enigmafox opened this issue on Nov 05, 2007 · 19 posts
enigmafox posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 9:28 AM
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1540525
This is a really great render, but is this possible in Poser? maybe im just new, but I haven't seen it look like this yet. Is it due to texture or lighting?
Inputs, thoughts?
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Acadia posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 9:33 AM
Yes, looks that way to me. A background with a figure and suitcase. The figure looks "softened" and could have been done using gausian blur during the render, or a soften or slight blur in post work using a plugin.
IMHO the background is too blury for the image though, especially the upper portion of it. I would love to know the outfit used as I love shear, wispy things like that.
The lighting is nice. Lights will either make or break your image. I put together a list of links to lighting tutorials. See this thread. I strongly suggest Olivier's poser 6 lighting tutorials over at RDNA.
http://market.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2662390
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pjz99 posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 9:38 AM
The background is a bitmap, the shadows cast by the character and suitcase don't match the background pic at all. The only parts that were actually rendered by Poser were the suitcase and the character/clothing/umbrella.
vincebagna posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 9:42 AM
For the outfit it seems to be the dress of Aery Soul's Charmed Myst and the Kikas Angel bra.
enigmafox posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 9:42 AM
Quote - Yes, looks that way to me. A background with a figure and suitcase. The figure looks "softened" and could have been done using gausian blur during the render, or a soften or slight blur in post work using a plugin.
IMHO the background is too blury for the image though, especially the upper portion of it. I would love to know the outfit used as I love shear, wispy things like that.
The lighting is nice. Lights will either make or break your image. I put together a list of links to lighting tutorials. See this thread. I strongly suggest Olivier's poser 6 lighting tutorials over at RDNA.
http://market.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2662390
i figured the background was not rendered, Thanks for the link, It's driving me nuts, that is the type of look i want for all my characters, buts its hard to find.
What would you call that significant look? I would say soft clay, but thats just my opinion, I've seen a few other pictures on the web that is like that too
Like this site for example they all have it, that "look" Im looking for
http://www.streepstreet.com/anime-2005/10-12-3D.html
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Acadia posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 10:05 AM
Are you wanting to know how to make the background blurry while keeping the figure "crisp"? If so that is done using filters in post work. Gausian or zoom blurs, softening etc.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
Acadia posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 10:06 AM
Quote - For the outfit it seems to be the dress of Aery Soul's Charmed Myst and the Kikas Angel bra.
Thanks! Charmed Myst is now in my wishlist. I just shopped a bit last night so now I have to wait until the end of the month. Maybe it will be on sale by then crosses fingers hehe
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others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
enigmafox posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 10:07 AM
Quote - Are you wanting to know how to make the background blurry while keeping the figure "crisp"? If so that is done using filters in post work. Gausian or zoom blurs, softening etc.
Oh no the background isn't important.
I want to get that certain lighting effect on the character, I am just wondering if its textures as well or just lighting to get that certain effect on their skin. and clothes
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vincebagna posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 10:08 AM
Quote - > Quote - For the outfit it seems to be the dress of Aery Soul's Charmed Myst and the Kikas Angel bra.
Thanks! Charmed Myst is now in my wishlist. I just shopped a bit last night so now I have to wait until the end of the month. Maybe it will be on sale by then crosses fingers hehe
To my knowledge AS doesn't put their products on sale. But they have raise down the prices of the "oldest" products.
Acadia posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 10:32 AM
Quote - > Quote - Are you wanting to know how to make the background blurry while keeping the figure "crisp"? If so that is done using filters in post work. Gausian or zoom blurs, softening etc.
Oh no the background isn't important.
I want to get that certain lighting effect on the character, I am just wondering if its textures as well or just lighting to get that certain effect on their skin. and clothes
Lighting would be my bet.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
pjz99 posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 10:33 AM
The lighting looks like a very nice Image Based Lighting setup. You might just PM RGUS and ask, he's pretty friendly :)
SSAfam1 posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 10:35 AM
Quote - > Quote - Are you wanting to know how to make the background blurry while keeping the figure "crisp"? If so that is done using filters in post work. Gausian or zoom blurs, softening etc.
Oh no the background isn't important.
I want to get that certain lighting effect on the character, I am just wondering if its textures as well or just lighting to get that certain effect on their skin. and clothes
I don't think it's the lighting giving her that soft glow. Take the render into a 2D paint program. Pant white in certain areas, blur it, and then use layer properites such as as "soft light" and you can get that glow. Definately done in postwork.
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/tutorial/index.php?tutorial_id=992&page=12
Here's another way:
http://poserpros.daz3d.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1909
rofocale posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 10:40 AM
Try 4blueeyes lightset at DAZ, for similar results.
flibbits posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 11:50 AM
Someone mentioned the shadows. The shadow on the girl is behind her, while the shadows on the trees are in front of them, the opposite direction.
A little care with lights and shadow would make the pic a lot better.
I still think it looks terrific and hope I can do as well some day.
bnetta posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 12:00 PM
enigmafox posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 12:40 PM
Quote - you mean something like this?
the soft ness of the clothes with the white halo effect?
netta
all done in daz studio -no post work
this is done with a velvet shader applied.
No that look is completely diffrent
More similar to the girl i posted above with the white shirt and black skirt
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stormchaser posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 12:55 PM
enigmafox - I've noticed you've been in the Vue forum. Getting this effect is probably best done in Vue, superb Global Illumination & Global Radiosity gives you much better realistic light & shadows to work with. Also, postwork in Photoshop can give you an added soft, glow effect.
enigmafox posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 12:58 PM
Quote - enigmafox - I've noticed you've been in the Vue forum. Getting this effect is probably best done in Vue, superb Global Illumination & Global Radiosity gives you much better realistic light & shadows to work with. Also, postwork in Photoshop can give you an added soft, glow effect.
Oh yes, that too, If anything i can just import everything to vue, I might have to do that anyways since I usually like vue for its landscapes and such..
Thanks
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fls13 posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 3:32 PM
Quote - Are you wanting to know how to make the background blurry while keeping the figure "crisp"? If so that is done using filters in post work. Gausian or zoom blurs, softening etc.
Another way to do the same thing is blur the background pic before the rendering, no monkeying with masks and such then.