AboranTouristCouncil opened this issue on Apr 24, 2008 · 10 posts
AboranTouristCouncil posted Thu, 24 April 2008 at 8:15 AM
SVDL has a tutorial on how to create displacement maps in Poser using 2nd Skins. I've been trying, largely without success to replicate something simliar in Vue. The net effect is that he subtracts the base skin texture from the 2nd skin texture to create a displacement map. Works well in Poser, but does not work so well in Vue.
I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction.
Here's what I've done so far:
I would include images of my settings, but I'm on a Mac, and haven't learned how to do screen captures yet.
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Trepz posted Thu, 24 April 2008 at 9:44 AM
could you add a mesh texture in Photoshop of your skin and then make a pure white copy of it and use that for your displacement in Vue?
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AboranTouristCouncil posted Thu, 24 April 2008 at 11:39 AM
I'm attempting to do this without having to create additional texture maps.
The end result is that I want to create a texture where a person can input their two texture maps (base texture, then texture with clothing on it (second skin)) and have instant displacement. Much like Silverblade's Dirt mat where one only has to input the texture they want to 'dirty'.
I think I'm on the right track using a distribution map, but can't get true black and white values from the end result of subtracting the two textures. Gray scale is all. And the slightest amount of gray in the distribution gives some pretty wild results...
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FrankT posted Thu, 24 April 2008 at 1:45 PM
can you not run it through one of the clip filters to force it to black and white ?
AboranTouristCouncil posted Thu, 24 April 2008 at 2:29 PM
I've tried various combination of filters, but they tend to set different thresholds of where black and white should fall. This results in blank (leaving base texture) areas where cloth textures should be, and often leaves very noticeable artifact around the edges.
(wish I had screen capture on the Mac to show what I've done.)
Not being overly familair with all the filters and how they work, I've just been putting them in various ways and hoping for the best.
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thlayli2003 posted Thu, 24 April 2008 at 10:43 PM
I don't have a MAC but just did a search and found this.
The basic screen capture is the same for Panther and Leopard.
http://lifehacker.com/341135/leopards-additional-screen-capture-options
AboranTouristCouncil posted Fri, 25 April 2008 at 6:26 AM
Thanks! Pictures will be forth coming today.
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dburdick posted Fri, 25 April 2008 at 11:27 AM
Well you can indeed use the SVDL method in Vue to create displaced second skins but you are not going to get results as good as using a specific grayscale displacement map. Here are a couple of pointers however on how to replicate the SVDL method in Vue:
1. In Poser, Black represents a displacement of zero whereas in Vue it represents a negative displacement. Zero displacement in Vue (and most other graphic programs) is represented by middle gray. So you will need to normalize the computed displacement map in Vue by using a "Map" filter to set all black values (-1) to zero (0). Plug a map filter node into the computed displacement map and set the values as follows:
Input Range Lower : -1
Input Range Upper: +1
Output Range Lower: 0
Input Range Upper: +1
2. In all likelihood, you are going to get displacement artifacts showing up using SVDL's subtraction method due to jpeg compression pixelation issues. You can smooth some of this out by using a "Quantize" filter and then playing with the threshold and contrast settings.
AboranTouristCouncil posted Fri, 25 April 2008 at 11:32 AM
Thanks! I'll give it a try this afternoon!
And thanks for the tip about artifacts. I hadn't considered JPG compression to be the culprit.
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AboranTouristCouncil posted Sat, 26 April 2008 at 9:41 PM
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