Forum: Vue


Subject: Making waves

decadence opened this issue on Aug 15, 2007 · 34 posts


decadence posted Wed, 15 August 2007 at 9:31 AM

Could anybody recommend a tutorial or point out how to create waves rolling on a beach? I'm using Vue 6 and there is a texture for foaming water but no matter what I do I can't seem to rotate the waves (texture) in the direction of the beach. Right now the waves run parallel to the beach instead of perpendicular. The waves don't have to be crashing waves, just need some foam/white water where the water meets the beach.

Thanks in advance!


BAR-CODE posted Wed, 15 August 2007 at 9:34 AM

Mmmm I too do like to know ..but like to ad that i wish to know how to do it without any tool/plugin that cost me money 😉

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dburdick posted Wed, 15 August 2007 at 11:43 AM

Here's a tutorial on how to create something like this:

http://www.skinvue.net/Tutorials/BeachShore.htm


BAR-CODE posted Wed, 15 August 2007 at 12:42 PM

Thnx for the link looks good ..

Anybody knows some good way to make the wave terains ?
Its so strange all kind of styles for making dune's moon craters etc etc .. but no sea wave's ..

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decadence posted Wed, 15 August 2007 at 12:50 PM

Perfect! Thanks so much. I'll give it a try.

Barcode you could make a wave terrain simply by using photoshop or other making blurry vertical or horizontal rows. Create using black and white or shades of gray and save. Use that pic and import it into your terrain editor in vue....


BAR-CODE posted Wed, 15 August 2007 at 12:54 PM

That way of doing it i knew "teragen" allready ... i was wondering if someone knew a way of doing it in vue..

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Monsoon posted Wed, 15 August 2007 at 2:03 PM

Same way in Vue....or any app that uses heighfield terrain modeling.  Make your grayscale wave pattern. In Vue terrain editor, click 'reset' on the left, then 'picture' down below that and import your image. You can fiddle on your own from there. If there are artifacts, press 'diffuse' erosion a couple of times...


dburdick posted Thu, 16 August 2007 at 12:59 AM

By the way, if you're looking for some great terrains/maps for waves you should check out Monsoon's SeaVue product at 3DCommune.  I use it all the time.


Monsoon posted Thu, 16 August 2007 at 4:17 AM

LOL...and with SkinVue you can actually go for a dip and get all glisteny and silky wet...it's a perfect match!!


FrankT posted Thu, 16 August 2007 at 5:35 AM

Ooo now there's an idea for a render . . .  :)

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decadence posted Thu, 16 August 2007 at 12:18 PM

Quote - That way of doing it i knew "teragen" allready ... i was wondering if someone knew a way of doing it in vue..

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Ummm I was talking about doing it in VUE


BAR-CODE posted Thu, 16 August 2007 at 12:24 PM

Ummm I was talking about doing it in VUE

What i meant was just like the way we can make terrain now with dune's, moon, etc etc
I wish they made a water waves option ..like we can make gritt and stones now..
So doing it in Vue with no need to make anything in a other program...

Chris 
In teragen "old version" i did use a lot of image to make terrains ....

 

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Monsoon posted Thu, 16 August 2007 at 1:23 PM

You can.....(depending on what version of Vue you have).  Vue 6 Infinite allows you to take an image and use it as a brush on the terrains . However, you still have to make that image in an outside app.  You could even just reset the terrain, set the rock hardness up to snuff and use the raise painting tool to make your ripples or waves or whatever...


BAR-CODE posted Thu, 16 August 2007 at 1:28 PM

However, you still have to make that image in an outside app.  You could even just reset the terrain, set the rock hardness up to snuff and use the raise painting tool to make your ripples or waves or whatever...

Now THATS a good TIP !!
It realy is and works fine, i just tryed it .... 
And playing with all the tools makes it random every time again
you see this is a such a tip for millons 😉 

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megalodon posted Thu, 16 August 2007 at 11:46 PM

Quote - Here's a tutorial on how to create something like this:

http://www.skinvue.net/Tutorials/BeachShore.htm

 

Excellent tutorial and beautiful image!

Thanks!


arrow1 posted Sat, 18 August 2007 at 5:48 PM

Many thanks for a great tutorial.Is there any advice available on animating the water rolling onto the beach back and forth? Cheers

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forester posted Sun, 19 August 2007 at 5:35 PM

Attached Link: Wave Effects by Matt Hausman

For anyone interested in how difficult it is to make waves, the rolling combers, even among the professional CG folks, I commend this article to you. Despite this being posted on the Surf's Up cartooney web site, this is a very professional, and concise description of the technical strategies and processes that had to be employed to create a realistic simulation of rolling comber waves. You might want to make note of the length of time, the number of tools and the number of people involved in creating this kind of thing. WARNING! This article is not for the faint-of-heart! But this should be read by everyone: it helps provide some perspective on the difficulty of this kind of enterprise.



arrow1 posted Sun, 19 August 2007 at 5:57 PM

Many thanks.I see what you mean that the making waves tutorials is not for th faint-of- heart.I wonder if Vue 6 Infinity could handle this option? Cheers

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Mazedog posted Sun, 19 August 2007 at 7:06 PM

Wow, I was just trying to figure out how to make waves in water earlier today.  I was looking through the Vue tutorials on this site, and there are some there that I’ve been trying to work through. But the one linked by dburdick above is great, because it leverages Vue 6’s new capabilities.

 

If you don’t have Vue 6 yet, I would take the excellent advice offered here in the forums, and look at the tutorials that are here as well. 


forester posted Sun, 19 August 2007 at 7:36 PM

I'll be trying to create a mesh for a rolling comber, much like the basic one they created in this movie. But, it will take me awhile. It will static, at first, of course.



BAR-CODE posted Mon, 20 August 2007 at 7:25 AM

Mmmm being non English ...what the banana's is a :Roling comder ????
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forester posted Mon, 20 August 2007 at 10:12 AM

This is a "rolling comber." "Rolling" for the shape of the wave as it rolls over onto the water below. A "comber" is an old American word for a wave that is extra long (linear length perpendicular to the beach). Some very flat beaches with shallow shelving into the ocean produce such waves. Surfers also call these "pipes", and we like them because they make dramatic pictures.



Peggy_Walters posted Mon, 20 August 2007 at 11:24 AM

Hi forester - I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you will make some waves.  That would be great!

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chippwalters posted Mon, 20 August 2007 at 3:16 PM

Quote - Could anybody recommend a tutorial or point out how to create waves rolling on a beach?

You're welcome to check out my SeaVue tutorial. It uses Monsoon's excellent SeaVue pack to create waves rolling onto a beach.

best, Chipp

 


forester posted Mon, 20 August 2007 at 4:19 PM

Hi Peggy. Yes I am going to push this to the head of my "to do list" - now that I know that even the pro's do it the way I first made mine. One of the techs was good enough to send me some quick images of their wire frames, and I think I can do something like this, perhaps, with a more reasonable poly count. (Just right after I finish these cornfields and rice paddy models that Christie wanted for C3D. Ugh!) Not to compete with Monsoon's stuff or other techniques. Just to get some good models for reasonable - any persepctive close-up scenes.



Peggy_Walters posted Mon, 20 August 2007 at 4:31 PM

You can never have too many plants, materials, castles, or waves!  This will complement Moonsoon's SeaVue package perfectly.

Cornfields!  Yeah!!!

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forester posted Mon, 20 August 2007 at 4:37 PM

Totally OFF-Topic



forester posted Mon, 20 August 2007 at 4:38 PM

The denser stuff, with independent rows and indendent component parts... and the high-resolution stalks (with corn ears) are on their way. Thanks for the encouragement, Peggy, I needed that!



Peggy_Walters posted Mon, 20 August 2007 at 6:23 PM

Looks great!

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ellocolobo posted Mon, 20 August 2007 at 10:18 PM

A very good, cheap and easy way to make good sea scapes is:  produce a simple mountain..Strech it on the x and lower the y until you get the size of waves you want..Apply a water material..Open the beer and surf..


dburdick posted Tue, 21 August 2007 at 10:53 AM

Here's an example of using SeaVue along with Vue's new layered material capabilities to create larger roiling type seas.  I smudged the wave top foam a bit in PSP, but the wave terrains and materials are all standard SeaVue.


Peggy_Walters posted Tue, 21 August 2007 at 11:11 AM

That looks fantastic!  I've got to find some time to play with layered materials!

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chippwalters posted Tue, 21 August 2007 at 12:28 PM

Now, all you need to do is add a bit of turbulence. (just kidding!)
Looks great :-)

 


forester posted Tue, 21 August 2007 at 6:34 PM

Yes, an excellent composition and rendering! Good for you!