wotdoin opened this issue on Mar 06, 2007 · 46 posts
wotdoin posted Tue, 06 March 2007 at 10:15 PM
I am just wondering, is this legal?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Create-Erotic-Nude-Female-or-Male-Art-Like-This_W0QQitemZ220087199531QQihZ012QQcategoryZ20118QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
pjz99 posted Tue, 06 March 2007 at 10:26 PM
I see the guy stole one of Aery_Soul's promo images, not cool. Some other obvious thefts that I don't recognize the artists for, but clearly promo images from here.
wotdoin posted Tue, 06 March 2007 at 10:35 PM
I did not think that auction was legal in the first place but stealing someones images to sell information on a program is just disgraceful!
drifterlee posted Tue, 06 March 2007 at 10:53 PM
he must be selling copies of Poser. Why else would he use those images?
LadyElf posted Tue, 06 March 2007 at 11:05 PM
He's not selling copies of Poser. What he is doing is selling a text file with information on where to get tutorials, the software (Poser) etc.
So, what you are bidding on is a file that tells you where to buy the stuff.
The images that he has stolen (because he has) came from here, and he's duping people into buying links etc.....
What is so sad about this is, that some people actually will pay him for information you can get for free.
That's pathetic.
pjz99 posted Tue, 06 March 2007 at 11:12 PM
Was trying to go through the MP here and place some of the other images (particularly the pale blonde at the bottom) but I couldn't locate them out of the first 50 pages of V3 content ... :(
Messaged Aery_Soul about it. If anyone recognizes the other two obvious thefts it would be a good idea to message their owners.
Unicornst posted Tue, 06 March 2007 at 11:39 PM
drifterlee posted Tue, 06 March 2007 at 11:46 PM
I think I saw danae's Manhattan, Milan. he does say "Picture like these". I think he still needs permission, doesn't he?
Jumpstartme2 posted Tue, 06 March 2007 at 11:55 PM
There is a link at the very bottom to report it....
Funny this guy has high feedback points...
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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StevieG1965 posted Tue, 06 March 2007 at 11:55 PM
Yeah, one pic is The Metropolitan Collection - Manhattan -
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=41330
and the other one belongs to Rhiannon - Lyla
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=43688&vendor=Rhiannon
drifterlee posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 12:06 AM
I think some people are just stupid. I'm not excusing this person. But I once used a small picture of Elvis Presley in a render and figured it was alright because he was dead. I once worked for a newspaper (I am a retired editor) where they said "Any image posted on the web is up for grabs" That's people's attitudes. They need to be made aware of copyright laws.
Jumpstartme2 posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 12:11 AM
This guy is actually saying he did all those images himself...guh..the nerve of some people..and if you read some of the comments left..he is indeed selling links/lists or links to Poser and other software.....and people are paying 5 bucks for this list??
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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pjz99 posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 12:22 AM
Jumpstartme2 posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 12:26 AM
Right? I think we're in the wrong line of business...we should all get some of our images together as promo's, make a list of all the programs we used to make the images, get the links together where we bought the programs, and make a list to sell too :laugh:
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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pjz99 posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 12:29 AM
That would at least be more honest than just ripping off somebody else's promo art!
Jumpstartme2 posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 12:47 AM
Totally honest if we were to tell everyone its a list...and thanks for sending a note to Danae and Rhiannon, hopefully they'll see this and get that guy reported.
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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pjz99 posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 12:50 AM
Jumpstartme2 posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 12:55 AM
ROTFL! :lol: I got dibs on yahoo.com
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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Acadia posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 12:57 AM
I have dibs on how to locate things in the Poser community!!!! hehe Oh, and Google! And while I'm at it I could throw in some tips on how to spoil your fur babies (cats)
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
ockham posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 1:32 AM
I want to auction off "How to Receive Lots of Artistically Engraved Letterheads From Law Firms, and How to Gain Experience in Correctional Institutions, All For Free!"
Jumpstartme2 posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 1:42 AM
Hehehe
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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drifterlee posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 1:56 AM
LOL!!! I would pay good money on how to lose 50 pounds!!!
drifterlee posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 2:00 AM
Years ago, when comic books were in every drug store, a guy that worked with my husband took out an ad in a comic book, it said: "Kids, make money! Send $2.00 to find out how!"
He sent them a list of how to rake leaves, shovel snow, etc.!!! LOL!
Jumpstartme2 posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 2:16 AM
LOL That reminds me of that chain letter type thing that goes around the net sometimes....you have a list of people who agree to be on a mailing list, and you pick a few to send $1.00 to..then request all the others that you send to to do the same and remove one name from the top, and replace it with their own....supposed to make tons of money that way.....funny thing tho, I got a couple of those chain letters before, but strangely I didnt get one with a dollar in it :lol:
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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gillbrooks posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 5:31 AM
This person seems to be a con merchant whichever way you look at it. Anyone looked at the other 'items' they're sellng??
This one in particular struck me as such....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Make-Money-On-Ebay-Without-Selling-On-Ebay_W0QQitemZ220085836084QQihZ012QQcategoryZ102485QQcmdZViewItem
Gill
pjz99 posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 5:35 AM
Oh I also liked the exclusive game guides for Eve Online and World of Warcraft :rolleyes:
Jimdoria posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 9:57 AM
I will agree this is borderline sleazy, and stealing somebody else's promo images is probably illegal.
But what's inherently wrong with selling information? Even information people can get for free? There's labor involved in "harvesting" free info, filtering it and aggregating it in a way that makes sense, and people will pay for the service.
There are lots of people and even whole companies who make their business repackaging free information.
drifterlee posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 1:21 PM
Ebay is the first place the police look for stolen goods. We had tack thieves in our area, and the police found some of the stolen saddles on Ebay.
akibabe posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 1:23 PM
omg!!! i just read the link. terrible man.... and how rude of that person , stealing promo pics and claiming as his? damn. hope someone reports him...
UVDan posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 2:52 PM Forum Moderator
**Stealing the images and claiming them for his own is wrong, but selling the links on Ebay is pure inspiration and I wish I had thought of it.
Craigslist is the first place I check for stolen property.**
Free men do not ask permission to bear
arms!!
Dave-So posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 5:58 PM
drifterlee...here's the solution....
quit eating and exercise...
NOW SEND ME MY $50 ....
Paypal is OK ... IM me and I'll give you the email address to use.
Humankind has not
woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound
together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle,
1854
Jumpstartme2 posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 6:13 PM
:lol: Actually if you quit eating, your body will begin to store the fat..making you larger....so, eat the right stuff, and exercise...
I also accept PayPal, and will undercut Dave and charge only $40.00 :laugh:
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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fls13 posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 6:38 PM
Attached Link: My latest attempt to get my 3d work stolen
I'm thinking of auctioning off my next bowel movement on Ebay.
Jumpstartme2 posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 7:26 PM
Ya know, I bet someone would buy it too :laugh:....you could even say its one of a kind..and not be dishonest about it LOL
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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slinger posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 8:03 PM
How does this sound for an ad?
"Ladies, send your photo to slinger@xxxxxxxx.com and if you are selected I will provide one night of total sexual satisfaction in the comfort of your own home. All it will cost you is £10.00 plus my travel expenses.
If you are not completely satisfied I will refund the £10.00 in the morning."
~lmao~
The liver is evil - It must be punished.
Conniekat8 posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 8:20 PM
Isn't this guy in violation of copyright laws taking the images from here or eherever the sellers advertised them, and using them for promotion of his item... especially without crediting the vendors????
Hi, my namez: "NO, Bad Kitteh, NO!" Whaz
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pjz99 posted Wed, 07 March 2007 at 8:31 PM
Yes he is, and ebay will surely pull the auction if they haven't already.
edit: the original auction from the first post has closed, but one is still running:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220089014158&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Stores&refitem=220087199531&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&refwidgettype=osi_widget
R_Hatch posted Thu, 08 March 2007 at 1:03 AM
Well, I think it's no wonder there are so many scum with excellent reps on eBarf, just look at this auction (by the same guy as the other crap in this thread).
Oddly enough, I don't bother with eBay.
Jumpstartme2 posted Thu, 08 March 2007 at 4:49 AM
Yup, the creators of those promo's need to get over there and report his auctions
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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pjz99 posted Thu, 08 March 2007 at 4:50 AM
Aery_Soul and Danae have both acknowleded messages about this, I'm sure they're taking action.
MGDesign posted Thu, 08 March 2007 at 7:50 AM
"Now for the low price of this auction I'll going to tell you what software you need and where to get it at a fraction of it's cost. (retail price is few hundred dollars)
I'll tell you where to get all the models for the software( men, women, children, cloth ,hair, preset poses, props and etc)"
Oh please do not tell me he is giving links to illigal download files? This sucks, I keep getting amazed by the stuff they sell and make bucks for at Ebay ....
Reminds me, I was pointed somewere yesterday, and some 3D art was involved, if you know who made these:
(I think they are 3Dart from here, maybe I am wrong, in that case sorry for crying wolf)
xXx Donna
° To those who can dream there is no such place as faraway
°
pjz99 posted Thu, 08 March 2007 at 8:43 AM
Oh no, from all appearances it looks like he is simply giving links to www.e-frontier.com, www.daz3d.com and www.renderosity.com. Does that make you feel better? ;)
tailz posted Thu, 08 March 2007 at 4:35 PM
Every day I am amazed by the crap people sell on ebay, and the people who buy it.
Tiari posted Thu, 08 March 2007 at 7:57 PM
Ebay in and of itself is not bad........ its some of the idiots that use it. I can't believe this dude is selling guides to making gold on warcraft. I happen to play that, and the secret is....... dun dun dun, "farm for items that sell for a lot". Rediculous.
And selling an "erotic" image for a penny to view? Didn't those lil penny peeps go out in the 1920's? ROFL. This guy is a peice of work.
MGDesign posted Fri, 09 March 2007 at 12:32 AM
@pjz99: just a little, that guys is either completely nuts or realy smart : ( (not to talk about the ones that buy something from him)
Yes I noticed the WoW gold guide too, I am a player as well, and it bugs me to see such things.
Gold smell so much better when earned the hard way =") smell her ingame pixels
I will check today (need to run to the office now) if that weirdo is still running these sales, I so hope not...
xXx Donna
° To those who can dream there is no such place as faraway
°
tailz posted Fri, 09 March 2007 at 1:18 AM
Quote - And selling an "erotic" image for a penny to view? Didn't those lil penny peeps go out in the 1920's? ROFL. This guy is a peice of work.
He would not be doing it, if people were not buying it.