SamTherapy opened this issue on Jul 26, 2007 · 104 posts
SamTherapy posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 4:13 PM
Acting on the advice of thefixer and others I got the free Vue PLE. All downloaded and installed now, so how do I get Poser stuff in there?
Please don't tell me I have to do something daft like export everything as OBJ. You really don't want to see a grown man cry.
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BAR-CODE posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 4:18 PM
Nope ... setup your scene in poser and load/import the PZ3 file into Vue ...
thats it ...
Chris
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SamTherapy posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 4:25 PM
BAR-CODE posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 4:27 PM
stormchaser posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 4:29 PM
Sam - Probably one of the most important things here. Uncheck the 'use external binary morph targets' otherwise your Poser figures may lose their morphs!
stormchaser posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 4:30 PM
Sam - Can you use the shader tree in the PLE version?
SamTherapy posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 4:36 PM
I never use the external binary morph bollocks anyway. That was the first thing I disabled in P6.
Yep, you can use Poser shader trees.
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
stormchaser posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 4:40 PM
"I never use the external binary morph bollocks anyway"
I'll take that as you already have it unchecked?!! :lol:
Just in case you don't know, generally when using the shader tree it will use more of your rmemory. I can get away with it on 1GB but I'm not doing complex scenes at the moment.
SamTherapy posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 4:42 PM
Aye, it did warn me that my RAM would get eaten if I had the Poser options switched on. I'm not doing owt with it at the moment, though. .I just fropped in a character to see what happened.
So far, so good but I see a learning curve on the horizon.
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
stormchaser posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 4:53 PM
What kind of lightwork are you into? If you're looking to experiment with Global Illumination & Global Radiosity you'll love it! I'm only now just experimenting with HDRI.
SamTherapy posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 5:04 PM
That's the sort of stuff I was thinking of. I've had a play around with Poser's IBL and AO and so far got absolutely rubbish results. I guess it's a matter of perseverance, though, since others can get good results.
Vue, though, seems to have a hell of a lot to offer so, since it's free, I thought I'd give it a whirl.
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
stormchaser posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 5:10 PM
A word of warning Sam. If you find Poser addictive, you've just doubled your addiction!
stormchaser posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 5:26 PM
Totally off topic. I've just realised who you remind me of Sam in your avatar. Paul Young!
Morgano posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 5:51 PM
When you have successfully imported something into Vue, Vue often seems to complain about a shortage of resources. This isn't a major problem, but minimising Vue may help to free up some of the zillion cubic miles of storage that Vue uses for the import (especially if you choose to maintain the Poser connections). I tend to reckon that Vue is ready to go once it starts to draw the miniature render window on the righthand side (don't know if that's in your version). The first thing you should do, though, is save the file while Vue is stable. Vue can give an "out of memory" error when there is no shortage of available memory and, unlike the "shortage of resources" message, the "out of memory" one is a killer. Vue will say that it's trying to store your work, but I suspect that it just goes into an endless loop.
I do like the results from Vue, when I get any, but it can be a pretty frustrating application to use with Poser.
Acadia posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 5:54 PM
Free VUE? Where?
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
stormchaser posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 6:01 PM
Acadia - www.e-onsoftware.com/try/vue_6_ple/
stormchaser posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 6:04 PM
Another thing is to try & purge your memory often. You'll find it in the bottom right hand corner of the screen. It's the arrow next to where it states what percentage of resources you have free.
FrankT posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 7:30 PM
GR renders can be horribly slow - for outside scenes, I can't see the point in it. I usually stick with GI.
One handy trick to cut the render time significantly is to set the quality in the atmosphere editor to -1. Makes hardly any difference to the final result but it'll cut your render times in half
Acadia posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 7:41 PM
Thanks :) I'm downloading it now. They said the torrent was faster, but for me the regular download is double the speed of the torrent I just tried.
So I understand that it's not a matter of just importing into Vue, that you have to set the lights and shaders up in there too? For example I know Vue renders glass much better than Poser, so do I do the glass shaders in Poser or do I do them in Vue?
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
FrankT posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 8:06 PM
I do 'em in Vue. The glass is a whole lot better. You have things like dispersion and proper caustics. You can set the refractive index of the glass as well if you fancy tweaking it around a bit.
Vue doesn't import Poser lights in any way shape or form. This is a good thing because the Vue lights are a hell of a lot better (and easier to move around) than Posers are.
stormchaser posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 8:08 PM
Global Radiosity is best for indoor use because it calculates light reflected surfaces, which is why it can be slow for outdoor scenes. GIobal Illumination is best for outdoor scenes as it produces more of a natural outdoor light, like a dome.
"so do I do the glass shaders in Poser or do I do them in Vue?"
Depends if your object already had the glass shaders, if not then just go with Vue's materials as they are of a high standard. You can also mix materials, change transparency, reflection, diffuse values etc. If you have the right light setup with the correct render settings the finished render should look brilliant. Light works wonderfully in Vue, adding soft shadows really gives it that touch as well, even though render times will increase.
stormchaser posted Thu, 26 July 2007 at 8:19 PM
thefixer posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 2:23 AM
Glass and lighting and most everything is better in Vue than Poser, you'll find that once you get into Vue properly, you will always light and render in Vue instead of Poser!
Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.
vincebagna posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 3:34 AM
After having tried Vue lighting, you'll find Poser lights fake! Warning of the addiction!
Since i work with Vue, i only made 2 or 3 renders with Poser. And basically all for checking the scene i wanted to import into Vue. With Vue in your toolbox, Poser will return to it's first meaning of use, a pose software.
Vue handles a lot more of things than Poser: Reflections, HDRI, ambiant GI, GR, caustics (well i personally think that Carrara5 gives better caustics than Vue, but it's only my point of view). Soft shadows are diamonds compared to Poser shadows. Be aware that if you use Vue PLE, you'll buy the complete version soon! ;)
EnglishBob posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 4:42 AM
I may have to try Vue again. I bought Vue 4 mainly to use as a renderer for Poser 4, but never could get the PZ3 import to work properly. Then Poser got a better renderer and I never went back to Vue. At least with the PLE version I can be sure it's going to work for me. What are the render limits? It says "renders may be watermarked and carry a logo".
stormchaser posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 6:05 AM
EnglishBob - I haven't heard of any limits on the render size, apart from what your computer can handle.
vincebagna posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 6:12 AM
I think the only limitation is the logo sprayed all over your render. No render size limit (at my knowledge), no time limit. And you cannot open scene files made in other Vue versions, nor make your scene file available for other Vue versions.
vincebagna posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 6:18 AM
stormchaser - Earlier you talked about avatar, i see you've changed yours. I'm shocked! I thought you were a she! LOL
FrankT posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 7:02 AM
you also can't purchase extra content from Cornucopia unless they've finally managed to get that working
thefixer posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 7:09 AM
@vincebagna: 
Did you read that stormy????????
Sorry Vince, Private joke between me and Stormchaser!!!
Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.
stormchaser posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 7:42 AM
Vince - This is exactly why I changed my avater, I knew too many people thought I was a she!
Look at thefixer's avatar, that really is what he looks like!
vincebagna posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 7:52 AM
Quote - Look at thefixer's avatar, that really is what he looks like!
Wow... uh... ek.... thefixer, do you want me to give you an avatar? It's free! I insist. Like a gift. A present. Pleasssssssssse...!!! :lol:
stormchaser posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 8:00 AM
No, you can't change thefixer's avatar! It wouldn't be the same, it's legendary on here!
thefixer posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 8:01 AM
So what you trying to say?? You don't like my avatar???
Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.
vincebagna posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 8:33 AM
No, your avatar is fine. Do you really have the same face that it??? I can't beleive it! :lol:
thefixer posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 8:40 AM
So you don't like my face now?? 
Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.
stormchaser posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 8:54 AM
Vince - Gwyn is a very emotional guy. Now he really does look like that smilie!
Acadia posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 9:14 AM
Question. Which one do I install? It's asking me to install either "infinite" or "XStream". What is the difference?
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
stormchaser posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 9:18 AM
Acadia - XStream is only for those wishing to import their Vue scenes into 3DS Max, Maya etc.
If you just want to import your Poser stuff & render within Vue then Infinite is the one for you.
Acadia posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 9:18 AM
Quote - I think the only limitation is the logo sprayed all over your render.
Hmm. This free version of Vue that I am about to install puts a watermark all over my rendered image?
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
thefixer posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 9:19 AM
Xstream allows exporting to other high end apps like maya, 3ds max, lightwave and Cinema 4D
If you don't have any of those you might as well have Infinite, there are no other differences!
Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.
vincebagna posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 9:20 AM
Quote - Question. Which one do I install? It's asking me to install either "infinite" or "XStream". What is the difference?
XStream version is useful if you own C4D, Maya, Max, Lightwave or XSI softwares. If not, instal Infinite.
thefixer - I never wanted to hurt you. I'm only thinking right now that it's a chance that we've not the obligation to show our real faces... LOL
just kidding hope you don't see mine...
stormchaser posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 9:20 AM
Afraid so Acadia. If it didn't you'd be basically getting the software for nothing!
thefixer posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 9:20 AM
LOL, x-post stormy!!
Is that jjroland still tied to that post??
Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.
vincebagna posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 9:21 AM
Oups! Cross post! 
Acadia posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 9:22 AM
Quote - Afraid so Acadia. If it didn't you'd be basically getting the software for nothing!
Ok. I'll give it a try anyway and see. The watermark can't be worse than that 3D Mailbox, LOL Besides, I've always wanted to try Vue.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
stormchaser posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 9:23 AM
jj's being a saucy little minx at the moment so I'm taking her off to be punished! :woot:
vincebagna posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 9:25 AM
Morgano posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 2:28 PM
*you also can't purchase extra content from Cornucopia unless they've finally managed to get that working
*I have managed to buy the odd thing there, but I seem to remember it was more complicated a process than it really needed to be.
Little_Dragon posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 2:48 PM
Any other limitations of which we should be aware, or is it just the watermark?
Tyger_purr posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 2:56 PM
"The Personal Learning Edition (PLE) is a fully functional version of Vue 6 Infinite/xStream (selection of Infinite or xStream is done during installation). With the PLE, you can:
The PLE is for personal, non-commercial use only, files cannot be exchanged with other PLE users and are not compatible with other versions of Vue, renders may be watermarked and carry a logo.
"
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SamTherapy posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 3:21 PM
Btw, Tigers don't purr. It's one of the distinguishing features of big cats. :)
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
jjroland posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 3:54 PM
""Is that jjroland still tied to that post??""
Hey! How did I get tied to a post??
I am: aka Velocity3d
Tyger_purr posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 3:55 PM
Quote - Btw, Tigers don't purr. It's one of the distinguishing features of big cats. :)
true, but Tyger_Prustin, just didnt sound as cool to me.
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Morgano posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 5:17 PM
I wonder how many scientists got eaten, trying to hear if Tigers and Jaguars purred or not. And then there were the ones who worked out that King Cobras were deaf. I bet there's somebody, somewhere, right now, checking on the dental hygiene of salt-water crocs.
SamTherapy posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 5:20 PM
Quote - I wonder how many scientists got eaten, trying to hear if Tigers and Jaguars purred or not.
Ah. You must come from the land where they never heard of highly directional, long distance, extremely sensitive microphones. Pleased to meet you. :)
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
XENOPHONZ posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 5:20 PM
Quote - Btw, Tigers don't purr. It's one of the distinguishing features of big cats. :)
I've heard that panthers can purr. Loudly, too. IIRC, they are the only one of the big cats who can. Although it seems like I might have heard something about cheetahs, too......I'd have to check.
XENOPHONZ posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 5:24 PM
Quote - Afraid so Acadia. If it didn't you'd be basically getting the software for nothing!
Sounds like a great idea to me......perhaps I'll contact e-on, and suggest it to them. I've always heard that there's no harm in asking. :biggrin:
SamTherapy posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 5:25 PM
Quote - > Quote - Btw, Tigers don't purr. It's one of the distinguishing features of big cats. :)
I've heard that panthers can purr. Loudly, too. IIRC, they are the only one of the big cats who can. Although it seems like I might have heard something about cheetahs, too......I'd have to check.
Cheetahs most definitely can - and do - purr. They are not strictly speaking Big Cats. They belong to a category (pun intended) of their own. Not so sure about panthers, though.. Big Cats are usually classified as Leo or Panthera and, AFIAK, none of 'em can purr. But then, if they wanted to try, I sure wouldn't be the one to stop 'em.
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
Morgano posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 5:25 PM
*Ah. You must come from the land where they never heard of highly directional, long distance, extremely sensitive microphones. Pleased to meet you. :)
*Fair point. I'll try a different tack. I wonder how many scientists went cataleptic while waiting for the big cats to purr and got colonised by termites.
XENOPHONZ posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 5:33 PM
I'm sure that the panther's purring is an expression of pleasure in anticipation of the tastiness of the free meal that's just offered itself to him -- the meal who is attempting to find out whether or not the panther can purr. The panther is just being obliging.
vincebagna posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 5:36 PM
So the scientist is the guest for the dinner. Well, panthers are very polite.
jwhitham posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 5:42 PM
Quote - I wonder how many scientists got eaten, trying to hear if Tigers and Jaguars purred or not.
Ever wondered how many poor sods got locked up for assault whilst they were perfecting the Heimlich Manoeuvre? What about the fireman's lift, envisaged in the Victorian era?
jwhitham posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 6:20 PM
BTW just thought I'd add...
<SeductiveBeat="on">
Sam come over to C3D, we are your friends, we only want the best for you. Vue is the way ahead. You won't regret it. Come, come, Sam into the arms of friends...
We'll have have none of your mucky Northern brew, mind you.
John Whitham
C3D Moderator, South-eastern Orthodox (Home Counties) congress of 2007.
kalon posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 7:44 PM
Quote - > Quote - Afraid so Acadia. If it didn't you'd be basically getting the software for nothing!
Ok. I'll give it a try anyway and see. The watermark can't be worse than that 3D Mailbox, LOL Besides, I've always wanted to try Vue.
Learn quickly...
According to the email that delivers the download link...
Render up to 800x600 without watermark for 30 days!
SamTherapy posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 7:47 PM
Quote - BTW just thought I'd add...
<SeductiveBeat="on">
Sam come over to C3D, we are your friends, we only want the best for you. Vue is the way ahead. You won't regret it. Come, come, Sam into the arms of friends...
We'll have have none of your mucky Northern brew, mind you.John Whitham
C3D Moderator, South-eastern Orthodox (Home Counties) congress of 2007.
I usually drink Belgian, French or German beer, or Scotch. :)
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
jwhitham posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 7:59 PM
Quote - > Quote - BTW just thought I'd add...
<SeductiveBeat="on">
Sam come over to C3D, we are your friends, we only want the best for you. Vue is the way ahead. You won't regret it. Come, come, Sam into the arms of friends...
We'll have have none of your mucky Northern brew, mind you.John Whitham
C3D Moderator, South-eastern Orthodox (Home Counties) congress of 2007.
I usually drink Belgian, French or German beer
Bloodyell! Burn the Heathen!
stormchaser posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 9:01 PM
Quote - Hey! How did I get tied to a post??
jjroland - You'll have to read this thread to understand, just typical schoolboy humour!
www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php
jjroland posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 9:04 PM
lmao
and all this time with the battle raging I had no clue....
I am: aka Velocity3d
stormchaser posted Fri, 27 July 2007 at 9:08 PM
jj - So me & thefixer have been fighting for nothing!
vincebagna posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 12:47 AM
Oh well, i better understand all the avatar stuff now... So stormchaser, you've had enough of being turned around by the guys 'cause of your avatar, and you finally decided it was your time to turn around the ladies, and you choose jj as your victim! Does this site is turning into a meetic thing?? lol
Be aware to not be trapped by an avatar mistake, as yours was feminine but you are masculine...! :tt2:
stormchaser posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 6:00 AM
Vince - I know I'm not the only one who used the opposite sex in their avatar. You see, I only work with females in my scenes & I just wanted my avatar to reflect some of my owrk. You've seen the problem this causes though haven't you! It's like pjz99, a big contributor on this site. I could be wrong but I think that's a guy. I like the avatar but I originally thought he was a she. I quess we can't help thinking this way, we see a picture & then when that person comments we have that picture in our head. Look at ConnieKat8 & Acadia, believe it or not, they're not cats! No seriously though I'm sure this has caused confusion with many people avatars. The problem with people writing here on the forum is you can't always tell by the way that they write which sex they are. It's in no way a problem, just the way it is.
vincebagna posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 8:57 AM
Please, don't tell me Acadia IS NOT A CAT!!!! I just can't believe you! :blink:
For ConnieKat, i have no doubt she's a cat. Have you seen these huge deep eyes?? Such emotive, sensitive...
But i agree with you for the avatar thing. It's just like me: despite what my avatar let you think, i'm not a pyromaniac.
stormchaser posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 9:47 AM
Quote - despite what my avatar let you think, i'm not a pyromaniac.
Maybe you're not a pyromaniac (I was once called that at school but that's another story) but your avatar is pretty cool & artistic!
ice-boy posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 9:54 AM
can i import animations in vue from poser?
are vue renders better then poser?
thank you
vincebagna posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 9:54 AM
Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1418899
LOL! I felt in love with the render i made of him, so now i put him everywhere (my avatar, my web site is full of him, i used him for my main web banner, even on my phone!). Let's say, i'm completely crazy!!! :woot:
vincebagna posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 9:58 AM
ice-boy - Animations can be imported from Poser into Vue. And if you look at page 1 of this thread, you'll see what have been enumerate better than Poser (GI lighting, GR, ...).
stormchaser posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 10:04 AM
Vince, I swear I had commented on this picture just days after you uploaded it, it's superb. I think the gallery goblins deleted it! Anyway, I have commented again, it really deserves it.
thefixer posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 10:06 AM
*It's like pjz99, a big contributor on this site. I could be wrong but I think that's a guy
*I thought a girl!!! [shrug]
Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.
stormchaser posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 10:07 AM
thefixer - You're just girl crazy!! :biggrin:
ice-boy posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 10:12 AM
Quote - ice-boy - Animations can be imported from Poser into Vue. And if you look at page 1 of this thread, you'll see what have been enumerate better than Poser (GI lighting, GR, ...).
thank you.
what is the last vue version? vue 6?
vincebagna posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 10:14 AM
Thanks storm! 
thefixer - Remember: behind every girl avatar is a guy, and behind every guy avatar is a girl. Simple, isn't it? Behind cat avatar?... hu... a dog?
vincebagna posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 10:16 AM
Ice-boy - Take a look at www.e-onsoftware.com. You will find all the infos about the different versions of Vue: Vue6 Easel, Esprit, ProStudio, Infinite and X-Stream. And don't forget to try the PLE free version.
thefixer posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 10:17 AM
So now you're calling Acadia a "dog" that's not nice!!!
That is really bad over here!!
Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.
thefixer posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 10:19 AM
And by your definition, I'm a girl!!!
This is all getting very confusing, I think I need to go and try on that new dress I bought!!
Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.
vincebagna posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 10:20 AM
Hey! Acadia is not a dog nor a cat! She's... THE LINK QUEEN!!! :tt1:
ice-boy posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 10:21 AM
Quote - Ice-boy - Take a look at www.e-onsoftware.com. You will find all the infos about the different versions of Vue: Vue6 Easel, Esprit, ProStudio, Infinite and X-Stream. And don't forget to try the PLE free version.
thanks.
what about poser shaders? can they work in vue?
it would be awsome if i coud use bagginsbill's apollo shader.
vincebagna posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 10:23 AM
Quote - And by your definition, I'm a girl!!!
This is all getting very confusing, I think I need to go and try on that new dress I bought!!
And if it doesn't suit you, just turn your avatar into a sweety girly face, and you'll be able to wear a rude pair of trousers and spit on the ground (farts are optional...) LOL :lol:
jjroland posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 10:32 AM
""it would be awsome if i coud use bagginsbill's apollo shader.""
You can't Iceboy : ( God how I wish we could, but alas. What you could do though is nag him with the rest of us to make shaders for the other renderers = D.
From here on out that is the only shader I'll use for Apollo and since I refuse to render anything meaningful in poser now, yeah it sucks.
Pjz is a boy : p
But you wouldn't know it with his amazing ability to make real women.
I am: aka Velocity3d
vincebagna posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 10:35 AM
lol!
It will turn into a hunt to find the genre of the other! :biggrin:
ice-boy posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 10:36 AM
Quote - ""it would be awsome if i coud use bagginsbill's apollo shader.""
You can't Iceboy : ( God how I wish we could, but alas. What you could do though is nag him with the rest of us to make shaders for the other renderers = D.
From here on out that is the only shader I'll use for Apollo and since I refuse to render anything meaningful in poser now, yeah it sucks.
Pjz is a boy : p
But you wouldn't know it with his amazing ability to make real women.
they say you can import it
Importing Poser characters into Vue means that the original Poser materials need to be converted into Vue materials. This inevitably means that many shaders loose their original characteristics in the conversion process.
To overcome this limitation, e-on software and efrontier have developed an advanced bridging technology that enables Vue to use Poser’s internal shader tree when rendering Poser materials.
This technology ensures Poser characters will have the same look inside Vue as they had in Poser, and makes it easier to achieve the perfect results when rendering Poser characters inside Vue.**
thefixer posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 10:41 AM
Importing Poser characters into Vue means that the original Poser materials need to be converted into Vue materials. This inevitably means that many shaders loose their original characteristics in the conversion process.
To overcome this limitation, e-on software and efrontier have developed an advanced bridging technology that enables Vue to use Poser’s internal shader tree when rendering Poser materials.
This technology ensures Poser characters will have the same look inside Vue as they had in Poser, and makes it easier to achieve the perfect results when rendering Poser characters inside Vue.*
*Be warned, I have a pretty good system with 2 Gig of RAM and using the Poser Shader Tree inside Vue6Inf brings it to it's knees! This is well known, there are many threads in the Vue forum about this!
I'm currently pricing up a new system with 8 Gig RAM to get over this issue!!
Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.
vincebagna posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 10:42 AM
Yep, but Bill's apollo shader is far away too complicated for Vue to handle it right through the PoserShaderTree.
ice-boy posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 10:51 AM
then i will ahve to use soem vue settings.
stormchaser posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 10:53 AM
I may have to drop the shader tree in my Vue work now. I need to move onto more complex scenes & I don't think my 1GB RAM will handle everything. Trial & error as usual I think.
BTW, I'm thinking of uploading photos of thefixer in his dress into the gallery. Think it'll pass the TOS!! :scared:
thefixer posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 10:56 AM
Only if you don't show my hairy nips!!
Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.
stormchaser posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 10:57 AM
Quote - Only if you don't show my hairy nips!!
Damn, I'll have to change the thumbnail now!
ice-boy posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 11:20 AM
bagginsbill's apollo shader wont work then i need to find out something else. is there somethign to download?
jjroland posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 11:25 AM
for?
I am: aka Velocity3d
ice-boy posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 11:30 AM
Quote - for?
some realistic skin shader for vue. i am now looking at skinvue. is this free?
Dale B posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 11:37 AM
Nope, SkinVue is not a freebie. However, it is well worth the money, as it can not only generate procedural skins, but modify the imported skin texture with a Poser figure, letting you take a high res texture and really reducing the detail level in a paint program, and still keep the basic tones you wanted. Be aware that SkinVue is also designed to be modular, and there are for purchase modules to expand the figures that it can process easily. You can find out the detail at Cornucopia3D, and David Burdick has a website that gets more into details of how Skinvue works.
ice-boy posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 11:46 AM
thanks. i will stay in poser only because of the apollo shader.
vincebagna posted Sat, 28 July 2007 at 3:29 PM
Be aware too that SkinVue only works with Vue Infinite.
stormchaser posted Sun, 29 July 2007 at 6:40 AM
I've just been going through some of my old work I've done in Poser & Vue over the months, you know all the test work that you do. Anyway, I found this I did earlier in the year. I was testing Vue's Global Radiosity using the amazing Stonemason's 'The Ministry'. I just thought I'd upload it here to show anyone who's interested how well GR works in Vue. I don't think I could have got a result like this in Poser. If anyone out there can, please tell me how!
