google 😉

infinity10 posted Mon, 08 January 2007 at 5:09 AM

mrsparky -

sorry for delayed reply - just lost a close relative and spending time on arrangements.

In the anime (animation version), the ying-yang sign appears on the hood (bonnet) where most hood ornaments go.  The jeep is military green.  In the original manga version (the graphic novel, samples provided at my link above) , the symbols are as depicted.

Oh, in case you guys want to make the matching Smith n Wesson, it's got a ying-yang symbol on the side.

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