RodsArt opened this issue on Jan 04, 2008 · 52 posts
RodsArt posted Fri, 04 January 2008 at 2:32 AM
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Let's take some time to remember 2007 & celebrate 2008, reflect on our previous Bryce Moderator AgentSmith & Welcome the two new Bryce Forum Staff, bobbystahr & ICM,
and finally Create Expressive Imagery with our versatile Bryce.
Challenge Starts Monday, January 7th 2008, and ends Thursday, January 31st 2008 midnight.
Winners will be Announced Thursday, February 7th 2008.
"New & Old". This is pretty open to interpretation.
"New" could be an unopened present, a shiny new watch, a newborn baby, a sunrise which is the start of a new day, a plant just breaking the surface of the ground.
"Old" could be an Old house, something discarded in the trash or forgotten in an attic, maybe an Elder rocking on a porch.
The More Creative the better.
There are 2 Prize Categories, Yes you guessed it, "New" for Bryce 6 users, and "Old" for Bryce 5 and previous version users. Be sure to note in your comments what version you used to create the image because the winner in each category will receive a Prize.
The Prize for each Category Winner will be a $25.00 Renderosity Gift Certificate.
Once the winners are announced, their user accounts will be credited with the Gift-Certificate.
(Post work & imports are allowed, but remember this is a Bryce Challenge)
(Judges will be announced Soon)
Create and Mostly, HAVE FUN!!
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Ockham's razor- It's that simple
bobbystahr posted Fri, 04 January 2008 at 1:40 PM
Good one Rod...
Once
in a while I look around,
I see
a sound
and
try to write it down
Sometimes
they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again
TheBryster posted Sat, 05 January 2008 at 6:50 AM
How to do my head in, with one post.
So, do we have to do 2 renders, one about New and one about Old?
or
One render that takes in the Old & the New?
or
Old in Bryce 5.? - NEW in Bryce 6.?
Sorry but I got problems sequencing.
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All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster
And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...
RodsArt posted Sat, 05 January 2008 at 7:04 AM
LOL, You shoulda tried to write this puppy. I had to proof read it a hundred times.
One Image, Either Old or New....
...Whichever Version of Bryce you have or choose to use, 6+, or 5.5 and previous. List the one you used.
- - - - - -
(hang on another sip of coffee)
Yup, that's it.
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Ockham's razor- It's that simple
SndCastie posted Sat, 05 January 2008 at 9:34 AM
Can admin enter LOL
Sandy
An imagination can create wonderful things
SndCastie's Little
Haven
RodsArt posted Sat, 05 January 2008 at 9:50 AM
OOOPSTY.....
Anyone Can Enter; All Members including Admins,Mods,Coords.
(whew!!)
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Ockham's razor- It's that simple
SndCastie posted Sat, 05 January 2008 at 10:09 AM
LOL thanks
Sandy
An imagination can create wonderful things
SndCastie's Little
Haven
FranOnTheEdge posted Sat, 05 January 2008 at 7:08 PM
So you can't do an image combining old and new?
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
RodsArt posted Sat, 05 January 2008 at 8:10 PM
Sure, Sounds really Creative to me
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Ockham's razor- It's that simple
bobbystahr posted Sun, 06 January 2008 at 2:32 AM
But I would think it would have to be judged from the most recent ver. number as the catagories are Old and New.....A lot of folks may want to use objects they created in pre 6 in their New entry and in that respect it becomes a 6[New] entry object...rendered in 6 = New......rendered pre 6 = Old.....IMHO.. ...
Once
in a while I look around,
I see
a sound
and
try to write it down
Sometimes
they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again
RodsArt posted Sun, 06 January 2008 at 4:56 AM
@ bobby: Exactly
My initial reason for setting 2 judging categories was that Bryce 6 has some advantages over the previous versions, thus Bryce 6 entries will only be judged against other Bryce 6 entries, and the same for previous versions.
So, whatever Engine your final image is rendered in, regardless of the models you use or what version you created the textures in, the Final Factor is the Rendering Version.
I've created B5 files, re-rendered & tweaked them in B6, then rendered them in B6. These would fall into B6 judging.
The Subject matter (Content) matters not in the judging, it's only the theme.
I thought Frans question was pertaining to subject (theme) matter. Old Ring+a new Weddingdress, that sort of thing. Please correct me if I misread this.
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Ockham's razor- It's that simple
Ang25 posted Sun, 06 January 2008 at 11:58 AM
Just one more Q, (not that it matters to me, I barely have time to do one render), but it is only one entry per person correct?
ps Sounds like a lot of fun, hope I can find some time to work on it.
bobbystahr posted Sun, 06 January 2008 at 1:24 PM
Why would you want to render in Ver. 5.x when you have Ver. 6.x ?.. ...
Once
in a while I look around,
I see
a sound
and
try to write it down
Sometimes
they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again
danamo posted Sun, 06 January 2008 at 5:52 PM
"Why would you want to render in Ver. 5.x when you have Ver. 6.x ?.. ..." I render animations occasionally in Bryce5 because that version will still allow you to animate materials and terrains/lattices which I can use either in Bryce or in other apps. As far as I know this feature is still "broken" in Bryce6. I'm sure ver.6 with its HDRIs and image-based lighting can still give you a superior render for still images.
SndCastie posted Mon, 07 January 2008 at 6:02 AM
Ok question do you have to model your own stuff or can you use some models you have gotten as I don't model LOL
Sandy
An imagination can create wonderful things
SndCastie's Little
Haven
FranOnTheEdge posted Mon, 07 January 2008 at 8:48 AM
Quote - @ bobby: Exactly
My initial reason for setting 2 judging categories was that Bryce 6 has some advantages over the previous versions, thus Bryce 6 entries will only be judged against other Bryce 6 entries, and the same for previous versions.
So, whatever Engine your final image is rendered in, regardless of the models you use or what version you created the textures in, the Final Factor is the Rendering Version.
I've created B5 files, re-rendered & tweaked them in B6, then rendered them in B6. These would fall into B6 judging.The Subject matter (Content) matters not in the judging, it's only the theme.
I thought Frans question was pertaining to subject (theme) matter. Old Ring+a new Weddingdress, that sort of thing. Please correct me if I misread this.
That's exactly what I meant, Rod - the theme. Thanks. I immediately had an idea when I first saw the description of the theme - as you said, and old and new in one image.
I often use 5.5 because the 'object import' is still broken in B6 - any version. In that imported objects arrive totally black and take no notice of the .mtl file - if you put an green colour or an orange or whatever colour you like onto a face in Wings, B6 will show that 'colour' as (usually) pink - but only when you soop up the diffuse. B5.5 however shows the model with the correct colours.
B6 does have much better lighting do I often render in that when I want a particularly good end result.
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
TheBryster posted Mon, 07 January 2008 at 8:52 AM
*I often use 5.5 because the 'object import' is still broken in B6 - any version.
*?? Works for me....I got B6 and I can import stuff.
:b_confused:
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All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster
And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...
bobbystahr posted Mon, 07 January 2008 at 8:53 AM
It does sound like an image contest and not a modeling contest to me so it seems as if you can pretty well use anything model wise you have. I know I'm using some items I made previously in another app as I still can't model worth a damn with booleans.. ...
Once
in a while I look around,
I see
a sound
and
try to write it down
Sometimes
they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again
TheBryster posted Mon, 07 January 2008 at 8:57 AM
I don't ever recall us having a modelling contest; 'cept when me and Draculaz went head to head on the Crystal Palace, and of course when Danamo raised his head above the parapet for the Flying Scotsman thing.....
Our monthly challenges are usually 'get in on the screen anyway you can' kinda thing.
Available on Amazon for the Kindle E-Reader
All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster
And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...
SndCastie posted Mon, 07 January 2008 at 9:05 AM
great thanks all
Sandy
An imagination can create wonderful things
SndCastie's Little
Haven
bobbystahr posted Mon, 07 January 2008 at 9:38 AM
@ Bryster...yup..that's the impression I had as well...tho a modeling comp might be fun...It may just be the push I need....hmmmm, it advanced my ability in Imagine even tho I never came close to winning there so it could be fun here as well.. ...
Once
in a while I look around,
I see
a sound
and
try to write it down
Sometimes
they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again
electroglyph posted Mon, 07 January 2008 at 2:53 PM
So if you make an antique in Bryce 6 is it new or old?
RodsArt posted Mon, 07 January 2008 at 3:27 PM
Yes
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Ockham's razor- It's that simple
bobbystahr posted Mon, 07 January 2008 at 4:22 PM
LOL.. ...
Once
in a while I look around,
I see
a sound
and
try to write it down
Sometimes
they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again
bobbystahr posted Tue, 08 January 2008 at 5:58 PM
*CONTEST LINK IN FIRST POST
Once
in a while I look around,
I see
a sound
and
try to write it down
Sometimes
they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again
FranOnTheEdge posted Wed, 09 January 2008 at 5:13 AM
You mean your wings models do not appear looking like this in B6?
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
FranOnTheEdge posted Wed, 09 January 2008 at 5:15 AM
Hmmm... I think I'm having another idea on this challenge now...
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
skiwillgee posted Wed, 16 January 2008 at 9:37 PM
Fran, I've imported from Poser5 into Bryce 6 with no mat problems other than Bryce says it can't find the mats but they all work out okay anyhow.
SndCastie posted Wed, 16 January 2008 at 9:48 PM
Well sometimes Poser 7 obj's crash Bryce 6.1 for me sometimes they don't not sure why LOL
Sandy
An imagination can create wonderful things
SndCastie's Little
Haven
FranOnTheEdge posted Thu, 17 January 2008 at 7:09 AM
If you import from Daz into Bryce6 - this also fixes the black import problem - but my point is that in Bryce5 - an extra step like that wasn't necessary - therefore Bryce6 is broken.
Hmmm, Sandy, that's a puzzling one. But luckily for me I don't have Poser7. (baskes in that knowledge) Lol.
Um... I was just wondering - there's an update to Bryce 6.1 - I wondered if that would fix your problem?
There's some very odd numbering going on with bryce after B6, so all I was told (with my black import problem) was to reset the B6 in my download history at DAZ - and the newest version of B6 point whatever would be available.
If it was, it was renumbered as B6, not B6.1 or B6.1.14.whatever - just plain b6.
Naturally the black import was NOT fixed....
But you still might want to give it a go...
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
SndCastie posted Thu, 17 January 2008 at 7:33 AM
Well I just redid it about a month ago lol and still have that problem. I don't use DazStudio that much so not sure. I still think them messing with the code to include the DazStudio has caused problems with it.
Sandy
An imagination can create wonderful things
SndCastie's Little
Haven
TheBryster posted Thu, 17 January 2008 at 8:55 AM
Fran: I don't use wings. Only Heretics use wings. Wings is not on the list of Blessed Apps...However, and theres' a reason for this....you could try exporting FROM wings in a different format.
Cardinal Bryster
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All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster
And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...
FranOnTheEdge posted Fri, 18 January 2008 at 1:55 PM
Dear Cardinal Bryster,
Yes sir, your worshipfullness. I will immediately try exporting from the great heretic app in something other than .obj.
(following the big green book of Cardinal Fang, "Ways to keep on CB's best side and avoid certain nasty, hot, pointy implements, aka The Soft Cushion")
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
TheBryster posted Fri, 18 January 2008 at 2:01 PM
At last!!! A woman who knows her place in my world!
:tt2::tt2::tt2::tt2::tt2::tt2:
Available on Amazon for the Kindle E-Reader
All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster
And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...
bobbystahr posted Fri, 18 January 2008 at 3:32 PM
I am fervently hoping some of this chatter leads to more entries in Old and New....LOL.. ...
Once
in a while I look around,
I see
a sound
and
try to write it down
Sometimes
they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again
FranOnTheEdge posted Fri, 18 January 2008 at 7:00 PM
Quote - At last!!! A woman who knows her place in my world!
:tt2::tt2::tt2::tt2::tt2::tt2:
Of course the little fact that you knew something about a heretical app that I didn't... is slightly suspicious.
Not because I didn't, but because *you **did!
***strolls off nonchalently
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
Death_at_Midnight posted Fri, 18 January 2008 at 8:20 PM
It's all about "know thy enemy"... art of warfare.
boekenwuurm posted Sat, 19 January 2008 at 10:05 AM
So... There is a special place for woman in the bryce world? I didn't know that.
FranOnTheEdge posted Sat, 19 January 2008 at 10:14 AM
Yes, it's at the top...
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
boekenwuurm posted Sat, 19 January 2008 at 11:46 AM
Right!
I thought so!
FranOnTheEdge posted Sat, 19 January 2008 at 12:46 PM
Good, so remember that. (severely)
Lol
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
bobbystahr posted Sat, 19 January 2008 at 12:56 PM
Always prefer that myself....someone to blame....LOL.. ...
Once
in a while I look around,
I see
a sound
and
try to write it down
Sometimes
they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again
FranOnTheEdge posted Sat, 19 January 2008 at 2:19 PM
That's what underlings are for.
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
bobbystahr posted Sat, 19 January 2008 at 2:29 PM
But you said to do it that way boss.....is how I, thru my migraine, meant it...off to bed with a cold pack for te rest of 2 day now..see y'all t'morra.. ...
Once
in a while I look around,
I see
a sound
and
try to write it down
Sometimes
they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again
FranOnTheEdge posted Sat, 19 January 2008 at 3:06 PM
Lol!
Hope your migraine gets better soon - or rather I hope that now - it being tomorrow by the time you read this - that you are better.
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
electroglyph posted Mon, 21 January 2008 at 12:19 PM
As long as she's willing to do the work I don't mind a woman being on top.
Back to the subject at hand however... I've had things come in black before. It was usually because the ambient setting was 3 or some such low number, not because the maps or color were actually gone. I can often ungroup then crank the values up to 90 to fix it. Just be sure to do it out of the way of other objects in the scene. It's easier to grab everything and regroup it afterwords.
bobbystahr posted Mon, 21 January 2008 at 1:31 PM
Migraine gone....pain the a** still there, tho mychiropractor seems to think he can get it out.. ...
Once
in a while I look around,
I see
a sound
and
try to write it down
Sometimes
they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again
FranOnTheEdge posted Tue, 22 January 2008 at 2:04 PM
**Well I don't think it's that the colour maps are gone exactly just that in B6 they are ignored and in B5.5 they are used.
For instance...
Here the image shows the cube as made in wings (inset) and the cube with the ambience all the way down to nothing is on the left and the one with the ambience all the way up to full is on the right - both as you see are dead black - this is in B6.
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
FranOnTheEdge posted Tue, 22 January 2008 at 2:10 PM
Now what you won't realise is that the side of the cube that appears to be bright green - is actually the pink side in wings. The top (here pink,) is actually meant to be yellow, and the side facing left, which looks purple - is actually the orange side.
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
FranOnTheEdge posted Tue, 22 January 2008 at 2:13 PM
The way they should do.
Phew! - Bobby, glad your migraine's better, just saw your post while replying to electroglyph.
You know, it's almost like B6 is using negative colours - the way Bryce produces colours under negative intensity light... isn't that odd.
P.S. if I'm at the top, I believe in delegating the work load. *cracks big whip.
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
electroglyph posted Wed, 23 January 2008 at 11:30 AM
That darn division by negative one! Get's em every time.
Don't get me started on booleans and terrains and animating materials while you are at it. There is a lot of busted stuff in B6. Now I'm getting a migrane.
You are talking about material definitions not image maps right? Sorry for the confusion. I was thinking you ment textures like you slap on a Vicki. You are talking about actually setting the object color in the mat file. I think this is something DAZ will have to fix.
FranOnTheEdge posted Wed, 23 January 2008 at 7:01 PM
Yeah an .mtl file, B6 seems to be taking some information from it, but not interpreting it correctly.
"I think this is something DAZ will have to fix."
We wait with bated breath....
(expression of extreme sceptisism)
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)