tebop opened this issue on May 09, 2007 · 45 posts
tebop posted Wed, 09 May 2007 at 9:26 PM
I use it for hobby. I know some people use poser in discovery channel or something to make small little HELPEr animations. But never seen anyone that uses it to make full fledge projects that pay. Does anyone in this forum have a Poser related job?? or is it just for your hobby?
Fazzel posted Wed, 09 May 2007 at 9:38 PM
Just a hobby.
Zarat posted Wed, 09 May 2007 at 9:46 PM
Hobby. The company had it (rather for recreational purposes) and I got it then too. Makes buying new stuff less cost intensive for stuff that can be used for work.
Without this benefit I doubt I would ever have bought Poser or add on content or at least the runtime would be very very small.
Acadia posted Wed, 09 May 2007 at 10:04 PM
Hobby
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
Conniekat8 posted Wed, 09 May 2007 at 10:04 PM
I do other kind of 3D for work, precise terrain modelling... Poser related stuff (character and prop modelling) is a hobby, well, really mixed, there's some crossover of tecniques.
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LostinSpaceman posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 12:01 AM
Completely Hobby. I concider it theraputic as well.
tebop posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 12:20 AM
So no one uses it for advertising??? I would be pretty convinced to buy a product or something if the graphics for the advertisement of a product included well rendered and well posed..Poser characters. Why do artist think they should just go for hig end 3d max or whatver to advertise?
Dajadues posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 1:39 AM
Not sure what you mean by advertising, but just a side hobby, for myself. I'm not that much into it anymore. I don't invest in it like I used too. I mainly do small animations, very seldom do I render still art these days & I am not a newbie been doing this for a long time. Most Poser users do this for enjoyment. Getting paid for my animations would never happen in a million years heh. So, I keep them for myself. Some get too large to share anyway.
thefixer posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 2:12 AM
Mainly a hobby but I do have 3 book covers that I did in print and hopefully more to come!
It'll never earn me enough to give up my day job!!
Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.
jeffg3 posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 3:03 AM
Work.
Casette posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 3:06 AM
Work
(erotic comic books)
CASETTE
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"Poser isn't a SOFTWARE... it's a RELIGION!"
ThrommArcadia posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 3:55 AM
Heh. It started with work and turned into a hobby that I am hoping will one day lead to work.
Does that make any sense?
I work in TV as an editor mostly. A number of years back I worked for a small production company and they had P4 on one of their computers. I used it to generate some little animations for a title sequence on a little adult film that came through.
It was really crappy in retrospect. I didn't have any add on content and I really had very little clue what I was doing.
Then I picked up P5 to use for some digital stunts for one of my own little films. After picking up P5 I found the community while looking for free stuff. That led to me using it for a hobby.
I've done some freelance still work for web sites and I've snuck a little poser into some TV programs since, but still, hobby.
I am now trying to put together something more substantial. I've written a script and I'm desigining tons of stuff for an animated film. Alas, though I lack enough computing power to go to the next level.
Soon, though, soon...
Though, I think I might just be crazy.
Hobbies can do that to you.
ashley9803 posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 4:11 AM
I thought it would be a hobby, but it's hard work.
stormchaser posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 6:26 AM
It's a hobby for me, although I would love to produce a piece of work one day that could be published. We can but dream........
Dead_Reckoning posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 6:40 AM
Purely a Hobby.
My Vocation is as a Merchant Ship Captain.
After 24/7 Responsibility for Crew, Cargo and Vessel for 120 - 180 days, it's nice to come home and find a release. Poser and Bryce have always done that for me.
"That government is
best which governs the least, because its people discipline
themselves."
Thomas Jefferson
David.J.Harmon posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 7:14 AM
For work, I don't have time for a hobby
David J Harmon
davidjharmon.com
Shadowdancer posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 7:32 AM
Hobby. Also consider it therapeutic after a day sorting out users (oh for an electric cattleprod) in a 6th Form College.
Helps me relax & not want to kil them.
FarawayPictures posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 7:33 AM
It's a hobby.
It has landed me work now and then. I've had some of my work put on a book, posters, aerosol cans and had to do some animations for work proposals.
I much prefer it as a hobby though, I hate being told what to do and where to do it LOL
metabog posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 8:14 AM
Omigod I'm getting a sickening feeling just contemplating what it would be like - being art directed on a Poser-based project by some typical ad agency art director or some hair-on-fire ape from the marketing group. Makes me wanna puke and then take up animal husbandry as a vocation. I'll stay on the hobbyist side of the fence for now. LOL!
archdruid posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 8:45 AM
In a sense, it's a hobby / learning thing... it also gives me a view of what direction I want to go, in a private project I'm doing for myself. It's going to be "a while" before it's anywhere near completion, though. Lou.
"..... and that was when things got interestiing."
jjroland posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 8:47 AM
Hmmm - started as hobby for a hobby that does pay - but I haven't even gotten to that part yet.
I originally got it to attempt to recreate in 3D a dance my troupe does. I thought it would be useful for people new to that dance and a nice gift for my instructor. As of yet, I still don't have the clothing she needs to wear so - I'm having fun with it as a hobby until then.
I am: aka Velocity3d
schtumpy posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 9:46 AM
Well, it's a little different for me. I'm a stay at home dad with two young kids, so I don't have a "job", but I do make some money on the side with Poser, so I guess that makes me a "professional" artist. Ha.
schtumpy posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 9:46 AM
Well, it's a little different for me. I'm a stay at home dad with two young kids, so I don't have a "job", but I do make some money on the side with Poser, so I guess that makes me a "professional" artist. Ha.
Indoda posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 9:58 AM
Hobby that is a lot of work and costs lots of money . . . but it keeps me off the streets
The important thing is not to stop questioning.
- Albert Einstein
Indoda
1358 posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 10:06 AM
Started as a hobby, ended up doing work for people, CD covers, small instructional anims, music vids... that sort of thing. Still use it mostly as a hobby, and therapy as well (every day and in every way, I'm getting better and better) :-)
Ghostofmacbeth posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 10:21 AM
Work
lesbentley posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 10:35 AM
Hobby.
Conniekat8 posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 11:48 AM
Quote - So no one uses it for advertising??? I would be pretty convinced to buy a product or something if the graphics for the advertisement of a product included well rendered and well posed..Poser characters. Why do artist think they should just go for hig end 3d max or whatver to advertise?
Every now and then I do some freelance graphics... I've used it for advertizing twice, but, with heavy postwork. Most advertizing graphics seem to need a somewhat different look then standard poser content puts out. Also, most artists whom create advertizing graphics have had more formal training which usually include figure drawing, and are not commonly in need of assistance.
I've tried using poser couple more times to produce exercise/stretching/injury rehabilitation pamplhlet for a friend of mine, and unfortunately Poser characters didn't cut it. The problem was that Poser figures were not able to illustrate the finer points of what we were trying to illustrate. I tried James, Jessi, M3 and V3. For example, proper vs. improper way of stretching a body part... The way the figures would bend couldn't illustrate either case. I wound up hand drawing them with help of a photo of a real person. And this was not for a high end type advertising, but for a relatively small business brochure. For any other graphics that need less detail, it's probably easier to hand sketch a few figures then to try to work them in poser. I don't use Poser figures to study artist anatomy or practice sketching, since the figures are not sufficiently correct, so when I do practice, I prefer photographs of real people.
There is a thread I noticed just yesterday at CG talk, a comment was made from one trained artist to another that the anatomy of the arm in a figure looked a little odd, and the person commenting took the image and retouched the changes. The finesse those guys notice about anatomy is so fine, it took me good 5 minutes examining the arm, and images side by side to see the anatomical problem. Once I spotted it, it made sense, and I could see it, and understand why. After seeing what detail trained artists can spot, I can just imagine how 'bad' some of the poser figures may look to them, when to me, who is only half ways trained in art they already don't cut it for a lot of images.
But, I like to tinker with Poser. Even though I can draw a figure (with a lot of pain and effort) it's not my strong suite, so when I need something that is not as anatomically correct, Poser can be fun to play with. Also, what makes it interesting for me is the content that people produce for it. It's what I like to use for unwinding and less serious work.
Anyway, that's my 2c on the subject :)
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XENOPHONZ posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 12:47 PM
I've seen at least one Poser-created ad in a professional engineering industry magazine. The 'artwork' consisted of the P4 casual man standing, and then mirrored to look like a couple of bookends. The scene was rendered entirely in a uniform brown -- no textures, no colors. I forget what the ad was for. Some contracting company or tool supplier -- one of those types of engineering corporate entities. At the time, I was mildly curious as to how much the artist had been paid for producing the image. Assuming, of course, that the image wasn't simply created in-house by a draftsman or secretary.
As for me -- I use Poser both as a hobby and for work. It's always nice if your work revolves around something that you enjoy doing.
kuroyume0161 posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 12:54 PM
Work, work, work.
Though not for end results (i.e.: renders) but mainly for dissection and examination. ;)
C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the
foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do, you blow your whole leg
off.
-- Bjarne
Stroustrup
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majesticartist posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 1:26 PM
hobby.....but would love it to turn into work! :)
Turtle posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 1:47 PM
Hobby. Poser is a wonderful program to get emotional releases, Make renders for people. A Fun hobby, but expensive.
When I did watercolors, inks, etc, I would make a nice bit of fun money from my Art Shows.
Love is Grandchildren.
aeilkema posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 5:12 PM
Both. I'm using it just for fun, but also at work. Poser is often used to create illustrations for the training sessions I do give, I'm creating comics with it for an organisation and I'm using for games. All of them combined earn me a nice extra income.
But never seen anyone that uses it to make full fledge projects that pay.
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bopperthijs posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 5:44 PM
I've once used the clothroom for a work-project but for me poser is a hobby, which I can use for work.
Regards,
Bopperthijs
-How can you improve things when you don't make mistakes?
svdl posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 5:57 PM
Hobby. Though I sometimes use Poser for work - it's a perfect app for showing how gimbal lock occurs (I teach 3D math, among other things).
The pen is mightier than the sword. But if you literally want to have some impact, use a typewriter
Neyjour posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 6:27 PM
Mostly a hobby for me, but also a bit of work every now and then.
"You don't know what we can see
Why don't you tell your dreams to me
Fantasy will set you free." - Steppenwolf
masha posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 8:07 PM
Hobby mainly, but have used it for blocking out choreography,some set design in conjunction with PS an teaching adagio (balancing combined with dancing.) Wasn't exactly a breezei n P4. :)
FlyByNight posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 8:14 PM
I'd guess both for me. My art work sells fairly well.
FlyByNight
ockham posted Thu, 10 May 2007 at 10:03 PM
Both. I make CD study guides (courseware) for a series of college textbooks,
using Poser and some other programming skills.
A link to the biggest book:
http://www.amazon.com/Anatomy-Physiology-Speech-Language-Hearing/dp/1401825818/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-7155841-6501736?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178852363&sr=8-1
Which reminds me .... I really, really, REALLY need to get busy on the
next edition!
lundqvist posted Fri, 11 May 2007 at 2:54 AM
Hobby. But it sometimes seems like work :)
TylerZambori posted Fri, 11 May 2007 at 7:57 AM
I was thinking, Poser was used to produce the first-ever 3D animated cartoon series in India,
called "The Adventures of Montu miah."
http://www.e-frontier.com/article/articleview/419/1/388/
So if it's good enough for that, maybe it is good enough for commercial
work. Maybe people just have a pre-concieved attitude about it?
tebop posted Fri, 11 May 2007 at 8:32 AM
TylerZambori Hey , thats awesome news i didn't know about. Great team by the way. i give themm props ockham, GREAT! wish you luck on your books. I did see the cover, didn't see the inside. but i wish you use poser tons :) it would be fun
drifterlee posted Fri, 11 May 2007 at 11:36 AM
Isn't the gecko in the US Geico insurance TV commercials a Poser gecko from Daz? Just think how much money fashion magazine would save if they used Poser for their ads intstead of tempermental, overpaid models.
svdl posted Fri, 11 May 2007 at 11:58 AM
Quote - Isn't the gecko in the US Geico insurance TV commercials a Poser gecko from Daz? Just think how much money fashion magazine would save if they used Poser for their ads intstead of tempermental, overpaid models.
That would be a great idea indeed! Us dynamic cloth modelers could earn a nice amount of money from this.
The pen is mightier than the sword. But if you literally want to have some impact, use a typewriter
drifterlee posted Fri, 11 May 2007 at 12:23 PM
Character makers could too. Camel Cigarettes always to my knowlege used an illustrated woman in their ads.