meterman opened this issue on Jan 03, 2007 · 18 posts
meterman posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 9:46 AM
I'm running into problems with memory I keep getting a message to save my work and to allocate more memory to poser... When I save it I'll try to open it again and all my work is gone ...... ...Help me Feed this memory addiction my computer has...
EnglishBob posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 11:33 AM
Poser's "out of memory" message is usually an indication that something else has gone wrong for which there is no error message. ;) You can't assign more memory under Windows anyway. Did you get any other error messages prior to that one? What were you doing at the time? As you've seen, by the time you get the message telling you to save your work, it's too late to save your work. It's a good habit to save before you do anything stressful, such as rendering, adding another figure, making a cup of coffee etc. :)
meterman posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 12:10 PM
Actually I was saving all along then as I added another prop or such I again saved then it happened . It rendered fine it just wouldn't save my file anymore once i received the message I could continue working until it was time stop for the night but nothing would save to the files file went to 0MB so I was unable import file too Vue.
Dizzi posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 5:15 PM
Sounds like you're using Poser without any Service Release... You should download it from e-frontier's website.
Miss Nancy posted Wed, 03 January 2007 at 6:13 PM
check all the files for any paths to textures or objects that are missing. particularly the prop that causes poser to give that message. I was hoping they would have fixed this in P7.
mdbruffy posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 7:11 PM
There's one other thing you might try too. Before you start your Poser program, find the PoserRenderCache file- usually it's in the temp file in Local settings- and empty it. Poser has a default setting that only allows it to save ten temp files. If you've been doing more than ten work window test renders, that file most likely needs emptying.
Might help.
deni67 posted Fri, 02 February 2007 at 7:14 PM
You could try giving it more memory with windows but hitting Ctrl Alt delete on your keyboard..When the windows task manager comes up click on processes..Right click on the poser exe and set the priority to above normal...A warning though..Never set it to real time or it will crash your system..lol
Dizzi posted Sat, 03 February 2007 at 6:39 AM
Quote - You could try giving it more memory with windows but hitting Ctrl Alt delete on your keyboard..When the windows task manager comes up click on processes..Right click on the poser exe and set the priority to above normal...A warning though..Never set it to real time or it will crash your system..lol
That has nothing to do with memory anyway.
deni67 posted Sat, 03 February 2007 at 6:54 AM
Why do people do that in this place...Everywhere i go in these forums people are rude...Makes me thinks most of them here are kids...I made a statement of which i know works for me and i said he could try and all you come back with is "That has nothing to do with memory anyway"...Wouldn't it have been polite to have at least given an explanation as to why instead of just one sentence that came across as pure arrogance!!!!!!
Lory posted Fri, 16 February 2007 at 12:25 PM
Quote - Why do people do that in this place...Everywhere i go in these forums people are rude...Makes me thinks most of them here are kids...I made a statement of which i know works for me and i said he could try and all you come back with is "That has nothing to do with memory anyway"...Wouldn't it have been polite to have at least given an explanation as to why instead of just one sentence that came across as pure arrogance!!!!!!
Dear Deni67, unfortunately all forums on many sites, no matter the topic, are full with rude people... guess they got nothing better to do... sad...
Anyway, back on topic... meterman if nothing else makes you solve this problem**,** it might be useful for you to actually buy some more memory for you computer. I have 1 GB and never got this error message.... even when I use in the same time Adobe or surfing the net while rendering... and I listen music most of times... but maybe I am just lucky :D
kuroyume0161 posted Sat, 17 February 2007 at 2:08 AM
Well, setting the priority has nothing to do with memory. ;P It has to do with how much 'attention' a process is given by the CPU over other processes - nothing more.
You cannot set the amount of memory an application uses in Windows (or MacOSX). It is allocated as needed up til your memory is exhausted or it has reached the bit limit (32-bit = 2GB in this case). Virtual memory can help - but that is used mainly for page swapping when using multiple applications - it is not a memory extension beyond the bit limit. (!!!)
Agreed - get more memory. 1GB is minimum these days (unless you aren't doing anything much - email and internet). 2GB is good. 3GB is better if you have dual-core or dual-processors. Since Poser isn't 64-bit, you can't get the advantage of like 16GB of memory - even if it physically exists.
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deni67 posted Sat, 17 February 2007 at 2:57 AM
Thank you for the support Lory and thank you for explaining it without being arrogant Kuroyume...Funny thing with my machine is that i have 512 mb ram and can run poser 7..photo shop...browse the net and listen to music all at the same time whereas my partner has 1 gb of ram and can barely have poser running without problems..lol
meterman posted Sat, 17 February 2007 at 6:51 AM
Thank you for giving me all these different avenues to approach I just recently upgraded from 1GB to 2 GB so i've done that I have a Pentuim 4 Chip I currently have a C + G harddrive space I've Defragged my comp a few times now And I too was able to listen to music run poser 5 , photoshop and surf the web but after awhile of using poser 6 these problems started I receive that message you are out of virtual memory you must allocate more memory to Poser , but now I'm receiving messages on numerous programs like internet explore having to close due to C++ Error can't open Firefox due to .exe issue etc. Someone bought up it could be a power supply issue how due I check that? Or anyother suggestions?
IF YOU CAN"T HELP!!! DO NOT DISCOURAGE THOSE HERE THAT ATLEAST TOOK TIME AWAY FROM TO TRY!!!!!!!! Thanks all , The MeterMan
svdl posted Sat, 17 February 2007 at 1:36 PM
2 GB of memory should be enough indeed.
Out of virtual memory: could you post your virtual memory settings? There may be something there that could be improved.
Errors like IE having to close due to a C++ error is NOT good. Your computer might have contracted a virus - which also could be an explanation of your Poser troubles.
Another possibility is overheating. If the inside of your computer is clogged with dust, it won't cool, and overheating will get you those errors. Cleaning out the computer might help.
An extra case fan might also help keeping your machine cooler.
Modern machines often have temperature monitoring hardware on board. You can monitor the temperature by starting up your computer and hitting or
A third possibility is a hard disk that's about to die horribly. Does the disk sound "strange", noisier than usual? Then it is time for a dash to the hardware store and get a new disk. Burn your data to a CD/DVD, or transfer them over a network to another computer, before installing the new disk.
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kuroyume0161 posted Sat, 17 February 2007 at 1:36 PM
Woah. All that sounds like either bad memory, bad harddrive, or worse (virus/spyware). If applications just start having all sorts of problems - there is something more fundamental going on then.
A power supply issue would mean that it is either going bad (happens on occasion) or is not powerful enough for all of the equipment in the computer. I'm no expert on how to determine this, but usually go by what the motherboard states as a minimum and then add 50-100 Watts for good measure.
You may want to take the computer in for professional servicing - if it's still under warranty, make sure to take advantage of it.
ETA: And svdl's suggestion about overheating/dust is a good thing to pursue (from personal experience that). If your BIOS has temperature monitoring, you should find out what the safe temperature range is, get into the BIOS on computer startup, and check the running temps. Some motherboard manufactures provide software that lets you monitor this in Windows and even set alarms.
C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the
foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do, you blow your whole leg
off.
-- Bjarne
Stroustrup
Contact Me | Kuroyume's DevelopmentZone
svdl posted Sat, 17 February 2007 at 1:45 PM
The most power hungry Pentium 4 chip that I know of consumes up to 140 W.
The most power hungry graphics cards can consume up to about 150 W.
Then there's hard disks, USB devices, optical drives, the mainboard itself. Those components are not as power hungry as a CPU or graphics card, but they sure need power.
For a Pentium 4 system, a 300 W PSU is a bare minimum. And the quality of the PSU is very important too - a low quality cheap 400 W PSU delivers less power than a good quality 300 W PSU!
Did those "C++ error" messages show up AFTER you installed the new memory? In that case, it's rather likely that one of the memory sticks is bad. You can test that by setting the Quick POST option in the BIOS set up to Disabled - at the next reboot the system will test your memory chips before even attempting to start the operating system. If there's a bad memory module, the POST (Power On Self Test) will most probably discover it.
The pen is mightier than the sword. But if you literally want to have some impact, use a typewriter
svdl posted Sat, 17 February 2007 at 1:49 PM
Oh, thought of another thing. You could power up the machine with the hood off and check whether all fans work. I had to replace a mainboard last Christmas because the southbridge (the controller that takes care of hard disks, network, USB and so on) had gotten overheated due to a non-function fan. Expensive lesson, it cost me close to € 400 (needed to buy a new graphics card too, since the new mainboard didn't have an AGP slot. And needed a new PSU due to shortage of Molex connectors on the old PSU. Grrr.).
The pen is mightier than the sword. But if you literally want to have some impact, use a typewriter
trfalk posted Thu, 08 March 2007 at 1:25 AM
Listen to svdl about this temperature setting!!!
I burned my motherboard up doing a Maya dynamics render - when I opened the case, I had Dust Rhinos wrapped around the heat sink. One moment to use compressed air ($10 can) would have saved me many hundreds of dollars.
Another thing I do with memory is settings on Virtual Memory for the machine. I like to set it double the amount of RAM i have in both minimun and maximums. (example - 1GB RAM, virtual memory 2GB) and make sure you aways have 2GB space.
Check for virus. Try CCleaner program (free) for general maintainence. Clear out old renders from cache, and also consider clearing Undo cache as well (like right after a filesave)