haegerst opened this issue on Mar 26, 2007 · 10 posts
haegerst posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 10:29 AM
OK, a few questions, some easier some harder to answer i guess. I hope i can get at least a few answers here. :)
Copy protected vue files. I have read that you can create copy protected vue files, I dont have such an option when saving files, is this because I have Vue 6 Esprit and not infinite? Or where do i find the option hidden?
Including tectures in the file. Vue support had written in some issue that you should include textures in the file. Do i need to have infinite+ to use that or where's the option hidden?
Render Cow vs Render Bull. I really searched hard, but what i didnt find out: Whats the difference between RenderCow and RenderBull? Is the name the only difference and RenderBull = XStream and RenderCow = Infinite, etc? Is the name the only real difference?
RenderCow standalone. When i install rendercow on a clean computer in my Network without anything else installed, will it render my pictures? Or does Vue 6 need to be installed on that computer? And as i would have 5 Rendercow nodes included in the package: Can i install Rendercow on like 20 computers or do i need more licenses then? I ask as Vue 6 esprit + Hypervue can only handle 5 nodes, do i need to pay for the 15 sleeping nodes then?
Hope someone knows one or several answers to these questions. Thanks in advance!!!
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forester posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 10:48 AM
I can answer the first two questions, I think. For Vue (5 or 6) Infinite, it is possible to create vue objects that cannot be exported. This is done via check box available during the process of saving the object. This is not the same as "copy protected vue files." Cornucopia3d web site uses a special process for vendors who wish to submit their models for sale and request "copy protection" for those models. (This request is made by checking a box at during the process of submitting a model to the Store.) But, within any version of Vue, it is not possible for you to create a "copy protected model" yourself. In Vue 5 and 6 Infinite only, it is possible to create a model/object where any textures are incorporated into the object file. This is done via a check box during the save process. Incorporating a model's textures should be done in conjunction with "Use Compressed Mode." By using both, you are creating a special compressed file that is analogous to a winzip file. Can't answer your other two questions, but someone else will be able to do so.
wabe posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 10:51 AM
Ok, some answers.
Copy protection. What you can do yourself is to lock an item for export. You will find this when you do a right click onto an object and go for "edit object". There you'll find this button. What you maybe mean is encryption. This is an e-on own technology and is done for brokers that sell their stuff at Cornucopia3D. But be careful, the word "encryption" can easily create a flame here. We have had that several times already.
Yes, to embedd textures is a Infinite only feature. But no problems, for those who do not have that it is of course possible to add the textures separately in the same folder.
RenderCow versus RenderBull. RenderCows are the little helpers that are installed on your network computers and do the work when you decide to do network rendering. RenderBull instead is a program designed for commercial render farms or studios that want to control network rendering with this. So you don't have to care for that. To confuse everybody, for network rendering a basic (and normally in the dialog not visible) version of Renderbull is used as well.
RenderCow standalone. You need only cows on your network computers. AND on one - the host - Vue installed to manage your cows. Unfortunately Esprit by default does not have network rendering, you will need to buy the extra module HyperVue to do that.
You can find all the details in this comparative chart here: www.e-onsoftware.com/products/
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haegerst posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 11:13 AM
Thanks for the very fast answers!
Copy Protection: I do not have the "disable exports" function as i dont have Vue infinite (I think i read that its infinite only), does that mean export is always enabled?
Included textures: As i dont have infinite I guess i have to also include textures in all models/scenes. Does this also apply to plants? When i buy infinite do i never have to add textures when sending my file to a friend? Or is it rather that the textures are included in objects, but not scenes? Ah sorry if i ask too much. I'm still new to vue 6 and skipped 5 so i missed many features...
RenderCow: I am currently thinking about network rendering. I could buy the extra module for like 40 Euros. Or i upgrade to infinite (Currently collecting reasons). Or i just forget about it. I'm really unsure if i "got a use" for network rendering right now (I dont have 5 computers here, i could use my notebook though).
Thanks for the help, fellows! ^^
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forester posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 12:34 PM
Yes, if you are not using Infinite, "export" is always enabled, in effect. If you have Infinite (either V5 or V6), you have the option to include texture files (and any special Vue material files) whenever you save a model with the "Include Textures" box checked. This means that any textures and materials will always be included with the model if you send it to a friend, or change its location on your own computer. No more double-checking the path to textures, or problems if you accidentally delete a texture directory. For purchasers of models made by pro's, it is a real convenience.
lingrif posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 12:56 PM
A little more clarification:
With Vue Infinite, you get 5 rendercows in the package - one rendercow per computer. You can buy more rendercows if needed at e-on.
A definition of Renderbull from the e-on site:
If you need to integrate Vue 6 into a renderfarm that runs several different applications, you can take advantage of the optional stand-alone render node, the RenderBull.
The RenderBull is a command-line renderer designed to become part of larger renderfarm management tools such as BackBurner.
haegerst posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 1:59 PM
Thanks so much for answering my questions!
I'm currently thinking about a vue 6 infinite sidegrade, someone help me collecting reasons please. I'm just collecting the Pros as obviously there should be no cons for upgrading from Esprit to infinite. I know theres the comparison chart with 1000s of technical terms, i just wanted to haer it from infinite users what made YOU choose infinite over esprit/studio?
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wabe posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 2:16 PM
Painting ecosystems - 6 Infinite is the only one that has that. I read that you like ecosystems so you will LOVE this unique feature.
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keenart posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 11:09 PM
64 bit versus 32 bit, for the heavy stuff.
impish posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 7:31 AM
Well I made the choice back with Vue 5 but my reasons are still pretty much the same:
I'd now add SkinVue (which needs Python to work) to that list.