ahudson opened this issue on Nov 05, 2007 · 105 posts
ahudson posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 9:59 AM
I had to reinstall my runtimes. I hated it. it took forever!!! By the time I was one quater the way through I needed a retread on my mouse finger!!!
I wrote a program to do it for me so I could sip coffee and watch the computer do what they are meant to do i.e. do stuff for you!
I thought others might have the same problems so I am making it available free, gratis and for nothing. All I ask is a "hey, I'm using it" email.
It installs content delivered in zip files or the newer Daz installers and it endeavours to tidy the readmes into one folder too. It will install one, two or HUNDREDS of content ZIP files or Daz installers all in one go.
http://www.hud.org.uk/installer.zip
Try it, I love it!
Gareee posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 10:26 AM
wouldn;t it be far easier to just back up your runtimes on DVDs, and then just copy them from the DVDs back onto the system?
With multiple runtimes, management is far easier then using one massive runtime.
Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.
ahudson posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 11:07 AM
Gareee,
Of course. And I do have many small runtimes... but I wanted to reorganise them and this was my solution. Delete everything and reinstall into many (new) runtimes.
Cheers!
Gareee posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 11:54 AM
ah.. that makes good sense then.. and I'm sure there are people who will benefit from this!
Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.
momodot posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 1:53 PM
Hi. Thank you. I can't wait to check this out. I was in the process of reorganizing my runtime and I made a mess of it. I think I need to re-install but I could not face the task.
Some time ago I had dumped all my geometries and textures into the main runtime because Poser could not find them in the many seperate runtimes I have even with search set to "deep" but then I tried to move the geometry and textures back into the seperate runtimes so I could use some clothing and texture conversion utilities that couldn't handle this set-up and I made a big mess of it.
Now I have all the geometry and textures back in the main runtime and the other runtimes set for absolute paths but it is all a mess and I am running out of memory and need to cull my runtimes or better yet just re-install them judisciously. I may have to wait till I get an external drive to back-up on since all this would be hell to back up on CDs.
I am curious, does your Daz installer unpacker dump to seperate folders or to the main runtime? I would sure love an app that would dump the Daz installers into seperate folders so I could zip them and archive the zips. The zips would be easier to manage then these .exe files I can't look into.
Purely of idle curriosity, why don't the earlier Daz installers work with your app? Can you explain to a lay person what these Daz installers are anyway?
In ancase, thank you so much for sharing. I have always wanted something that could batch run Daz installers.
ahudson posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 2:10 PM
Quote - I am curious, does your Daz installer unpacker dump to seperate folders or to the main runtime? I would sure love an app that would dump the Daz installers into seperate folders so I could zip them and archive the zips. The zips would be easier to manage then these .exe files I can't look into.
Purely of idle curriosity, why don't the earlier Daz installers work with your app? Can you explain to a lay person what these Daz installers are anyway?
In ancase, thank you so much for sharing. I have always wanted something that could batch run Daz installers.
Well, I hope it helps for you. To answer your queries, it will install to any folder you wish. All will come clear when you read the readme included with the program, but briefly, you set up a list in test file of all of your different runtimes (they need not exist before you runt the program) for example:
D:RuntimesV4
D:RuntimesProps
C:Program Filese frontierPoser 7
Then, you put the install files that you want to install to a particular one of the above runtimes into a folder and run the program. You choose which runtime this run is for and let it rip..
The reason it cant deal with earlier Daz installers and what a Daz installer is:
A Daz installer is the thing you receive from Daz when you buy something from them. Its like a normal program installer with a wizard interface etc. Daz have had several of these over the years each with a slightly different wizard. My program runs the installer and then drives the wizard interface automatically. It has to recognise each wizard page so it knows where it is and what button to press next. If it doesnt understand the wizard, because it is one of the earlier Daz installers it "gets confused" and stops. (actually, it only pauses and lets you take over that particular install, after which you can continue with the rest).
I use mostly V4 so I have mostly the newer, most recent installers, I could make it work with the earlier stuff from Daz but it simply takes time. If anyone really wants it then I will do it.
Cheers
KarenJ posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 2:22 PM
Thanks very much for this. I'm hoping to replace my current rig fairly soon and starting with some fresh runtimes sounds like a good idea!
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Ardiva posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 3:04 PM
momodot posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 3:17 PM
I am thinking about this thing, the runtimes file organization of libraries by file type and storage of resources has not made sense since Poser 3. Now I have a muddle of runtimes where the geometry is either in the Geometries or a Library sub-folder. The textures are in hard to track down cryptically named Texture sub-directories, and even major vendors will have parts of a scene in Figure, Prop, Pose and Materials sub-folders that have inconsistant folder names.
What would be radical would be an application that by-passed the need to install in a linked runtime at all! An interface that would let you load content into a scene from sub-directories of contant as downloaded or un-zipped into folders containing their own individual runtime structure. Could you imagine clicking on an un-compressed product runtime from an explorer interface and having figures, props and poses available in one window!!!
I could just organize my content external to any runtime and have the app read the geometry, textures and .cr2s into the scene on-demand. I wonder if this could be done by the app loading the runtime sub-directory from the product folder into a Tempoary Runtime such as the "Downloads" runtime, setting up a content tab, and then clearing that runtime at the close of the session if desired. The only thing I would want is for the loader to allow one to browse from a directory tree and even better to have a thumbnail display and a file search feature.
Maybe a system where at the start of a project you could drag copies of the content you intend to use and it would be automatically set up as a temporary project runtime you can delete when you are finished with it. I was doing this manually for a while but got lazy about it and allowed my runtime to get clogged up and massive.
Could you imagine having just the main figures installed in runtime and be able to load everything else only as needed?
I think ockham's freestuff Loader.py comes closest to working this way... I used it extensively PoserPro through Poser 6 but have been using the Library tab since going to Poser 7. Before that I used to have to swap out runtimes on P4.
ahudson posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 3:27 PM
Quote - I think ockham's freestuff Loader.py comes closest to working this way... I used it extensively PoserPro through Poser 6 but have been using the Library tab since going to Poser 7. Before that I used to have to swap out runtimes on P4.
Not come across this freestuf loader.py... can anyone point me at it please...
ahudson posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 3:29 PM
Quote - Thanks very much for this. I'm hoping to replace my current rig fairly soon and starting with some fresh runtimes sounds like a good idea!
Hey! Karen! How's Sheffield?... and how are you?
infinity10 posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 9:24 PM
Facing eternal runtime re-org and installing mayhem, I am game to try out this app.
Eternal Hobbyist
infinity10 posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 9:32 PM
Whoopsie - there is re-distributed content in that one ??
Eternal Hobbyist
ahudson posted Tue, 06 November 2007 at 4:24 AM
Quote - Whoopsie - there is re-distributed content in that one ??
What do you mean? There is no content in the zip file at all...
infinity10 posted Tue, 06 November 2007 at 4:57 AM
I have got High Tension for V4 included in my unzipped item.
When unzipped, the archive has a folder called runtime in addition to all the other files there. There are poses and the cr2 files. Is this supposed to be there ? If yes, then my mistake.
edited for typos.
Eternal Hobbyist
ahudson posted Tue, 06 November 2007 at 5:10 AM
Sorry, I cannot find any content in the file. Here is a DIR listing of it:
DIR /s
Volume in drive C has no label.
Volume Serial Number is BEB4-60BC
Directory of C:Installer
06/11/2007 11:06
Directory of C:InstallerInstall Files
05/11/2007 15:18
Directory of C:Installertemp
05/11/2007 15:18
Total Files Listed:
7 File(s) 804,078 bytes
8 Dir(s) 90,247,462,912 bytes free
infinity10 posted Tue, 06 November 2007 at 5:18 AM
edited for typos
Eternal Hobbyist
ahudson posted Tue, 06 November 2007 at 5:23 AM
Can't explain that. Sorry. Its not in my file.
infinity10 posted Tue, 06 November 2007 at 5:29 AM
No worries. Sorry to cause you the distraction. I can't explain it either.
Cheers.
Eternal Hobbyist
ahudson posted Tue, 06 November 2007 at 5:31 AM
Very odd. No problems. Good luck if you decide to try the program... I will help any way I can.
EnglishBob posted Tue, 06 November 2007 at 5:34 AM
There's nothing untoward in my download, either... It would be useful to have support for older DAZ installers, since those are the most pain to use. The earliest ones start searching your disk for your Poser installation and have to be cancelled. Later ones don't do that, but they default to your Poser directory and have to be rebrowsed every time. No pressure, since this is a freebie, and you may not even have examples of every DAZ installer out there - but as a thought for later enhancements, it would be appreciated.
ahudson posted Tue, 06 November 2007 at 5:37 AM
I do have one or two of the older installers... I will have a go at adding that. Will post back when done.
ahudson posted Tue, 06 November 2007 at 9:13 AM
Hey EnglishBob,
Quote - It would be useful to have support for older DAZ installers, since those are the most pain to use.
Done. Well for 4 earlier types of installer. New version is 1.1 and is available at the link above.
Have fun, let me know how you get on please.
EnglishBob posted Tue, 06 November 2007 at 9:29 AM
Darn, now I have to install some of those old Platinum Club freebies. :) Thanks, I'll let you know.
mrsparky posted Tue, 06 November 2007 at 12:42 PM
This is an outstandingly usefull tool - works perfectly with early daz installers - even runs under '98! This will really be usefull in the future. espically with daz content.
Thanks very much for creating this programme.
ahudson posted Tue, 06 November 2007 at 2:19 PM
Quote - This is an outstandingly usefull tool - works perfectly with early daz installers - even runs under '98! This will really be usefull in the future. espically with daz content.
WooHoo! Thanks for the feedback. Glad it is useful!
ahudson posted Wed, 07 November 2007 at 3:48 AM
I made a very small update to add spotting a couple of more readme names.
Link is sill as above.
ahudson posted Thu, 08 November 2007 at 11:11 AM
Another small change to increase reliability. V1.1.1 at original link
ahudson posted Fri, 09 November 2007 at 2:02 PM
Umm... well so far about 150 people have downloaded this. I wouldn't mind some form of feedback. Only mrsparky above has said anything so far (thank you mrsparky!).
Any comment at all would be appreciated, good or bad as long as its helpful.
Please... ?
EnglishBob posted Fri, 09 November 2007 at 2:52 PM
I have a major installing spree coming up, when I can face it - but I gave it a quick whirl on a couple of zips and a recent DAZ installer. All seemed to go well. I "installed" to a temporary folder anyway (no distrust implied, I do that anyway so I can put library files where I want them). One question though: when a DAZ installer has a choice between (say) DAZ|Studio / Poser 4 / Poser 5 etc., how does it know which option to choose?
ahudson posted Fri, 09 November 2007 at 4:19 PM
Quote - I have a major installing spree coming up, when I can face it - but I gave it a quick whirl on a couple of zips and a recent DAZ installer. All seemed to go well. I "installed" to a temporary folder anyway (no distrust implied, I do that anyway so I can put library files where I want them). One question though: when a DAZ installer has a choice between (say) DAZ|Studio / Poser 4 / Poser 5 etc., how does it know which option to choose?
Hi, it always chooses "Poser (All Files)" which seems always available. That's why it is just for Poser content.
I could have a go at reporgrammin it to choose "Highest version of poser content". i.e. Poser 6 then Poser 5 Then Poser 4 depending on what is available.
An alternative would be "Highest starting at Poser 6" or "Highest Starting at Poser 5" or "Highest starting at Poser 4" or "Poser (All Files)" or "Daz|Studio"
Thoughts?
SSAfam1 posted Fri, 09 November 2007 at 4:32 PM
I downloaded it. Had some compressed files I wanted to run through it.
It only gave me three options. "V4", "Props" and "Poser7" and no browse button to select another destination. I don't even have V4 or Poser 7 so it came down to the process of elimination.
I read the readme files carefully, especially step 5 and I have no clue how to use this...
EnglishBob posted Fri, 09 November 2007 at 5:30 PM
From the readme file: "2. Edit the file runtimes.txt. Make one line for each of your runtime locations. Use the full path to each location and check it carefully. There are three example lines in the file. Just edit them as you require."
SSAfam1 posted Fri, 09 November 2007 at 5:33 PM
themomster0 posted Fri, 09 November 2007 at 7:23 PM
With all the sales going on I've really put this one through the paces and no problems. It's been a real blessing. Thank you!
Jcleaver posted Fri, 09 November 2007 at 8:31 PM
Thank you! I was dreading installing everything I got during the recent sale at DAZ. This made it a snap! Works great so far. I haven't tried any zip files yet, though.
Is there a limit to how many files can be installed this way?
ThrommArcadia posted Fri, 09 November 2007 at 9:09 PM
A big thanks for this great and extremely useful little program! I'll drop you a note when I've had a chance to use it.
infinity10 posted Sat, 10 November 2007 at 12:39 AM
Yeah, OK, I can say that I tried installing 3 things, two were for V4 and the other was some environment-related item.
The app asked me where I wanted to install the V4 items, and I told it to put them into the folder called "V4 use". It installed accordingly, with readmes in your default location.
No issues.
I would take care about the temporary folder though. I think that extra stuff was cached there (inadverdently for the original distro), and that's how I could see it. Apart from that, can't see it working incorrectly.
Eternal Hobbyist
ahudson posted Sat, 10 November 2007 at 6:35 AM
Quote - Thank you! I was dreading installing everything I got during the recent sale at DAZ. This made it a snap! Works great so far. I haven't tried any zip files yet, though.
Is there a limit to how many files can be installed this way?
Only limit is your disk space! LOL. Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad its helped. I use it myself even for individual files!
ahudson posted Sat, 10 November 2007 at 6:38 AM
Quote - Yeah, OK, I can say that I tried installing 3 things, two were for V4 and the other was some environment-related item.
The app asked me where I wanted to install the V4 items, and I told it to put them into the folder called "V4 use". It installed accordingly, with readmes in your default location.
No issues.
I would take care about the temporary folder though. I think that extra stuff was cached there (inadverdently for the original distro), and that's how I could see it. Apart from that, can't see it working incorrectly.
hi infinity10,
Thanks for the feedback... Was strange that. Maybe I will mod it to delete the temp folder when it finishes.
ahudson posted Sat, 10 November 2007 at 6:39 AM
Quote - With all the sales going on I've really put this one through the paces and no problems. It's been a real blessing. Thank you!
themomster,
Thanks for the feedback. Glad it helps!!
bethc1952 posted Sun, 11 November 2007 at 5:36 PM
This is wonderful! I'm one of those people who keeps only the figures installed in the P7 runtime, and I create a runtime for each project I'm working on. This little program just made that SO much easier!
Thank you!
Beth
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ahudson posted Mon, 12 November 2007 at 1:43 AM
Beth,
I'm really pleased it helps. I love it too, even though I do say so myself! LOL
And thank you for your feedback too!
ahudson posted Mon, 12 November 2007 at 1:47 AM
New version. Version 1.5 is out.
Added the capability, in the case of DAZ installers) of selecting the version of Poser you want to install for.
Added the capability of installing for D|S too instead of just for Poser.
Use the original link in the first post.
Have fun.
Adrian
p.s. Beth, I never thought of doing what you do (the runtime per project), cool idea! Real easy, as you say with this program
bethc1952 posted Mon, 12 November 2007 at 7:58 AM
It keeps thing more organized because I'm usually working on four or five projects at the same time!
Thanks again. My life is easier now!
Beth
One little spark of inspiration is at the heart of all creation.
Right at the start of everything that's new, one little spark
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Janl posted Mon, 12 November 2007 at 10:52 PM
I'm installing my content on a new laptop and taking the chance to further organise my runtimes too which means installing from scratch. I've installed to 3 different runtimes so far and everything has gone smoothly. Thank you very much for this useful utility,
ahudson posted Tue, 13 November 2007 at 5:53 AM
Quote - I'm installing my content on a new laptop and taking the chance to further organise my runtimes too which means installing from scratch. I've installed to 3 different runtimes so far and everything has gone smoothly. Thank you very much for this useful utility,
Janl
Thank you VERY much for your feedback! Glad it helps.
Adrian
ahudson posted Thu, 15 November 2007 at 2:00 AM
Tiny update to make it a little more reliable with some Daz installers
New version 1.5.1
Download from the link in the first post.
Cheers
As always, any feedback most appreciated
Thetis posted Thu, 15 November 2007 at 5:30 AM
I also seized the moving to a new PC to organize my runtimes new (still at it).
Would love to see a program do it, but I think there's no other way than unzip (or run the exe) and than tediously rename and move all the newly installed stuff to the right folders. For example, I name the texture folders exactly like the product name followed by the creator's name. Originally they are often named first after the creator or they are in a subsubsubfolders like "texturesmilleniumfiguresfemalefiguresV4MollystexturefilesKarlotta" and so on. Never to find again. In my V4 runtime these textures would be in "texturesbodykarlotta_Molly". I know that Poser has probably to look a moment longer after the textures, when applying the MAT pose, but I find them in a moment too, if I want to change something.
The same applies to all folder and item names. If I would't rename and reorganize them after installation, I would drown in cryptic subfolders and never find the stuff again. Example: "props!!!fritz3drecreational propsM3 sportsBasketball" goes to "propssportBasketball_fritz3d".
ahudson posted Mon, 19 November 2007 at 2:45 PM
Quote - I also seized the moving to a new PC to organize my runtimes new (still at it).
Would love to see a program do it, but I think there's no other way than unzip (or run the exe) and than tediously rename and move all the newly installed stuff to the right folders. For example, I name the texture folders exactly like the product name followed by the creator's name. Originally they are often named first after the creator or they are in a subsubsubfolders like "texturesmilleniumfiguresfemalefiguresV4MollystexturefilesKarlotta" and so on. Never to find again. In my V4 runtime these textures would be in "texturesbodykarlotta_Molly". I know that Poser has probably to look a moment longer after the textures, when applying the MAT pose, but I find them in a moment too, if I want to change something.
The same applies to all folder and item names. If I would't rename and reorganize them after installation, I would drown in cryptic subfolders and never find the stuff again. Example: "props!!!fritz3drecreational propsM3 sportsBasketball" goes to "propssportBasketball_fritz3d".
I so wish I had your patience!!!
dragonfly2004 posted Mon, 19 November 2007 at 3:06 PM
I just found this thread and the programme, so it might be some time before I can use it.
My problem is I have a new PC (Quadcore) which is running Vista 64 bit, and about a hundred million petabytes of runtime to rebuild (at least that's what it seems like after two weeks of slow progress - LOL!)
Unfortunately, Vista 64 bit does not like installers of any kind (ESPECIALLY Victoria 4.1, though V4.0 is okay), so I'm just hoping your programme will help with the simple stuff.
Don't expect me to post back too soon, though, as Vista frequently proves uncooperative.
Frank
ps: And just transferring the Poser 6 and 7 Runtimes from my XP Pro system to the Vista system doesn't work, as Vista uses a different file hierarchy. I tried it and it made such a mess I had to re-install Vista, which took almost five hours just to run the Setup file on the 1 Tb hdd.
mylemonblue posted Mon, 19 November 2007 at 7:26 PM
Wow. This rocks! Thanks for the installer and yup computers are for automation and it's nice to see them getting used to make things easier.
Quote - I just found this thread and the programme, so it might be some time before I can use it.
My problem is I have a new PC (Quadcore) which is running Vista 64 bit, and about a hundred million petabytes of runtime to rebuild (at least that's what it seems like after two weeks of slow progress - LOL!)
Unfortunately, Vista 64 bit does not like installers of any kind (ESPECIALLY Victoria 4.1, though V4.0 is okay), so I'm just hoping your programme will help with the simple stuff.
Don't expect me to post back too soon, though, as Vista frequently proves uncooperative.
Frankps: And just transferring the Poser 6 and 7 Runtimes from my XP Pro system to the Vista system doesn't work, as Vista uses a different file hierarchy. I tried it and it made such a mess I had to re-install Vista, which took almost five hours just to run the Setup file on the 1 Tb hdd.
:blink: :scared: Five hours???!!? Ouch. If I get another Windows PC I'm going to have it built by a the build-to-order computer shop down the street called Data Doctors. They're a national chain and sell them with WinXP installed.
My brain is just a toy box filled with weird things
bigjobbie posted Mon, 19 November 2007 at 10:59 PM
Thanks **ahudson
**Looks really useful - I've been avoiding doing a runtime clean-up/re-install because of the laborious nature of poser product installers.
Cheers
ahudson posted Tue, 20 November 2007 at 8:11 AM
Quote - I just found this thread and the programme, so it might be some time before I can use it.
My problem is I have a new PC (Quadcore) which is running Vista 64 bit, and about a hundred million petabytes of runtime to rebuild (at least that's what it seems like after two weeks of slow progress - LOL!)
Unfortunately, Vista 64 bit does not like installers of any kind (ESPECIALLY Victoria 4.1, though V4.0 is okay), so I'm just hoping your programme will help with the simple stuff.
Don't expect me to post back too soon, though, as Vista frequently proves uncooperative.
Frankps: And just transferring the Poser 6 and 7 Runtimes from my XP Pro system to the Vista system doesn't work, as Vista uses a different file hierarchy. I tried it and it made such a mess I had to re-install Vista, which took almost five hours just to run the Setup file on the 1 Tb hdd.
Ummm.. email me direct over your poser installation problems on X64. There should ne no problems at all. I run on 64bit.. sweet as a nut. My email is in the readme in the zip. Cheers
ahudson posted Tue, 20 November 2007 at 8:13 AM
Quote - Thanks **ahudson
**Looks really useful - I've been avoiding doing a runtime clean-up/re-install because of the laborious nature of poser product installers.
Cheers
Glad it helps!
SSAfam1 posted Fri, 23 November 2007 at 1:51 PM
I have a ?
You know how you have to add your own runtimes to the list?
IF you have CLOTHING do you have to add a different clothing runtime for each character?
For instance my clothing runtime goes as follows:
C/runtime/CLOTHING. I have subfolders for V3/A3/V4/SP etc.
Do I add each and every character's folder to the runtime list making it like this?
C/runtime/CLOTHING/V3
C/runtime/CLOTHING/A3
C/runtime/CLOTHINGV4
C/runtime/CLOTHING/SP
C/runtime/CLOTHING/etc
EnglishBob posted Fri, 23 November 2007 at 4:27 PM
Yes. If Poser sees them as separate runtimes, then the Installer will too.
SSAfam1 posted Fri, 23 November 2007 at 4:48 PM
semidieu posted Fri, 23 November 2007 at 5:32 PM
Thanks a lot for this ! I was looking since a long time an application to install those DAZ installers !
JoPol posted Fri, 30 November 2007 at 12:16 PM
This is a NEAT Utility!!! I have used it extensively since downloading on 11/19. It Works!! (and its FREE...) Thank you for making this available. Sincerely, JoPol (a forum Lurker)
alKhall posted Sat, 01 December 2007 at 5:03 PM
Thnx for this utility, my runtime is a jungle and this little beauty could be my chainsaw. :o)
ahudson posted Wed, 05 December 2007 at 6:00 PM
Thank you to everyone who has left feedback... and sorry for the odd query that I left unanswered and thanks for people who answered those queries!
RoseHawk posted Wed, 05 December 2007 at 6:54 PM
Thank you for this most useful of utillities. I find it great for the older Daz installers (you know, the ones that insist on scanning all your drive).
Improvement means change. Change need not mean improvement.
I use Poser 12.0.757, 11.3 and or 2014, on Win10 64bit.
DreamWarrior posted Thu, 06 December 2007 at 12:25 AM
I wanted to say thank you as well.
I've tried it yesterday. Extremely useful.
Thank you for your generosity!
Barb
kayjay97 posted Fri, 07 December 2007 at 9:37 AM
First off, thank you for seems like a excellent utility :-)
I am having problems editing the file runtimes.txt. XP will not allow me to use the characters /,.: etc.
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FreeBass posted Wed, 12 December 2007 at 1:59 PM
Sweeeeeeeet!
:thumbupboth:
One suggestion/ request; Would it be possible to make this app not install .rsr thumbs if there is a corresponding .png?
This is the bestest Xmas gift I got (or prob'ly will get) this year.
Thank you verry much :biggrin:
Edit; kayjay...if yr still havin' probbems, try browsing to yr selrcted install folder in Windows Explorer, then copy the location right outta the address bar & paste it into the Runtime.txt
Works fer me
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kayjay97 posted Wed, 12 December 2007 at 2:24 PM
Will try that FreeBAss. Thank you
:-)
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we need the peace of God standing guard over our hearts and
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ahudson posted Fri, 14 December 2007 at 4:22 AM
**kayjay97, I hIope freebass's suggestion worked...
freebass, thank you for a great comment... Umm... can you explain about the rsr v png files a bit more please?**
EnglishBob posted Fri, 14 December 2007 at 4:32 AM
Quote - Umm... can you explain about the rsr v png files a bit more please?
If I may? Poser 4 and earlier used RSR files as library thumbnails, whereas Pro Pack and later use PNGs. Many authors provide both RSR and PNG thumbnails for convenience - but of course you only need to install the type which is relevant to your version of Poser. The rest are just taking up disk space.
kayjay97 posted Fri, 14 December 2007 at 5:08 AM
Clapping!! OMG, how cool is this!!! Thank you, thank you! You just mage my life easier!! LOL
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lululee posted Sat, 15 December 2007 at 8:35 AM
Thank you sooooooo much. What a terrific gift. Ireally appreciate it. Thank you so much for sharing this with us.
cheerio lululee
FranOnTheEdge posted Sun, 16 December 2007 at 9:34 AM
I just installed Poser5 - again. I've got all the Hiro content CD stuff installed before I found this thread, but I also have a lot - really a lot! - of content from Daz - that I had previously installed for DS, now that I've re-intalled Poser5 can I use your installer to install the same stuff for Poser5? Or do I not need to even install all that?
I ask because the runtimes and all that rot are a complete mess for DS, so much of a mess that DS keeps saying - "you have more than 10 folders..warning... blah blah warning blah blah blah..." over and over again.
In fact that's one reason why I've not used DS much - because it's such a hassle trying to find something it needs when I want to use a model, prop or pose etc, so much of a hassle that I usually just have to give up and forget it.
I think having so many folders called "content" or "content this" in so many different locations that makes it so maddening. And if the computer doesn't know what it did with the stuff when it installed it, there's no way on earth I can ever know.
So is this what your program gets rid of? The mess?
It would be so cool if something did.
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
ahudson posted Sun, 16 December 2007 at 9:54 AM
Quote - I just installed Poser5 - again. I've got all the Hiro content CD stuff installed before I found this thread, but I also have a lot - really a lot! - of content from Daz - that I had previously installed for DS, now that I've re-intalled Poser5 can I use your installer to install the same stuff for Poser5? Or do I not need to even install all that?
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So is this what your program gets rid of? The mess?It would be so cool if something did.
It certainly would be cool if something did!
I'm afraid this program is not the tool though (for getting rid of mess). In fact, I don;t think ther IS a tool for getting rid of runtime mess. This program will however help you install 95% of your stuff into nicely names runtimes. If you are going back to Poser and want to start afresh then zap the D|S folders completely and segergate your content into figures (V3, V4 animals etc) and then within that into clothes, shoes, hair etc). Then, make a well ordered (short named too) list of the runtimes you want eg
c:runtimesV3Shoes
c:runtimesV3Hair
c:runtimesV3Clothes
c:runtimesV3Char-morphs
c:runtimesV3poses
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c:runtimesV4Shoes
c:runtimesV4Hair
c:runtimesV4Clothes
c:runtimesV4Char-morphs
c:runtimesV4poses
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c:runtimesprops
c:runtimeslights
Put this into the runtimes.txt file in the installer folder.
Take each category of "things" eg all your install files for poses for V4. Put thim into the install files folder and run the program specifitying the c:runtimesv4poses folder as the target.
This will install all those files (the poses for V4) into the V4Poses runtime.
Repeat the process for each category of content.
Finally, start poser and add all the runtimes into the library.
You may wish to look at the excellent "Advanced Library" http://neocron.lunarpages.com/library/ program to further subcategorise your content. This can help you build a virtual structure on top of your runtimes. It is WELL worth a look.
Hope this helps
Cheers
Adrian
softcris posted Thu, 27 December 2007 at 9:29 AM
odlly as it may seems...my antivirus: HTTP://www.avast.com
found your *.zip file as a virus treat!
"'you shut up! or I'll
bring democracy to your country! "
Cris
Galvão aka Softcris - www.crisgalvao.com
(or softcris,
SoftCris)
Rendering since 1997 and
at Renderosity since 1999.
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Win 8.1 64 bit
ahudson posted Thu, 27 December 2007 at 9:54 AM
Quote - odlly as it may seems...my antivirus: HTTP://www.avast.com
found your *.zip file as a virus treat!
Sorry, do you mean avast thinks there is a virus? Again, i have checked the file this time against Norton, AVG (free) and NOD32 and none of them feel there is an issue. Perhaps you might ask your antivirus program to send the report to the manufacturer for them to ascertain the fault.
Cheers,
Adrian
Stepdad posted Fri, 28 December 2007 at 12:11 AM
Most useful feature I could think of off the top of my head would be a filter for the directory names that come in many prepackaged runtimes.
For example, the directory name in the character folder might be Micheal's Suit - but the guy who made the runtime for whatever reason decided to put "Mat Suit" for a directory name for the mat files, and used "artist name here" as the directory name in the geometry and texture file location.
This can become quite maddening after a while, you get 10 or 20 directories like this and trying to track everything down becomes a royal pain in the keester, especially those damn material files. How can anyone possibly remember the name of the original vendor 6 months or a year later so they can track down the geometry or worse yet the original texture file?
If your program could allow you to substitute a single name for all of these different directory names that would be a real godsend. It would be nice it it would check to see no duplicate names of that same directory already existed, but just the ability to get rid of that stupid "MAT" designation or those godawful "!" signs in front of the directory name would be fantastic.
Nothing worse than trying to find something when it's out of alphabetical order. Really wish more people would keep that in mind when there packaging this stuff in the first place.
Lol.. ok, rant over...
Stepdad
ahudson posted Fri, 28 December 2007 at 4:40 AM
Quote - Most useful feature I could think of off the top of my head would be a filter for the directory names that come in many prepackaged runtimes.
For example, the directory name in the character folder might be Micheal's Suit - but the guy who made the runtime for whatever reason decided to put "Mat Suit" for a directory name for the mat files, and used "artist name here" as the directory name in the geometry and texture file location.
This can become quite maddening after a while, you get 10 or 20 directories like this and trying to track everything down becomes a royal pain in the keester, especially those damn material files. How can anyone possibly remember the name of the original vendor 6 months or a year later so they can track down the geometry or worse yet the original texture file?
If your program could allow you to substitute a single name for all of these different directory names that would be a real godsend. It would be nice it it would check to see no duplicate names of that same directory already existed, but just the ability to get rid of that stupid "MAT" designation or those godawful "!" signs in front of the directory name would be fantastic.
Nothing worse than trying to find something when it's out of alphabetical order. Really wish more people would keep that in mind when there packaging this stuff in the first place.
Lol.. ok, rant over...
Stepdad
OH I SO AGREE!!!
Big change though and would only work for zip files, not Daz installers (without serious work). I will think about this though. I can't say it will be imminent much as I would like it to be so.
ahudson posted Fri, 28 December 2007 at 4:43 AM
NEW VERSION 1.6
Change 1. Zip installation log files and a corresponding new program UninstZip. If a log file is dragged and dropped onto the uninstZip program it will uninstall all the files that came from that zip file.
Change 2. New option to move input files into Success or Failed folders
Download from the original link on the first post.
Sorry about the rubbish icons for the main program and the UninstZip program. Does anyone know of a good free icon source?
RoseHawk posted Fri, 28 December 2007 at 4:54 AM
Thanks for the update!
I'm still suffering from Xmas D/L over load so this will a good work out!
Improvement means change. Change need not mean improvement.
I use Poser 12.0.757, 11.3 and or 2014, on Win10 64bit.
randym77 posted Fri, 28 December 2007 at 5:58 AM
Thank you. This looks promising...
Stepdad posted Fri, 28 December 2007 at 6:09 AM
Quote -
OH I SO AGREE!!!
Big change though and would only work for zip files, not Daz installers (without serious work). I will think about this though. I can't say it will be imminent much as I would like it to be so.
Well, if I understood how the program works it essentially "hijacks" the daz install process by feeding it parameters already, so I can't imagine it would be too difficult to just have the program install all the runtime info to a dummy directory and copy it over from there just as if it were a zip.
ahudson posted Fri, 28 December 2007 at 9:08 AM
Quote - > Quote -
OH I SO AGREE!!!
Big change though and would only work for zip files, not Daz installers (without serious work). I will think about this though. I can't say it will be imminent much as I would like it to be so.
Well, if I understood how the program works it essentially "hijacks" the daz install process by feeding it parameters already, so I can't imagine it would be too difficult to just have the program install all the runtime info to a dummy directory and copy it over from there just as if it were a zip.
True. Still, the renaming bit would be tricky and it would invalidate the Daz installers uninstall routines.
Stepdad posted Sat, 29 December 2007 at 1:06 AM
Quote - > Quote - > Quote -
OH I SO AGREE!!!
Big change though and would only work for zip files, not Daz installers (without serious work). I will think about this though. I can't say it will be imminent much as I would like it to be so.
Well, if I understood how the program works it essentially "hijacks" the daz install process by feeding it parameters already, so I can't imagine it would be too difficult to just have the program install all the runtime info to a dummy directory and copy it over from there just as if it were a zip.
True. Still, the renaming bit would be tricky and it would invalidate the Daz installers uninstall routines.
Hmm.... but that would be simple enough to work around I would think, install everything without the "uninstall" feature from daz, and just incorporate an uninstall feature in your own program instead. Since the idea is they'll be using your program have it keep a log file of what it installed and where and give it the ability to uninstall them instead, bypass the daz installer almost entirely.
Truth be told what little I have from Daz I never use there uninstaller routines anyway, more of a pain that what their worth. I don't want 20 or 30 extra entries in my add and remove programs menu, enough crap in there already :)
Stepdad
hemi426 posted Sun, 30 December 2007 at 2:46 PM
First of all I want to say "thank you" as well. I have several ideas/proposals.
Would it be possible to integrate this into the context menu for .zip files? When you rightclick a zip-file, you have the option "Open with poser installer".
Then you have a dropdown box with the predefined runtimes (from the Runtimes.txt already in your app).
And it should list the folder names of the libraries folder included in the zip-file in a second step in a textfield (yeah I come from the web programming side :-).
So it would be possible to change the names of the folders that go into the libraries folders.
For example: "poses/freestuff creator xyz" so you it could be changed into "poses/V4 sitting poses". The names of the folders for textures and geometries cannot be changed, otherwise the files could not be found from poser.
Thanks
facehugger
Jcleaver posted Mon, 31 December 2007 at 10:32 AM
This is getting quite indispensible!
I have a feature request. How about a way to add files from the program, rather than just copying them ahead of time? An Add files button, so to speak.
Also, an intuitive way to end the process in the middle, like after the current install finishes. I haven't figured out how to end the program early yet; though i could have sworn I read something on how to do that.
John
ahudson posted Wed, 02 January 2008 at 6:03 AM
I want to thank everyone for their kind comments and suggestions for improvements for this program.
A number of people suggested that I should sell this item so I have made it available at http://market.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=61876 for what I believe is a nominal charge.
If you have a version prior to 1.6 then if you email me at the address in the readme file, I will be happy to send you version 1.6 free until the end of January.
Cheers and thanks again to everyone who downloaded and commented on this program
Honey_ZA posted Tue, 29 January 2008 at 1:17 PM
Hi,
rather late than never but i also just wanted to say thanx for this awesome program. I've been using it non stop (untill my pc crashed today) and it works brilliantly. I am actually looking forward to installing everything again thanx to you.
Luckily i've got backups of everything.
Thank you and i hope it sells well. It is awesome!!
HoNeY
http://www.HoneyB.co.za
ahudson posted Tue, 29 January 2008 at 1:29 PM
Thank you very much. I am glad it helps. :)
Richabri posted Tue, 29 January 2008 at 6:11 PM
Hmmm, the title of this thread announces that this is a free program and now I see three pages into the thread that it's for sale in the MP.
Nice strategy!
Kinda reminds me of Netzero :)
albertdelfosse posted Tue, 20 May 2008 at 5:06 PM
great program it helped a lot
JQP posted Tue, 11 November 2008 at 6:24 PM
How about a content UNinstaller? Software that installs content and makes a record of all actions, and the data on all files created. Then it can uninstall the content when summoned, maybe even hunt it down if it's been moved.
EnglishBob posted Wed, 12 November 2008 at 9:01 AM
The drawback with this is that some content can share files with other items, and you wouldn't necessarily want those shared files deleted.
JQP posted Thu, 13 November 2008 at 1:44 PM
Examples? If the file locations, sizes, dates, and names are recorded, seems removing them would be straightforward. If they don't match, the program could ask for confirmation.
nruddock posted Thu, 13 November 2008 at 5:02 PM
You'd also need a usage count (or similar mechanism) for each file.
Not a trivial undertaking (see also Microsoft Windows DLL Hell).
leather-guy posted Thu, 13 November 2008 at 10:52 PM
Hi.
After scanning this thread, I just bought the program. Trying to install it just now, it seems to be hard-coded to install into a folder called installer that has to be in the root directory of a hard drive. How do I override this? Installing a minor utility (however useful) into it's own folder in a root directory is unacceptable to me. My root directories on all 6 of my hard drives (1.6 TB total)are carefully organized.
I need to be able to install this into D:3D-AppsPoserUtils3DContentInstaller to maintain the organization I've labored for several years to maintain.
I haven't seen a program hard coded to a root directory in over 10 years (aside from some of Adobe's and Corel's support files, which is one of the reasons I've stopped using Adobe and Corel products).
How can this problem be corrected?
Thanks!
Jerry
leather-guy
leather-guy posted Sun, 08 November 2009 at 12:37 AM
A year later, and no reply whatsoever to my problem, including and IM - not the kind of product support I'd have wished from a Vendor at Renderosity.
ahudson posted Sun, 08 November 2009 at 5:08 AM
Quote - A year later, and no reply whatsoever to my problem, including and IM - not the kind of product support I'd have wished from a Vendor at Renderosity.
I'm sorry, I did not see your post. Why did you not email me? I don't understand your words about IM because I am not on IM.
Simply move the folder to wherever you wish. It will work anywhere on the same PC.
Any other problems, please email me at the address in the readme/instructions file or here using sitemail.
Regards,
Adrian
nruddock posted Sun, 08 November 2009 at 7:00 AM
Quote - I don't understand your words about IM because I am not on IM.
He meant he used the "Site Mail".
TrekkieGrrrl posted Sun, 08 November 2009 at 8:39 AM
So.. this isn't free any more, right?
Damn I guess I should have grabbed it back then.. hmm... Who knows.. perhaps I actually did.. What was the name of the zip?
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markschum posted Sun, 08 November 2009 at 10:45 AM
I have a python script that does a batch install of zip files but the Daz installers is a real pain to do.
Excellent utility.
EnglishBob posted Sun, 08 November 2009 at 11:19 AM
Quote - What was the name of the zip?
Installer.zip, appropriately enough. ;-)
RobynsVeil posted Tue, 10 November 2009 at 3:59 AM
Oh well, missed out again. $10 US is a bit out my reach now (particularly since I make a third of what I used to back in the US - nurses in Oz are ridiculously ill-paid) for a utility I'm not sure I'd use, since I don't just unzip files and leave them in their default folders: they go into a test folder first, get checked for usability, cr2s are stripped of existing standard morphs and re-morphed for my characters with Morph Clothes. Shaders are carefully studied, code written for Matmatic and the materials gamma-corrected with Parmatic support (if one of Bantha's free GC wacros won't fill the bill, which most of the time they do), and then the items are moved into their final locations, IF they prove themselves usable.
I've wasted more money on items that promise but don't deliver... thank goodness for tools like Morph Clothes, Poser File Editor, Matmatic and Parmatic. Interestingly, I find I use the free tools more than the ones I spend money on.
Go figure.
Monterey/Mint21.x/Win10 - Blender3.x - PP11.3(cm) - Musescore3.6.2
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehen
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ahudson posted Tue, 10 November 2009 at 4:05 AM
Hi RobynsVeil,
This tool wouldn't be terribly useful to you because of the reorganizing that you do after content has been installed. It is designed primarily for installing lots of content quickly - i.e. after having purchased several products or after a hard disk crash or after rebuild of your PC.
Regards
RobynsVeil posted Tue, 10 November 2009 at 4:11 AM
I believe you're right, AHudson. For 99% of the Poser community, this IS a godsend... reading this thread confirms that.
But, I'm a really weird fish... ask anyone.
Thanks for your reply.
Monterey/Mint21.x/Win10 - Blender3.x - PP11.3(cm) - Musescore3.6.2
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehen
[it is clear that humans have contempt for that which they do not understand]
EnglishBob posted Tue, 10 November 2009 at 5:01 AM
Attached Link: Unofficial DAZ Content Installer [DAZ Forum thread]
I do still use the original free installer, even though I extract to a temporary folder and then rearrange everything severely afterwards. When I have a bunch of stuff in disparate formats, I still believe it speeds things up.There's a new free installer WIP in the DAZ Freepozitory - it deals only with the new DAZ Bitrock installers at present, but it seems there are plans to expand this to other archives later.