softcris opened this issue on Feb 26, 2008 · 8 posts
softcris posted Tue, 26 February 2008 at 3:36 PM
Hi you all!
So much expended in nice,cool stuff for Aiko3,V3,SP3 and Petite and ...well guess you know the novel too...
I heard or read somewhere that's a script or else that makes all those others models clothes to fit V4.
Do you know where I find it?
I got a Hair fits V4 (made by SVDL BTW)- works fine, it's lots of work but ..ok you still can use the old stuff in the new girl.
Thanks to give me the tip.
Yours sincerely,
Cris
"'you shut up! or I'll
bring democracy to your country! "
Cris
Galvão aka Softcris - www.crisgalvao.com
(or softcris,
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-BrandyE- posted Tue, 26 February 2008 at 3:52 PM
You can download CrossDresser (the software if free) and then buy the V4 plugin for it from EvilInnocence :)
Brandy
softcris posted Tue, 26 February 2008 at 3:55 PM
Quote - You can download CrossDresser (the software if free) and then buy the V4 plugin for it from EvilInnocence :)
where is that CrossDresser?
thanks for the tip..
"'you shut up! or I'll
bring democracy to your country! "
Cris
Galvão aka Softcris - www.crisgalvao.com
(or softcris,
SoftCris)
Rendering since 1997 and
at Renderosity since 1999.
OS
Win 8.1 64 bit
markschum posted Tue, 26 February 2008 at 3:58 PM
theres also wardrobe wizard , and a few others . Philc has one .
Crossdresser you only pay for the plugin for the figure being converted TO , so its all figures supported TO V4 for $10 .
-BrandyE- posted Tue, 26 February 2008 at 3:59 PM
Its its www.EvilInnocence.com
Brandy
AnAardvark posted Wed, 27 February 2008 at 3:38 PM
The problem with crossdresser is that it only converts to the basic, unmorphed version of the figure. Wardrobe Wizard will preserve existing full-body-morphs, and can convert to a morphed version of the target figure (and can take morphs from the target figure.) It can get a little messy with dial turning, but I've found the conversions more flexible and also generally better. (Cross dresser does, however, convert gloves.)
I would say that about 2/3 of the Wardrobe Wizard conversions I made needed no tweaking, and about 1/4 needed some tweaking, and about 1/12 needed tweaking the joint parameters.
AnAardvark posted Thu, 28 February 2008 at 1:10 PM
Quote - ..and I just read somewher that no ONE of these<are 100% solution.
The one Daz sells is a great disapointment...concerning coversions to V4! Caution!
Phil C. is not complete too..get and get that to each figure.
so on...
I was just wondering...got loads of clothles and stuff from Gen 0, Gen 1,Gen 2 and 3.
So..it's like cd after cd full of Victoria an P4 stuff..cute and beautifull stuff really...can't use anymore....:(
Loads of A3 and V3 stuff as well...nothing goes along with new generation...I think Daz and e-Frontier should gives us a break and release a FREE software that converts decently the stuff from generations before to today's Gen.
Conversion is hard. After a number of years, and a lot of effort, we still don't have one-button conversions. Even Wardrobe Wizard 2 requires a bit of work for converting clothes which have significant morphs contained only in a specific body part. (Many dresses, for example, have sit and walk morphs in the hip area.) I've been using Poser for a year and a half, and only in the last few months have even halfway decent converters been developed.
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See who does have the Egiptian clotles made for Vic and Mike? These are amazing stuff. Today Daz sells same, exactly same with another name for V4! 15 .00 or else for something you already got in your old cd!
No, these are not exactly the same. The new ones have more morphs, have more sophisticated shaders etc. They also have more detailed morphs. The old ones are nice, the new ones are nicer, and I have both. (Though I haven't actually done anything but goof around a bit with them.) And they look sufficiently different that it is useful to have both sets. One of the problems with poserdom in general is that very often, for historical clothes of a given period, there is only one set, and there is a limit to what can be done via retexturing.
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So I clapp my hands for guys like 3Dream who makes a hair meshes and so quick a new model shows up he, gives away an update patch for fitting the new model! That's really cool and friendly!
So I guess we should talk more about it so MAYBE Daz will do the same! Hopefully...or maybe I dreaming...;(
I appreciate what the hair designers have done, but it is a lot easier to update hair. For prop hair, fitting matfiles are essentially just translation and scaling. (For example, last night I refitted Batlabs "twintail" hair for A4 in about three minutes.) For character hair, it isn't that much more complicated. My impression is, though, that it is a little more work (on the order of several hours) to introduce new morphs into clothing (and this is for the figure that the clothing was made for.) I remember using morph master (I think that was the name) from DAZ to add morphs, and it required some tinkering to get them correct. It also wasn't very good for drastic morphs (like male morphs for female figures). I think that the clothing creators often use magnet sets to get the "90%" solution, but then still have to take the clothing into a real 3D editing program for fine tuning. If you add on the time it takes to run it through quality control, and build the installers, you are talking about a fair amount of time. I think it was quite reasonable for DAZ to sell the A4 updates for some of their popular V4 clothes for $1.99 each.
As for converting from one figure to another -- this is pretty intensive, and probaby about as third as much work as creating the figure in the first place. If you look at some of the artists here who sell the same clothing for multiple figures, the cost for a product containing two versions (A3 and V3, or A3 and V4 etc.) is about 75% the cost of buying the two individual products.
Conniekat8 posted Thu, 28 February 2008 at 3:05 PM
*As for converting from one figure to another -- this is pretty intensive, and probaby about as third as much work as creating the figure in the first place. If you look at some of the artists here who sell the same clothing for multiple figures, the cost for a product containing two versions (A3 and V3, or A3 and V4 etc.) is about 75% the cost of buying the two individual products.
*I'd like to second this statement. there's no quick and easy way for content creators to convert clothes between figures. As a matter of fact, some use the tools mentioned here (Cross dresser, Wardrobe Wizard and few others) to get them started with the process.
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