Jules53757 opened this issue on Jul 16, 2007 · 87 posts
Jules53757 posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 1:09 PM
Great new look, can't read the headlines in the forums as white letters on light grey background ist standard in ergonomics :((
Ulli
"Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!"
SamTherapy posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 1:13 PM
StaceyG posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 1:15 PM
Please be patient while the transformation is taking place. As stated in the Front page article the transformation is happening live and things will appear strange or incomplete in the process.
Please read ALL the information at the link below
http://www.renderosity.com/news.php?viewStory=13660
drifterlee posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 1:15 PM
Please change lettering to black!!!!! Can't read it!
mylemonblue posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 1:23 PM
Hmmmmm...It's like, the old 99 version of this site, RDNA, techno, and gradients, all mixed together into one. Interesting...
My brain is just a toy box filled with weird things
FrankT posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 1:26 PM
Ooo much better - I can read it now :)
Dead_Reckoning posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 1:30 PM
Quote - Shoot me now. :D
Looks like they hired the same kids that Daz did.
Now it's a toss up to see who has the worst color schemes.
What is it with these glaring gradient BGs???????????????????????
"That government is
best which governs the least, because its people discipline
themselves."
Thomas Jefferson
dphoadley posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 1:30 PM
Aside from the absence of overt sex, the site's beginning to resemble Renderotica. I really don't like Renderotica.
DPH
Khai posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 1:32 PM
Quote - > Quote - Shoot me now. :D
Looks like they hired the same kids that Daz did.
Now it's a toss up to see who has the worst color schemes.What is it with these glaring gradient BGs???????????????????????
what ... the darkish blue? thats glaring?
mylemonblue posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 1:35 PM
Only one complaint-------------------------------------these------------------------>
LOL.
My brain is just a toy box filled with weird things
Acadia posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 1:37 PM
I actually like it so far :) It is a bit of an adjustment, but it's a nice looking design. I particularly like the drop down menus with everything grouped by similarity instead of a long list to the side.
I think I'd like to eventually find a way to change the text box to a light gray or pale blue because the white with the dark surrounding it is a bit bright for me. But that's the only real issue for me at this present time though. But maybe that will be changing too.
Give them time to finish uploading the changes :)
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heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
Acadia posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 1:38 PM
Quote - Only one complaint-------------------------------------these------------------------>
LOL.
You don't like being a star?!
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
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graphicsguy posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 1:38 PM
Reverse type is MUCH HARDER to read. Ask any web design professional or ergonomics text.
Please restore to black on white/light background.
White type is very hard on the eyes.
And what's up with this 8-point/10-point microscopic font size? Please make the default 12-point font like it used to be.
Ghostofmacbeth posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 1:39 PM
Quote - > Quote - > Quote - Shoot me now. :D
Looks like they hired the same kids that Daz did.
Now it's a toss up to see who has the worst color schemes.What is it with these glaring gradient BGs???????????????????????
what ... the darkish blue? thats glaring?
On the side it fades to a lightish grey and it had white text for a bit. Now it has dark text.
Khai posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 1:40 PM
funny.. I find it's the other way round myself.. a few mins reading black on white from a screen and my eyes are killing me. but white on black/dark? read that for hours...
Ghostofmacbeth posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 1:41 PM
I actually like it with the white text better. The other way was always hard on my eyes and there was a pile of complaints at the time of the last change. They seemed to have listened (after a couple of years).
Gareee posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 1:44 PM
Another site that looks better at 150% in IE7, on a 1600x1200 desktop res monitor.
Otherwise the text is all very small.
First daz, and Now rendo.... they must all own stock in my optomitrist.
Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.
Conniekat8 posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 1:47 PM
Quote - Reverse type is MUCH HARDER to read. Ask any web design professional or ergonomics text. > Quote -
Actually, most design and graphics professionals (me including) will tell you that it's just the opposite, light text on a dark background is much easier on the eyes for long term use - on a computer. Which is why you'll see many graphics pro's change their windows and interfaces to dark background, dark toolbars etc.
Printed word is a whole different story, but we're talking about websites here.
It does take little getting used to, light text on a dark background, if you don't use it a lot.
I think most websites are still designed for 1024x768 resolution. By the width of the main layout, I'd say that's the case for this one too. At 1200x1600 resolution, it's to be expected to look small.
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mylemonblue posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 1:52 PM
Quote - > Quote - Only one complaint-------------------------------------these------------------------>
LOL.
You don't like being a star?!
There is only one real Texas Ranger.......Chuck Norris.
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drifterlee posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 2:48 PM
White text sucks! It is MUCH harder to read especially if you have bad eyesight like me.
cherokee69 posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 2:50 PM
crucibelle posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 3:14 PM
Well, the text could stand to be a little larger, but overall, I'm loving the new look. Looks much more professional than before, in my opinion. Great job, Rendo! :)
Jules53757 posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 3:20 PM
Well, with the new background color, I can read the topics, Thanks!
Ulli
"Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!"
cherokee69 posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 3:22 PM
Quote - Well, the text could stand to be a little larger, but overall, I'm loving the new look. Looks much more professional than before, in my opinion. Great job, Rendo! :)
Yeah. the text could be a little larger. Guess that don't take into consideration those that now meed a magnifyer to read what's here.
jjroland posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 3:22 PM
Yah these were my favorite forums to read because they were the only ones still white background and black text. I can't read it now. Incidentally I also shopped here the most since I was always here reading the forums anyway.
crossing my fingers hoping I can set it back to black text on white background in my own prefs.
I am: aka Velocity3d
Khai posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 3:30 PM
Quote - Yah these were my favorite forums to read because they were the only ones still white background and black text. I can't read it now. Incidentally I also shopped here the most since I was always here reading the forums anyway.
crossing my fingers hoping I can set it back to black text on white background in my own prefs.
Quote -
you can post to the css forum for requests.
Dead_Reckoning posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 3:30 PM
Quote - funny.. I find it's the other way round myself.. a few mins reading black on white from a screen and my eyes are killing me. but white on black/dark? read that for hours...
Maybe you pass this on to publishers?
Maybe we should have been readung books with black pages and white text al these years.
Small white text on darb bg is a majopr eye strain for me.
"That government is
best which governs the least, because its people discipline
themselves."
Thomas Jefferson
Khai posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 3:32 PM
as I said.. on a screen not a book.
jjroland posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 3:33 PM
""Quote - "
you can post to the css forum for requests.""
I don't even know what that means.... or wtf a css is
I am: aka Velocity3d
Khai posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 3:35 PM
Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showforum.php?forum_id=12471
CSS is how you changed it in your pref's to start with.. it's a programming script.the CSS forum is where ppl have been sharing this on this site since the site overhaul last year...
SYNTRIFID posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 3:59 PM
Black on white, white on black (or blue) whatever, I personally couldn't care less. As long as there is a contrast so it's readable. - Now something like bright yellow text on white background, now THAT's unforgivable :tongue2:
Granted a little larger font would be appreciated but the color scheme makes little difference to me.
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StaceyG posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 4:01 PM
We are going to try some larger font in just a few when the programmers get through with what they are working on at the moment:)
artistheat posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 4:02 PM
Cool...
bjt860 posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 4:05 PM
Me likey.
Ardiva posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 4:07 PM
Quote - With a wide screen monitor, this sucks. So much wasted space on each side.
Remind me not to get a wide screen monitor. I feel your pain.
jjroland posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 4:24 PM
I have a pretty darn big wide screen moniter and while there is wasted space at the sides it doesn't really seem extreme to me.
Just the horrendous background thats bothering me personally. Wish they would have switched off and made the side bar background color the main background color instead.
I am: aka Velocity3d
PXP posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 4:33 PM
Early days folks I'm sure they are listening and those with complaints, well they'll get it right! As for myself I like it and its very promising!
dogor posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 4:40 PM
I had a little trouble finding where to log in. Other than that I think it looks good. The darker colors are easier on my eyes. To each his or her own.
dogor
SnowSultan posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 4:45 PM
I like the new look too, especially compared to what DAZ did with their site. As for widescreen viewing, you really just have to reduce your browser window. Very few, if any websites are designed for resolutions like 1920x1080 (which I use), so I just adjust my window and it looks fine.
SnowS
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robertalove posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 5:00 PM
I love it. Nice change.
pcopensource posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 5:10 PM
I can't read white text on a blue background.
So how do I get settings back to black text on a light background ?
Terry Mitchell posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 5:15 PM
Yes, slighter larger fonts would be nice.
And where'e the "logout" button? I can't seem to find it.
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patorak posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 5:16 PM
I like it! Thanks!
crucibelle posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 5:23 PM
Quote - We are going to try some larger font in just a few when the programmers get through with what they are working on at the moment:)
Good news, thanks! :)
fiontar posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 5:27 PM
I like the new design personally.
It would be great if they offered alternate page styles. That's one of the advantages of using style sheets for web page formating, alternative color schemes can be easily offered.
For those who absolutely can't stand the white text on dark background, Firefox allows you to turn the page style off and view the site in a very basic format. Not sure if IE offers such an option. Won't look any where near as pretty, but very functional.
Tashar59 posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 5:28 PM
I don't mind it. Better than I thought it would be after the last time. I doesn't bother my eyes like at Daz. I use my old computer and monitor for the net, so it fits fine on my screen but I agree that something should be done for widescreen users.
I did have to check twice when I first looked in. I thought I was at a different site. LOL.
pjz99 posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 5:28 PM
The word is: Yuck.
Boni posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 6:11 PM
Personally, I love it ... but ... I feel for those who have a hard time reading white on dark. (My personal preference.) If we all could choose colorschemes like back in the beginning of Rendo. Choose our profile colors ... FROM the home page, not just galleries and forums, then everyone could have a color scheme that would fit thier individual visual needs. I've been visually impaired all my life and nothing puts me off from a web site than not being able to read it from the default schene they have. This is for you drifterlee ~ you've always been a good member here.
Sincerely
~ Boni ~
Boni
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SamTherapy posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 6:30 PM
Quote - > Quote - Shoot me now. :D
Looks like they hired the same kids that Daz did.
Now it's a toss up to see who has the worst color schemes.What is it with these glaring gradient BGs???????????????????????
My quote is meant to be taken in fun; being a quote from a Lenny Henry character who says that every time something happens that he'd rather avoid.
I don't mind the new look but I'm already wazzed off with people complaining about it. But, kind soul that I am, I'd never say that in public. :D
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
cindyx posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 7:06 PM
I like the new look a lot. I think it's very promising. Great job by everyone.
Mogwa posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 7:08 PM
I appreciate all the hard work and the new scheme, but the high contrast text on a dark background is less than kind on the eyes after a few minutes reading.
Feel free to disparage my opinion. After all, I actually thought the DAZ site redesign was beautiful.
Duh.
cherokee69 posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 7:22 PM
Quote - I appreciate all the hard work and the new scheme, but the high contrast text on a dark background is less than kind on the eyes after a few minutes reading.
Feel free to disparage my opinion. After all, I actually thought the DAZ site redesign was beautiful.
Duh.
Oh they will disagree with you on the text color but what everyone doesn't seem to be think about is that what's good for one person isn't good for another. Very bad thing to consider every person is the same and has the same eyes.
graphicsguy posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 7:31 PM
I like the overall look and feel of the new site, but the tiny white font on dark background is hard to see. Please consider having an option to let us see nice clean black text on white background, 12 point font, so it's readable. This current font size etc is hard on the eyes, imho.
mylemonblue posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 7:49 PM
I don't know what the problem is. The text look just fine in my scanning electron microscope. LOL. Ack it shrunk even more!(kidding) Hehehehe....
Hmmmmm... Well if they insist on keeping Chuck Norris's Texas Ranger badge then the text might as well be yellow to.
All together...
In the eyes of a Ranger,
The unsuspected stranger
Had better know the truth of wrong from right,
'Cause the eyes of a Ranger are upon you,
Any wrong you do he's gonna see,
When you're in Texas look behind you,
'Cause that's where the Ranger's gonna be
My brain is just a toy box filled with weird things
GeofiX posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 8:11 PM
“The text look just fine in my scanning electron microscope”
LOL! Love that!
This looks like the DAZ site, but with better colors…
(I did NOT mean that has a compliment)
SamTherapy posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 8:35 PM
I have to agree with graphicsguy. The font is, what we in the trade call "gnat's cock" size and even on this bigass monitor is rather hard to distiguish.
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
StaceyG posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 8:41 PM
We are going to tweak the font a bit probably tomorrow..
Also when the forum and gallery options open back up, anyone that wants can work on some new CSS codes and post in the CSS forum or ask for help there.
StaceyG posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 8:53 PM
FYI, the forum and gallery options are open again so if anyone wants to do their own CSS code, you can go for it:)
Dead_Reckoning posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 10:14 PM
Quote - > Quote - Well, the text could stand to be a little larger, but overall, I'm loving the new look. Looks much more professional than before, in my opinion. Great job, Rendo! :)
Yeah. the text could be a little larger. Guess that don't take into consideration those that now meed a magnifyer to read what's here.
I will 2nd that.
I have my glasses on and I need a magnifying glass to read the text.
"That government is
best which governs the least, because its people discipline
themselves."
Thomas Jefferson
GeofiX posted Mon, 16 July 2007 at 10:55 PM
Hey Stacey
Thanks for the FYI
I edited the CSS code (A first for me) and I can now read the text without kissing my monitor.
I was in the same boat as Mariner (Bad pun intended)
KarenJ posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 2:51 AM
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and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan
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pjz99 posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 3:06 AM
Yes, that's what I thought too!
aeilkema posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 3:11 AM
I like the new look and it sure doesn't look like the crappy new DAZ. For me it's good to view, good to read, and pleasant on the eyes.
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Lord_syphex posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 3:58 AM
Pitchforks here! Get yer pitchforks here!
vince3 posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 4:26 AM
what is happening to Karen avatar this week? now it has gone all squishy! before her eyes had gone all evil types, i think the avatar monster has got her, and she needs our help!!
never fear Karen, there is a rescue party assembled and we are working on a cunning rescue plan right now!! we'll save you.
...........sorry, i just found out that Baldric is in charge of cunning plans this week, so we may be a while yet!
vince3 posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 4:28 AM
i think the yellow stars are ok too!!
they look like we have done "good work" and have been given a star for behaving well and sitting still in assembly.
KarenJ posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 4:49 AM
My avatar is somewhere screaming "Hay-ulp! Hay-ulp!" (If you're under 30 you probably won't remember the cartoon I'm referencing, but nevermind)
I am asking for the stars to be changed to a proper transparent background because I think they're harder on the eyes now, from the main forum page. Also the smilies need updating as some of them now have rather strange white "tabs" around them...
:sneaky:
:lol:
etc...
"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan
Shire
pjz99 posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 5:06 AM
Transparency isn't cut right, it doesn't matter against a white background but it shows now rather badly. It actually looks okay now with a bigger font, although black background web pages are very passé.
I know the animation you're talking about :)
Traligill posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 5:09 AM
I am commenting here because I really can't see where else too. (literally
)I love the way the pics look with the black background, my images never looked so good!!!
BUT seriously I can't read the forums!!!!! really, having huge difficulty in making out the words!
I know some have saide it much better for them and thats great! but seems like for some of us it is really a huge problem!!!!!
vince3 posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 5:22 AM
the perils of Karen1573?
that cunjurs (spelling) up all kinda tying Karen up imagery!! i'm gonna need to wash my mind out with soap now........................................................nah! i wash it out later! this is too good to stop thinking about already!!..........ahhh!! visuals are back (puts "do not disturb" sign on forehead).
wolf359 posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 6:13 AM
Ardiva posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 6:20 AM
KarenJ posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 6:42 AM
Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showforum.php?forum_id=12471
Hi Traligill, I believe the programmers will be making some adjustments to the text size today.You can also check out the CSS workroom (link attached) where people will be posting their custom css sheets that you can use to increase text size/colours/etc.
"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan
Shire
SamTherapy posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 7:33 AM
Now the font size has been changed I have absolutely no problems with the way the site looks at all. I'm assuming this is the default look, since I believe all the CSS styles were disabled for the changeover. If that's the case, I'm leaving things as they are because I rather like it.
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
KarenJ posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 7:43 AM
Is is bigger than last night, Paul? I'm not sure because I'm at work now so I'm on a smaller resolution than at home anyway... I know I was finding the fonts a little small on my 1280x1024 last night...
"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan
Shire
cherokee69 posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 8:01 AM
Karen,
At least the fonts are a little bigger. Next question, what can we do so the site isn't squashed in the middle of a wide screen monitor with alot of dead space on each side?
vince3 posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 8:57 AM
sorry if i went too far with my last comment Karen.
am in silly mood today.
will stand in the corner now.
mylemonblue posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 9:47 AM
Quote - sorry if i went too far with my last comment Karen.
am in silly mood today.
will stand in the corner now.
We'll let you get away with not having to stand in the corner but you have to tell us what character is in your avitar. Your avitar is super awesome.
My brain is just a toy box filled with weird things
Turtle posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 10:40 AM
Seems good to me. Much better than Daz, which made my eyes water.
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Kendra posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 11:38 AM
What's up with the old logo being up there today?
...... Kendra
KarenJ posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 1:04 PM
It's okay Vince. You know what my fellow mods call me in the staff room? Bo- ...Um. Karen. Yeah, that's it, Karen. :lol:
Cherokee, I'm thinking that some messing with the CSS may help those on widescreen. I don't have a widescreen, so it's kind of hard for me to experiment here. I see you've already got a thread in the CSS forum so hopefully one of the experts can help work something out. If I get time to experiment myself, I'll drop anything i come up with into that thread.
"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan
Shire
cherokee69 posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 1:18 PM
Quote -
Cherokee, I'm thinking that some messing with the CSS may help those on widescreen. I don't have a widescreen, so it's kind of hard for me to experiment here. I see you've already got a thread in the CSS forum so hopefully one of the experts can help work something out. If I get time to experiment myself, I'll drop anything i come up with into that thread.
Karen,
I've looked at the CSS default setup but it looks totally different than the previous one. I've played around with a few settings but everything I do doesn't make a difference. Nothing changes with any settings I make.
Conniekat8 posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 1:27 PM
I've looked at the CSS default setup but it looks totally different than the previous one. I've played around with a few settings but everything I do doesn't make a difference. Nothing changes with any settings I make.
I believe changing local css settings wouldn't make a difference. The width of the page is probably hard coded in the layout part of the css.
Why not just resize your window, like most other people do?
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cherokee69 posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 1:39 PM
leather-guy posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 2:07 PM
That's what I got this morning. I had changed to the suggested settings in a CSS thread. Changed back to the defaults and it stopped.
Conniekat8 posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 4:03 PM
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Traligill posted Tue, 17 July 2007 at 4:50 PM
Thanks Karen:) Here's something interesting. I just upgraded from IE 6 to 7 and eveything looks much better. Not nearly as bright and glarey.