I've been trying to learn the ropes with poser and I"m doing ok but I'm tired of creating images like this one I am wanting to learn some techniques to make more realistic renders. I would like to be able to eventually create images like these: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1544826 http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1544931 Can anyone point out some good tutorials that would teach me how to do that? I don't even know where to begin to learn to do that. When I look at the galleries here I see how so many of the renders look so lifelike and I want to achieve that and have no clue how it's done. I've searched through the tutorials here but I didn't see any that pertained to creating realistic faces and characters but maybe that's because I don't even know the correct wording for it to be able to find what I need. I sure would appreciate any direction any of you great artists can give me. thanks in advance Kelli