Forum: Bryce

Subject: The Story of the SOW

FranOnTheEdge opened this issue on Nov 30, 2007 · 64 posts

FranOnTheEdge posted Fri, 30 November 2007 at 8:46 AM

The point about the SOW is that it has been said that everyone, when they first get their hands on Bryce - immediately they stick a shiny sphere over a water plane and press render.

S.O.W. = Sphere Over Water.

The trick however is to create something that is undeniably "a sphere", pretty much "over, under or through, water"  (or some surface with some sort of reflection) but to do something a bit different with it before pressing the render button.

So I was thinking, how about everybody trying to come up with some sort of twist on the S.O.W.?

Not compulsory, just have a play with it if you feel like it.

Here are a few examples:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1077757&member
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=976476&member

And it doesn't have to be exactly a sphere, here someone has taken the SOW concept and using metaballs, come up with this:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=672033

And...

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=503015

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SndCastie posted Fri, 30 November 2007 at 9:38 AM

sounds interesting where would we post them LOL


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Rayraz posted Fri, 30 November 2007 at 10:54 AM

http://www.cgsphere.com/ <-- something like this? :-)

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ThunderStone posted Fri, 30 November 2007 at 12:32 PM

Quote - http://www.cgsphere.com/ <-- something like this? :-)

Interesting!!! Thanks for the welcome... :m_grin:


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aprilgem posted Fri, 30 November 2007 at 1:10 PM

Quote - The point about the SOW is that it has been said that everyone, when they first get their hands on Bryce - immediately they stick a shiny sphere over a water plane and press render.

I have actually never, EVER done that. I must be a freak. :)

FranOnTheEdge posted Fri, 30 November 2007 at 2:10 PM

**SndCastie,
**Well, WIP's to this thread say, and finished renders post to your gallery and paste a link to them in this thread... how's that?

You could just post here if you like.  No need for the gallery if you don't want.  I've a feeling any of my SOW's wouldn't be good enough for the gallery - but as you can see from the links, some are.

**Rayraz,
**Possibly, possibly, but where's the water or similarly reflective substance?  And I should have said - comfy chairs will no doubt be ready and waiting for anyone who veers from the path of Bryce righteousness, courtesy of The Bryster.

Or anyone else who's got one handy....

**ThunderStone,
**Welcome.  Are you game then?

**aprilgem,
**Um... I don't think I have either, don't remember doing one anyway.  So maybe now's the time to try something?

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electroglyph posted Fri, 30 November 2007 at 2:41 PM

Here You go. A female Pig is also called a sow.

FranOnTheEdge posted Fri, 30 November 2007 at 4:13 PM

Well... someone had to.

Lol

Um... your sow isn't very shiny, is it?  :tongue2:

Although I suppose... to be strictly accurate, that would make it a SSOW.

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SndCastie posted Fri, 30 November 2007 at 5:44 PM

Ok I never did one either I started playing with terrains and such so this will be new to me LOL


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Rayraz posted Fri, 30 November 2007 at 6:34 PM

and who says the pig isnt shiny on the inside?
also, who saysd the pig is female?

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FranOnTheEdge posted Fri, 30 November 2007 at 8:12 PM

Rayraz,

Well if it's not a sow, what's it doing in the pic?  I'm sure that's what electroglyph said... isn't it?

(looks up)

Yup, dat's what he said alright...

You notice that the trotters are not really touching the water - that makes it a sow/SOW, not a SIW.

ROFL!

**SndCastie,

**Well go girl! Go!  Render away.

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ThunderStone posted Fri, 30 November 2007 at 10:39 PM

Quote - **SndCastie,
**
**ThunderStone,
**Welcome.  Are you game then?

Yeah I'm game... As a matter of fact, I am going to upload the sphere over at the CGsphere. And a different one here of course, when I get both of them ready ...


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bikermouse posted Sat, 01 December 2007 at 4:13 AM

When I first got poser I did UHIATWAH (Uncle Harry in a Temple with a Helmut) instead of the traditional NVIATWAS . . . as I recall he was lookin' for women ... but yes ... I did the spere thing with Bryce . . . I was so ashamed I never told anyone - until now.

FranOnTheEdge posted Sat, 01 December 2007 at 7:02 AM

I am trying to do one now.  Got an idea for a different reflective surface... just not sure what to do about the sphere part...

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electroglyph posted Sat, 01 December 2007 at 8:18 AM

How About this? Spears over Water

SndCastie posted Sat, 01 December 2007 at 12:39 PM

Here is mine I call it planet maker LOL


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FranOnTheEdge posted Sat, 01 December 2007 at 2:12 PM

Electroglyph,

Oooh, lots of spheres!  Nice.  Now I've got to find out how you do that.

**SndCastie,

**Cor!  What an interesting take on this. Love the blue light on the water.

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bikermouse posted Sat, 01 December 2007 at 4:05 PM

Electroglyph, LOL at least she has her clothes on; Yes, tell Fran that. 

SndCastie, I like that ! !

SndCastie posted Sat, 01 December 2007 at 4:36 PM

Thank you :O)


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FranOnTheEdge posted Sat, 01 December 2007 at 7:14 PM

**SndCastie,
**How did you do the blue light? I mean how far above is it, how strong a light, what sort of blue did you set it to?, and of course the water mat will make a difference too...

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SndCastie posted Sat, 01 December 2007 at 8:17 PM

It is  not a light it is a sky from Daz and the water is from Daz just took the fog off and brought the Haze down on it. Nothing else that is the way it turned out. These are presets  you get with Bryce and it is in the fantasy ones.


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Sophies posted Sat, 01 December 2007 at 9:18 PM

Here is my sow(s) . Bryce keeps kraching on me if i try to render with shadows enabled so there isn't any shadows at all in the render , but there is some sow(s)  :)

SndCastie posted Sat, 01 December 2007 at 9:35 PM

Nice one Sophies


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Sophies posted Sat, 01 December 2007 at 9:53 PM

Thank you  Sand Castie . Youre  were so nice to .)   "Sophie"

Sophies posted Sat, 01 December 2007 at 10:36 PM

snd CASTIE . I hope you can forgive me for my bad English . I have broblems with strog medicine due to a bad reumathical illnes and i have a lot of brain-fog thet aqtually  not help me to write in foreign languages , its hard but i am doing best   "Sophie"

SndCastie posted Sat, 01 December 2007 at 11:03 PM

Not a problem :O)


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ThunderStone posted Sun, 02 December 2007 at 2:49 AM

Here's my SOW... This goes to prove that I definitely do lack imagination and a sense of humor. :m_wink:


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bikermouse posted Sun, 02 December 2007 at 5:20 AM

OK just to be sure ... and a test of b55 (free) ... thanks Bobby  (I think)!

How many bikermice does it take to screwup a lightglobe?? 

One bikermouse; many lightglobes!!  

SndCastie posted Sun, 02 December 2007 at 10:46 AM

Nice one Thunderstone love the mat you used

Whooo there bikermice it is the attack of the light globe's LOL good one.


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FranOnTheEdge posted Sun, 02 December 2007 at 12:29 PM

Wooo! Lots of nice new SOWs.

**Sophies,
**Very nice, looks like you put a good deal of work into that, I especially like the ripples under the closest beachball.  might be nice to see a larger version, if you have one, as it's a bit hard to tell what the thing with the wing is, in this small image.

**SndCastie,
**I'll have to have a hunt through the fantasy skies, hadn't really looked at them much.

**ThunderStone,
**But those balls are definitely shiny, you can definitely see that they are reflecting their surroundings.  Oh, and there's water, so it fills all the requirements.  Great!

**bikermouse,

**Uho, I think they're coming to get me!!!  Arrrgghhhh!

Lol

Mine's not complex but I would decide to use IBL... so the dratted thing is still rendering, I wouldn't mind but I'm not convinced it'll be worth the wait.

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Sophies posted Sun, 02 December 2007 at 1:57 PM

Hi  Fran . The winged thingie is the Toon-Vulture from Daz . The water ripples are made in the terrain editor with a photoshop-filter .  The ground is a texture i made in DTE and applied to the default infinite ground plane . The water and the land is only one texture (One of my Experiments :) The bad thing is that i can' t find a way to control the reflections the way i want them in the DTE  ( I  don' t  want to have  reflections all over the place like they are now , i want to have them to show up only in the watery part of the texture but no such luck :(  I think this is why my new dual-core computer can ' t render this picture with shadows enabled in Bryce ( Reflections on the infinite plane AND shadows enabled at the same time seems to be a real killer :(  I can post the picture in my gallery  later today .             "Sophie"

Quest posted Sun, 02 December 2007 at 2:15 PM

I'm sure I posted this here somewhere before Fran but here's a variation of S.O.W. I've worked on when having nothing better to do with myself.

Actually each S.O.W. is two spheres one inside the other. The outer one is slightly larger than the inner one and of different material. Then using the design as opacity map to expose the characteristics of the inner sphere. One can come up with some interesting designs. Been thinking of using fractals for the outer design to give a bejeweled effect.

Quest

SndCastie posted Sun, 02 December 2007 at 2:19 PM

Love the mats you used one these.


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Quest posted Sun, 02 December 2007 at 3:10 PM

The materials in the top pic in the last post were all created by me using Photoshop. The material in the bottom pic was also created by me using Apophysis ( a very nice and free Fractal program) originally then converting that image into a black and white opacity map using Photoshop. All maps were 1024x1024 when placed over the individual spheres.

Quest

SndCastie posted Sun, 02 December 2007 at 3:31 PM

Nice job on those


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ThunderStone posted Sun, 02 December 2007 at 3:55 PM

Thanks, Fran... I got another one done that is posted over at 3Dcommune... Wasn't sure if I should post it here. But in any case here is the URL for it: http://www.3dcommune.com/3d/galview.mv?Bryce+chb0SucpY+1191562591

Hope this give new meaning to the sphere in the temple over water?

TS


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pakled posted Sun, 02 December 2007 at 4:09 PM

I did the pig (sow) version a year or so ago, and it was shiny. Unfortunately, it wasn't very popular...;) so I removed it from the gallery. Same model as above, tho..;)

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)

ThunderStone posted Sun, 02 December 2007 at 4:59 PM

Quote - Thanks, Fran... I got another one done that is posted over at 3Dcommune... Wasn't sure if I should post it here. But in any case here is the URL for it: http://www.3dcommune.com/3d/galview.mv?Bryce+chb0SucpY+1191562591

Hope this give new meaning to the sphere in the temple over water?

TS

Fixed the link... now it should work.


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9/11/2001: Never forget...

Smiles are contagious... Pass it on!

Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday

 

ThunderStone posted Sun, 02 December 2007 at 5:51 PM

Quote - http://www.cgsphere.com/ <-- something like this? :-)

How about this one? Done for the holidays... Xmas Balls... It'sstill SOW but with a twist... Sphere over frozen water (Snow is frozen water, isn't it?) I posted at CGsphere... Here's the link:

Xmas Balls

Enjoy one more fun... And while you're there, you might want to look at some of these other Spheres.. Some are IN the water, as well as out of the water.

TS


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Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday

 

SndCastie posted Sun, 02 December 2007 at 7:37 PM

nice one ThunderStone


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bikermouse posted Sun, 02 December 2007 at 9:05 PM

re: Posted Sun, Dec 2, 2007 4:59 pm 
Good sense of color and placement very cool!!

re: Posted Sun, Dec 2, 2007 2:15 pm
Man. you tryin' to scare everybody else off? Most exellent ! !

ThunderStone posted Mon, 03 December 2007 at 11:09 AM

Am doing a series of spheres and posting them in the gallery here. Already posted the first one.
Sphere 1: Hard at Work.

Thanks for turning me on to CGsphere site.  Got some great inspiration and submitted a few only to be shot down by a rating of 5... Guess it's all depends on POV....

I am bummed but not totally... Starting a series of spheroid renders will probably lift me out of the rut...

I'll probably do a story line... NOT!

TS


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9/11/2001: Never forget...

Smiles are contagious... Pass it on!

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Quest posted Mon, 03 December 2007 at 11:58 AM

Nice one indeed ThunderStone and just in time for the Holidays!

Quest

 

FranOnTheEdge posted Mon, 03 December 2007 at 1:17 PM

**ThunderStone,
**That's what I like to see, a different twist.  Excellent Xmas balls, and the woody... in metal... pushing the sphere, very nice idea.

Quest, yes I do remember those spheres, and I still like 'em.

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bikermouse posted Mon, 03 December 2007 at 3:35 PM

Sphere1:hard at work = Sisyphus?[

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/s/sisyphus.html](http://www.pantheon.org/articles/s/sisyphus.html)

ThunderStone posted Mon, 03 December 2007 at 6:38 PM

Quote - Sphere1:hard at work = Sisyphus?[

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/s/sisyphus.html](http://www.pantheon.org/articles/s/sisyphus.html)

We'll see in part 2: hard at work...

TS...
Gonna have to get me a sig to go with the moniker... :b_tonguewink:


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9/11/2001: Never forget...

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Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday

 

Quest posted Mon, 03 December 2007 at 9:52 PM

Another S.O.W. from a later date (metalic Earth) piece called "Earth-Time" using same concept as above.

 

Quest

bikermouse posted Mon, 03 December 2007 at 10:49 PM

Quest that is truely discusting . . . I mean it's so good it makes me wanna go into Bryce, pull every multirep trick I know including making paths and multireping along them (which BTW I think I learned either as Peter Sharp or Brycetech tuts?? ) and come up with something half as good !!! 

Sophies posted Tue, 04 December 2007 at 12:54 AM

Quest , you are making the most beautiful spheres , i realy like them . More please  :-D

Sophies posted Tue, 04 December 2007 at 12:58 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1572408

Maybe it could help with a link to my picture lol . Silly me :-D    :cursing:

FranOnTheEdge posted Tue, 04 December 2007 at 1:44 PM

Quest,

That's lovely, I really like the soft glowing look to the earth globe.

**Sophies,
**Thanks for putting that up, it is much easier to see in the larger form, I see now that you've actually got ripples under all the beachballs, nice.

One thing I would change (and actually there are some shadows) I would put a little bit of reflection onto the beachballs, they look a little flat as it is, and perhaps a touch of specular.

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Quest posted Tue, 04 December 2007 at 3:24 PM

An adorable and lovable little vulture mom with eggs…that's cute! Love her eyes!

Quest

FranOnTheEdge posted Tue, 04 December 2007 at 5:24 PM

Attached Link: Iced Tomato

I got tired of waiting for the anti-aliasing to finish as I'm now sure it's stuck, this is as good as it gets: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1573752

My very first SOW... with a twist.

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Death_at_Midnight posted Tue, 04 December 2007 at 6:48 PM

Here's mine. They are actually fun to do.

Rayraz posted Tue, 04 December 2007 at 8:29 PM

ooh thats so AS-like looking!

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FranOnTheEdge posted Wed, 05 December 2007 at 2:43 AM

DaM,

Yeah, aren't they?  Like the texture on the sphere, and the lighting you've chosen looks very...English woodland actually.  Very nice.

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Quest posted Wed, 05 December 2007 at 8:23 PM

Yes DaM, I like that piece very much. I just love what HDRI can do as a reflective object map feature. It gives it an entirely new dimension that can hardly be achieved through regular reflective mapping. With that I'm in total agreement, and not to detract from your wonderful image, but HDRI  is available in Bryce ver. later than 5.0.1. Your image reminds me I'm an old-timer in Bryce.

As a side note, I'm wondering when Bryce 7.0 is looking to make a debut. I really do not intend to upgrade until well after Bryce 7.0 and even then it still has to show me that it's worth the expenditure before I fork over my hard earned cash since to me, anything after ver. 5.0.1  is really not worth the money to date IMO. I'm sure this topic is food for another thread. And perhaps it should spill over into a new thread.

Suffice it to say that although I can create HDRI effects with my older, higher end 3D graphics packages I hardly think that Bryce beyond 5.0.1 is hardly worth the cost for that feature and as a result I have held off buying into it. Also, I'm sure lack of real feature upgrades in Bryce in such a long time is the reason we don't have any real activity as we once enjoyed in this forum.

Quest

 

Death_at_Midnight posted Wed, 05 December 2007 at 10:10 PM

Bryce 7, I am suspicious, makes me wonder upon Agent Smith's absence. I wouldn't be amazed to learn that he's doing something with DAZ on that.

frogdot posted Thu, 06 December 2007 at 12:45 AM

Here's an old one, showing spheres relaxing by the water (SRBTW)
Day At The Beach

And here's an even older one - Ode To A Sphere

a few other Sphere pics
Small Moons Floating

My Sphere Collection

A Sphere & Redrope

Quest posted Thu, 06 December 2007 at 1:52 AM

LOL…that's beach ball heaven Frogdot, very cool, some collection!

Well, I do hope Bryce 7 has a lot more to offer than just a few sidebar gimmicks.

Quest

FranOnTheEdge posted Thu, 06 December 2007 at 5:52 AM

Wow, frogdot, you've certainly made a lot out of Redrope. Love the beach image, and the 'small moons floating' is very intriguing - sort of Swiftian.

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Rayraz posted Fri, 07 December 2007 at 10:09 AM

I'm rendering the quad-core crippling SOW from rendertime hell :-/

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FranOnTheEdge posted Fri, 07 December 2007 at 1:29 PM

ROFL!

I can't wait.

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Rayraz posted Fri, 07 December 2007 at 5:19 PM

i sorta merged several little tests into one SOW-ish thingy lol

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