after collecting Idler168's shoes. My V3 must have all of them!

Wait until you start looking at his V4 ones too :)

Forgoing V4 has postponed my trip. LOL

I'm a nice person. I would NEVER consider asking you if you've started collecting dx30's shoes or all the texture sets PG-Graphics has to go with them.

(And I actually wonder why V3 has nicer shoes than I do!)

I used to enjoy buying clothes for myself. Since Poser, Vicky has the best and I buy MY clothes at the garage sales, LOL!

dx30's shoes huh?

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Quote - I used to enjoy buying clothes for myself. Since Poser, Vicky has the best and I buy MY clothes at the garage sales, LOL!

 

So true! My kids and Vicki get everything! Nothing for me. :(

I really wish V3, V4, or even Aiko were my size. Then we could share. Heck, at this point I'd even take Hiro's hand me downs :)

Quote - I really wish V3, V4, or even Aiko were my size. Then we could share. Heck, at this point I'd even take Hiro's hand me downs :)

 

Yes, yes, Hiro's hand me downs would keep me warm in that cold, drafty, poor house I'm headed to.

Uh-oh just checked out Dx30's shoes. I'm in trouble...

I think I am most addicted to hair. I even have a seperate hair runtime, arghhhh!

*I think I am most addicted to hair. I even have a seperate hair runtime, arghhhh!

*Hair, yes, especially long hair! Lots and lots of lush flowing hair. When WAS the last time I had a haircut?? I think I cancelled the appointment because HMann came out with a new one.

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Quote - I think I am most addicted to hair. I even have a seperate hair runtime, arghhhh!

 

Oh yes...hair and shoes are what I'm on the hunt for these days. :(

it's called "debtors' prison" nowadays. quite comfortable, actually. 3 meals per day, free room-and-board, laundry, exercise yard, tattoos et al. :lol: no, seriously, it can be addictive. some folks may actually spend $$,$$$ per year on this stuff.

SSAfam1, at this rate you'll have more shoes than Imelda Marcos !!**
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Quote - it's called "debtors' prison" nowadays. quite comfortable, actually. 3 meals per day, free room-and-board, laundry, exercise yard, tattoos et al. :lol: no, seriously, it can be addictive. some folks may actually spend $$,$$$ per year on this stuff.

 

I cant afford to be one of them. LOL 

Should I write to these vendors and BEG them to start making crappy stuff so I won't be tempted?

Quote - SSAfam1, at this rate you'll have more shoes than Imelda Marcos !!

A gal can never have too many shoes! :)

Quote - > Quote - I think I am most addicted to hair. I even have a seperate hair runtime, arghhhh!

 

Oh yes...hair and shoes are what I'm on the hunt for these days. :(

Have you seen that thread? 

http://market.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?message_id=2743009&ebot_calc_page#message_2743009

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able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - I think I am most addicted to hair. I even have a seperate hair runtime, arghhhh!

 

Oh yes...hair and shoes are what I'm on the hunt for these days. :(

Have you seen that thread? 

http://market.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?message_id=2743009&ebot_calc_page#message_2743009

 

No, no, no, no....no more items to tempt me.

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Actually, Acadia, some of my favorite hair is free at Maya Studio. I have been able to fit it to V4 and other characters....Yet, I buy, buy, buy..........Got some hair in my cart right now (slaps own hands).

LOL okay just went into the link. Yes, I saw that thread upon arriving. I collected some of those. Great job...as always...on gathering those links.

This is for the insane.. after spending more than $20,000NZ on stuff for Poser... I use just 10% of the stuff I bought.. why is this... oh... I got it... I'm addicted!!

You might also try Poser World. For one price you subscrbe to get all the content for free. http://store.poserworld.com/Affiliate.aspx?id=100

I keep V4 barefoot so I can afford shredded wheat and blueberries.

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P.S. however, I just spent about $50 on dresses. For her, of course.

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Which wouldn't be half as many shoes as my ex wife.  The former Mrs Therapy had a ludicrous amount of footwear.

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Quote - I keep V4 barefoot so I can afford shredded wheat and blueberries.

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P.S. however, I just spent about $50 on dresses. For her, of course.

 

I am so glad you added that last sentence. :lol:

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how come with Vicky's vast wardrobe, she still tends to strut about all noodie like, most the time?

and i too tend to spend more on poser clothes, than myself, 

i end up getting my stuff from TKMaxx and wear them until there is enough holes in 'em to make me illegal in 99.9% of the world!!

Making the active decision to stick fonly with PosetteV3 and P4DukeM3 has saved me from all these financially embarassing choices.  I DO want to buy Pappy's prayer shawl though and adapt it to Dorkl.
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Quote - how come with Vicky's vast wardrobe, she still tends to strut about all noodie like, most the time?

 

You say that like it's a bad thing. :biggrin:

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*Quote - "how come with Vicky's vast wardrobe, she still tends to strut about all noodie like, most the time? You say that like it's a bad thing. "

*Besides... keeping them naked is SOOOOOOO much easier on the pocketbook!!!!
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*Quote - "how come with Vicky's vast wardrobe, she still tends to strut about all noodie like, most the time?
You say that like it's a bad thing. "

*Besides... keeping them naked is SOOOOOOO much easier on the pocketbook!!!!
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.... I wish the men had nicer shoes - now, that could eat into my piggy bank savings !!

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Ahhhhhhhh, shoes and hair my biggest expenses in Poserdom - I just cannot resist it seems.

Even worse hubby and I were discussing clothes last night and I realised that it is THREE years since I bought anything new - and guess how long I've been using Poser????  Yup, since March 2005 :o|

 

 

Quote - .... I wish the men had nicer shoes - now, that could eat into my piggy bank savings !!

 

My Poser guys have Doc Martens, biker boots, running shoes, canvas sneakers and oxfords.  What more does a guy need?

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.... I wish the men had nicer shoes - now, that could eat into my piggy bank savings !!

You are so right infinity10!!! What we need is for one of our talented merchants to become interested in visual kei and start making some of that stuff for our boys ;P

*My Poser guys have Doc Martens, biker boots, running shoes, canvas sneakers and oxfords.  What more does a guy need?

*Let's start with the absolute basics for any well dressed man, Neiman Marcus.

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/catalog/templates/P9.jhtml?itemId=cat6750735&parentId=cat000550&masterId=cat000526&cmCat=&page=1&view=all&filter1Type=&filter1Value=&filter2Type=&filter2Value=&filterOverride=&sort=

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/catalog/templates/P9.jhtml?itemId=cat9250740&parentId=cat000550&masterId=cat000526

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/catalog/templates/P9.jhtml?itemId=cat10650732&parentId=cat000550&masterId=cat000526&cmCat=&page=1&view=all&filter1Type=&filter1Value=&filter2Type=&filter2Value=&filterOverride=&sort=

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/catalog/templates/P9.jhtml?itemId=cat10580739&parentId=cat000550&masterId=cat000526&cmCat=&page=1&view=all&filter1Type=&filter1Value=&filter2Type=&filter2Value=&filterOverride=&sort=

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/catalog/templates/P9.jhtml?itemId=cat3260731&parentId=cat000550&masterId=cat000526&cmCat=&page=1&view=all&filter1Type=&filter1Value=&filter2Type=&filter2Value=&filterOverride=&sort=

Once he has all the basics he needs all of these

http://www.snaz75.com/mens-boots.html?pageNum=0

LOLOLOLOLOL Samtherapy walked right into that one. SoCalRoberta good job! The men need Neiman Marcus darn it! 

If' I were a merchant, I'd make more mens clothing since that's where the money would be seeing as folks are craving more...

Quote - "how come with Vicky's vast wardrobe, she still tends to strut about all noodie like, most the time?"

The whole purpose of clothes for women is to stimulate the imagination of others...about what she looks like naked.

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That reminds me, I have to make more shoes... and convert my V3 Victorian shoe freebie to V4... :D
And I have couple of Apollo outfits in the pipeline :D 

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how about an outfit like this one... I think it's a versache.

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Quote - how about an outfit like this one... I think it's a versache.

 

LOL does the male model come with the shoes???

I envy you guys. You're a shoe modeller so when you want a new pair, you can  just model it.  You can even make your own clothes. People like 3Dream and Lisbeth can make hair when they want. OutofTouch can buy an outfit and use its template to make a textures. You all can do for yourselves.

i think you'll need to spin the ear dials to at least +3.000 to achieve those air-brakes he is sportin'!!!

Quote - i think you'll need to spin the ear dials to at least +3.000 to achieve those air-brakes he is sportin'!!!

 

hehee.

hehehe, I didn't even notice the ears till you said somehting :lol:
Someone will have to make us a morph for them ;)
A face and body morph would be nice too :D

I may have to get into making body morphs and textures.... drool

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Quote - You all can do for yourselves.

 

You realize, all the money you spend on Poser content could pay for heavy modeling and texturing tools.

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Which is all well and good except I struggle modelling a cube rolls eyes  Seriously modelling and I do not get on, it's like asking a mouse to eat a cow.

 

 

Well - if the mouse is truly motivated, the cow better watch her ass.

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I can do textures, not as well as a merchant, but still usable stuff. 
Modeling? I lack the skill, talent and patience for it. 
It's actually more cost effective for me to buy the item rather than spend hours trying to make something.

Mindvision's G2 Casual Suit is pretty close to the Versace style

http://www.contentparadise.com/us/user/g2_casual_suit_product_23658

You guys who are having a hard time with modelling, give Wings a try.  I'm getting to grips with it - nothing worth showing yet, though - and it's dead easy to learn the basics.

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Quote - > Quote - You all can do for yourselves.

 
You realize, all the money you spend on Poser content could pay for heavy modeling and texturing tools.

 

In time I'll be able to do more than buy content. I've read threads...even asked about modelling and it seems a HUGE undertaking. Responses overwhelmed me. I knew very little about the tools they were discribing. I envy...not because free modellers aren't around, but because I wish to have 5 yrs behind me and much more knowledge of Poser. I'm still learning and only know the basics . If I tried anything now, I'd be putting the cart before the horse. 

I'm a quick study, but I do tend to follow the letter of the law so if you say, "Go to Z" I go to Z then someone else comes in with a deviation that is much shorter. Very literal, but in time, I will know more. A few years from now, I'll know little shortcuts. :) I just need to be patient. Hey...we've all had to pay our dues. Buying gives back to the commuity. Even the professionals bought before they modelled. 

Sam---I have wings downloaded but it seems no one can point me to a tutorial on how to make clothing. All the stuff I've come across were little alien models or cartoon characters. I even asked in the Wings forum and still couldn't get a tut link.

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - You all can do for yourselves.

 
You realize, all the money you spend on Poser content could pay for heavy modeling and texturing tools.

 

In time I'll be able to do more than buy content. I've read threads...even asked about modelling and it seems a HUGE undertaking. Responses overwhelmed me. I knew very little about the tools they were discribing. I envy...not because free modellers aren't around, but because I wish to have 5 yrs behind me and much more knowledge of Poser. I'm still learning and know only the basics. I'm still trying to get lighting down. If I tried anything now, I'd be putting the cart before the horse. 

i'm a quick study, but I do tend to follow the letter of the law so if you say, "Go to Z" I go to Z then someone else comes in with a deviation that is much shorter. Very literal, but in time, I will know more. A few years from now, I'll know little shortcuts. :) I just need to be patient. Hey...we've all had to pay our dues. Buying gives back to the commuity. Even the professionals bought before they modelled. 

Sam---I have wings downloaded but it seems no one can point me to a tutorial on how to make clothing. All the stuff I've come across were little alien models or cartoon characters. I even asked in the Wings forum and still couldn't get a tut link.

 

I haven't even thought about making clothes yet.  Well, I've thought about it but not started anything.  At the moment I'm working on simpler, static props.  I've made a couple of fantasy style buildings, a few space helmets and I'm finishing off a guitar amp head.

At least it's going to give you a feel for planning things out and working in a modelling environment.  The on site tutorials are worth following because they all use principles you can apply to other models.

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On the Wings site there's a tut on how to model a face and although you get aquainted with certain tools, which will come in handy when modelling clothes, it's still not helpful for me. You don't know if this tool for one is ONLY for what you're making at the time, or  if it can be applied to other things. Now if I'm following one for clothing, I know they're used for clothing. In my Practical Poser book, I read about modelling in Lightwave and while I do grasp the procedure is the same with any modeller, I  wasn't able to fully learn. The first time something is presented to me I need  two things 1) to have step by step instructions and 2)to be able to do it as I'm reading. Words alone won't do. The modelling was done in Lightwave and so I woul've needed lightwave to be able to follow along.

I don't think there is such a thing as a tutorial on how to model clothes. Modelling clothes fir Poser figures, in just about any 3D modeller is a fairly advanced process. 

Knowing how to make them comes out of experience modelling smaller pieces... then once a person is familiar with the tools in the application and shapes and objects those tools make, that can be put together into making a piece of clothing or something else organic.

In other words, there really is no 'straight path' to modelling something as complex.

You can't go wrong with going through tutorials on how to model simpler things, and how to model organic shapes.. Even if they're not clothes.  When making clothes, you'll end up using most of the tools that a modelling application has.

Start with modelling in general. How to make clothes will sort of fall into place once your modelling skills get to a certain level. We all started with making squares and circles and simple things first :)

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If you want to see how things are made, in general terms, a good source of info is the tutorials and "the making of" section on 3D total:
http://www.3dtotal.com/ffa/tutorials/tutorialsmax.asp

This particular one has a good description of clothes and accessories modelling:
http://www.3dtotal.com/ffa/tutorials/max/joanofarc/joanmenu.asp

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Thank you ConnieKat. I'll read up and see what..if anything...I'm able to do at this point.  I'd love to go beyond the "simple skirt" that's already free in the marketplace to making jeans. 

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Also interested in making conforming hair and shoes. I'm too big for my britches! LOL

Another way of learning is looking at the meshes you purchased, especially of the high end vendors, and seeing how they do things.
You'll see a fair amount of variation in how they make the details like folds and creases and button holes etc...
Then there's UV mapping and texturing, which can sometimes make or break a model...
There's a lot to learn. Just keep plugging away at it.

Modelling is not for those whom get frustrated easily.
Personally, my obsessive streak is stronger then my tendenct to get frustrated... so I just keep plugging away at it ;)
Practice practice practice, then practice some more.

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I think that's the thing with Poser. As a newbie, you arrive wanting to reproduce Yannek's work. I remember first coming around these parts and seeing someone ask for Victorian shoes, you whipped it up in no time.  Just the other day Ockham wanted something so whipped it up him/herself. In less than two days also whipped up EJ shoes. 

I need a few years to go bye!!!!! LOL

And yes, I'm willing to learn and to keep at it. My nature wouldn't allow me to do otherwise. :)

Yea, it takes time.
I've been playing with vector graphics, cad, 3d and photoshop for a very long time... like 20 years or so, starting with CAD applications, and I have schooling in deconstructing things, making plans etc...  
I should be a lot better at it then I am :lol:
Anyway, what I'm trying to say is, you're right in saying you need to give yourself time.
It all depends on how muct time you have to spend on it, and whether you had any pre existing technical or crafty knowledge that you can translate into 3D.
You'll get there :)

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Did someone say shoes? I've got every pair made for Aiko, V3 and V4 so far and then some!

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There's no such thing as too many shoes... or too many poser models.
Do your shoes have a whole separate runtime just for themselves?

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Going straight to modeling and rigging clothing will probably be pretty frustrating - but who knows, maybe you'll have a great time.  My advice would be start with something simpler, creating conforming clothing is vastly harder than people take it for initially, because it's not just a modeling task, it's modeling AND rigging (and texturing, and uvmapping)

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I find clothing creation to be easy--though time-consuming. Still, it takes a tiny fraction of the time you would spend creating and rigging a figure for Poser. At the risk of sounding like a broken record or paid advertisement, I cannot overstate just how easy Modo makes modeling compared with every other program I've used (and the list is extensive.)

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