TomDart opened this issue on Mar 27, 2008 · 18 posts
TomDart posted Thu, 27 March 2008 at 4:47 PM
There are a few sensor cleaning kits on the market that look pretty good, even those for the tin oxide coating Nikon uses in the filter part.
Why do I mention this? The local service place will clean for free...but the kicker is they sell you the cleaning kit for $60!
About $50 will get me a good kit suitable for Nikon (though not recommended or approved by Nikon) with 12 swabs.
Do you clean your own? TomDart.
aegipan posted Thu, 27 March 2008 at 5:20 PM
Hello,
Just for information : I'm using my Canon EOS 5D for more than 2 years now. This camera is (still) one of the best available in the digital world (IQ price rating) but sadly don't have a dust sensor cleaning system and believe me on a full frame camera dust have place to play.
Here they charge you (approx.) 45$ for cleaning the sensor and of course you have to go to the service center and so on. So since the beginning (EOS 20D) I use the visible dust arctic butterfly system. I know it's quite expensive but it's very effective it's non aggressive solution (based on electrostatic, you don't touch the sensor AA filter ) but the best of all it's always with me in my camera bag so I can make a "cleaning" on the way. Of course the first time, you will be very impressed (sure ? may I clean it ... glups). But now I clean even the cameras of friends in about 1 or 2 minutes with confidence.
I've got the full package with cleaning fluids for the sensor and the chamber but In 2 years I've used it 2 or 3 times. The problem with dust spots on the sensor is that you can very quickly go "mad" and paranoiac. In fact avoiding dust on sensor can be pretty simple. Now I clean my sensor every 20 shoots or 10 shoots if I've changed the lens in a "dusty" environment.
On my 40D (with the sensor cleaning system) in about 4 month no sign of dust up to know. ( great relief but in case of emergency my brushes are in my bag.
Of course don't expect Nikon or Canon will recommend those "manual" cleaning systems even if they use them themselves.
Just my 2 cents.
Aegy
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awjay posted Thu, 27 March 2008 at 5:33 PM
i use a sony @100 ...... although it has a dust system it still gets the od bit.... i followed the sensor cleaning on the manual with a blower.. it worked a treat
Radlafx posted Thu, 27 March 2008 at 6:12 PM
yea, i use that Arctic Butterfly® thingy From VisibleDust. I can't find my RocketBlower which means there is still dust on the mirrors. I'm thinking of getting a dust vacuum to clean that stuff (it's only $20-USeh).
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girsempa posted Thu, 27 March 2008 at 6:48 PM
I don't see the need yet to perform any (manual) sensor cleaning. After two years of using the Olympus E-500 and changing lenses, there hasn't been one single speck of dust in sight. So it must be true what they're saying about Olympus' dust reduction system (the most efficient on the market today)...
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NightGallery posted Thu, 27 March 2008 at 8:12 PM
I haven't had to do it myself yet. My EOS and the self cleaning has done well alone. But from posts I have seen on other sites about cleaning the sensor themselves. Most all say the same thing. They were freaked out to do it the first time, now its no big deal and have had no probs.
My thought, if you can handle learning an SLR, you can learn to clean your own sensor without major issues...lol
B
TomDart posted Thu, 27 March 2008 at 8:47 PM
Girsempa, you are a fortunate man to have the self cleaner. NightGallery, I do agree.
Between posts I have ordered the stuff to do it my self. Should be no prob after a time or two, and with two cameras to do a two will after the first time. : )
ejn posted Fri, 28 March 2008 at 3:20 AM
I use the Nikon D100 and after three years of use the sensor had more specs than enough.
I enquired about the sensor cleaning kits but was advised against it by the Nikon dealer.
I had the dealer do it,in the UK it was about £50 but when I considered the damage I might do it seemed a good price.
L8RDAZE posted Fri, 28 March 2008 at 8:01 AM
I have the Visible Dust sensor brushes and a Rocket Blower....its pretty easy and takes 2-3 minutes max to clean the sensor. Once you get over the initial "first time" fear, you'll see how easy it truly is and save yourself alot of dinero down the road!
Onslow posted Fri, 28 March 2008 at 11:44 AM
It seems you have succumbed to temptation TomDart
and ordered the cleaning kit.
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danob posted Sun, 30 March 2008 at 8:28 AM
Good luck with the kit Tom I have found the Rocket blower I have used for over two years works just fine.. Good to hear positive responses from those who have the self cleaning systems built in. though I am still not happy with the idea of them.. Where does the dust end up? On some sticky pads that will need to be replaced at your expense?
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TomDart posted Sun, 30 March 2008 at 12:49 PM
I had the same thought on the sticky pads.
Radlafx posted Sun, 30 March 2008 at 4:53 PM
Attached Link: Miniature Vacuum Brush
ah, i have found the (link to the) lens-vacuum that i'm planning to get.Question the question. Answer the question. Question the
answer...
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TomDart posted Sun, 30 March 2008 at 5:22 PM
With a good battery, the D70 is fine without ac adapter. As for the D200, that should be ok, too.
However, a question I cannot find an answer from Nikon or others:
Does the battery need to be removed to use the AC adapter? No mention is made of it one way or the other.
danob posted Mon, 31 March 2008 at 8:43 AM
Not sure about the Nikon Canon you do have to remove the battery as the device sits in place of them..
Danny O'Byrne http://www.digitalartzone.co.uk/
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SouthBeachPhoto posted Wed, 02 April 2008 at 2:24 PM
Quote - I don't see the need yet to perform any (manual) sensor cleaning. After two years of using the Olympus E-500 and changing lenses, there hasn't been one single speck of dust in sight. So it must be true what they're saying about Olympus' dust reduction system (the most efficient on the market today)...
Well, until you step into an E-3. I have to clean mine about once a month. I've seen a few reports from E-510 owners as well complaining of dust. Some blame it on Live View, some blame it on in-body IS. So it would appear that while still good, Oly's SSWF isn't as great as it used to be.
Like you, I've never seen dust on my E-500, and only once on one of my E-1s.
I use an arctic butterfly and a rocket blower on the E-3. If I ever need a wet cleaning I'll send it in.
Regards,
Steve
Gora posted Mon, 07 April 2008 at 3:31 AM
I bought a cleaning kit some time ago... but a dry kit, not wet... I will upgrading soon to a either a 5D or a Mark II... so I will have to invest in a "wet kit" with swabs etc etc... But Ive heard from some of the newer Nikon owners, that the newer coating will be damaged with the older fluids... Apparently there is a newer type of fluid available for these sensors... I dont use Nikon, but just thought Id mention this.
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TomDart posted Mon, 07 April 2008 at 7:30 AM
Yes, the new fluids are apparently needed. One of these is Eclipse E2 by Photographic Solutions. This is for sensors with a tin oxide coating. Sales sites should tell which cameras require the "tin oxide" safe fluids.