Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: My new passion ... lookalike morphs

DCArt opened this issue on Mar 26, 2007 · 177 posts


DCArt posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 4:21 PM

I recently took my gallery down to start all over again. Reason being, because I've barely posted anything in the last couple of years, and I have learned so much during that time so I didn't feel that my gallery was representative of the art I can do now.

Anyway, there are a couple of new images in my gallery that reflect my new artistic passion. One of the reasons I have been working on a Scarlett Johansson morph is because I wanted to artistically reproduce the picture of her in the role she played in "Girl with a Pearl Earring".  Still looking for the right clothing, but in comparing the two pictures side by side (her actual photo is faded in the background of this image), I can see that I need to narrow her chin a bit, and add a little more roundness to the tip of her nose. And maybe lower her mouth just a tad.

But, it's getting there!  I have lots of other ideas for movie or TV celebrities, but I'm posting this for 2 reasons. (1) For feedback on how to improve the morph, and for clothing suggestions for the goal image

If you have any other ideas for female movies or TV characters that I can have some fun with, let me know.  I'm having a ball with this theme!



DCArt posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 4:23 PM

Oops, picture didn't take. Let's try this again LOL



Khai posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 4:25 PM

David Tennant
Christopher Eccleston
Paul McGann
Slyvester McCoy
Colin Baker
Peter Davidson
Tom Baker
Jon Pertwee
Patrick Troughton
Willam Hartnell

John Barrowman
Elizabeth Sladen

*is forceably dragged from the keyboard for only posting 1 female... **


DCArt posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 4:26 PM

LOL Do I see a theme going on there, Khai? LMAO



Anasta posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 4:41 PM

I would love to see maybe Sandra Bullock or Reese Witherspoon or Lisa Kudrow or Minnie Driver.... or you could do Eddie Izzard in full makeup! (hehe been watching The Riches and he looks funny as a man) Just a few here :P LOL


Casette posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 5:03 PM

WOW !!!


CASETTE
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"Poser isn't a SOFTWARE... it's a RELIGION!"


DCArt posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 5:03 PM

Sandra Bullock in the funny bell-ringing outfit from "Miss Congeniality" would be fun. LMAO

Reese Witherspoon from "Legally Blonde"

Lisa Kudrow and Mia Sorvino from "Romy and Michele's High School Reunion" LOL!!! Complete with Madonna-like clothes.

Minnie Driver ... haven't seen The Riches yet. I'll have to check into it.



Carioca posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 5:24 PM

I request the following actresses:

Autumn Reeser
Genevieve Cortese
Kristen Kreuk
Maggie Grace
Maggie Lawson
Margarita Levieva
Mischa Barton

And the following models:

Adriana Lima
Karolina Kurkova

And the following footballers:

Pelé
Romário
Zico
Maradona


scott8539 posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 5:27 PM

here is some of the ones i made.alyssa milano,elvira,arnold,j fonda.

fygomatic posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 5:59 PM

 Hi Deecey, welcome to the club! Your Scarlett looks awesome. I think the nose could be improved though. The real Scarlett has a very knobby nose. In front or 3/4th views of her face, her nose juts out when it reaches the ball of her nose. Also, you might try a darker lip color to make the lips stand out a bit more.

Carioca: My latest pic in my gallery is loosely based on Adriana Lima and I have a Karolina Kurkova in the works.

scott8539: Great work, I particularly like the Arnold :-)


DCArt posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 6:01 PM

I'm honored and humbled by the comments from the great fygomatic. I am totally in love with your Jessica Alba morph. LOL



PapaBlueMarlin posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 6:17 PM

**Women:                                                              **
Nellie Furtado                                                       
Jodie Foster                                                          
Bridget Fonda                                                       
Michelle Pfeiffer                                                    
Demi Moore                                                          
Nicole Kidman                                                     
Jolene Blalock                                                      
Liv Tyler                                                                  
Halle Berry
Christina Ricci
Jessica Alba
Joely Richardson
Kelly Carlson
   
Men:
Richard Burgi
Dylan Walsh
Julian McMahon
Clive Owen
Bruce Willis
Ewan McGregor
Chuck Liddell
Justin Timberlake



Carioca posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 6:19 PM

fygomatic, I checked. Fantastic work.


DCArt posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 6:20 PM

PBM, have a few of those women in the works already! LOL We have the same tastes.

On the men side, I might give them a try with Vittorio, since he uses the same head as V4. I've also thought of George Clooney, Denzel Washington, David Duchovny, and ... damn, I can't find a decent photo of Alan Alda where he doesn't have his mouth open! LMAO



ThrommArcadia posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 6:34 PM

I'm always in awe of good look-a-likes.  For some reason I just don't have the eye or the patience to master the art form myself.  Anyway, keep up the great work, I can't wait to see more.


fygomatic posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 6:34 PM

Thanks Deecey :blushing:, thanks Carioca!


Khai posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 6:38 PM

...the Master
Davros
Yeti
K9
Dalek
Ice Warrior

is dragged off again


Redfern posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 7:15 PM

Quote - David Tennant
Christopher Eccleston
Paul McGann
Slyvester McCoy
Colin Baker
Peter Davidson
Tom Baker
Jon Pertwee
Patrick Troughton
Willam Hartnell

John Barrowman
Elizabeth Sladen

*is forceably dragged from the keyboard for only posting 1 female... **

Khai, you already know about this one, but since you brought up the subject, here's my spin on Tom Baker.

Two substantial issues, however.  One, I'd love to share the face pose (.FC2), but it would only be useful to owners of "Brom for Michael 3" by Beth Capsces.  Two, he looks decent closed lipped, but I've yet to recreate that insane grin of Tom's.

Still, I thought I'd show my meager attempts.

Sincerely,

Bill

Tempt the Hand of Fate and it'll give you the "finger"!


DCArt posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 7:17 PM

Two, he looks decent closed lipped, but I've yet to recreate that insane grin of Tom's.

That's the toughest part of these lookalike morphs. In order to work out all of the expressions correctly, there would have to be dozens of custom morphs to anticipate them all. Which is why you see them mostly with neutral expressions. 8-)



Kalypso posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 7:17 PM Site Admin

Let me just add to the list :)

Rufus Sewell
Gerard Butler
Vincent D'Onofrio

Salma Hayek
Audrey Hepburn
Ingrid Bergman

I'd also really like to know more details about Face Gen.  Can the morphs you and fygomatic have been making be distributed?  Are you planning on doing any tutorials for this program?

Thanks!


fygomatic posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 7:45 PM

  I actually create my morphs in lightwave using the V3 head, but i'm curious about facegen too. I was under the impression that it only worked on the low poly facegen mesh, how does this customizer work?


DCArt posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 8:05 PM

LOL VERY long drawn-out process.

The customizer allows you to take any head, neck, and eye geometry and turn it into a set of files that are compatible with FaceGen Modeler.

However, the conversion process is not for the faint of heart. It's tedious and time consuming.

BASIC steps, in order to create a version of a head that works with existing morphs is as follows:

PART 1 -- CHANGE THE UVs of the Head and Neck

(1) Remap head so that no UVs overlap, and assign to a SINGLE material name. This means rearranging all head polygons on a single texture map (instead of multiples as they are now), and the multiple material names will go away as well.  In the case of V4, there are some head parts on the torso body map as well.

(2) You shouldn't have to change the UVs on the neck.

(3) Change the UVs of the left and right eye so that their layouts do not overlap, and assign left eye one material and right eye one material.

PART 2 - MORPH THE HEAD AND NECK TO CONFORM TO THE GUIDE HEAD

Customizer comes with a guide head that it compares your head to as the starting shape. It's HUGE in comparison to Poser figures, and it's also laying down on the floor. You have to rotate and scale the head to place it in the same approximate size and scale of the Poser head. THEN you have to morph the Poser figure's head to match as closely as possible to this head shape. It's important to match it as closely as possible, otherwise your results won't be real accurate for morph or texture results.

Now, the hard part is, the neckline is very much different than those we have in Poser figures. What I've been doing is using the figure's built-in morphs to get feature placement as close as possible, and then completing the morph in an external program. A LOT OF CARE has to be taken to make sure that the vertex order doesn't change in this process. Otherwise, you lose the ability to use the heads as a morph target later on.

PART 3 - Import all parts into the Customizer and follow the wizard. The steps in the Customizer are pretty self-explanatory.  Well sort of. To explain them at this point won't make a lot of sense, but if you have the Customizer and want some input I'll be glad to share

A BIG CAVEAT, though.  The only downside to this is that it takes 10-20 hours to generate the cache data that relates YOUR head to the base head. It takes about 8 hours or so on a Dell XPS Dual Core 2 processor, your mileage may vary. And, if you learn after the entire process is finished that your faces don't line up properly or create good character morphs, guess what? You repeat the process all over again.

UPSIDE ... Once you complete the process, you have a head that you can use in FaceGen Modeler, to create an infinite amount of characters with. AND, if you are fortunate enough to do it without breaking the vertex order, you can use the original figure morphs in combination with the FaceGen morphs to create a figure. FaceGen gets the basic head and neck shape, and you can tweak with original figure morphs.

Now that I've totally bored everyone ... LMAO

I will stress, though, that the process of making a model FaceGen compatible is not for the weak at heart. If you are anal about UVs and vertex orders and waiting endless hours to see if things are working right, go for it!



DCArt posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 8:18 PM

As another thought, Fygomatic, I recall you mentioning that you use LightWave. That's what I used to tweak the geometry. Exported each individual body part (head, neck, lEye, and rEye) separately from Poser. Loaded each part into its own layer. Then selected the head and neck layer together to work on the morphs while keeping the UV data intact.



Acadia posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 9:07 PM

Aishwarya Rai

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/12/29/60minutes/main663862.shtml

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



masha posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 9:08 PM

What  fun Deecey  I used to have a passion for painting portraits in real media now it's switched to cg ones as well as photo manipulation.    Haven't yet had a go with Poser 7 face gen oddly enough.

Here's a mag foto of Scarlett [ the more references the better. right?]  though it's a different angle to yours the shape of face and nose is quite distinct so it might be useful.

Love the facework on your Cleopatra/Liz Taylor.  This one will no doubt end up as good. :)



DCArt posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 9:11 PM

Interesting. Her nose looks quite different from straight on than it does sideways. Unless she's had a bit of work done since she did the Pearl Earring movie. ;-)

That's another thing that makes celebrity morphs challenging ... sometimes there are no profile shots, just head-on and 3/4 views. Be nice to find a 3D SK type site for celebrities! LOL



fygomatic posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 10:20 PM

  I can remember people's ill-fated attempts to weld the low poly facegen head onto the V3 body, so painful as the customizer process sounds, it sounds like a huge step forward.  Using it in conjunction with lightwave is good too. I suspect there's certain details that customizer or the facegen dials won't be able to capture and you'll have to use lightwave's magnet tool.   Here's a Scarlett profile by the way, I was going to do a version of her a while back.

DCArt posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 10:32 PM

Oooh, thanks!!!  That will come to good use! I looked all over for one of those! LOL

If you get the Customizer let me know ... I have LOTS of notes I can share.



Pixara posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 11:14 PM

Bravo!  Deecey, fygomatic and scott8539!   Your works are awesome!

I'd like to see Brad Pitt  morphs, of course!

Also, Male celebs:
Eric Bana, 
Hugh Jackman, 
Julian McMahon (the three Aussies were all born in 1968), 
Brad Johnson
Gerald Butler
Clive Owen
Joe Lando
Jason Patric
Michael Pare
Jeremy Northam
Michael Dorn
Martin Scorsese

Female celebs:  
Rachel Weisz 
Liv Tyler 
Jennifer Rubin
Sherilyn Fenn                                                                 
Halle Berry
Gwyneth Paltrow
Natalie Portman 
Keira Knightley

 


DCArt posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 11:17 PM

I just had a thought. Vittorio would take V4's head morphs just fine ... and I've already learned she makes a great David Duchovny! LMAO

Michael Pare ... WOW, haven't seen him for a while. Love the Eddie and the Cruisers movie!



Miss Nancy posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 11:24 PM

o.k., I see ya got hugh jackman covered. say no more :lol:



DCArt posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 11:30 PM

I'd also really like to know more details about Face Gen.  Can the morphs you and fygomatic have been making be distributed?  Are you planning on doing any tutorials for this program?

I missed this question ...

I'm not sure, quite exactly. I think the FaceGen folks will allow distribution of a single morph if it's part of a major pack like a character texture, clothing, etc. But for something more than that there might be licensing fees involved. I have to check with them again on that though. But the other issue is how sticky the celebrity morph issue is. There might be legal matters surrounding the distribution of a celebrity likeness and how it is used. And then, it also depends on the celebrity.

So, for the time being until I hear otherwise, this is mostly for my own enjoyment.  I will check into it more though!

As for tutorials ... if there is enough demand for them (there aren't a lot of FaceGen users that I know of), I'll add them to my (rapidly growing according to this thread) to do list! LOL



DCArt posted Mon, 26 March 2007 at 11:58 PM

Here's some real fun for you. Here are some V4 heads after they have gone through the PhotoFit process in FaceGen. The eye area looks funny because the lashes aren't transparent ... and of course, the raw FaceGen textures are later blended into the "real" figure's base texture and enhanced afterward.

But ... can you guess who they are? Some are better than others because I had better pictures.

And, try as I may, I really did look for an Alan Alda photo! LOL



Xena posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 12:37 AM

dunno, George Clooney, Elvis, David Duchovney, Catherine Zeta Jones, dunno, Liv Tyler.
:)


DCArt posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 12:40 AM

The two "dunnos" are because there were few good straight-on photos with mouths closed. The first "dunno" is Gillian Anderson (I SO want to do a "Truth is Out There" render with her, David, and a grey alien! LOL). The second "dunno" is Bette Davis.

Good that they are all recognizeable, though!  I'm going to dig around for some photos of others mentioned here when I have the chance. I'm on a mission!



Xena posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 12:46 AM

Now that you've told me who they are I can see the resemblance :)


leather-guy posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 1:00 AM

Still taking suggestions?
British actress Jemima Rooper
The cast of Friends
The cast of 70's show
Nikki Cox
Patricia Richardson
Bogart
Debi Mazar
Jeri Ryan
Emma Watson
Mickey Rooney
Judy Garland
Naomi Watts
Alyson Hannigan

(This is fun - ya get a kind of rhythm & want to keep on going g)


leather-guy posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 1:04 AM

Ooo - just saw the  faces;
My guesses;
Gillian anderson
George Clooney
Elvis
David Duchovney
Catherine Zeta Jones
Bette Davis
Liv Tyler

Some good stuff, there!


AntoniaTiger posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 1:28 AM

Humphrey Bogart Claude Rains Peter Lorre Conrad Veidt And, of course... Lauren Bacall Katherine Hepburn


vincebagna posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 2:21 AM

I made a try to make Lucy Liu, see the pic

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vincebagna posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 2:22 AM

And another one here. Could you make your own? She's so beautiful!

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fygomatic posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 5:52 AM

  Wow, those are just amazing. I recognized everyone right off, except for Gillian Anderson, but then I didn't watch many X-Files. I'm definitely jealous, it would take me a year to do that many likenesses in lightwave.
 
  vincebagna: Beautiful character, I'm not much of a Lucy Liu fan though, so I can't comment on the accuracy.

  Redfern: I somehow missed your post. Great job on Tom Baker, much better than my attempt :-).


Kalypso posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 7:19 AM Site Admin

These are just getting better and better!   I recognized all but Gillian too although I must say the men are extraordinarily real-looking!   The whole process is a bit too much for me I'm afraid but I really admire what you're doing.  

And since no one else but me is asking for him here's an image maybe to get you motivated ;)


gagnonrich posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 9:00 AM

Don't forget to use the frame capture feature of a lot of software DVD programs use to play DVDs on PCs. It's a lot easier to locate various angles of characters that are in motion than trying to find a celebrity photo.

My visual indexes of Poser content are at http://www.sharecg.com/pf/rgagnon


DCArt posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 9:15 AM

Ooooh Kalypso ... yeah nice!

And aren't the male faces fabulous? Hard to believe that is V4! LOL



cspear posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 9:18 AM

For UK members, here's what I'm working on.

Windows 10 x64 Pro - Intel Xeon E5450 @ 3.00GHz (x2)

PoserPro 11 - Units: Metres

Adobe CC 2017


DCArt posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 9:37 AM

Vince .. lovely job on Lucy Liu!  She's very striking.

CSpear, not sure who your figure is (not from the UK). But, given the White House photo in the background, and the chair she is sitting on, I suspect she is a news anchor. 8-)



Redfern posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 10:29 AM

Quote - Redfern: I somehow missed your post. Great job on Tom Baker, much better than my attempt :-).

 

Thanks!  I suspect, however, if you could have devoted the time, your efforts would have been positively uncanny and left my attempts coughing in the dust.  I've gotten about as far as I can by morph dials alone without magnets.  (But I royally suck at those!)  And as DeeCey pointed out, expression dials alone with the desired face pose often do not obtain the look desired for other emotional states.  They almost have to be reworked from the defaults upward.

Of course, the hair, scarf and roundeled wall serve as blatant clues as to whom this should resemble.  The best "proof of concept" would have someone able to guess the face from a "clay hued" render without textures, hair or themed clothing.

Sincerely,

Bill

Tempt the Hand of Fate and it'll give you the "finger"!


DCArt posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 10:31 AM

The best "proof of concept" would have someone able to guess the face from a "clay hued" render without textures, hair or themed clothing. <<

And that brings up another point. None of the morphs that I have done would look like the person without textures. It's the combination of the two that has made it work.

Lordy, I couldn't imagine doing a clay render that accurate! LMAO



Mogwa posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 11:54 AM

Some very nice work posted here. This would make for an enjoyable sticky thread. As for requests, how about Kathy Griffin? Preferably nekkid and exhibting her facial features before the latest plastic surgery modifications had a meltdown. Otherwise, she'd look like a carp whose head was run over by red hot sod roller. Eeeep.


DCArt posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 12:06 PM

The only thing I advise for people who are considering getting FaceGen Customizer and Modeler for their own use is to confirm ahead of time with Singular Inversions (the makers of FaceGen) what is OK and what is NOT OK to distribute. If you look at their site, they do have licensing fees to distribute certain things. Best to clarify things directly up front before you invest the money (it's a considerable investment) and time (which can be a precious commodity for a lot of us) into doing this and then find out you can't sell a character that was made with FaceGen.

Which is why, for the most part, I'm doing it for fun and enjoyment. I wanted to get this software for a long time, but couldn't afford it. After coming into some spare change in the last year, it was on the top of the list and I've been having a lot of fun with it. 8-)



pakled posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 9:52 PM

let's see
Rachael (sp?) Ward (heroine in 'Dead Men don't wear plaid')
Diana Rigg (Emma Peel)
Carolyn Jones (Morticia on the Addams family)

that's all I can think of..;)

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


Mogwa posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 10:17 PM

Are there any alternatives to FaceGen modeler? After visiting Singular's web site, it appears rather expensive for what seems to be a slight improvement over Poser's face room.


DCArt posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 10:25 PM

I seem to recall other threads on the Rendo forum where folks talked about something similar. But it might have been something that was under development or something. I can't remember which posts they appeared in. As far as I know, FaceGen is probably the most known one, but others might pop in if they are aware of something else.



SaintFox posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 10:39 PM

I'm amazed! What a fun to read and see this while passing time waiting for some renders to finish!!

Do you still need ideas?
First: A big YES for Rufus Sewell!!
My ideas for some challenging faces (maybe you like musicians, too)
Men: James Hetfield (metallica), Brian Molko (Placebo) - very different types of faces.

Women (some interesting french faces): Isabelle Adjani, Fanny Ardant, Isabelle Huppert

they're all in their 50s now - so you may want to look for older photos - although they still look beautieful and of course more "typefull" now.

I'm not always right, but my mistakes are more interesting!

And I am not strange, I am Limited Edition!

Are you ready for Antonia? Get her textures here:



The Home Of The Living Dolls


ClawShrimp posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 10:50 PM

There's a program out there by n-sided called Quidam.

I can't personally vouch for it, but FPS has certainly done some wonderful work with it.

Here's a recent pic from FPS's gallery:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1410860

And here's his very basic tutorial on how to use it in conjunction with Poser:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/tutorial/index.php?tutorial_id=1614

If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards...checkmate!


DCArt posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 11:07 PM

That's the one I was thinking of ClawShrimp! Thanks.



ClawShrimp posted Tue, 27 March 2007 at 11:52 PM

I'll download the free trial tonight and have a tinker.

It's hard to tell just how useful Quidam will be to the average Joe as FPS couples his morphs with textures of a standard that most people don't access to (i.e. INCREDIBLE).

I won't really be able to spare much time to really put it through its paces though. It'll be hard tearing myself away from Apollo morphs!

If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards...checkmate!


Methastopholis posted Wed, 28 March 2007 at 12:48 AM

Just one special request from me :)   JERRY GARCIA     :)


sebastel posted Wed, 28 March 2007 at 12:55 PM

very interesting.
my skills are not good enough to take part of this, still i got some ideas what models to try to model ...

i think it is perfectly easy to understand that most names mentioned so far are "celebrities" of recent times, coming from american showbiz.

now, what about those idols of the past, or different origin?

just to name a few:

marcello mastroianni
kirk douglas
frank sinatra
marlon brando
james dean
humphrey bogart
yul brynner
gregory peck
chow yun fat
tony leung
johnny weissmuller
john wayne
alain delon
boris karloff
spencer tracy

greta garbo
gina lollobrigida
sophia loren
audrey hepburn
katherine hepburn
lauren bacall
catherine deneuve
fay wray
faye wong
gong li
akiko wakabayashi
maureen o'sullivan

em, i think you got the idea ...
maybe it is just because i am getting old and miss some of the "old times" - but this should be a rich source of inspiration for you all.

:-)

cheers
sebastel


pakled posted Wed, 28 March 2007 at 8:30 PM

I am shocked, SHOCKED that no one has asked for Alan Alda...;) just think of all the 'guess who' threads we could slay with that..;)

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


DCArt posted Wed, 28 March 2007 at 8:35 PM

Been looking for a good photo of him ... if you find one straight on with his mouth closed I'll do it! LMAO



DCArt posted Wed, 28 March 2007 at 8:54 PM

This is the best I can do so far ..... LMAO



fygomatic posted Wed, 28 March 2007 at 9:35 PM

  Not quite Alan yet, but if you stuck a helmet on him and dangled a cigarette from his lips, he'd look perfect in a 40's war movie :-)


DCArt posted Wed, 28 March 2007 at 9:38 PM

It was a bad scan of a TV guide cover that it came from. The problem with Alan Alda is that he always has a really wide smile in all of his photos. Makes it tough to get an accurate closed mouth morph!



majesticartist posted Wed, 28 March 2007 at 10:05 PM

I would love to see some Charmed Ones!!!!


DCArt posted Wed, 28 March 2007 at 10:05 PM

My hubby likes them too. 8-)



leather-guy posted Thu, 29 March 2007 at 12:48 AM

"And that brings up another point. None of the morphs that I have done would look like the person without textures. It's the combination of the two that has made it work. Lordy, I couldn't imagine doing a clay render that accurate! LMAO"

Well, I have a small collection of celebrity life masks, and I'm often struck by how generic even a famous face can look without the coloration of the original donor.  Older faces, generally seem to carry the resemblance best.
As an example, here's Gina Davis from about the time she did Beetlejuice.


mathman posted Thu, 29 March 2007 at 4:15 AM

Any fans of professional wrestling on WWE ? How about the WWE Divas ? :

Melina
Trish Stratus
Mickey James
Victoria
Sable
Ivory
Ashley
... and of course
The Fabulous Moolah


-BrandyE- posted Thu, 29 March 2007 at 10:41 AM

I would love to see...

Males

David Boreanaz
James Marsters
Brad Pitt (been done...but he is so pretty...another go is always welcome)
Liam Neeson
Ewan Macgregor
Colin Farrel
Alexis Denisof

Females

Salma Hayek
Allyson Hannigan
Kate Winslet

Brandy




rowlando posted Thu, 29 March 2007 at 9:47 PM

Would love to see and purchase these morphs

Catherine Zeta Jones

Salma Hayek

All great work thanks for the thred

Rowlando

Seek what you can never loose


3DVim posted Fri, 30 March 2007 at 12:26 PM

Very interesting thread and full of excellent works here!

I'd like to see Christopher Reeve morphs -- let the quintessential Superman live on.

Also,

**Males:
**Ernesto Che Guevara
Bruce Lee
Curt Cobain
James Dean
John F. Kennedy Jr.
Gary Cooper

**Females: 
**Natalie Wood
Grace Kelly
Ingrid Bergman
Marilyn Monroe (Daz3D seems to have one of her lookalike morphs already)
Princess Dianna
Aaliyah

celeb morphs 1

celeb morphs 2


HeRe posted Fri, 30 March 2007 at 2:26 PM

Mother Theresa??


Jochen38 posted Fri, 30 March 2007 at 3:01 PM

Quote - I made a try to make Lucy Liu, see the pic

That´s my attempt, done with a V4 but completely without makeup.


scott8539 posted Fri, 30 March 2007 at 3:57 PM

i would also like to see bruce lee sonny chiba sandra bullock sigourney weaver eddy murphy jet lee robert patrick that alan alda looks good.just need to thin his face out.


panko posted Fri, 13 April 2007 at 8:33 AM

Attached Link: http://www.doctormacro.com/index.html

Deecey, you might like to take a look at the above link. I found it by accident while doing some research work. Lots of high quality movie stars photos there.... :)

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DCArt posted Fri, 13 April 2007 at 8:46 AM

OH YES, I stumbled upon that too!!! And I also got some photo colorizing photos for black and white pics.

8-)



giorgio_2004 posted Fri, 13 April 2007 at 9:38 AM

I am in love with the Jessica Alba morph by fygomatic. Too bad he does not want to sell it! 
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DCArt posted Fri, 13 April 2007 at 9:40 AM

I agree ... that morph is phenomenal (he's my lookalike idol! LOL). He did that all himself, nothing automatic about that.

THAT is what I would love to aspire to!



giorgio_2004 posted Fri, 13 April 2007 at 9:54 AM

And it is not his only creation....

Although he defines it still a "work in progress"  (  :laugh:  ) and he has uploaded only one image with it, he has created a morph of The Most Beautiful Woman Of All Times (in my opinion, but not only in mine): Audrey Hepburn.

Check the pic....  http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1359110

Absolutely amazing.

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panko posted Fri, 13 April 2007 at 10:10 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1391749&member

He also made a wonderful Sophia Loren (WIP he says...:), in my opinion one of the most beautiful non-anorexic women of all times.............😉

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Kalypso posted Fri, 13 April 2007 at 12:09 PM Site Admin

I also really like his Salma Hayek morph too :)  Ah well, I guess it's best he doesn't want to sell/give them.   Can you imagine the whole gallery full of them? 😄


Barrelhaus posted Fri, 13 April 2007 at 8:16 PM

Ginger and Maryanne
Jennifer and Bailey

Better still, Maryanne and Bailey!

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mathman posted Sat, 14 April 2007 at 9:44 AM

Attached Link: http://cecile.defrance.online.fr/

What about the androgynous French beauty Cecile de France ....

fygomatic posted Sat, 14 April 2007 at 11:13 AM

  Hey! I like the direction this thread took :-) Thanks everybody!
  That audrey hepburn character is still in the really early stages. I pretty much like the morph but i'm going to completely redo the texture.
   My salma hayek character is in limbo. I think I actually made it worse with my last revision I posted, so i've been too bummed to work on it :-)


mathman posted Sat, 14 April 2007 at 9:36 PM

Attached Link: http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0208426/

fygomatic, as I have just referred to, I am a huge fan of Cecile de France .... any chance of you doing a character for her ? ...

She's not all that well-known in the English-speaking world. Her filmography is attached. She's probably best known from films such as Haute Tension, Russian Dolls and The Spanish Apartment.


fygomatic posted Sun, 15 April 2007 at 12:13 AM

  mathman, I hadn't heard of her before, she's got a very unique look. It's better though if I'm really familiar with the subject before I start a character.
  Speaking of French language films, I plan on doing a Virginie Ledoyen or Laetitia Casta eventually.


RorrKonn posted Sun, 15 April 2007 at 12:33 AM

You know for as long as Poser has been around I am surprised that you can't find just about any kind of star or any one 1/2 way famous.

Think the only Star I've seen was a Britney Spears at DAZ.

 

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madmaxh posted Sun, 15 April 2007 at 5:37 PM

Some fantastic lookalikes on this thread.

For my two cents, I'd like to see these great character faces:

Chris Walken
George Orwell
Audrey Hepburn
Yosef Stalin
Vincent Price
Robert DeNiro
Bruce Lee
Greta Garbo
Jayne Mansfield
Yul Brynner
Groucho Marx
Pablo Picasso


madmaxh posted Sun, 15 April 2007 at 5:44 PM

Wow! Just saw Fygomatic's Audrey Hepburn. Got that one covered!


kristinf posted Mon, 16 April 2007 at 1:19 PM

Quote - But ... can you guess who they are?

Oh they are wonderful! George, Elvis, Clooney, Zeta-Jone and Betty Davis... :)

I am a HUGE Fygomatic fan, his Jessica Alba, Sophia and Salma are just gorgeous!  I wish I could persuade him to do a Jude Law, Johnny Depp and a Deborah Harry :D

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scott8539 posted Mon, 16 April 2007 at 3:56 PM

i just started a christopher walken.he's cool.

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**Dayam!  I do not even recognize half of the names of "celebrities" that people are posting.  

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LostinSpaceman posted Fri, 27 April 2007 at 6:05 PM

Is there a Look Alikes FC2 area in Freestuff with any of these neat look alikes?


CeeBee84 posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 3:18 AM

Here's one of mine.
I use Facegen with the native mesh then cut its silly thick neck off and integrate fairly crudely with V3 or V4.
The FG mesh is OK but the 500x500 pixel textures are a big limitation, hence no close-ups.


CeeBee84 posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 3:25 AM

Oops file was too big.

Here it is at Imageshack

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/569/jennifer3xu1.jpg


CeeBee84 posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 3:30 AM

...and I think there was a Dr Who fan in the thread a while back
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/7779/peri1cu8.jpg
http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/4866/bl1ja9.jpg


mylemonblue posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 3:39 AM

It would be great to have a Alan Alda just because. :D Then for a Sandra Bullock(from her earlier pictures) because she's one of the coolest funnest actresses. :) (^_^) :DDD

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panko posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 9:39 AM

Wouldn't that be great if someone figures out how to work out a rather easy and not incredibly time consuming method to enhance the FG mesh and then use it with millennium figures in Poser. I'd pay for a tutorial like that and I presume many people also will.... :)
UVDan... you are not alone in this (not to recognize that is any of the current celebrities). Trouble with me is that most of themodern day screen and stage "celebrities" look so much alike that I marvel how people could tell who is who. In the good old times it would have taken some effort to confuse, say Ava Gardner with Marilyn, Joan Crawford with Rita Hayworth or Marlon Brando with Stewart Granger............😕

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DCArt posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 9:51 AM

Wouldn't that be great if someone figures out how to work out a rather easy and not incredibly time consuming method to enhance the FG mesh and then use it with millennium figures in Poser. I'd pay for a tutorial like that and I presume many people also will.... :)

In order to get it to work properly, a custom neck prop would have to be created so that it blends properly from the FaceGen head to the millenium figure. And that would also mean that multiple neck replacements would be needed (one for each figure you want to use). 

Aside from that, the geometry in the default FaceGen head isn't as detailed as in the millenium figures. No nostrils (they are flattened), and the mouth and eyes aren't poseable. That probably explains why most images that use the FaceGen head are usually from straight on, and have similar expressions.



UVDan posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 10:11 AM Forum Moderator

Has anyone tried FaceShop Pro?

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scott8539 posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 11:00 AM

thanks uvdan,just picked it up for 40.00.


UVDan posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 11:55 AM Forum Moderator

You're welcome.  Please post back with how it works for you.

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LostinSpaceman posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 12:33 PM

Oooo Mee Tooo! FaceShop Pro for Half off and you can import any Poser figure's head and export the new faces as Morph Target's! No Frankensteining needed!


panko posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 12:49 PM

Me Three!....👍

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UVDan posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 12:55 PM Forum Moderator

Dayam!  I should get a commission for posting that.:laugh:

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LostinSpaceman posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 1:50 PM

Actually you might get a slapping! I shouldn't have jumped so quick before reading the thread over at DAZ entailing all the crash issues with this software!


UVDan posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 3:58 PM Forum Moderator

Can you post a link to that discussion so everybody can find it quickly?

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LadyElf posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 4:31 PM Online Now!

Fygomatic, I am totally in LOVE with your Sophia Loren morph, that one is spot on :))

As a HUGE fan of Audrey Hepburn, I will anxiously await your final results on her once your talented fingers are finished with her :)


LostinSpaceman posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 7:52 PM

Here's the link:

http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=57583

Read it before you buy!


CeeBee84 posted Sun, 29 April 2007 at 2:24 AM

Even with FaceGen some faces just don't "take" with the photofit process.  Fortunately Lynda Carter was one that did and so this is probably my most successful effort to date.

See more here
[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/3D_Celebrities_2/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/3d_celebrities/](http://groups.yahoo.com/group/3D_Celebrities_2/)


CeeBee84 posted Sun, 29 April 2007 at 2:31 AM

Darn it, what's the file size limit here? Trying again

panko posted Sun, 29 April 2007 at 6:57 PM

OK.... I've been fiddling with FaceShop Pro since yesterday, having dropped everything else (for the benefit of Science.... lol). Amazingly enough I experienced only one crash in many hours of work! The results of my investigation... hmmm.... The program is very basic at this stage, but promising. Nowhere near the sophistication and options offered by Face Gen, however it has the advantage (over the latter) that it can create face morphs to be used in Poser with any of the Poser figures, including the millennium ones without having recourse to surgical operations and without having to spend days to get something usable. Question is... could the outcome be usable? Frankly, I don't know.... Here is an attempt on the head (hehehehe) of "the perfect male specimen", the Great Errol Flynn. First render on the left was done by applying the morph at a strength of 0.600, as the manual suggested and using the texture that FaceShop produced (which has nothing to do with the one you see on the window of your program at the end of the operation). The flaws are obvious, but the likeness achieved is stunning. Second render is the same as the first plus Agent Hair by 3Dream --even more realistic! And now the anti-climax.... The M3 head untextured, only with the morph applied. Likeness is gone! Which means perhaps that more than the morphs the texture is paramount if one is striving to achieve a good result. In my opinion the creators of this program should concentrate in finding a way to deliver usable textures. With this at hand and a good morphing basis --plus some dial fiddling-- FS could become a valuable tool. Let's hope we'll see some movement in this area soon... :)

Panos

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panko posted Sun, 29 April 2007 at 6:59 PM

And here is the original photo I worked with (colorized in Photoshop).

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mickmca posted Mon, 30 April 2007 at 7:47 AM

Quote - ... more than the morphs the texture is paramount
Panos

Back in the Dark Ages of Poser, I remember seeing photos of celebrities mapped onto properly proportioned eggs. The result was recognizable. It seems to me that one reason celebrity morphs "work" is that for most of us, the celebrity's face is a carefully marketed commodity. In other words, it lacks the free form that real faces have. Hence the "unrecognizable" quality in papparazzi photos. We'd know Sandra Bullock's face if it was projected on a bust of Julius Caesar.

My first experience with the Face Room also confirmed your observation. I started from perfectly suitable photos of my less-than-stellar mug, and after hours of spinning, pulling, and tweaking, the resulting morph bore no more resemblance to my "mesh" than it did to Don's. Specifically, there was no way to match my mouth/chin/neck ratios (as I think P7 calls it), no way to achieve the "craggy" cheeks (high cheekbones, thin cheeks), and nothing that comes close to my Eli Wallach nose. But sure enough, the smeared, distorted texture looked just like me... since it was.

I would love to see a tool that harvested texture from photographs, and I think that, not a mini-Canoma that builds 3D models, is the key to celebrity "morphs." My favorite celebrity, MM, is wonderfully represented by Gwendolyn's "Star" (I hope I got that right). She got the Milton Greene marazipan skin perfect, and it's one of my favorite V3 items. But the bones are not quite right, and it still comes across as an impersonator.

M3 works as a moviestar mesh because his base look is that bland, characterless "handsomeness" of the Calvin Klein boy toy all grown up and ready to sell insurance -- Ken to V3's vacuously affluent, potentially bovine Barbie. As soon as you start trying to match faces with character and personality (Joel Macrae, Gary Cooper, Claude Rains, Yul Brynner, Clark Gable, David Niven, Sean Connery), things get iffy.

M


DCArt posted Mon, 30 April 2007 at 7:58 AM

M3 works as a moviestar mesh because his base look is that bland, characterless "handsomeness" of the Calvin Klein boy toy all grown up and ready to sell insurance

A very colorful statement that is probably dead on! LOL   M3 does have an androgynous look to him that does make him a good start to the Hollywood or model ideal of today.

But then again, I've also seen in FaceGen that the V4 face geometry (not quite as dense as the M3 figure's face) can also make a convincing male character, and I suspect the same would be true with this FaceShop software.  It might be interesting to use her face in conjunction with Vittorio's body morphs to see what comes of it.

Base textures can also be further enhanced with displacement maps to achieve the cragginess ... but there aren't any "make art" type buttons for that kind of work. 8-)



panko posted Mon, 30 April 2007 at 10:13 AM

> Quote - >>>... but there aren't any "make art" type buttons for that kind of work. 8-)

hehehe... Don't we all know that!!!!..........
However with a 1024x1024 messy texture like the one shown here, which is what FS produces, there isn't much chance to "make art"....

Panos

"That's another fine mess you got me in to!" -- Oliver Hardy


ClawShrimp posted Mon, 30 April 2007 at 7:01 PM

Not trying to hijack this thread, but thought I'd post this given the subject matter.

Anton (of Apollo fame) made a base morph available for others to tweak, the goal being to collect a bunch of close approximations and take the best from each. As such, this is still very much a work in progress.

Any guesses as to who this is supposed to be? For those that frequent the Apollo thread over at CP you'll be all too aware :).

If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards...checkmate!


UVDan posted Mon, 30 April 2007 at 7:53 PM Forum Moderator

Is it one of the BALDwin brothers?

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panko posted Mon, 30 April 2007 at 8:00 PM

Tommy Lee Jones?

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ClawShrimp posted Mon, 30 April 2007 at 8:09 PM

Not even close!

Which just goes to show how far from accurate we really are with this morph! HAHA :)

One more guess, and if it's wrong I'll put you all out of your misery.

If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards...checkmate!


leather-guy posted Mon, 30 April 2007 at 8:58 PM

Jack Black?


ClawShrimp posted Mon, 30 April 2007 at 9:01 PM

Haha...spot on!

Just kidding. It's not Jack Black, it's none other than Daniel Craig (AKA James Bond)...or at least it will be once completed.

If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards...checkmate!


UVDan posted Mon, 30 April 2007 at 9:23 PM Forum Moderator

Another celebrity that I have never heard of.  Why couldn't they keep Remington Steel as James Bond?

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ClawShrimp posted Mon, 30 April 2007 at 9:45 PM

You've never heard of Daniel Craig?! Don't tell me you haven't seen Casino Royal?!!! :)

If Leather_Guy and Panko similarly have no idea who this is I'll feel marginally less embarassed about the morph not being recognised. :P

If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards...checkmate!


UVDan posted Mon, 30 April 2007 at 9:52 PM Forum Moderator

Nope.  I don't go out to movies.  I might watch one that my Neice or Dad bring home from the library.  I find it hard to sit and watch movies, when I could be on the computer.

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leather-guy posted Mon, 30 April 2007 at 11:09 PM

Ummm - In all honesty, I have no familiarity with the actor, and couldn't have named him if he was standing in front of me.


ClawShrimp posted Mon, 30 April 2007 at 11:28 PM

Two out of three...my fragile ego is saved!

Regardless, any suggestions on how to improve the morph, as in to compare more favourably with the (apparently) largley unknown actor in the photographs, would be greatly appreciated. :)

If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards...checkmate!


ThrommArcadia posted Mon, 30 April 2007 at 11:32 PM

Damn, I came too late to the thread!

I recognized him as Daniel Craig.  It tooka  moment, but the brow was a dead give away.

On the other hand, I do have the Casino Royal DVD sitting right next to me, so maybe it wasn't coincedence.


CeeBee84 posted Tue, 01 May 2007 at 1:36 AM

3DVim requested this one a while back. FaceGen and V4.

DCArt posted Tue, 01 May 2007 at 1:39 AM

Nice!! One of my very favorite females of all time.



panko posted Tue, 01 May 2007 at 7:02 AM

Daniel Who.....???? Ah, yes... the nobody guy!.................:biggrin:
hehehehe.............

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UVDan posted Tue, 01 May 2007 at 8:17 AM Forum Moderator

Wow, that is a nice Princess Diana CeeBee84.

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spudgrl posted Tue, 01 May 2007 at 12:35 PM

I attempted a Madonna back in the day.  I gave up after awhile. I think the "music Girl" morph in the market place is the closeet Ive seen.  I would love to see a younger 80's madonna morph.  I would also love to see the old Charlies angels done. We got some of the new ones done by 3d celebrity.  it would be cool to see Farrah, Kate, Jacklyn, and Cheryl. 


UVDan posted Tue, 01 May 2007 at 3:09 PM Forum Moderator

You forgot Tanya.

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spudgrl posted Tue, 01 May 2007 at 8:06 PM

I was going for the orginal 4. :) Tanya and Shelly would be cool 2.


byAnton posted Wed, 02 May 2007 at 4:11 AM

Thromm,

We are just wrapping up Mr Bond and then we are back onto Bruce WIllis, already in progress. If anyone wants to join in, the thread is at cp.

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UVDan posted Wed, 02 May 2007 at 10:04 AM Forum Moderator

Now Bruce Willis.  There is somebody I remember.  I loved it when Webster would say to him "What chou talkin bout Willis?".

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byAnton posted Wed, 02 May 2007 at 10:06 AM

yeah I loved the Facts of Life. Webster was the big girl with the pigtails that shared a hut with Ginger right?

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UVDan posted Wed, 02 May 2007 at 11:30 AM Forum Moderator

:scared:Dayam! :scared:**  I don't even want to picture Webster as a girl.**:laugh:

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thewishmaster posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 6:31 AM

Attached Link: Ed Harris picture

**ClawShrimp**I'll say that if you look at the top of the face eyes nose bridge and forhead it looks wery much lik Ed Harris just some small changes to the shabe of the head and some small ones on the mouth and it's a winner :)

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LostinSpaceman posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 6:43 AM

Quote - yeah I loved the Facts of Life. Webster was the big girl with the pigtails that shared a hut with Ginger right?

 

Nah! You're thinking of the Dobbie Gillus Show! :tt2:


mickmca posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 7:57 AM

Claw--
It's Tommy Lee Jones, a little fleshy.
M


mickmca posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 8:01 AM

Craig-smeg, he's still a bit bulky.
M


Iuvenis_Scriptor posted Mon, 07 May 2007 at 1:24 PM

If they haven't already been added to your list, here's my wish list:

Christopher Reeve (M3 or Vittorio 4)
Hilary Duff (V4)
Zac Efron (M3 or Vittorio 4)
Vanessa Hudgens (V4)
Tom Welling (M3 or Vittorio 4)


Kalypso posted Mon, 07 May 2007 at 9:34 PM Site Admin

I would be forever grateful if someone can do Rufus Sewell.  I'd try myself but for the next month I'll be invigilating and taking part in examinations :(

Here's a piccy for those who are not familiar with him.


Ariah posted Sat, 12 May 2007 at 10:39 AM

Sorry, no Rufus Sewell unfortunatelly. Though I think I'll give him a try later. I have plans for a character like him in a future project.

I've been working on Jessica Biel look-alike. I think there's something there, though the texture does a lot of the trick...

Which is mainly the only thing I use the FaceShop (basic, nevertheless) -- for textures, which I later alter and brush-up in Photoshop. I'm pretty satisfied with the result...


Ariah posted Sat, 12 May 2007 at 10:40 AM

And one more pic of my poor Jess Biel try-out...

Ariah posted Sat, 12 May 2007 at 10:41 AM

And one another face -- I have to admit I have my own pet peeve about the guy. He's the only reason I watch Blade III...

Conniekat8 posted Sun, 20 May 2007 at 12:26 AM

Freddie Mercury !!!

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Ariah posted Sun, 20 May 2007 at 12:31 AM

:) Not necessarily, no...

Conniekat8 posted Sun, 20 May 2007 at 12:44 AM

oh, I'm sorry I meant, I'd love to see a Freddie Mercury lookalike morph :)

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thewishmaster posted Sun, 20 May 2007 at 1:48 AM

Ariah..Is it George Michael..?

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ClawShrimp posted Sun, 20 May 2007 at 7:59 AM

It's clearly Ryan Reynolds! Great work too!

He was in incredble shape in Blade III. My wife never gets tired of watching that movie for some reason ;).

Over at CP forums Anton and others are working on both Bruce Willis and Vin Diesel morphs for Apollo. They're coming along really well too!

If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards...checkmate!


Ariah posted Sun, 20 May 2007 at 8:01 AM

Yes, ClawShrimp -- you're absolutelly right!

And I understand your wife with all my heart ;)


Ariah posted Sun, 20 May 2007 at 3:03 PM

Oh, and I've started work on a ceratin 'Lost' girl...

Though there's still a lot of work to be done, certainly.


ClawShrimp posted Mon, 21 May 2007 at 12:45 AM

Looking good, and certainly recognisable as Evangeline Lilly...even ignoring your HUGE hint :).

Would love to see some profile and 3/4 shots of these heads too, and if possible some sans texture to see just how big a part the morph plays.

If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards...checkmate!


Ariah posted Mon, 21 May 2007 at 1:07 AM

For now I can give a 3/4 look, still with textures (as it comes from the stock of renders I did yesterday;) and I'm off to work.

Regarding morph sans textures -- for me, they don't look half as good, it's still a marriage of the two that gives likeness to the figure...

Though with the Apollo Project it's more the morph. 

I treat the FaceRoom morphs as a starting point, but I really appreciate what the application does with textures. A bit of work in Photoshop and a semi-resolution face texture is done.


ClawShrimp posted Mon, 21 May 2007 at 1:37 AM

Looking really good!

Sorry, to clarify...is this Poser's Face Room or the third party application Face Shop Pro?

If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards...checkmate!


urbanarmitage posted Mon, 21 May 2007 at 4:09 AM

The first impression that lept out at me was Ed Harris? :)

 


Ariah posted Mon, 21 May 2007 at 4:48 AM

I mis-spelled. The 3rd party application -- Face Shop. Though I use that for textures , mainly.


grichter posted Mon, 21 May 2007 at 8:18 AM

I have been following this thread and find the work here fascinating. Just thought I would make a passing comment. I did a test render late last night using the Razored Moffitt hair from Daz on a character I was messing around with on an older V3 texture set I own. Didn't turn out like I expected. But for this thread people might like to know, I took one look at my character after it rendered and yelled, Oh my Gawd, it's Bob Keeshen! Just needed a mustache and some bushy eyebrows and it would have been near perfect. You might have to be as old as dirt like me to appreciate the likeness. But if anybody on this thread wants to do Captain Kangeroo, that hair is close to perfect.

Gary

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egaeus posted Mon, 21 May 2007 at 9:22 AM

My attempt at an Angelina Jolie.  I'm not particularly fond of her, but I think her face is interesting.

Mike


bine posted Mon, 21 May 2007 at 12:46 PM

@ariah:

i love the series: lost very, very much.

wonderfull looking like kate.
congratulation.

bine


ClawShrimp posted Mon, 21 May 2007 at 7:06 PM

Your results with Face Shop are really impressive Ariah. I've had absolutley no luck with the program, but then I haven't really put in the effort.

For morphs I'd rather 'dial' them myself, and considering I mainly use Apollo this isn't a problem. But for textures it could provide a good starting point at least. They'd require a fair amount of Photoshop fixing, and the obligatory complex shader tree, because as it stands it's simply a photograph pasted onto a UV map, but it could work!

I'll have to give it another try.

If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards...checkmate!


mathman posted Mon, 21 May 2007 at 8:03 PM

egaeus, pretty good. My observation would be though that she looks a bit haggard - ie maybe Angelina Jolie in about 25 years time.


Mark@poser posted Thu, 24 May 2007 at 9:10 PM

I noticed the "Lost" girl, so I thought I would show my attempt. A humble tribute to a show I enjoy. I don't usually post pictures, so I hope it comes thru.

Thanks


Ariah posted Fri, 25 May 2007 at 1:55 PM

Nice work! Have you used FaceShop or in-build dials?


Ariah posted Fri, 25 May 2007 at 2:25 PM

I worked a bit on my Kate;)

The FaceShop morph was just a starting point, I mainly used V4's dials. The texture needs correction round the jaw-line, but I'm generally satisfied with theresult...


Mark@poser posted Fri, 25 May 2007 at 7:15 PM

Mine was V3 with all the face morphs I could get from Daz, and a few I made, with some magnets thrown in. I couldn't tell if I captured her well or not, so I walked away from her for awhile. Since the show ended for the year, I thought I'd post a shot. I'm still experimenting with V4, so your model looks far beyond my ability with her.

Thanks


Ariah posted Sun, 27 May 2007 at 4:03 AM

I actually really like what you did with V3. I once tried that, but failed -- I did a pretty face, but nothing much like Evangeline.

Actually, yesterday I lost all my Kate data. Poser corrupted the file, as I saved it with IBL lights (a bug, I guess). I had to recreate my Kate, and the pic I'm posting is a recreated version...

Though on this shot she really does look similar;)


Mark@poser posted Sun, 27 May 2007 at 7:48 AM

Oh yes, That looks quite good. Is that V3 or are you still using V4? I like the skin and hair. That looks like "Freckles" for sure. Is the skin and hair commercially available? The hair is quite nice.


Ariah posted Sun, 27 May 2007 at 8:17 AM

That's V4, the skin and hair comes from a texture map, created within FaceShop...

From the side she looks almost perfect, but 3/4 and en face lacks something -- I think the problem lies in the lips. 'Freckles' has very nice and unique lips ;), hard to recreate, but I'm not giving up.

The pic shows where the texture ends, and a regular V4 (Danae's Milan) begins....


CeeBee84 posted Sun, 27 May 2007 at 11:01 AM

Here's a Facegen version of Evangeline

AmbientShade posted Sun, 27 May 2007 at 1:02 PM

Where do you get this face shop program?

I've been wanting to do a morph of Sanaa Lathan for a while now, to use with V4, but I haven't had much luck dialing her morphs. I've gathered over 60 reference photos of her off the net, but it doesn't seem to matter since I can't get even reasonably close.

Sanaa Lathan, for those who aren't familiar with her, starred in Alien Vs Predator, and more recently played Michelle in Season 4 of Nip/Tuck. She was also Blade's mother in the first Blade movie, and has been in a handful of other films and tv shows.

Personally I think she's by far one of the most beautiful african-american women in hollywood. (I'm REALLY hoping she returns as Michelle on Nip/Tuck next season).



laslov posted Sun, 27 May 2007 at 1:46 PM

Quote - Where do you get this face shop program?

I've been wanting to do a morph of Sanaa Lathan for a while now, to use with V4, but I haven't had much luck dialing her morphs. I've gathered over 60 reference photos of her off the net, but it doesn't seem to matter since I can't get even reasonably close.

Sanaa Lathan, for those who aren't familiar with her, starred in Alien Vs Predator, and more recently played Michelle in Season 4 of Nip/Tuck. She was also Blade's mother in the first Blade movie, and has been in a handful of other films and tv shows.

Personally I think she's by far one of the most beautiful african-american women in hollywood. (I'm REALLY hoping she returns as Michelle on Nip/Tuck next season). 

YOU can buy FaceShop and FaceShop Pro at DAZ (http://www.daz3d.com/i.x/shop/itemdetails/-/?item=5259&cat=362) or soon here at Rendo.

Laslo****