**Whimsical posted a link to this piece of modelling candy......

It can do things I've never seen before - ie: bend cylinders and it's VERY fast and very simple. I can see it replacing the heretical Wings3d.......LOL
It's free for 15 days, then you have to register, but that's free too!

I'll check with the other Cardinals to see where we stand on this one.**

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I hope they approve it... it does look promising.

Yeah, it's like Amorphium.

Cool that its free.

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I did the download and fiddled with it a bit...... looks promising. Lou.

"..... and that was when things got interestiing."

Cool!! Looks like you can texture models inside the proggie and even export normal maps(which a Carrara plug-in can use) from your high-poly model. I do hope that His Eminence and the other Cardinals decide that it's heretical (after all, it's free, like Wings) otherwise I won't enjoy using it as much. ;-)

Place yer bets;
Will the official 1.0 version cost $$?

(Probably, but it would be cool if they kept the free beta available to lure potential buyers)

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It seems to be associated with the parent company that Solidworks is associated with.... which makes me think it would eventually cost $$$.

I made this.... I could not erase the second copy.. nor could I open the obj file in Bryce... Something about not finding an DLL... It feels a little sluggish.. I did used my Wacom Tablet to paint...

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I did delete an object I made, but I had to do it piece by piece.

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It's an interesting program.... can do some nice jellyfish... but making a non-organic object seems a bit hard.

Yup, like in ZBrush. It's possible but its a fight to do so.

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Well... I dunno... seems good for blobs and organic stuff... Could probably do some nice space scene of organic alien "floaters" that live in high gaseous (sp?) planets, or some underwater bubble thing.... My first impressions.

nice object you made ..... this program acts like mud or zbrush,, I mean just from the type objects and the way it intends to function....

I went for the already made objects........

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It's a lot of fun...I have had it for a while..This is the reg rules...

THIS IS A 15-DAY FULLY-FUNCTIONAL BETA VERSION.
AFTER THIS PERIOD, YOU MUST REGISTER TO CONTINUE USING THE SOFTWARE ABSOLUTELY FREE OF CHARGE

This is an interesting program,some tweaking and it will be great.Made this with it and imported into bryce.

"Reinstall Windows" is NOT a troubleshooting step.

WHAT ABOUT EXPORTING .obj?!!
IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH EXPORTING???
I Just snagged and bagged this puppy - can I USE this thing for BRYCE / DAZ STUDIO stuff now in it's BETA form - or is it just a kinky coffee time toy that CAN'T REALLY EXPORT USEABLE MESHES?!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

It exported my jellyfish just fine.

ok - cool - panic attack over - 10'4 good buddy....

I couldn't export - whats the trick?

OK - OK - NOW I'M GETTING WORRIED.....

Woah! This is fun....

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But I've got absolutely no idea what I'm doing...

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Cooo, Colour!

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yes mugsey... you can EXPORT... you cannot IMPORT.. too bad for that....

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tom271 seen that and pressed it - no joy

I could export it, but there was a problem with the image - it didn't export, so when I got it into Bryce, no colour.

So I used a 9mats material by xceiverx

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look in your my documents folder for a my cb models folder.Thats where it exported to on my pc.

"Reinstall Windows" is NOT a troubleshooting step.

You might want to run it through UVmapper... just load it and resave it again.... my stuff came out just fine in Bryce...

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Pity you can't decide what to call the file you're saving - or exporting, I do hope it won't keep saving it as "file1" all the time.

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I think you can import, but it's tricky. I only tried it once. Imported an ivy from the Ivy Generator... it came into the program, was listed, but the ivy exceded the poly count. It was the only .obj I had available at the time. What you do is copy the obj file to the directory where the other .obj's are at. A restart of the program might be needed, but it wasn't for me. The thing found the ivy by the time I alt-tabbed back to it.

Thanks DM... I thought of that method too but never tried it.... I guess the planted obj file has to be reasonable in size...

I do hope it won't keep saving it as "file1" all the time.

No it saves it in a numeric sequence... file 1, file 2, file /n....

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Hmmm, I got an idea to try with a "sheet" primitive. Might be just the thing to make a row of curling, crashing breakers on a seashore. I'll post a WIP later.

I tried a few times making a curled parchment... someone had asked about that some weeks before. I get close with it, but not close enough. It does well for wavey flags ;-)

I've got two things to try... an organic chair and curtains. Hrm... memories of 1920 gangster movies "it's curtains for you!" come to mine......

Can do some nice pillows... Maybe it's time to do a harem scene with lots of pillows. Either that or a marshmellows (sp?) for a candy theme. Or melting ice cubes....

The program has a bit of solidworks feel to it. The animated effect when moving the camera around in particular.

Ooo maybe tentacles!

Another way to import, between the two blue arrows in the toolbox menu, there's either a blue folder or another icon that looks like a pyramid, cube, sphere... click that and it'll open a Windows Explorer window where you can select items to import. Must be 100 kb or less. The PDF file explains better on page 4.

If you import an object with sharp edges, the program will round it. So a pyramid will import looking like a marshmellow (sp?) pyramid.

marshimelloes..... with hot cocoa...

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All I know is - I'm gonna hold on to this bad boy cause it's gonna go big bucks once the kinks are out - and ya never know when it's gonna come in handy.

Fran, when are you going to cover that in Ivy?

OK if you can import tell me how. I could nto fidn an import function. If I can paint normal maps might prove interesting.

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There's a short (12 pages)well-written PDF manual available on the site. It explains the import procedure there. Sounds like it converts everything to tri's, even when the imported primitive is quads to begin with. Of course, I don't think that will matter a bit if you are exporting a normal map out of the program to use in another.

Quote - Fran, when are you going to cover that in Ivy?

Uncle,
Ah, never thought of that, Lol! - I'll have to install the Ivy prog on the laptop, and CB Modeller too, I was just playing with it at the weekend on the PC at home.

**danamo,
** I couldn't find any manual on the site, - I'll have to look again.

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I spoke with Thomas Luft - the guy that designed the IVY GENERATOR - and he commented that he's considering revising the license to clarify it in order to say that the SOFTWARE ITSELF is not for integration into commercial products, but IMAGES produced USING the program will be the artists property - and thus - be useable royalty free for commercial purposes.

Fran , you can find the online documentation ( or copy the PDF) on the bottom of the FAQ's page, where it says- "Q: Can I browse the documentation online?
A: Yes, CB Model Pro Documentation".

The program does have some interesting uses. It goes great to model a shape perfect for something like steam from a coffee cup. It works well making something that looks like coffee residue.. like after you start drinking some cappuccino and a bit of that foam is on the inside side of the cup.. that kind of stuff. I'm just having a tiny bit of trouble modeling my foam texture to that sort of shape. Need more time to play with it.

" I*t goes great to model a shape perfect for something like steam from a coffee cup. It works well making something that looks like coffee residue.. "

could you show some samples of that steam.... even if it is a little crude....

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Here's a bit what I mean. It's crude, but I think makes the point. The solid (yes it's transparent looking, but there's no transparency bead involved) foam material on the ground shows the shape of the object. It's made from a sphere that's been pulled and poked a bit. I was experimenting with trying to make the foam look like it's residue inside the cup. Meanwhile, in the cup is the same object ontop of the original foam. You can barely see the CB Model Pro object, but it's there. I figure with better mats and more dedication someone could model something that could make a shape for steam.

I've tried to make nice vapors using just Bryce objects and there was always something not right (probably my skill level at the time). What I do like about this CB Model Pro program is it's like the TE with better control. Easier to pull/poke and rotate them all around.

Anyway, this is all just experimentation. Crude experiments, but something is indeed here. Just gotta flesh it out.

Oh, anyway, forgot to mention... what I was experimenting with here coffee cup thing was to make some slight steam.. not a whole lot, just a whisper of it. With that in mind, you can see there's a bit of something over the foam. But, crude experiment.. same mat as the foam.. so kinda blended with the foam. More experiments later though.

I can see just barely something in trems of steam.... But in over all I see what you can do... very nice use of CB material... They should be updating CB Model... It might be worth while writing and letting them know you like their program..

Mean time can you please pick up that mess you made.....

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That steam might show up better (in the cup) if the cup was a darker material... maybe.

Looks pretty good on the ground, although it doesn't look as if it's actually resting on the ground, but that's probably because it's frothy...

I can't remember, did you say you were planning on making this coffee cup etc a freebie? or is it for a commercial project?

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:-) I haven't thought about freebie or commercial model with the cup. I would like to actually produce a physical cup and have started the research on pricing and location. I could order 100 of the ceramics for under $200 if I do it overseas, but shipping will be a killer. No clue yet on the metal part... my contact is currently looking into that. I have no clue about putting a logo for a store on it.

Is it possible to reverse engineer a model? Take an .obj and pass it back into Rhino or some other CAD program and approximate dimensions? I think it is, so will have to consider this. Then again it's really not difficult to just do one to look like this one.

I'm also looking into local patent laws if I do have this thing made overseas.

Opinions on making this a freebie is welcomed because I would want to do that. Either that or sell it to the Poser folks. If it does become a freebie, it'll be only to those in this Bryce forum.

I'll need some time to think about it.

Okay, I have thought of this a bit and will release the cup as a freebie to the Bryce forum. I will need later today to slap together a readme file and stuff like that. What would be the most convenient format? .Obj?

I could use cup like that.... Thanks..

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Okay, so does this CB Modeler program meet the approval of the cardinals? Can we start using it without guilt?

well Bryce user always used other Apps from time to time...
So there would be no harm in" MY EYES" to use it... but too much water in the Whiskey too often and you wind up with soda pop in your glass.. Is this what you are talking about....

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Ooooh! .obj for me! Goody. I have watched the progress of this expresso cup since you first began it, it's so nice to see it going through all the stages like this. Do let us know when you start selling the real life object.

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Has anyone had problems registering it? My browser just goes blank, and I haven't yet had an e-mail from them...

No problems for me. I used my gmail account and within five minutes Google Talk reported the email had arrived. I just now checked it and it's there.

Strange that the browser goes blank. If you have a second browser try with that. I usually keep two on one machine incase one goes crazy. It worked fine with IE7 for me.

I use FireFox for everything, but I've tried it in IE6 and got the same. I contacted Dassault and they say they have no record of me trying to register either my name or e-mail, so I guess the submit button doesn't work for me. Could anything cause that?

Try un-installing FF and re-installing.... Also check option>privatecy tab> cookies.. make sure that site has not been added as "not allow"... you could delete the cookies for that site, turn off FF and restart... try reaching the site again... sometime cookies get cooked....

If you have a virus program.. see if that site has been nixed somehow.... I had renderosity appear in the no login list.... I don't know how... I thought I had a bug.. I could not log into Res....

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***"What is the deal with the "Cardinal" references?"

***Some 'round here say it's religious herecy to use anything other than Bryce, except for certain blessed exceptions (I think UV Mapper qualifies on heritage grounds). It is said that they are just joking, but they are really quite serious. These are the Cardinals. Or the Cardigans. Or the Jersey Royals. Or somesuch.

I get away with it because although I own Carrrara and Hexagon, I'm too busy and too stupid to actually learn to use them.

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Thanks PJF. :laugh:

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Hey has anyone tried that Art of Illusion here yet?
I d'led it from sourceforge.net but im afraid to install it.
Thought i d/l just for posterity it case it disappeared to lack of interest
kinda like 4DBlue

I'm not too sure if I want to install it either. Every time I use a complex Java application and leave it running for a long time, it gets slower and slower.

Has anyone notice that the forum link at CB Modeler goes to SolidWorks discussion forums?

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I hadn't noticed, but SolidWorks and CB Modeler are from the same parent company.

But trust me, the user feel to SolidWorks is way different.

Cardinal Bryster likes CB Modeller! ;-)

Knock yourselves out!

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i payed $160 for hexagon 2.1 yeah i coulda got it for $2 at a later time but figured i got plenty of free or next to free from daz already carrara basic2 for 2 bucks and bryce 6.1 for $6 so i wasnt
feeling ripped, h2 is pretty good when ya get used to it just dont like the smoothing its either on
or off.
i've yet to do anything i like CB2 tho

I got in on that trio of deals. I had been looking for a mesh modeler. Bryce and Carrara 3D Basics give me something to render them in. This new app looks pretty good to me as well.

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Here's an interesting tutorial...
http://s101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/TMeeks/CB%20Model%20Pro/?action=view&current=CylinderAircraft.flv

And here's another interesting site, linked from the CB Modeler Pro site.. as some sort of official fan site. http://cbmodelprofans.blogspot.com/ I haven't explored everywhere in that link, but it does seem to have tutorials and stuff.

A Great tut on making a 'plane' out of a cylinder! I love that you can make the movie go to full screen also!
Thanks for the links!

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