Just tried the Vue6 infinite PLE. Using a dual Mac G5 2 gig, 4 gig ram. Rendering just a test with a water plane, one terrain (unaltered), non GI atmosphere, no vegetation at anything other then the lowest quality setting is so SLOOOOW compared to C4D 10 with sky, infinite plane with water texture (can't remember where I downloaded it) and a simple terrain mockup. I can't imagine how long it would take to render an animation in Vue6 Infinite on my machine. Is this typical, or is Vue6 not so time consuming on other machines (PC or MacIntel). PC users? Does Vue6 render satisfactorily in your opinion on a similarly spec'd windows machine? I know my 2-gig dual g5 is now far from the fastest machine around but I wouldn't call it slow either. I know xStream is not available for the Mac, but have any of you PC folks with C4D compared rendering from within C4D to Vue6 Natively? Is there a speed difference.