Smith Micro Software, Inc. and the Poser team are pleased to announce that the Poser 7 English Service Release 3 (SR3) is now available for both Macintosh and Windows. SR3 will update any previous version of Poser 7 English to the latest version 7.04. SR3 offers several enhancements and addresses known issues present in the following areas:

• General performance and stability updates and improvements
• FireFly and Preview Rendering
• PoserPython updates and improvements
• Material Room, Face Room, Hair Room, Cloth Room, Setup Room and Content Room updates and improvements
• Talk Designer
• Walk Designer
• Animation
• Hierarchy Editor
• File I/O
• Parameter/Properties Palette
• Includes updates found in all previous service releases

In order to download Poser 7 SR3 or receive technical support for the product, you must have registered your Poser 7 application serial number. If you have not yet done so, please register now.

With your registered your Poser 7 serial number, you can access and download SR3 for Windows or Macintosh.

In the following post is the full list of Poser 7 English SR3 enhancements and fixes, by category.

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Poser 7 English SR3 enhancements and fixes, by category:

General

-Improved stability after morph targets have been injected.
-Now updating conforming figure preview after applying Figure symmetry.
-Now preserving parenting when undoing Point At.
-Improved text width calculation for multi-byte characters (Mac OS X only).
-Improved stability upon deleting figure with parented camera.
-Enabled undo for changes 'Casts shadows' property.
-Enabled undo for changes to Parameter settings.
-Now also prepending morph target channels created via 'Split morph' to avoid distortion when applied and figure is bent.
-Fixed case where pressing Home or End keys could cause Poser to exit.
-Now pre-selecting text in text entry fields whenever possible.
-Now preventing side effects when duplicating light source.
-Now keeping focus on Graph palette while clicking & dragging beyond palette boundaries.
-Making QuickTime movie with 2D Motion blur now works properly (Mac OS X only).
-Enabled 2D Motion Blur for Image Sequence rendered in Poser (Mac OS X only).
-Memory dots and custom UI preferences now stored in language-specific sub-directory to facilitate concurrent installation of multiple Poser versions.
-Fixed case where problems with shadow camera parenting would prevent depth map shadows from getting rendered.
-Fixed case where polygon group got accidentally discarded if there were > 32 groups in an OBJ file while multiple group names were specified in the same line.
-Cmd-S shortcut for saving scene now more reliable.
-Improvements to texture map location for preview and rendering

FireFly Render Engine

-Fixed case where rendering multithreaded could cause artifact in first bucket (Windows only).
-Now properly reading greyscale 16-bit TIFF images during shading. Improved loading of EXIF tags in TIFF images.
-Improved quality of raytraced shadows.
-Fixed case in which rendering raytraced reflections with depth-mapped shadows in a separate process could cause instability.
-Now mapping textures more accurately at render time (FireFly only).
-Fixed case where rendering in separate process would cause freeze (Mac OS X Panther & Leopard only).
-Fixed case where some buckets weren't processed during multithreaded rendering.
-Fixed case where applying an HDR IBL set while an animation layer was active would fail.
-Now properly restoring current animation layer selection after applying walk to a new layer.
-Improved multithreaded rendering performance with large textures.
-Improved reliability of FireFly render engine when rendering complex scenes.
-Improved reliability of rendering in a separate process when 3D Motion Blur is enabled.
-Fixed case where HDR images were discarded from render cache early (Windows only).
-Fixed case where certain shader would cause render to fail.
-Fixed case where small-scale features applied to bump or displacement channels would produce rendering artifacts.
-Fixed case where running out of memory during raytracing database setup would cause instability.
-Fixed case where switching off texture filtering would cause artifact to appear at seams of high-res tiled textures.

Preview Render Engine

-Fixed case where line segment geometry could cause instability in OpenGL preview.
-Improved line width (Intel OpenGL only).
-Improved transparency map resolution in Preview mode.

File I/O

-Fixed case in which redundant Center of Mass props were written.
-Now consistently writing relative, platform-neutral paths whenever possible.

Animation

-Now preserving start frame of new layer upon re-opening saved file.

Talk Designer

-Now preserving text when settings are adjusted.
-Improved stability when applying to conforming figures without head morph targets.

Walk Designer

-Now preventing event handling problems after entering text field values on Parameter palette.
-Now properly restoring current animation layer selection after applying walk to a new layer.

Parameter/Properties Palette

-Now preventing instability when recursive value operations on an object's parameters are present.

Hierarchy Editor

-Improved stability of Hierarchy editor.
-Enabled creation of figures from Hierarchy Editor.

Face Room

-Fixed case in which using Space Navigator device in Face room could cause freeze upon applying face.
-Fixed case where repeatedly undoing changes would cause Face Shaping parameters to become inaccessible.

Cloth Room

-Fixed case where simulation data would be lost after re-opening a file with multiple simulators.
-Corrected text field locations (Mac OS X only).

Hair Room

Improved quality of dynamic hair simulation results for Bend Resistance values >0.

Material Room

-User_Defined node now handles its parameters properly.

Setup Room

Fixed case where adding the skeleton of a figure with dynamic hair from the library would cause instability.

Content room

-Increased flexibility of automatic content installation.

PoserPython

-Updated to Tkinter 8.4. (Windows) NOTE: Please contact script developer if compatibility issues with Tkinter are encountered.
-Enabled PoserPython-driven morph target injection from external Runtime libraries.
-PoserPython method scene.SetBackgroundImage() now more reliable.
-Enabled JPEG quality parameter for scene.SaveImage()
-Improved stability of PoserPython undo/redo system.
-Now using the standard content search method for finding referenced Python files, depending on the user's specified search policy preference.
-Now accepting any type of value to specify scale factor upon import.
-Improved stability by preventing reinitialization while script-based dialog is showing.
-Now accepting any type of value <= 0 to disable scaling upon import. Omitting kImOptCodePERCENTFIGSIZE will result in import at the last size specified.
-Fixed case where Collect Scene Inventory script would omit certain referenced files.
-Enabled script-based cloth dynamics calculation for scene with multiple simulators.
-Added Poser.Quit() method to enable script to terminate the application.
-Added MovieMaker.SetMovieRenderer() and MovieMaker.MovieRenderer().
-Added Scene.SetRenderDimAutoscale().
-Added Scene.Resolution() and Scene.SetResolution() methods.

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FireFly Render Engine

• Corrected case where reflected raytraced shadows would look wrong.
• Improved stability when rendering objects consisting of large polygons that intersect with camera plane.

Preview Render Engine

• Added preference for controlling hardware shading during tracking (please change PREVIEW_OGL_HWSHADING_INTRACKING 1 to PREVIEW_OGL_HWSHADING_INTRACKING 0 to prevent lag in camera adjustment on certain NVIDIA chipsets; NVIDIA OpenGL Hardware shading only).

File I/O

• Enabled saving and reading of DYN simulation cache files (Mac OS X only).
• Fixed case where JPEG export quality setting would default to -1.
• Corrected JPEG export label text to read "Quality".
• Now also accepting "::", ":"" and ": "" as valid specification of an empty texture map
  reference (please don't specify empty references this way, it is still not correct).

Animation

• Fixed case where Layer order was not preserved on saving file.

Material Room

• Enabled animated shader preview on Material palette nodes when playing back animation.

Face Room

• Fixed case where generated shape variation in 7.0.2 would look different from 7.0.1.

Misc

• Now adjusting Python distribution permissions to ensure proper launch when logged on as restricted rights user (Mac OS X only).

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Here are some helpful notes about a few improvements in the SR3 updater and how they may affect you.

 

File I/O

 

The SR3 updater incorporates an important change when working with referenced content found in Poser scene files. Poser 7.0.4 saves files with relative, platform-neutral paths for content components such as geometries and textures whenever possible. In previous versions of Poser, paths were written that may have been either relative or absolute. This could potentially create problems when opening up scene files in a cross platform environment or when working across machines with different runtimes.

 

Poser 7.0.4 now writes consistent paths. The benefits to this change include:

-        Backward compatibility with older versions of Poser on OSX

-        Better portability when moving files from Mac to Windows, or vice versa, from one machine to another if the runtime locations are not identical, and when runtimes are moved on a system (such as when a new hard drive is added).

-        Less clean-up will be required before sharing a newly created library item with other users.

 

Poser 7.0.4 now searches for referenced files such as geometries and textures next to the PZ3/PZZ that is being opened, if those referenced files cannot be located in either the current or main runtime directories. If your runtime files are messy and contain duplicate file names, the search process results may be unpredictable. Creating files with unique names with a runtime directory structure that resembles the standard Poser runtime setup will help alleviate future issues.

 

When adding an external runtime to Poser 7.04, the key word “Runtime” must be in the path for the search engine to properly locate your referenced content. In simple terms, your content’s directory structure should duplicate the standard Poser Runtime naming structure. At the top level, content should be in a directory named Runtime, which includes subdirectories that follow Poser’s naming conventions.

 

FireFly Render Engine

 

In the development of Poser 7.0.4, we measured several instances of increased FireFly rendering performance; however there are isolated cases where the improved quality of raytraced shadows, Ambient Occlusion, and Displacement/Bump mapping effects can result in slower renderings at similar quality settings. In those isolated cases we’ve improved, the final rendered results are far superior to renderings from previous versions of Poser 7.

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Also, not sure if it made it into the final release, but I just used a v4 with a clothing item, and the clothing crosstalk feature was restored!

Tiny had some hair room issues, got them to iron out those issues, and now she can release good quality furred critters for poser 7+!

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Not a good start. I've had Poser 7 registered since I bought the SE version when it first came
out, yet the site doesn't recognize the serial number. I registered the number with SmithMicro,
assuming I had to do it again with the new owner. Still no dice. I don't have the time to keep
dealing with efrontier, and now SmithMicro screw-ups. Please let me know what the problem
could be. Poser has been collecting dust because of it's instability. If this has been solved, I'd
like to get back on the horse. :)

Greywolf

sigh  Go figure, they aren't accepting my Serial No. even though I registered it when I got the program and have had absolutely no problems in the past downloading the updates.  Just my luck.

Now if only the validator at Smith-Micro was working.....

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worked fine for me... accepted my serial and I'm now running OK

I suggest copying your serial from your CP account (Mystuff) and pasting that directly... it'll stop any mistakes from happening...
but the validator is working.. that I can confirm...

Too bad it won't let me download. It won't accept my valid serial number. I had to email SM about it. So now I play the waiting game...

edit: I did copy and paste!!!

"-Now keeping focus on Graph palette while clicking & dragging beyond palette boundaries."

Yay!  This was a very serious problem.  I'm happy that they finally paid a little
bit of attention to animation!

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well....i clicked the link....dint put my serial number in cos i couldn't be bothered to go search it out ...... i just hit the download link and sr3 is downloadin as i type

edit to say : d'oh...i hit the wrong link :P

Serial number no go.  Says "must be all capital letters", but they are all capital letters.

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I cannot find my serial number listed at CP.  I bought and registered my copy of Poser 7 directly through e-frontier.  Maybe that's the problem.

Watch out for oh's and zeros, dont type O by mistake.

I must remember to remember what it was I had to remember.

My guess would be a call to smith micro or an email would resolve your issues far faster then a forum post.

When I upgraded lightewave, I had to call them 3 times to get the proper info to make my dongle work properly. (And was on hold long distance for 20 minutes each time, no less!)

When I upgraded Vue6I, I ran into the same issues, the servers were flooded, so I couldn;t even download the patch, and after I had it and tried installing it, I STILL had to call Eon and again wait forever on hold until they could sort out my serial number issues.

Odds are, and email to them, or phone call tomorrow when they are open will resolve it quickly.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

I quadruple checked what I entered.  It simply is not being accepted.  This is ridiculous.  I'll deal with it later.  Got better things to do at present.

Ditto. I'm not so enamoured of Poser at present, that I'm willing to jump through hoops to
get what I paid for. At Present, I use Poser only for rigging. Other programs in my Toolset
are superior renderers. If I can't get SR3, Poser gets to stay as my rigger only, at least until
DS gets rigging. :)

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Took my serial number no problem and I have downloaded the update maybe the problem with the serial numbers are fixed?.  But I won't install it yet until I clear some jobs out I am working on.

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No, according to what I've read here, and on the DAZ forums, some are accepted, some
aren't. Since the numbers not being accepted are registered, many from pre-orders of the
SE edition from efrontier, it might be that THAT is what is causing the problem. If so, they'd
better fix it. This is hardly the way to keep customers who were already pissed by eFrontier
screw-ups of this nature.

Greywolf

If you experience difficulties downloading Poser 7 SR3, please contact Smith Micro tech support via my.smithmicro.com/support/index.html and let us know what updater you were trying to access, and what your serial number is. We'll try to address any issues there might be as quick as possible. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Quote - No, according to what I've read here, and on the DAZ forums, some are accepted, some
aren't. Since the numbers not being accepted are registered, many from pre-orders of the
SE edition from efrontier, it might be that THAT is what is causing the problem. If so, they'd
better fix it. This is hardly the way to keep customers who were already pissed by eFrontier
screw-ups of this nature.

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Maybe I just lucked out my copy was a pre-order SE addition. Wow I actually got lucky at something.

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Good to see an official post in the thread here within minutes of an issue report! Obviously they are burning the midnight oil keeping an eye on things...

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

No thanks. SmithMicro tech support pages are like many others, a PITA to navigate through.
I'm just not interested enough to go through the trouble, though I encourage others to do so.
I haven't used Poser, except for rigging, since it came out, due to stability issues, and have
since moved on to other software. I had thought to get SR3 and try again, since Starlet's post
mentioned that the stability issues had been addressed, but no. I have jumped through
customer service hoops many times, and it is always an exercise in frustration. Thanks
for the info, but I'll pass.

Greywolf

Sounds like someone has some personal issues.. LOL!

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

No go with the updates here.  And mine's an SE version, as well. 

I mean... couldn't they have put up a copy for download at their other Rendo-like site (won't put the name of the place here, but its first letters are "C" and "P")?  I've never had any trouble getting updates using that method. 

Something's obviously FUBAR at the Smith Micro site. 

Anyone that has a problem getting their Serial Code to be accepted can also contact Customer Support at Content Paradise with their Serial Code. Support@contentparadise.com

NOTE: the SR is for English Language only currently. If you are MAC make sure you are on the MAC Page, not the Windows Page. If you are non English, you will need to wait for that release. Also, make sure you are entering it in the Serial Code Field for the Service Release, not the Upgrade Purchase.

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Not really, Gareee. It's just frustration talking. Customer service, the times I used it, provided
little sevice and major headache, with service reps who knew diddly squat. :) I'll fire off an
email to the above addy. I'm willing to give SM a chance. After a tough day, I kinda snapped. :)

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I hear ya.. it's very easy to do, and you can tell when people are posting, but also having real life issues.

FWIW, after I saw Uli's post here, I fired off an email to Poser's dev team, so they also had a head's up when they get in tomorrow that something is amiss somewhere.

Believe me, I went nuts when I did my last Lightwave upgrade, especially since my ONLYphone I had available was my cell phone, and it was on a short charger cord while I was trying to deal with being on hold for 20 minutes each time! LOL!

Course that's nothing compared with my HP "customer service" (and I use the term loosely) last year.

I HATE outsourced technical support with troubleshooting flow chart books, with no actual clue.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

We all have days like that... the good thing is when those days are over! LOL (the bad thing is when the bad day starts on Monday and it is over on Thursday!)

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Actually it;'s GREAT they did this today, because it means they won't be gone for a VERY long weekend before being able to resolve the situation.... ;)

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

True, I got a reply that my serial was missing two characters. DOH.
Unfortunately, the full number still generated the error. Odd, since they
confirmed that I was registered. Well, no hurry, they'll figure it out. It was
whether I was registered with them or not, that was worrying me. :)

Greywolf

My SN doesn't work either. Did last time i used it. It works at CP too.

I take it will be a while before we get a P7Pro SR?

Well I sent them an email about an hour ago. 

According to the nice gentleman at the other end, there is an issue with a block of Serial numbers.  They will be fixed in the morning.

BUT, he did hook me up.

Got the download & am installing now (crossing my fingers!)

I went to site and did everything as told by efStarlet when the thread was posted.  Went to SM's site which was a lot of leaps and bounds, then went back here to click on the link to SM's Poser page and did the SN of my product, only mistake I made was forgetting my own e-mail address.  On top of that no problems, d/l the SR3, installed and the only thing I found different was that there's no e-f, just SM's logo with the same P7 splash screen.

Hadn't played around it a bit, but hope it would run smoothly tomorrow.  Unlike the others, I'll keep my finger's crossed on this new update.

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Well, at least it loads faster...that's nice.

I'd rather stay in my lane than lay in my stain!

Mine isn't working either and taking it directly off the email they sent with the sn when I bought it. What a load of crap, how hard is it to put the numbers in when you register a program? Give me a break. And yes I have personal issues with this, tired of all the screwups with this company.

I didn't have any problems with the serial number last night. I opened the email they had originally sent me when I bought the P7 upgrade back in 2006 and copied the number from that. Then I went to SM and pasted it in there and it accepted it with no problem. File downloaded without a hitch but I haven't installed it yet.

Quote - I didn't have any problems with the serial number last night. I opened the email they had originally sent me when I bought the P7 upgrade back in 2006 and copied the number from that. Then I went to SM and pasted it in there and it accepted it with no problem. File downloaded without a hitch but I haven't installed it yet.

Did the same. I've installed it and have been using it for the last three hours.

Mike

Quote - > Quote - I didn't have any problems with the serial number last night. I opened the email they had originally sent me when I bought the P7 upgrade back in 2006 and copied the number from that. Then I went to SM and pasted it in there and it accepted it with no problem. File downloaded without a hitch but I haven't installed it yet.

Did the same. I've installed it and have been using it for the last three hours.

Mike

Cool, you having any issues or problems with it yet?

And when you install, make sure to click on "Create backup of preferences"! With the new logo Smith Micro it starts as if you never used it before in factory state and all external runtimes gone :(

Just use the backup copy of the libraryPrefs.xml from Poser 7 ...Date...Time... into your p 7 preferences folder and it works again.

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Und wo klickt man auf Create backup of preferences? Davon abgesehen kann ich sowieso nichts downloaden, Probleme mit der SN - wieso auch immer. Ich konnte ohne Probleme damit das PPro Upgrade kaufen, aber für einen SR download reichts nicht? seufz

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GREAT UPDATE SITH MICRO !!
now can you fix the problem with the Pre odered Poser 7 Se versions...
I tryed to put it on the CP forums
but i can wait 3 hours before thats Site is loaded ...a other great Sith Micro thing...

 

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LOL ... same here, BAR-CODE - problem with SN and CP takes forever and a  day to load.

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Bravo! 

SM responded to the email with a good download link.

Installed it, now trying it.

This is the first SR in Poser history that fixes most of the problems I've noticed;
some of which (like the OBJ import bug) have been problems since P4.

Specifically, I thank SM for these fixes and changes:

-Now keeping focus on Graph palette while clicking & dragging beyond palette boundaries.

-Improvements to texture map location for preview and rendering

-Fixed case where switching off texture filtering would cause artifact to appear at seams of high-res tiled textures.

-Fixed case in which redundant Center of Mass props were written.

-Now consistently writing relative, platform-neutral paths whenever possible.

-[Python OBJ import] Now accepting any type of value <= 0 to disable scaling upon import.

-[Python] Added Scene.Resolution() and Scene.SetResolution() methods.

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I just noticed another long-needed change that isn't listed in the readme for the SR.  The title of the PZ3 now appears on the top bar of the application, where it's more readable and more expected.

Good job!

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My serial wouldn't go thru either... I have P7 SE Boxed ordered from CP.
I emailed tech support (techsupport@smithmicro.com) as suggested and got a download link promptly.

They sent me a link to their faq about what to do if your sn doesn't work. WTF is up with these people are they running a business or not?

Please only select 'Remove existing preference files' or 'Backup existing preference files' during updater installation if you intend to do that. Yes, those options will return Poser to the factory state, including the runtime library setup.

If you want to continue with your current preferences, please choose 'Use existing preference files' instead.

This is what I got from sm.  I was very clear and said poser 7 pro. Are they really that friggin dense????????????????????

 I apologize for the confusion. There is no Update for Poser Pro. The Update is for Poser 7. If I have misunderstood the issue, please provide the URL of the Update you are trying to aquire.

Ok figured out they wanted the sn from poser 7, the OLD poser 7, not the newest one I just bought so which Poser 7 is this release for? They should have just named the newest one poser 8.

it's for Poser 7. not Poser Pro. (which is poser PRO not poser 7 or poser 7.5. anyone telling you that is just getting it wrong. it is considered a seperate product for sales and upgrades)

Quote - Please only select 'Remove existing preference files' or 'Backup existing preference files' during updater installation if you intend to do that. Yes, those options will return Poser to the factory state, including the runtime library setup.

If you want to continue with your current preferences, please choose 'Use existing preference files' instead.

Crap! I chose 'Backup existing preference files'. Any way to restore it?

I kept a copy of the original serial from their site when I first downloaded my P7. I copied and pasted to the upgrade sr3 and no problems downloading. Now for the install, if I don't do something silly...sigh.

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its naffed up occlusion master and unimesh realism kit. thgey both come up with errors and won't run

MaskimXul, what platform are you on? Mac or Windows?

Quote -
Crap! I chose 'Backup existing preference files'. Any way to restore it?

on a windows machine.

go to
c:documents and settings[user name]application data

there should be 2 Poser 7 direcories.

on that just says Poser 7, and one with some numbers after it (its a time and date stamp)

The one with the numbers is the old one, the one that is just Poser 7 is the new one.

copy your files from the old to the new.

put your Dots directory (if you have one) inside the English directory. I think this may be a change in this version and it seems to be the only thing you have to do diffrent in restoring the settings

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TygerPurr, thanks a lot for the explanation. In case you want to do this under Vista, the location is c:Users[user name]AppDataRoamingPoser 7

Yes, as stated in the readme, some prefs changed their location: "-Memory dots and custom UI preferences now stored in language-specific sub-directory to facilitate concurrent installation of multiple Poser versions."

zollster, there were problems with Tkinter 8.3 that forced us to update that component. Here's a quote from the readme:

"PoserPython

-Updated to Tkinter 8.4. (Windows) NOTE: Please contact script developer if compatibility issues with Tkinter are encountered."

It could be that Occlusion Master and Unimesh Realism Kit use this component for their user interface and are affected by the update.

well tkinter is evil!!! :)

Quote - MaskimXul, what platform are you on? Mac or Windows?

Windows, Running Vista.
I dug around and figured it out. I think.
In C:UsersUSERAppDataRoaming I found the two folders that Tyger_purr mentioned,
the newly created one, and the old one.
JIC I messed up, I copied the new one elsewhere.
I copied the info from the old to the new, seems to be running ok..

Quote - I just noticed another long-needed change that isn't listed in the
readme for the SR.  The title of the PZ3 now appears on the top
bar of the application, where it's more readable and more expected.

Good job!

Uhm I've always had the pz3 name there?

edit, Oh now I see it in your pic on the application window - well that is handy

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I suspect most Poserites don't concentrate on the PZ3, so it's not very important
for them.  When I'm doing "serious" stuff, I have to keep lots of PZ3s with names
like "Chapter-2-Lesson-5-Cochlea-Closeup-2-revised.pz3".  

Poser's preview window title chopped these off so that I couldn't tell which scene I'm
currently using.  The top bar will always show the full filename no matter how long it gets.

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Hey, they fixed the first bucket render artifact!  Maybe they aint such bad folk afterall.

By golly, I think you're right.  Can't quite prove it, because the artifact was
a slippery and intermittent thing, but I've tried some scenes that I remember
as having weird stuff in the upper left corner, and it's not there now.

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face_off's stuff is easy to fix, If you're getting an error about an ambiguous parameter name, to do with -col, -column, etc.

There's a line of code that has col=something in a call to the Tk stuff. change it to column=something and it should be fixed.

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So how is this new SR3 work for Vue users? Is the file system like Poser pro? Vue doesn't play well with poser pro from what I understand.

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The Tk problem showed up in Poser Pro first. Follow the link to see if its the same problem you were having. The linked post has the error message in it. If that's your error message, do the column=0 fix.

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Yes, Poser Pro and Poser 7 SR3 both run on Tkinter 8.4.

Quote - Yes, Poser Pro and Poser 7 SR3 both run on Tkinter 8.4.

I am afraid I am a wee bit lost what the blazes is Tkinter 8.4 and how does this relate to Vue?

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thats the error i got...i'll try it. thanks

Quote - > Quote - Yes, Poser Pro and Poser 7 SR3 both run on Tkinter 8.4.

I am afraid I am a wee bit lost what the blazes is Tkinter 8.4 and how does this relate to Vue?

It doesn't relate - your post got caught in the middle of a thread within the thread, regarding errors with face_off's stuff. Which are now fixed.

Now about Vue .... sorry I don't know nothin' about that  :)

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Thanks to a quick response, I got the update. :)
I'll hold off installing for the moment though. Just in case.

Greywolf

I got it and installed, bit flaky in the material room. Restarted computer and it seems to be running better now. So it might be wise for all to reboot before testing and judging.

I have a dual boot so I have it it installed on both xp32 and xp64. I updated the 32 os. So if there are problems I will still have the good install on my 64 os. LOL Cover my backside more these days than I used to,

I just updated and now I have a weird issue. I am not sure what to do with it. I have spaces between body parts that where not there prior. zero posing her only fixes a few but when rendered they are noticible.

 Hi sweetpegster,

In the Display menu, is Bend Body Parts unchecked? That might be the issue here. Please make sure it's checked and the display issue should go away.

Thanks,
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Ohhh thank You, thank You. that fixed it.  :)

So far the SR3 is causing my Poser 7 to act weird.  The Material room is acting retarded. It's reaction to any clicking is very retarded in time. Before it would respond within 1 to 3 seconds, now it's response is retarded to 15 seconds to 2.5 minutes.

The renders are completely unpredictable. I had a set of renders that I have benchmarked as six hours in Poser 6. The first one ran in about 55 minutes.  Hooray for that!  The second one, I cut off after 28 hours+ when the progress bar was still at about 80% complete. Boo on that! I removed all the advanced material shaders and it seems to be rendering at some speed now and might actually render in six hours.

Rendering four threads is strange to watch now. Before it would render as normal, now it splits the screen into quarters and render each quarter seperately . Strange but usually gets the job done.

That is ALL the time I've had to experiment with.  The renders DO look better, so I can't complain too much so far.

Redoing the preferences was NOT a big deal. Wasn't like rebuilding your house after a flood or something. LOLOLOLOL :lol:

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Hmmm, my P7 has always rendered with screen in quarters...  Maybe there's a setting somewhere.

Looks like they fixed one set of render artifacts, and introduced some new ones.  Oiii !

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Quote - So far the SR3 is causing my Poser 7 to act weird.  The Material room is acting retarded. It's reaction to any clicking is very retarded in time. Before it would respond within 1 to 3 seconds, now it's response is retarded to 15 seconds to 2.5 minutes.

Do you have an ATI graphics card or chipset? If yes, then please update your graphics driver. If you deleted your preferences during installation of SR3 and the problem appeared, then you might have previously had the workaround for the driver problem enabled that we shipped in SR2.1. You could still do that, but at this point it's better to just get the improved driver from ATI/AMD.

Quote - Rendering four threads is strange to watch now. Before it would render as normal, now it splits the screen into quarters and render each quarter seperately . Strange but usually gets the job done..

Rendering in four threads was always done in four quadrants, no change there. If you had 'Render in separate process' enabled previously, it might have looked like it did it all at once due to how the results are read back.

Quote - Hmmm, my P7 has always rendered with screen in quarters...  Maybe there's a setting somewhere.

You have multi-threaded rendering turned on (Edit | General Preferences... | Render tab | Render Process | Number of Threads)

So Far So Good.

Trouble on mac here. Updated to SR3 and renders are crashing where they did not before. Sometimes my undo is greyed out - especially when I really need it! Saving, loading and rendering are all very lonnnnggggg now. It seems to me P7 was like this at the beginning but SR2 fixed it - now we're back to square one.

NO ATI cards on my render machine. I don't remember if I had ''Render in separate process' checked or not. It overwrote my preferences and didn't back them up.

New problem noted. Random crashes to desktop when deleting props and figures.  Sometimes it does crash, sometimes it doesn't. I have yet to determine why the app is crashing when deleting.

My Poser 7 installation had been rock-solid without ANY glitches, or crash to the desktop problems at all.  I've read about such from other users, but never EVER had that problem before.  I am VERY dismayed to experience such now. As such, I am not a happy customer now. :glare:

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Its working great for me as for validating goes. just make sure your not putting in O instead of 0s and use the - to it should work for you guys.

Another very important fix that isn't mentioned in the readme:

Posing camera no longer locks up when you change from one figure to another!

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i dont like what i am reading. this service pack should make it better not worse.

I have the SE version of Poser 7 and my updated downloaded no problem.

Make sure you are using capitols and dashes when you put in the serial code.

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Quote - i dont like what i am reading. this service pack should make it better not worse.

Don't panic. I downloaded and installed SR3 as soon as it was announced and have been using it  heavily with no problems. I'm not sure, but I think it is even rendering faster. If you use face_off's Python scripts, there is a fix for them elsewhere in the forums.

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Hmmm. I think I'll stay away from SR3 for the time being. When I use Poser 7, I use Python
quite a bit. I don't have the time to repair every script that SR3 breaks. Heck, P7 gives me
enough trouble as it is, don't need more. I use it mainly for the Cloth Room, Hair Room and
Rigging. Poser crashes so often and so randomly, especially during renders, I had to shift
to DS just to get renders done. If this was fixed in SR3, that's one big plus, but the Python
thing is a BIG minus, to me anyway. :)

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I had to reinstall Poser after I had installed the SR3.
Suddenly Poser told me that there was an error and it needs to shut down, Textures where not seen, Figure and clothes hair and everyting was just white and only texture was seen after the render.

I have it back now as it was before and all works fine.

Has anyone else this problems after installiing SR3?
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this is the first time in the last 2 years where i read comments like this for SP.  to many people ahve problems . this has to be SP problems.

Gah! I just installed it and now I can no longer load from the collections folder. WTF??????

Real Skin Shader python script does not work properly after the update. It now says that there is errors in the python script in several lines. sigh

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Quote - Real Skin Shader python script does not work properly after the update. It now says that there is errors in the python script in several lines. sigh

sr3 updated the version of Tkinter.

to fix real skin python, open it up and do a find/replace.

find: col=
replace with: column=

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I was working on a scene in Poser 7 (stonemason's Backstreets, a couple vehicles, and bagginsbill's shaders). Poser 7 was working fine and rendering with now problems. I downloaded SR3 and installed it...no problems, it kept my preferences and runtimes. I then loaded the scene I was working on and started rendering. Seems slower with SR3 and my processor fan is now running at full speed alot. It didn't do that before I installed SR3.

Anyone have any ideas or thought on this?

Thanks

**Tyger_purr, okay, I've made that change in the script and resaved it. I'll see if this fixes the problem. Thanks for the suggested fix.
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Quote - I had to reinstall Poser after I had installed the SR3.
Suddenly Poser told me that there was an error and it needs to shut down, Textures where not seen, Figure and clothes hair and everyting was just white and only texture was seen after the render.

I have it back now as it was before and all works fine.

Has anyone else this problems after installiing SR3?
Raindroptheelf

I had this problem too. The first time it did this I was working on quite a heavy scene so I thought it was maybe too many texture calls. But it happened again on a single clothed v4. The odd thing was that poser loaded all textures -except- the clothing textures on both scenes. I rolled back to 2.1 which has been stable for me.

Can some one point me to the place at SM to find the 2.1 update?
I want to put it back on, thought I had saved it but had not.

After the SR3 horror I had to reinstall Poser 7 again and need to update.
All I see on SM is the upgrade to Poser 7 pro , the download for SR3 , then update 2.1 but just for Mac. pffffft
Thank you for your help.
Raindroptheelf

Odds are a clean reinstall, and sr3 will get you working perfectly.. and there are a LOT of fixes to things like the hair and cloth room, how poser actually works n such, that are well worth the upgrade hassle.

I've installed the P7sr3 in beta form about 30 times now, and not once had any issues at all.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Anyone else running 64 bit XP?

I have tried to install SR3 twice now, and when trying to use Python scripts I get an ugly application error that says MSVCR71.dll was unable to load.

Methinks it is part of the C++ redistributable, and it doesn't seem to be getting loaded properly.

The MSVCR71.dll isn't part of Poser's own install.  Looking at the
main directory, Poser uses MSVCR80.dll, with a date that matches
the original Poser 7.  If a script specifically calls for MSVCR71, it must
have installed the dll on its own. 

You could try to download MSVCR71 from various places on the web,
then put it in the main Poser folder. These DLLs are available free from
lots of places.   Google will show you where.....

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Hey there Ockham.

I don't ever recall Poser installing a C++ resditstributable before.  Daz Studio runs that installer as well, and has a version of that DLL (its the only place it shows up on my machine).

I'm concernced that that might not be the only thing missing.

I'm betting that tcl84.dll and tk84.dll have been compiled against MSVCR71.dll and not MSVCR80.dll, just like the P7SR2.1 and before tcl83.dll and tk83.dll are compiled against msvcrt.dll

This sort of thing can lead to instability, especially with memory allocation (which Python does a lot of).

Well, copying the file from elsewhere on the pc into the runtimepythondlls folder has solved the issue for the moment.

I had no problem downloading it from S M, but if your read the info, it only works on a fresh install of P7. I am not reinstalling all that content I have so I guess I'll wait until my next major reformat.

Quote - I had no problem downloading it from S M, but if your read the info, it only works on a fresh install of P7. I am not reinstalling all that content I have so I guess I'll wait until my next major reformat.

Poser 7 SR3 does not require re-installing from scratch. While doing so is recommended if you are experiencing difficulties with your installation that can't be resolved by discarding preferences, in most of all cases installing over an existing installation works just fine. Even if you have to re-install the application, that doesn't necessarily mean you have to re-install all 3rd party content.

Quote - Gah! I just installed it and now I can no longer load from the collections folder. WTF??????

Speaking of discarding preferences... one way of resolving this issue is to delete libraryPrefs.xml in your home directory (C:Documents and Settings[user name]Application DataPoser 7 or C:Users[user name]AppDataRoamingPoser 7 respectively).

If you have a lot of external runtime libraries linked in, or don't want to delete your library preferences for another reason, then you can open libraryPrefs.xml in a text editor and change the location of your main runtime from
    <ContentFolder folder="Runtimelibraries"  index="0" >
to
    <ContentFolder folder="C:Program Filese frontierPoser 7Runtimelibraries"  index="0" >
(assuming that's where your Poser 7 is installed and main runtime is located). This should resolve the issue without deleting libraryPrefs.xml.

@nruddock: Yup, you're right.  A quick view of the tk84.dll code shows a reference
to MSVCRT71.

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I'm on a Dell 1.8 Ghz, with 1 gig of RAM. No ATI cards or such and the Firefly render engine is so slow, it's taking days to finish renders that HAD taken 8 to 9 hours to finish. How do I uninstall the SR3 update?  I'm through with it. It's crippled my ability to produced fast renders in a timely manner.

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Quote - I'm on a Dell 1.8 Ghz, with 1 gig of RAM. No ATI cards or such and the Firefly render engine is so slow, it's taking days to finish renders that HAD taken 8 to 9 hours to finish. How do I uninstall the SR3 update?  I'm through with it. It's crippled my ability to produced fast renders in a timely manner.

Well unless things have changed with this update for poser you have to totally uninstall P7 and do a fresh install to get rid of SR3. The SR will not show in add/remove programs in the control panel.

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The only SR 2.1 I can find are the French and German. If it changes the language, it might not be worth it. If there is NO alternatives, I'll learn GERMAN instead of keeping SR3 as it is!

After rendering for over 36 HOURS it crashed to the desktop only 75% completed!  Oh man, I am so POed about this!

Any English SR2.1 floating out there?

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Joelglaine, please contact Smith Micro tech support via my.smithmicro.com/support/index.html, describe your problem and provide your scene if possible. Tech support staff might also be able to help you with an earlier service release.

I've tried several different scenes and only one out  of five even rendered. I already contacted customer service. I have never EVER needed to contact Customer Service to get a previous SR to restore function to ANY software before! In that Poser is crippled right now, I would say I am a disgruntled customer. :cursing:

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Snippets from my first try, with SP2 version on left, SP3 on right. (Pixels doubled...)

I'm seeing some marked changes in the rendering in SR3, possibly connected with ambient occlusion, maybe? The most obvious effect I've seen where a water surface intersects a skin surface which has had a shader added using this Unimesh Realism Kit.

According to Smith Micro iin an official tech support response: "One thing you could try is reducing the irradiance caching down to zero. This shouldn't lower your quality, as the SR3 updater has improved the quality of the renders in general."

LazyLeopard--that might be what you see in your renders.

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Quote - > Quote - I had no problem downloading it from S M, but if your read the info, it only works on a fresh install of P7. I am not reinstalling all that content I have so I guess I'll wait until my next major reformat.

Poser 7 SR3 does not require re-installing from scratch. While doing so is recommended if you are experiencing difficulties with your installation that can't be resolved by discarding preferences, in most of all cases installing over an existing installation works just fine. Even if you have to re-install the application, that doesn't necessarily mean you have to re-install all 3rd party content.

Last time I reinstalled P7 it overwrote my entire library (deleting all previous content) half the  geomotries and many of the textures.

Quote - According to Smith Micro iin an official tech support response: "One thing you could try is reducing the irradiance caching down to zero.

Thanks. I had tried reducing it to 50, and looking closely now I can see a very slight reduction in the over-shaded interfaces, but I'd put it back up to 90 because reducing it increased the render time dramatically. I'll give zero a go, and see whether it improves matters while still rendering in a finite length of time.

I just finished backing up my runtime, deleting poser, and re-installing it, and uploading SR2.1.

I just reloaded my scene and hope to god to render the bastard before I die from frustration! :cursing: This should have finished by LAST SUNDAY DAMMIT!

WIth SR3 it took 28Hr 40Mn and then crashed to the desktop at the 80% mark. I'm going to start it up and see what happens right now! 

Wish me luck.:rolleyes:

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I asked Tech Support at SmithMicro Site for help to get SR2.1 , have not heard anything yet though.
I made a fresh install of Poser 7 and waiting.
SR3 really messed up my Poser which was working fine.

They should take the SR3 off their Site and test it before releasing it.

They did test it.. for about 3 or 4 months, but no one can predict every single hardware and software combination out there.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Just finished my Render that SR3 had at 28Hrs40Mn.

With Sr2.1 installed it was 5Hrs 22Mins.  No crashes to the desktop, no hiccups, no monkey bussines!

If your Poser installation is crashing and shaky BEFORE you install SR3, it may fix a lot of problems.  If your Installation is already rock-solid and you're not having problems--I recommend holding off on installation until more beta-testing on it is done.

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> Quote - According to Smith Micro iin an official tech support response: "One thing you could try is reducing the irradiance caching down to zero.

It certainly has some effect, but it's not the whole story. Here's the same (double-sized) render section with the irradiance cache set to 90, 50 and 0 respectively.

Right after I installed SR3 my render times deteriorated from about 3-5 minutes to 30-40 minutes.  Naturally, I assumed it was due to SR3. 

I was wrong. 

My problem had to due with a hair prop which I discovered by trial and error.  Once I deleted the hair prop by render times went back to the normal 3-5 minutes.  I wish I knew the name of the prop, but I changed it when I loaded it and my runtimes are too much of a mess to search.  When I come across it again, I will know it.

In the process of researching I got the following input from SmithMicro
 - SR3 should facilitate faster loading and about the same render time.  That is my experience.
 - Number of runtimes loaded to the library bar should have no impact on render time.  Impact on load time is an open question.  This has been my experience also.
 - Increasing the render threads to match the number of cores was a big help.
 - Irradiance caching will have no effect on Poser 7 render time.  Apparently, it is related to Poser Pro render time.

Yeah, I'm doing a scene with a nasty hair prop as well. My usual render times with everything cranked are a few minutes.. I'm looking at 5-15 minutes now JUST because of that ONE hair figure!

Multiple overlapping transmaps really kills rendertime.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

That is one of the things I found out through experimentation.  Some hairs that had been fine to render in SR2,1 were suddenly 'radioactive' under SR3!  Since I have a LOT of hair, I almost exclusively use trans-mapped because it usually renders quicker. Under SR3 that is NOT true.  Some render the same, some cripple render times.

Same with some nodes. Reflection raytraced is slow, where the gather node seemed to cripple my machine. (Literally. It hit a patch of Gather and always crashed to the desktop!)  Ray-traced glass sometimes rendered slow, or crippled speed or caused crashes randomly.

Since I didn't want to try to re-invent the wheel with SR3, I had to roll back to SR2,1.  I'm used to what will do which foible in Poser 7 SR2,1,  But SR3 in some ways makes Poser act like a different application altogether,IMO.

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Yeah.. it's fixed and works properly now. Your solution is much like peopel hanging on to poser 4 for 10 years after it should be dead n buried.

there were some nasty bugs tiny reported to SM as far as hair rendering and developement , and SM worked REALLY HARD to fix trhings properly.

Rather then a roll back, I suggest an additional poser 7 sr3 install, so you can relearn the proper way to do hair in the fixed P7 sr3 hair room?

That way you have all your older hair you worked on, but can take advantage of the new fixes in place as well.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Ummm, but he said 'trans-mapped hair' - ala helmet hair, hair prop.  How does that work in the Hair Room again? ;P

Quote - I almost exclusively use trans-mapped because it usually renders quicker. Under SR3 that is NOT true.  Some render the same, some cripple render times.

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He said most, not all.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

But the quoted inference is obvious: trans-mapped hair DOESN'T render quicker under SR3 (than SR2.1).  I've read it about ten times, and, yes, that is the inference. :)

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So sue me?

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

you'll be hearing from my Lawyers, Bludsucker, A Chaser and Creep forthwith!

Quote -
 - Increasing the render threads to match the number of cores was a big help.

Interesting? How does one go about doing that?

Quote - you'll be hearing from my Lawyers, Bludsucker, A Chaser and Creep forthwith!

Might I recommend the firm of Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe?

LOL!

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Maybe someone said it, but you can turn the raytracing for transmapped hair "off" under its properties, and the render time reduces. I usually do that until the final render, but to me I don't see much difference either way. Maybe some improvement around the edges..

Good luck

Quote - They did test it.. for about 3 or 4 months, but no one can predict every single hardware and software combination out there.

well here people have more problems then not. which means that something is wrong with the SP3.

people are reinstaling poser because of this. something is 100% not right here.

Quote - people are reinstaling poser because of this. something is 100% not right here.

Folks seem to be in a variety of positions, and I can quite understand why going back to SR2 looks like the best solution for some of them.

1. If you plain can't get something important to work (like the "wrong version of tkinter" problem which hit PoserPro) then you've not got much choice. It's a simple case of "the old one works, the new one doesn't."
2. If you try to re-render something but the result is just so different that you can't even begin to figure out what needs to be changed to get you back where you want to be, then you probably don't have much choice either.
3. If your new renders seem to have improved in places but have also developed isolated but unaccepable new artefacts then it's a choice between figuring out how to set things straight in SR3 and going back to SR2. Here, other folk who've already figured out changes can help.
4. If your new renders work just fine and look better than they did before, then you're not likely to be coming here for help. ;)

I've had one or two scenes that fall into the fourth category, but most of mine fall into the third or second. I want to stick with SR3 if I can, but at the moment it's like trying to paint with a brush which squirts inappropriate splodges onto the canvas apparently at random...

Does Poser Pro physical version includes a new manual?

Quote - > Quote - They did test it.. for about 3 or 4 months, but no one can predict every single hardware and software combination out there.

well here people have more problems then not. which means that something is wrong with the SP3.

people are reinstaling poser because of this. something is 100% not right here.

People that have issues WILL post, because they are seking solutions.

But people without issues are just working as usual, without reason to post. Thee will always be a few people with some issues with any new program update for any program.

As I've said, theres no way any company can test for every single hardware and every single software solution, and there's never a perfect bug free update for any program from any company as a result.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Quote - People that have issues WILL post, because they are seking solutions.

...though it's hard to know where to post to stand a chance of getting a useful answer. When a thread's more than a page or two long it's increasingly difficult to find useful answers, especially when the thread also fills up with meta-conversation like this. Maybe it's time for a new thread specifically about the effects of the changes between SR2 and SR3...

Well, this thread was originally announcing it's release, and was not a torubleshooting thread at all. Thread drift is commonplace, and people with sr3 will most likely find a solution in an associated thread.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Quote - and people with sr3 will most likely find a solution in an associated thread.

...if they're lucky enough to find the right associated thread in the first place. So far this is the only thread I've found here which seems to be dealing specifically with SR2/SR3 issues in any way at all...

There aren't a whole lot of sr3 threads at all, so there aren;t a lot to choose from.. ;)

Plus Smith Micro themselves have also replied here as well.. when you actually have the guys who worked on it replying in a thread, odds are you'll find the info you need here whenever they pop in again. Good reason to stick around, eh?

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

If you have a particular issue that hasn't been discussed you have two choices.  Post your issue here and hope that the SM people see and answer it or start a new thread specifically for your issue and hope someone who has the answer in the community will have your answer.

3 choices.. also contact SM direct, which is always the smartest option on new releases.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Well, the first choice should be to contact SM directly.  Secondarily, users can inform each other of their experiences which may help others having similar issues.  Any time something doesn't work as expected (whether from the source or the user), the dialog between the company and user should help to resolve the issue or at least illuminate it. :)

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hey, download went fine, installation went fine, but:

AnAn does not work any more ( none of them)

The hip detafches from the figure and places itself about 3" back.
Also the texture goes missing.

Any sugestions? The rest of the figure is OK, and the problem is not solvable.

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hmm iam gettings render speed problems too after installing SR3.
Mainly even though ive choosen 4 threads only 2 of my procs are used (using alt-ctrl-del) and only at 15% CPU usage!!! (before i was getting a 90% CPU usage from all procs). I tried playing around with the adaption Threshold and memory limit buffer but very little difference. it takes me now almost twice as long to render O.o !!!

quote/  AnAn does not work any more ( none of them) / end quote

You scared me a bit there, added my Anan runtime when i saw your post (deleted all prefs in the upgrade) and loaded AnAnR2 (new Judy), worked fine for me.

Sorry I cant give you any solution for your problems with AnAn just wanted to say that the character works ok here even with SR3

The only problem I have is that P7 now have troubles identifying some textures as valid jpg's (textures called on when loading some hair models), when i load the same textures in P5 or P6 they work rigth away.

I do however find the application more stable now as the random crashes are almost gone.

Regards / Jonny

On the validation issue, if anyone is still having problems, I cut and pasted my serial and noticed that it had picked up a space at the end of the number. This would have led to an incorrect serial as far as the validator is concerned as it views a space as a character.

Took my serial ncey, got a nice e-mail from them thanking me for registering.

But....................
Where the H*LL is the link for the SR3 dl?

Dazed and confused, as usual....

All these wanna be web desingers that can't

P.S.

Is this somethig I REALLY want to do?
I am actually haveing very few probs with P7

Here's the link to the Smith Micro downloads page, updates are on the right....

http://my.smithmicro.com/downloads/index.html

The liver is evil - It must be punished.

Quote - > Quote - According to Smith Micro iin an official tech support response: "One thing you could try is reducing the irradiance caching down to zero.

It certainly has some effect, but it's not the whole story.

Further experimentation has resulted in some improvement. I also learned a few things:- It is entirely possible that the Ambient Occlusion wasn't actually being affected by some surfaces in Poser 7 SR2. That would be consistent with what I say on this image. When it started to work properly in SR3...

• The MaxDist and RayBias values in the Ambient_Occlusion node depend on the units you have selected. If you are using "Feet" but you type in values suggested by someone working in "Inches" then... Well, let's say the results will be a way off base. I ended up with a MaxDist of 0.02777 feet, and a RayBias of 0.013888 feet. My original MaxDist was 0.645 feet, which certainly didn't help any!
• The skin shader I'm using has a node train connected to the Alternate_Specular channel. The Ambient_Occlusion node is connected to the primary Diffuse_Value and Specular_Value channels. These may be working against one another, but I'm not quite sure how...
• The SR3 Irradiance cache probably does do a rather better job than the SR2 one, but it does still have flaws. Renders without it do look better, but take rather longer.

Poser 7 slowed to a crawl with open GL enabled after the update.  I did as suggested and updated my ATI video card driver.  Now the Poser room works fine, but I'm still having issues with the materials room being very slow unless I switch to SCreed.  Anyone else having this problem?