Forum: Carrara


Subject: Is Poser still required to create content that will work in DazStudio & Carrara?

darrenlc opened this issue on Oct 15, 2007 · 11 posts


darrenlc posted Mon, 15 October 2007 at 9:08 PM

I recall seeing this addressed elsewhere but I don't recall where.  Anyway, I have Poser 4 but I would prefer not to even install it unless necessary.

I want to create characters/clothing that will work in DazStudio and Carrara.  As for clothing I want to make both conforming clothing and dynamic.  Must I reinstall Poser 4 for the conforming clothing or (gulp) upgrade to Poser 5 in order to create dynamic clothing? 

I read somewhere that Daz will eventually release a plugin/update to Carrara that will allow the usage of the dynamic cloth from Poser.  If I wait for this will I be able to do what I am wanting without using Poser or should I just bite the bullet and upgrade?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
  Darren


Tashar59 posted Mon, 15 October 2007 at 10:17 PM

Carrara can bone/rig but it can't be used in DS or Poser. If you used Poser4 to rig, you can then use that in DS, Poser and Carrara.

Daz's Dynamic cloth plugin is a SOON thing, so who knows what year and Daz has said that the DS plug will be first then the one for Carrara, though that might have changed. The plug won't be able to use Poser cloths, which seems a bit wierd because Poser Dynamic cloth is just an .obj. Also from what Daz has said, you will have to buy the Dynamic cloth creation plug if you want to make your own.

So you can wait for whenever Daz gets around to a limited plug or upgrade to a newer version of Poser. I would suggest P6 at the least P7 if you can afford it. The cloth room is better than P5. You will have to decide for yourself which is better for you.

To Daz or not, that is the question.


Miss Nancy posted Mon, 15 October 2007 at 10:53 PM

in regard to whether we still need poser, I can say "yes". as an example, if anybody would like a good laff, just try opening one of the poser snakes (cr2 files that come with P7) in c6pro. apparently the "curve" parameter somehow escaped their vigilance.



Paloth posted Fri, 19 October 2007 at 11:05 AM

I just tried out my steed's easypose tail in Carrara. I'm not laughing.

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Tashar59 posted Fri, 19 October 2007 at 2:24 PM

I have not had a chance to start up easypose yet. I'm still installing to my new computer and waiting for some extra ram to show up.

How about an image to see what you mean. I would hate to think that anything done with easypose will be a problem in Carrara.


Paloth posted Fri, 19 October 2007 at 11:44 PM

This is a Poser file opened and rendered in Carrara. The tail curves smoothly in Poser and in Daz Studio, but Carrara seems to have a problem.

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bwtr posted Sat, 20 October 2007 at 12:26 AM

Clothing, for a lot of Poser stuff, has been made in Carrara (3!)---going way back ---obviously.

It's all in the mind-----Carrara is a "making" app!

bwtr


Tashar59 posted Sun, 21 October 2007 at 12:59 AM

bwtr, sorry but it's not in the mind. You can model the clothing mesh in Carrara, if you like using Carrara's modeling tools, but you can not rig the clothing in Carrara and have it work in Poser or DS. You need poser to do that. 

Paloth, that is wierd. Are limits turned off? Not good either way for content creators. I model most of my own stuff now, I became a Modo junkie, after the disappointment of Hex 2.2 and use poser and easypose for most of my rigging.

Have you shown this to Daz? Do they even care? I have noticed the last year that they think work arounds are fixes and blame poser for any problems first.


Paloth posted Sun, 21 October 2007 at 10:49 AM

Are limits turned off? I hadn’t set any limits for the tail parts since it’s not likely that a user would go wrong with the easypose dials. I haven’t reported the issue to Daz because it's hard for me to go there. In any case, Mrs. Nacy’s comment leads me to believe that the missing curve parameter is a known issue

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Tashar59 posted Sun, 21 October 2007 at 9:56 PM

Now I understand what Miss Nacy meant. So the question would be, Will Daz fix this and in what year.


Paloth posted Mon, 22 October 2007 at 12:30 AM

I hope they fix it soon. One would think that there would be an incentive to get this right considering the number of tailed beasties sold at Daz.

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