byAnton opened this issue on Jul 30, 2007 · 42 posts
byAnton posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 6:28 PM
Hi there,
I just finished the last Harry Potter book and I want to add a priceless quote by Molly Weasly to my signature.
She calls someone a Bitch though. Is bitch allowed in signatures? Literally, not figuratively. :)
Cheers. :)
Anton
-Anton, creator of Apollo Maximus
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
Khai posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 6:31 PM
I really thought she was gonna quote Ripley then ;)
SamTherapy posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 6:32 PM
Why not? Bitch is not profanity, as far as I'm aware. I know it is - or was - a taboo word in the USA for a long time but it never really enjoyed that status here, even though both of us use it a a derogatory term.
As for language advisories in signatures generally, have you translated mine, Anton? :)
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
stormchaser posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 6:40 PM
I can't work that one out Sam. Has it got anything to do with two men & a woman in a boat?
RAMWorks posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 6:40 PM
To avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing - Elbert Hubbard
---Wolff On The Prowl---
geoegress posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 6:41 PM
Well, The supreme court says TV rules are if it has dual meanings then it's ok to use.
Bitch is a female dog :)
good luck
stormchaser posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 6:43 PM
Quote - do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing
Sounds like my Sunday mornings.
SamTherapy posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 6:44 PM
Quote - I can't work that one out Sam. Has it got anything to do with two men & a woman in a boat?
Translates as "Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke".
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
RAMWorks posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 6:46 PM
Ooooo, I like that one. I always say Fuck 'em if they can't take a hard one. Meaning whiney people get on my nerves. Times are tough (and times are tough sometimes) but folks love to moan and whine instead of getting busy to change what it is they can change!!!
---Wolff On The Prowl---
Acadia posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 6:48 PM
I suspect that the word would not be acceptable in a signature.
Yes it is the term used to describe a female dog, however, it is also a profanity meant in a derogatory sense. And when people call someone a "Bitch", it's meant in a derogatory sense.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
RAMWorks posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 6:50 PM
HEY now... I've been in heat before. I'm a wolff!! 
---Wolff On The Prowl---
stormchaser posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 6:52 PM
Quote - Fuck 'em if they can't take a hard one.
That has got to be a porn movie title, it's just got to be!! :woot:
RAMWorks posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 6:57 PM
I'm not aware. I don't watch porn!! 
I know, I know, what sort of queer am I. I don't date, don't watch porn then what do I do?? Not tellin'!! 
---Wolff On The Prowl---
SamTherapy posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 7:11 PM
Nope, "jocularum" = joke, humour, humorous aside, funny comment.
The root of the words jocular and joke, also corrupted for "joshing", meaning to have a joke, make fun of.
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
Khai posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 8:02 PM
Quote - I'm not aware. I don't watch porn!!
your such a baaa-d boy..
runs for cover
Acadia posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 8:11 PM
Quote -
runs for cover
Feeling a bit sheepish are you? :tongue1:
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
RAMWorks posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 8:15 PM
"Are you a good witch or are you a bad witch"
"Why I'm not a bitch at all"
MUCH!!
---Wolff On The Prowl---
jjroland posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 8:18 PM
""I'm not aware. I don't watch porn!! 
I know, I know, what sort of queer am I. I don't date, don't watch porn then what do I do??""
I don't date or watch porn either. Of course I have a significant other so there is no need to date, hmm I suppose that goes the same for watching porn. Digital porn is a whole different ball of was though - but I wont get into my philosophies behind this.
Anyway as far as "bitch" goes, I think it should be allowed. I'm probably wrong : p
I am: aka Velocity3d
pakled posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 9:25 PM
what about the '49% bitch, 51% sweetheart, don't push it'..;)? or am I showing my age?
I have the 'charm of making' in my sig, but I don't know what sort of language that is..;)
I've seen porn before. It's just like Fred Astaire movies, except all the dancing is horizontal..;)
I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit
anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)
infinity10 posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 9:25 PM
Use the replacement " female dog" for the word "bitch" and see if it riles anyone. Or use the Chiense translation.
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Conniekat8 posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 11:02 PM
Quote - I'm not aware. I don't watch porn!!
goodie-two-shoes ;)
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RAMWorks posted Tue, 31 July 2007 at 12:02 AM
Acadia posted Tue, 31 July 2007 at 12:05 AM
Quote - I know, I know, what sort of queer am I. I don't date, don't watch porn then what do I do??
I know! I know! You're a crazy cat lady!!!
Oh wait a minute! That's me 
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
RAMWorks posted Tue, 31 July 2007 at 12:08 AM
I'm allergic to kitties, I love the canine family most and I'm not allergic!! 
---Wolff On The Prowl---
byAnton posted Tue, 31 July 2007 at 12:17 AM
I have never once heard anyone use bitch in casual conversation speaking of dogs.
Anyway, I love that scene in the book. She is refering to another woman.
Not quite sure when we got talking about porn or why. :)
Side note. I have a funny story......
Years ago during a typical PoserPros flame war, Calypso was harshly chain lecturing merchants about her views on proper merchant professionalism and conduct in threads.
Merrilyn Ellison came after her post and reminded her that she was a merchant herself and might be a hypocrite to which the very next response by Calypso to Merrilyn in the thread was ...
"Fuck off Bitch!"
I was pretty priceless. Sort of put the whole "I think.." crowd into perspective. Just another great moment in Poser history. :)
-Anton, creator of Apollo Maximus
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
infinity10 posted Tue, 31 July 2007 at 12:19 AM
Yoicks, let's get a language advisory on that one. Actually, if anyone looked at my homepage on Renderosity, I've been using that B-word in my page title. Could have used it on my sig, but had wondered if that would be coming across too strongly for some folk.
Eternal Hobbyist
KarenJ posted Tue, 31 July 2007 at 2:17 AM
Hahahaha :-) Anton, that's priceless!
Just popping in to let youse know that we're discussing this in the staff forum. So far we're sort of split down the middle.
Anton, what's the full quote? Might help us decide.
BTW, I've heard "bitch" used to mean a female dog quite often, although generally by dog owner-breeders.
"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan
Shire
ashley9803 posted Tue, 31 July 2007 at 3:39 AM
I'd just do it and see what happens.
Then again, my life is full of bad decisions.
Have we really come to the stage that we are afraid of offending someone with such a mild word; not directed at anyone? God save us, (guess life's such a bitch)
Silke posted Tue, 31 July 2007 at 4:34 AM
Ok.
Harry Potter is for which agegroup? 9-12 year olds I think?
If the editor / publisher let that one through in a book aimed at children, then I don't see anything wrong with using the quote for a signature.
Silke
stormchaser posted Tue, 31 July 2007 at 5:48 AM
Quote - I've seen porn before. It's just like Fred Astaire movies, except all the dancing is horizontal..;)
Fred Astaire will never be seen in the same light again now!
stormchaser posted Tue, 31 July 2007 at 5:51 AM
I'll tell you something. If anyone is offended by the word 'bitch' they need to seriously take stock of their life!
Angelshigh posted Tue, 31 July 2007 at 7:35 AM
Quote - I have never once heard anyone use bitch in casual conversation speaking of dogs.
Anyway, I love that scene in the book. She is refering to another woman.
Not quite sure when we got talking about porn or why. :)
Perhaps it may be peculiar to me then, but I always use the word bitch when talking about my female dog. I own both sexes, and it makes it easier to say that I have "A bitch and a dog". To me a dog is always male. I once had a friend who always referred to her bitch as a "Lady Dog" and I was more offended by that than by the word bitch :)
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I just call them "boy-dogs" and "girl-dogs"...
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vincebagna posted Tue, 31 July 2007 at 9:20 AM
What about she-dog? I think we can say she-cat, so why not?
SamTherapy posted Tue, 31 July 2007 at 9:25 AM
Quote - What about she-dog? I think we can say she-cat, so why not?
The correct name for a female domestic cat (in the UK at least) is Queen; the male is known as a Tom.
And here goes with another can of worms. :D
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
kalon posted Tue, 31 July 2007 at 9:35 AM
No decision yet?
For years in the US, you've been able to hear the word bitch said and sung on the radio (EJ's Bitch is Back); it's said on TV, in the movies and now is being quoted from a "children's" book...
It's truly bizarre that this even warrants discussion...
vincebagna posted Tue, 31 July 2007 at 9:46 AM
Years ago, when i was in English classroom (remember i'm French), everybody were laughing loudly when someone had to repeat after the teacher "Yesterday, i went to the beach" but with the wrong accent...
jjroland posted Tue, 31 July 2007 at 11:40 AM
""It's truly bizarre that this even warrants discussion...""
Agreed. Sitcoms that air during "family hour" are even allowed to use this word.
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Conniekat8 posted Tue, 31 July 2007 at 11:50 AM
Quote - > Quote - I know, I know, what sort of queer am I. I don't date, don't watch porn then what do I do??
I know! I know! You're a crazy cat lady!!!
Oh wait a minute! That's me
Mee too! Love that smiley :) Looks like my alarm clock: mommy mommy, I'm hungryyy head butt and a paw swat on the face, at exact same time every morning.
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RAMWorks posted Tue, 31 July 2007 at 2:44 PM
Awwwwwwwwwwww!! Cute little emoticon!! CUTE CUTE CUTE!! Is that a Tom or a Queen I wonder?? LOL
---Wolff On The Prowl---
Conniekat8 posted Tue, 31 July 2007 at 11:26 PM
There are two kitties in there, one of each... If you look really carefully you'll see!
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byAnton posted Wed, 01 August 2007 at 2:21 AM
The character is dueling Bellatrix. The exact quote by Molly Weasly is "NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU BITCH!" In the context of the scene it is a great moment in the series. I suppose by itself it seems a bit odd of a quote but I love Molly.
OT: The books where designed to evolve as the fan base aged. Where the original was for a younger crowd, the series is now wriiten at adult level to adults as well. It is actually the only inccident of harsh language in the entire series.
-Anton, creator of Apollo Maximus
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."