I'm just venting/fuming a little over the no-demo situation; yes yes there're always bugs here and there but why not throw out a demo and let the people test all the new interesting features; I was extremly interested in Vue 6 and it would have been cool to testdrive a demo (I don't care the darn bugs) but 6 months after the Siggraph show there's nothing to have fun with... :::::-(      (crying helplessly)