Just went to read a comment posted on one of my recent images and was infected with Java/ByteVerify!exploit virus. Sheesh! What is going on here?

FlyByNight

I just got a prompt asking me to install Java.

Download my free stuff here: http://www.renderosity.com/homepage.php?page=2&userid=323368

Just went in to the marketplace and looked st the 2D content page, norton throws a wobbly
VIRUS WARNING "TROJAN VIRANTIX.C"
SO YOU MAY WANT TO STAY OUT THE MARKETPLACE FOR A BIT

This just happened to me also, except I got a pop-up asking if I wanted to install (Java) but was warned of potential threat by Norton. I looked all over to try & let Renderosity know of this, but can find nowhere to notify them of such a thing.

I looked all over to try & let Renderosity know of this, but can find nowhere to notify them of such a thing.

easy method - PM an admin.

Well I got it! It showed up as an ActiveX Install to run it - and I did, thinking nothing of it and found that my system went nuts and my computer shut down almost instantly!!! When it restarted, my anti-virus could not come on, and it auto install a AntiVirus cleaner which is running in safe-mode now. My system has been thorough infected - I had better not lose any files! This is crazy! I'm watching this go on while using my husbands computer.

I do ALOT of shopping here! I use the gallery here! But I cannot afford for this to be happening. I've had this discussion once about going elsewhere for the gallery and sticking with Daz3d for content... looks like - that may have to be. Because I don't see Rendo doing anything about it!

You would think they would put up an immediate frontpage warning to all that visit here! No such warning in sight! For the customers that come through here, I find that rather negligent that no warning has been put up. I think I just found a reason to make a major freeze on my content spending!

Because I don't see Rendo doing anything about it!

if you check the Community Center you would see they are working on fixing the problem and have taken the member pages offline until they have done so. that's hardly them not doing anything is it?

sorry to hear that MKeyes maybe this will help
http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2008-050916-1055-99

There seems to be a widespread attack on forums.

A large number of forums have been hit in the past few weeks.

I will make a post in the staff forum and bring this thread to the staff attention.

"The Blood is the life!"

Yea I got that warning when looking in the marketplace. I'm sure their working on it.

I use the most recent version of Mozilla-Firefox and haven't noticed any problem with pop ups or virus/trojan warnings here.

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able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
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Yup- It tried on my comp but I have Pointstone Mamutu installed- It caught it straight up and blocked it. :)

Haha, i got a few of those java things as well. you just have to know your computer and how it lets you know about real updates. I knew that update pop up was fake the first time it came up. I just hit the lil red "x" at the top of the pop up. I also checked my computer for viruses a min ago and found nothing. So im assuming that hitting the lil red "X" really does work in not pull in the trojan virus... just a thought.

Quote - Well I got it! It showed up as an ActiveX Install to run it - and I did, thinking nothing of it and found that my system went nuts and my computer shut down almost instantly!!! When it restarted, my anti-virus could not come on, and it auto install a AntiVirus cleaner which is running in safe-mode now. My system has been thorough infected - I had better not lose any files! This is crazy! I'm watching this go on while using my husbands computer.

I do ALOT of shopping here! I use the gallery here! But I cannot afford for this to be happening. I've had this discussion once about going elsewhere for the gallery and sticking with Daz3d for content... looks like - that may have to be. Because I don't see Rendo doing anything about it!

You would think they would put up an immediate frontpage warning to all that visit here! No such warning in sight! For the customers that come through here, I find that rather negligent that no warning has been put up. I think I just found a reason to make a major freeze on my content spending!

hmm, perhaps you shouldnt blame Rendo for you accepting that virus on your computer. They are doing what they can do fix it. It takes time, and by throwing out your frustration online is not going to help at all. Viruses pop around the internet like corn on the kettle, its a common thing for this to happen. So im surprised that you are shocked at this happening.
I'm not going to lie, i do feel bad that your files could be lost at any min, ive had that happen to me as well, but putting in negative content about the site that has been supporting your art work for the last some-years is probably not the way to go. I know for one thing that WoW gets problems with it many times and it is in a day that they finally realize whats going on and post a msg about it to gamers. It just takes time. Rendo is like an art community, and by that it works from its supporters, those who make accounts and browse here would be part of it. If something is goofing up with the site it is best that you let others know and even Rendo Masters as well if you really feel that they are clueless about what is going on. That way, instead of being a panicy frustrated browser cuasing more stress you could be assisting in getting this taken care of. Can you get that?...

Hello,

Just wanted to pop in here and let you all know that our tech guys have been working pretty much round the clock since the first time this occured last week. They were able to gain some very helpful information this time very quickly.

We have made some posts in the threads from the CC forum last week and today. We will keep you all updated.

Thank you

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hmm, perhaps you shouldnt blame Rendo for you accepting that virus on your computer. They are doing what they can do fix it.

Excuse me, I say what I feel when I feel it!!!! As for the rest - my point of them doing nothing about it??? **WARN PEOPLE from page ONE!!!!

** That to me is doing something with CONSIDERATION to those that come here! Frontpage, at the top warning! And if you think I'm wrong for feeling angry and saying what I have - Lord please - let me count to ten before I get REAL nasty!!!

I spent 3 hours running a Anti-virus, scared to death while watching it as it was attached to several files and needed to be deleted, and that thankfully did find it all and clean it all up - leaving my computer intact! The stress from it alone gives me the RIGHT to VENT! They knew this was going on for over a week! People frequent this site and trusts it to take care of those trafficking here! I'm not stupid - I know it happens alot - but to be at a site that has as much traffic as this site does and not place an immediate warning in bold red at the top is being NEGLIGENT - you don't like my words and heat about the matter!? At this rate - I don't care - my point stands! You WARN! Very simply matter until the matter is resolved.

UGH!!!

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Yup- It tried on my comp but I have Pointstone Mamutu installed- It caught it straight up and blocked it. :)

By the way - thank you for this - I've found it, downloaded it, installed it. Info comments like this I can appreciate!

Quote - sorry to hear that MKeyes maybe this will help
http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2008-050916-1055-99

Thank you too!!! I've found a remedy!

Quote - There seems to be a widespread attack on forums.

A large number of forums have been hit in the past few weeks.

There is also a couple of virii going around in email ("We have hijacked your baby" is one) with a trojan in the attachment (NEVER EVER open attachments from unknown sources, please, ever, never, ever).

Unfortunately, the scum-sucker, low-life, crapheads must be getting restless of late.

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I do have to agree with MKeyes that a warning is not too much to ask for, and I'd go so far as to put such a warning on EVERY page a user might access. Having this happen with the same java trojan two times in a few days, well, I hope the site admin team is learning from this experience and will be a little more proactive about alerting users to this kind of thing in the future. While I'm pretty jaded and cynical - I would never ever ever run an installer prompted by any website's content - a lot of people trust Renderosity completely. I imagine that trust has been harmed greatly over the past week.

Would it be so hard to put a warning banner at the top of any page, in this kind of event? Not like it would have to replace the marketplace advertisements at the top of every page (nobody minds those after all), maybe a red link beneath the random market banners.

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hmm, perhaps you shouldnt blame Rendo for you accepting that virus on your computer. They are doing what they can do fix it.

Excuse me, I say what I feel when I feel it!!!! As for the rest - my point of them doing nothing about it??? **WARN PEOPLE from page ONE!!!!

** That to me is doing something with CONSIDERATION to those that come here! Frontpage, at the top warning! And if you think I'm wrong for feeling angry and saying what I have - Lord please - let me count to ten before I get REAL nasty!!!

I spent 3 hours running a Anti-virus, scared to death while watching it as it was attached to several files and needed to be deleted, and that thankfully did find it all and clean it all up - leaving my computer intact! The stress from it alone gives me the RIGHT to VENT! They knew this was going on for over a week! People frequent this site and trusts it to take care of those trafficking here! I'm not stupid - I know it happens alot - but to be at a site that has as much traffic as this site does and not place an immediate warning in bold red at the top is being NEGLIGENT - you don't like my words and heat about the matter!? At this rate - I don't care - my point stands! You WARN! Very simply matter until the matter is resolved.

UGH!!!

Allright, look.
Right now your frustrated because some virus is chopping up your computer, i get that. I also put in on my last post that i know what your going through becuase i've been through it before.
Now, i get what your saying about the quote on the front page, but again... it takes time to do that, no? Things dont just magically happen and rendo masters arent looking at the site every min of the day, correct? They also put in that they are doing something, so quoting out that they arent doing jack smack is infact incorrect.
All im saying is that instead of throwing out your frustration and blaming others for your aggrivation, simply send msgs around to people on here about it or even upload a pic or somethin, or even msg rendo masters yourself. I mean really, again... dont you think putting up negative things about the site that has been supporting your art work for some years is a little...mean?
I mean really, how is making your text bigger and red going to get the rendo masters to see it? or even just your first lil blurb of aggrivation? do you know how many blog titles are on the look up page? do you think they spend their time reading everyone's quotes?
I'm not trying to bag on you, im just giving you an idea. Msg the top dogs that run this place because your first attempt to make things work by getting frustrated.... DIDNT WORK!! so instead of going back to it... try something else... trying communicating outside the box!
And just over all... im not making you wrong, im just saying that it isnt working, okay? Making people wrong is not what im about, keeping things working... is. If you want to get something done then vent to rendo controlers... right? i mean, what is this going to do? venting on here.
Rendo goofs up once (in your book) and that's it? your going ot dump them? and spam that they cant keep control of their website...
You say that it gives you the "right" to vent. hmm.... justification from the outside. how about taking ownership of what you do? if your going to pop on here and throw out a shish ton of crap, then say "i am venting because i chose to" instead of "it's the viruses fault that im venting." the world doesnt make you do anything. you choose to do it your self, as have i chosen to come on here and write this stuff out. correct? i mean really... that virus was meant to screw up your computer... not to piss you off. it was you whom did the choosing to get pissed off. which can go for everyone else on here as well. them, (other people whom quoted here) supporting your justification that the world is trying to screw you over. nice. well... being whom i am, im taking a stand for your power and saying "get off it!" you seem like a very strong-headed person who is just caught up in the heat of the moment. that being your computer problems. but really, shall you ruin your day and life because some idiot put a virus on rendo? or shall you overcome it and find a way to fix it? your choice... ;)

Quote - I do have to agree with MKeyes that a warning is not too much to ask for, and I'd go so far as to put such a warning on EVERY page a user might access. Having this happen with the same java trojan two times in a few days, well, I hope the site admin team is learning from this experience and will be a little more proactive about alerting users to this kind of thing in the future. While I'm pretty jaded and cynical - I would never ever ever run an installer prompted by any website's content - a lot of people trust Renderosity completely. I imagine that trust has been harmed greatly over the past week.

Would it be so hard to put a warning banner at the top of any page, in this kind of event? Not like it would have to replace the marketplace advertisements at the top of every page (nobody minds those after all), maybe a red link beneath the random market banners.

Okay, got that...

so... your complaint is that the website doesnt have a little red mesege at the top of the screen on every link that says " hey! dont be here! because there's a virus!"

or at least any msg for that matter that is a warning... so... if it is not there... and the rendo controlers arent putting it there... but you want them to... like really badly... what do you think you should do? spam an angry note on one out of a thousand blogs? or msg them and say "hey perhaps you could put a msg up there ot let those just coming on know about the virus."

It is simply straight communication. If something is not working for you... an expectation not being met... then the workable thing is to let them know about it. Theyre not going ot know what your frustrated about if you dont say it to them or if you just spam it behind their backs. right?

i would bet that MKeyes got hit with the virus just as the rendo controlers found out about it. so then when she complains that they didnt do anything before hand, she's basically saying "you didnt foresee this and you didnt let me know." because truely, at that time it was non-existant to the rendo controlers when she got the virus... and if fate made it so that the only way the rendo masters would know about this virus was through MKeyes, then they would still be clueless about it because from what ive seen she hasnt done anything but cause more stress on the blog sheet. correct?

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Allright, look.

Honey listen, I get the psychology of this and why you're doing it. Good for you. Everyone has that something something that ticks their boxes to give them a high ride on the righteous commontary to defend. Good for you... nice to know I've given you purchase for a place to set your soapbox.

However, having a few websites of my own, where people frequent - a forum or two as well - it is MY RESPONSIBILITY to know what's going on at my websites! That's what you do when you have them, you check them, the reports and you listen to complaints that come in and investigate. A virus is a very serious matter - people are busy with a lot on their minds. It is very easy for someone to stumble in and not know about something that is my RESPONSIBILITY to know about and warn THEM ABOUT if I know it could cause them some type of cyber danger to their systems. Some people cannot afford to have their systems wrecked. If I find that there is something wrong - I send a newsletter out IMMEDIATELY - so they are aware. I warn what to look for - what not to do - so they are aware. That's my responsibility.

I expect no less from them here. The size of this place and the traffic does not matter - this is a business - and a serious one - they depend on people to come here and buy things! I for one love the place, but just because they do WHAT THEY ARE HERE TO DO - doesn't mean that their ass should be caressed when they drop the ball by not seeing to the safety of those who TRUST - RENDEROSITY!!! As I always have.

{ I } - should not have to tell anyone JACK! That is NOT my responsibility! But theirs!!! Take responsibility for your business and structure it to TRY and protect those you depend on to grow it and keep it thriving. And as for your comment on THEY HOST MY IMAGES!!! You cannot possibly be so naive as to believe that they don't get something out of that? The gallery is the best promo tool for the merchants there is going ... they know that!

Renderosity has just as much responsibility to their customers as any REAL LIFE store that knows there is a threat to their clientele. Period ... enough said!

So I am going to leave my comment at that.

I'm not as upset as others by this and thankfully AVG picked this up straight away.
And it would have been nice (and easy) to have had a warning posted on all the Rendo pages.

I see it like this -
Renderosity is a community and a business.
When things like this happen, inevitably the bean counters hold sway and don't want the problem too widely advertised - not so good for business when people would scatter if they thought they could get infected.
Even worse when it happens on the money making pages.
If the problem occurred on the forums, they'd probably just take them off-line till it was fixed.
But on the MarketPlace pages, .... well that's a different matter.
It's all a matter of money and priorities.

I haven't had a problem with this "virus", which by the way isn't a virus. It's a way to exploit a window's vulnerability.

I've been doing some searching on the net and found this link which tells you a simple way to get rid of it. The files sit in a cache folder, they don't invade your computer and affect other files.

http://www.ca.com/us/securityadvisor/virusinfo/virus.aspx?id=36725

So while I understand the concern, it's nothing to get your undies in a bunch over. And please note, this is not directed to anyone in particular, it's just a general comment on this issue.

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This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
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Quote - Things dont just magically happen and rendo masters arent looking at the site every min of the day, correct?

Considering the vast amount of money this site takes in, and the ENORMOUS number of credit card users, yes, Rendo site administration needs to be looking at the site every minute of every day.

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MKeyes

I'm interested in knowing what internet security you had running on your PC before it became infected, as I'm about to do a re-evaluation of mine adn like to know what works and what doesnt work so well.

camtheman, whilst I think you're being a little harsh in some of your response, many thanks for mentioning Mamutu; I'd not come across it before and am now trialling it

I have Home Version of Avast - which works very well I might add. It's always had an immediate fix or block things that have tried to get through. Unfortunately, when this happened, I'd just started doing a render that was sucking a huge portion of resources from my computer, a 23 hour, 59 minute and 59 second render - Phew! I'd switched it off temporarily while rendering - had finished it and went directly to Renderosity for something, and then was prompted to run the ActiveX which I've done many times depending on the site I've been at.

Thinking nothing of it because I was at Rendo, I made the huge mistake of letting it run. Avast came BACK ON - on it's own immediately and shut my computer down. When it restarted, an alarm was going off that what I had was a Trojan - a Win32: something of the other and would do a scan in safe mode to remove it. It shut my computer down again and started the scan in safe mode. It took it over a couple hours to completely scan my system, but it found all traces of it removing it - thankfully - safely. I think it found like 20+ traces of it, because I had to click to say what I wanted to do with it.

Of course, freaking out and scared - as it went through it. HUGE lesson learned here! Needless to say, when the computer started back up, all was as it should be. Even so, I've downloaded and installed the Mamutu as well now. It's a trial for the time being, but I will be purchasing it in 30 days when it's over just as a companion to Avast!

Next time I'm rendering a monster image, I'll shut everything else down - BUT IT. Even though I did, it still responded. I don't like Norton Antivirus because it takes over everything! And McAFee was starting to do the same. As for Avast - I have no complaints at all - only praises!

Your welcome MKeyes :)

If you watch http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/ for a few months (check daily) it should come around again and you can get a free liscense for it (Mamutu).
Also watch for another program by the same company called Total Privacy 5
It's just like Mamutu but with more bells and whistles. I've seen both cycle through a few times :)

Everyone should have an good anti-virus AND a malware program now-a-days.

Hi all,

Wanted to point you all to the thread link below so you can read over a posting made by JeniferC with some more details regarding this issue.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2748464

Thank you

Hi all This is Traveler from RDNA,

We have been testing RDNA daily to make sure that the site is clean and free of the Web attack from last week. So far all of my scans have came up clear. If you are getting some sort of notification from your Virus or Spysweeper program, please... if you can, take a screen shot or write the info down, and email to me at: morphman@nycap.rr.com Also let me know what part of the site you were on.

If you have not cleared your web browser's cache since the attack, you should do so. You very well could have one of the effected pages stuck in the saved data, which would trigger the alerts all over again, even though the site is clean.

Traveler, I hope the Site Administration, has contacted the FBI to report this criminal activity.

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I believe the attacking sites were in Russia. Not much the FBI can do I guess.

Honey listen,

Okay MKeyes, got it.

It is true that this is like an outside buisness, and with that the owners, you'd think, would be keeping an eye on things. You said your expectations were not met. Perhaps you could let them know of this. I know for sure that the people at my job are like worms, they dont come to me straight about what they are expecting and if there is a problem with how i do my job. they wait until they have a nice little laundry list of crap on me and then they come up to the supervisor and let it all on them so that they can get me fired. But the thing is, what they are expressing to me is that they think im a bad ass worker, but behind the scenes its, "This guy sucks." So is it really fair that i should be fired when i never knew i wasnt meeting full expectations until that moment?
It could show on this by simply the fact that Rendo has indeed failed to meet many people's expectations with this virus buisness. I get that. Shit, if i got that virus i would be off the friggen walls. Because again, ive been through your situation before and lost all of my writing pieces and graphic pieces and music from itunes that i payed for ...over some hundred bucks of music... and if it was to happen again becuase of this website and i was never informed about it before, i'd be writing some serious notes. But not on here, you know?
I get your venting, shoot i did that on myspace for a few years. But then went through a curriculum for living and realized how i was being and the negative space i was creating for others. I also get, again that your a powerful person. Just in holding up some-odd number of websites and keeping a strong eye over them both. That is bad ass. But perhaps the Rendo controlers arent like that, as you've said as well. What do you think you could create from this? I realize you said it wasnt your job, but it also isnt my job to help someone getting beat up when i pass by. It is just an action taken by the chooser to do something. I mean from what ive read you seem to hold true to renderosity, with the trust and all. Perhaps you could help them create a more efficient way in working this website. I know for damn sure if i was a website controler and i got a msg from a person like yourself about the frustrations you've had to go through because of the situation on the web, and then you invite me into an idea that could help better the flow of the website... in this case the msgs on the site links... id be blown out of the friggen water. but if that doesnt work and the controlers dont go for it then bring up the buisness thing you just wrote out. You could better create the safey you are looking for and many others would appreciate it and thank you for doing so. So would I infact. It's just knowing how to use your shit, you know?

Quote - Considering the vast amount of money this site takes in, and the ENORMOUS number of credit card users, yes, Rendo site administration needs to be looking at the site every minute of every day.

Then let them know that. Again, it is your feed back that counts.
And this is also like a community, if you know someone who knows something about viruses then let the Rendo controlers know about him/her so that they could get in contact and get this thing working again, for your safety with files and art pieces. Could you imagine how fast this problem could be fixed if everyone on this website was to give even the slightest amount of help? Either through contacts or even msging others. Have you heard of chain mail?
Right now it seems as though your playing like a ninja or something. You know there is a problem, but your not willing to put out the effort in letting people you know, know about whats happening. If you got hit with a virus on here, well that sucks, but how about letting other's you know , know about it so that they dont end up in the same boat? It seems as though you are wanting your butt wiped for this problem. Fine, w/e, but let them know that. be like "hey, i thought you guys would have full control over this situation, and that i wouldnt have to worry about anything going wrong." Simple as that. But instead you've chosen to pop on here and support MKeyes justification on getting pissed of and throwing it out on this chat line. There's nothing wrong with that, it just is. But if your going ot complain about it then you may want to consider jumping up to the plate and trying this on... msg Rendo controlers that you do not feel safe through this website anymore. And then perhaps they may cut you a deal you'd be glad on having. Can you get that?

I appologise if i am coming off harsh, as some have stated. I just get a little fueled up by chat lines like these. Ive said before that i play this game WoW, which has a world chat line and i run into people who toss out immature dialog all the time. Not that what you write out is immature, just that it has the same effect. And ive come to figure that being straight is the thing that makes it work best.
So if you feel offended about what it is that i write out, then let me know. KK?

Quote - Right now it seems as though your playing like a ninja or something. ... Can you get that?

What prompted this kind of response? I didn't even address anything at you directly at all. Site admin staff is obviously reading this thread, StaceyG has responded here multiple times. EASE UP. It's great to be loyal to the site, but you're taking it pretty far.

edit: some small advice for you. Don't talk to people using WOW as your standard of behavior. Imagine I'm standing right next to you, in person. Would you talk to a stranger's face like this?

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Quote - I believe the attacking sites were in Russia. Not much the FBI can do I guess.

They can do plenty... You'll be surprised how often the FBI goes to Russia and Europe to cooperate with Interpol to capture these scums... Oh yeah... If these scums are Russians, and they get caught... Well, let's just say, American justice is a luxury hotel palaces compared to the Russians.

And I do hope the scums get caught by the Russian police. There's no such thing as police brutality over there.

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Yes, I have been keeping up with this thread and I really hope that everyone just takes a deep breath and tries to treat each other with respect regardless of your thoughts on everything.
Its okay to have your opinion or thoughts but we need to be respectful of each others opinions and thoughts as well:)

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Quote - > Quote - Right now it seems as though your playing like a ninja or something. ... Can you get that?

What prompted this kind of response? I didn't even address anything at you directly at all. Site admin staff is obviously reading this thread, StaceyG has responded here multiple times. EASE UP. It's great to be loyal to the site, but you're taking it pretty far.

edit: some small advice for you. Don't talk to people using WOW as your standard of behavior. Imagine I'm standing right next to you, in person. Would you talk to a stranger's face like this?

Right,

I invite you to do something, okay? Go back... and read what it is that i wrote in the view that we're friends... okay?
Because there is some sort of mix up here. So please, go back and read what i wrote and think about where it is that i'm coming from and you may see my point of view for this situation.

Do you agree that going to the problem and confronting it is much more workable than writing angry notes on a chat line?
Do you agree that you havent done much to help solve the situation aside from getting angry at me, the virus and Rendo?
Do you agree that you may be reading what it is that im typing in a different way then im actually trying to get across?
This doesnt just hit you, it hits MKeyes as well.

And then also, just to finish this up... cuz this is getting redundant. "what promted this response?" is there something i said that offended you?
because again, like a wrote in my last msg, im not trying ot come off as mean and i did appologise if i was. so if there was something that struck a nerv... pls let me know. Im not on here to make enemies...

Um Thunderstone, given Georgia, and now the Poland Deal.

Russia isn't going to help the FBI do jack right now.

That said though, I wonder if this is the "cyber war" Russia threatened over the Poland deal.

Just so you all don't think I'm nuts.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/may/17/topstories3.russia

http://www.crime-research.org/articles/Conrad07/

http://www.circleid.com/posts/russian_cyber_attack_on_georgia/

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re: camtheman
Yes, there are a few things that offended me. I don't know you, you don't know me, and I expect most people would be a bit nonplused if you spoke to them in person the way you were addressing me. I was in fact one of the first people to report this problem, both times, I actually provided some very specific information about this specific hack and I've suggested a couple of different things to avoid problems like this in the future.

Do you agree that you haven't done much to help solve the situation aside from writing angry notes on a chat line, getting angry or whatever? You are making assumptions that are wrong, and presumptions that you're not entitled to. EASE UP.

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Quote - re: camtheman
Yes, there are a few things that offended me. I don't know you, you don't know me, and I expect most people would be a bit nonplused if you spoke to them in person the way you were addressing me. I was in fact one of the first people to report this problem, both times, I actually provided some very specific information about this specific hack and I've suggested a couple of different things to avoid problems like this in the future.

Do you agree that you haven't done much to help solve the situation aside from writing angry notes on a chat line, getting angry or whatever? You are making assumptions that are wrong, and presumptions that you're not entitled to. EASE UP.

Awesome,

i appologise for assuming you hadnt done anything about it. As for myself. I'm not so angry as you may think. Infact this virus hasnt even effected me because i dealt with it accordingly before it took effect. So for myself im not so frustrated as you may think. And yes i do agree that i havent done anything about it. But that is not my complaint. My complaint isnt that there's nothing being done about the virus, right? It's that people complain on here and they dont lift a finger to complete it. For myself, i am taking action. As i have just stated my complaint, so you know what it is and you know that i am acting on it in a non-compulsed way. Which is coming on here and suggesting a more workable way of dealing with this problem, right? I didnt come on here calling anyone names or dissing on their life or putting them down in dirrect text. All those views were simply the reactions of those i confronted.
That is cool how you took the initiative in doing something about it. I grats you for that because not many people would do anything except complain on a chat line like so. It is not wrong that people havent done this, it's just that by not confronting the issue one is simply not getting anywhere. Which is what im trying to show you. BUT, i know now that you allready know what it is that im talking about. Which is something i hadnt known until you wrote out this little text blurb. So perhaps we could work something out... it is true that i havent met you until this chat line. And i'd hate to think that this is the ending of our meeting, hatred, because this is not what ive been trying to create. Is it cool that we meet eye to eye?

Group hug, yadda yadda, obligatory cat picture.

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man wish someone would make a slee stack been looking all over for that figure lol

I got this virus too it locked up my system not allowing me to access my programs but clever me I went through the trash bin to access my system, and then I had to go online and find out how to get my desk top,start menu and control panles working again, it all started with a java update that installed itself without asking permission it called it self quick update, after 2 days of tinkering with different virus and script cleaners i was finally able to remove most of the problem, however my clock on my toll bar still says VIRUS ALERT! and I have not been able to get my programs to display in my star menu yet.

Quote - man wish someone would make a slee stack been looking all over for that figure lol

I got this virus too it locked up my system not allowing me to access my programs but clever me I went through the trash bin to access my system, and then I had to go online and find out how to get my desk top,start menu and control panles working again, it all started with a java update that installed itself without asking permission it called it self quick update, after 2 days of tinkering with different virus and script cleaners i was finally able to remove most of the problem, however my clock on my toll bar still says VIRUS ALERT! and I have not been able to get my programs to display in my star menu yet.

When i had this sort of problem, i hacked into my computer from my dad's system and pulled off copies of the files i wanted to keep then i wiped it and re-installed everything. Infact! at that time i only had the admin accoutn on my computer. So when i did that it was literally on my dad's other computer. But now that i dealth with that, i made a second account, a back up account that actually doesnt get infected unless you access the shared folders. So by that i command promted the file ziping of the pieces i wanted ot keep and them emailed ot myself and did the wipe. I had it happen three times. It was the third time when i found out that interent still works on the second account. So i popped up on there and then uploaded programs that held of the virus until i could find away to clear everything up. So yeah. just got ot know your system and how it works with other accounts and computers.

don't use internet explorer.

.. or if you must use IE, disable ActiveX

Personally, I prefer those browsers that comply with the Internet standards. in other words most alternatives to Internet Explorer - Firefox, Opera to name but 2.

And to reiterate, the 'virus' that started this thread is easy to remove as described above,a nd does not require draconian measures.

Have to say something about the comment that rendo supports artists with the gallery, they wouldn't be here if we didn't support the market place. So yes, they should have warned us. And instead of warning us they put on a big sale so more folks come in. That's just wrong in my eyes.

Yes, the virus that started this thread was somewhat easy to remove, and which I did manually, but it shouldn't have happened at all. I did not accept the download when it popped up but still that virus installed itself, my virus scan alerted me immediately but did not remove it so I had to spend an hour getting information on it and then removing it. And I got it when I visited my gallery not from the marketplace.

And it seems from all of the comments that not just one virus was affecting so many, it was several types, and not all easily removed or less damaging.

Marque is right as were others. We should have been warned. Period.

FlyByNight

We should hang them high!
Those evil bastards! Not letting us know anything! Your bloody well right FlyByNight!
God DAMN IT! >< why would they do such a goofed up thing? friggen! all these damned viruses! and all these sales! bloody hell! the sales! why would they EVER think to give us a sale!? i want to pay FULL PRICE those sneaky bastards! i mean really? are they TRYING to rip us off!? what the heck is goin on here!? i am totally going with to move my gallery to photobucket! to hell with this fancy shmancy crap!
Oh by the way, you can get clothes half off at Kohls... just a side comment...
BUT back to the viruses! ... no really, you should look into it... 50% off on everything including everything in ... VIRUSES! thats right... thats what i was talkin about.... viruses... and their evil ways... they must be trying to sell our souls to SATAN! those .... fiends? is that the spelling? i dunno know anymore there's no spell check here.... ah well... I expect a little red msg FlyBYNight! a little red MSG! on the TOP of this ... EVERY screen! EVERY SCREEN! not one or two BUT EVERY screen! i dont want to see a SINGLE sale going on here, NOT ONE! I will shake my fat finger at their faces and shame shame them for what they have done to ME! they are out to get me i tell you! putting viruses up on their website! WHY WHY WHY? why me!?
We should have a riot! that's it! a RIOT! lets get this party STARTED!!! RIOT RIOT RIOT!!
NO MORE VIRUSES AND SALES! NO MORE NO MORE!!
GET THE PICTURE BITCHES! I DONT WANT SALES!! .... and viruses... too...viruses too.... i dont want viruses on my computer... well...i allready have them for looking at porn anyways... ah well... w/e... give me the the bloody viruses. huff and puff jeez... all im tryin tah do is spam... =*(

I got it! there's only one thing we can do!

Get the

GHOSTBUSTERS!

They'll know what to do! Where are you buster ! wht ever shall we do about this problem we are facing!? shall I? YES! that's it! bitch about it some moooooooore! VIRUSES! are bAD for the soap... i mean soup... i mean soul... that's it soul... like the chicken soup for the soul... haha..yeah....
BUT ANYWAYS! we have a serious situation! There is not a single msg in my inbox about a red letter virus... i mean virus msg... on the red letter... in the ... in red letters... on the top of the screen... pg... on the top of the page... that's it... no letters for the msg on the virus for the PAGE! HA! ... well .... you get what i mean.
The flagen with the dragon has the pellet with the poison! the vessel with the pestle ... is the brew that is TRUE!
which means! i need to.... go for the flagon? or give them the dragon? or do i take the one with the pellet vessel.... i mean the vessel pestle... pellet with the pestle... the pessel... the pestle with the flagon... the dragon..... i mean the plessel... the dragon... i mean.... well the virus of course... the virus with the plessel... the plagon!... the dragon!! yes the virus wit hthe dragon!
all im sayin is that if you call up the ghost busters im sure they can help you wit hthis crazy stuff.

GENERAL CHAT

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So there is a virus on this website?
spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam

I LOVE DAS BOOBIES!!!!!

dont be dissin ME bitch! it's ALL THAT!!! what a what a whata VIDEO!! who let the dogs out!? who who who !!
see, a simple red letter text totally got you to view what it is that i am sayin.... yah know MEAN MAN!? haha! yeah
we all got WASTED! WAISTED! waist? haha ...ed

there's but one thing i must ask....

WHY CANT WE BE FRIENDS!!?? why cant we be friiiiiennnds? thnk u! thnk you vry muuuch! haha. the friends song by real big fish... good band.

ur sayin to urself... "whats this guy on? drugs? well shucks i need to get me some dat shit man! yah know meaaan?" haha
of course... as they say ... even though im paranoid...doesnt mean nobody is followin me! HAHA
get in tune with space aliens! and when they plan to invade!
some say on here that it is Russia who is sending us viruses... i totally agree... THEY spent their time MAKING this evil virus to SPAM us with crap... i think we should shoot them up. like the real americans that we are! YEEEEE HA! spits we'll dung heep them crazy pancake eaten brunchees from dem silly yella belly bumpkins. ah-hee-hee-hee.
or it could be the terrorists... >.> hmm.... well i guess it IS good to be paranoid, now we dont have to make up fake fears... cuz we know the truth. its a government coverup! Bush found out about us artists on this website and sent news over to give us a sale... then when we go in... he can find out where we sleep! ... who we hang with! how many nose hairs we have! he's out to get us all!!! snach and RUN!!
get the hell outa here! they could be on their way rIGHT NOW! and we're sittin here like lil ducks pickin away at our asses! why arent we doing anything? baracade the door! get the meat loaf! we'll be surrounded for DAYS! ... they'll trap us like animals! O.O and then we'll die of HUNGER! @.@ unless we run out into the gun fire! ... all because we took that sale from the render page! WHY!? why must i been so clueless!? as to think that there is such a thing as a good deed! never again! my heart is BROKEN! =( i will NVR pay for a half price 3d rendering clothing line...again .. throws nose up in the air hmf!

well, perhaps i can get a couple more things...

I'm just trying to *express* myself...

Have you ever considered decaf?

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Now that picture of the baby in a halloween costume is just wrong.... Simply plain WRONG

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camtheman: You sound like the people I see in the game chats that just go on and on and on about one thing. Usually telling folks in caps that they should just quit the game if they don't like it. We all have the right to our opinions, even you, but I agree about the decaf. You don't make your case, you make everyone else's. Rendo is wrong, flat out, not to warn us, and you can spew out all the crap you want about how we should be protecting ourselves, but we all have the same right to post in this forum as you do. You almost act like a troll so this is the last snack you get from me. Have a nice life. 8^)

Quote - Rendo is wrong, flat out, not to warn us

It's not as simple as that.

On the one hand common courtesy, and effective customer service, would suggest that they should post some kind of warning.

On the other hand, I have never come across a site that has done that. The attitude on the internet seems to be that users should protect themselves properly. My question would be whether anyone with appropriate secuity in place (which variesdepending upon the browser you use) has experienced any problems.

I have IE with all Active X components disabled and Firefox with NoScript and AdBlock plus; plus AVG running all of the time. I have never yet experienced any virus/trojan horse problems in Rosity.

As I recall, one of the early posters who was a victim to the trojan had turned off her AV software to dedicate more resources to a CPU intensive render. That should be a salutary lesson to us all!

Spam! is the art of nature.... weather it be for free.... by sales... or by virus!... we can always expect to find spam in every prospect within buisness and bullshit. For as they say... if you can not dazzel them with dextarity... baffle them with bullshit. Which is what Rendo people want us to think... they are bullshiting us when they say there is a virus... it's really a sneaky way to try and get us hooked back up to the website... so that we think it is all real... when really... their alien technology is reading our minds!!! O.O OH SHIT! i feel my thoughts draining from my braaaiiiinnn!! oh GOD! in heaven'o mighty!! saave ME!! theyre on their way right now! to anal probe us! they aint gonna get that piece of me! never! ill glue my ass shut! no one is gettin in there damn it! no one! i dont care how many 90% off deals they give us! i will never fall for it!!...
reads rendo pop up... mumbles to self about something dealing with 95% off on poser files... i suppose it is from the pop up that just came up ... @.@ there's a 95% off deal... on socks... this is my chance.... I GOT TO GET IT!!

QUIT THE GAME

IF YOU NO LIKEY!!!

Quote - Now that picture of the baby in a halloween costume is just wrong.... Simply plain WRONG

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haha wrong? but funnier than hell! haha

Okay, you're talking "World of Warcraft" game talk to people again. Really, I'd appreciate it if you'd knock this off and if you have an uncontrollable urge to talk to people like this, Go Do It In World of Warcraft. Most people with a little ordinary smarts, when they try their comedy routine and they see the audience is not laughing, that's enough to make them realize they should change their behavior. You have a little ordinary smarts don't you? Thank you.

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wow, you slap me in the face and then you thank me? is this a love routine? are you playing an elementary game with me? slap me cuz you like me? i mean... if that's how you roll baby... im all here for you! and wow talk? the way im talkin now is WAY differ then how i was talkin before. but if you find some simularities, then that's all you. asides, didnt we clean up allready? we friends now right? why are you buggin down on me? sounds like im not the far fetched ass whole anymore

To get back to the subject... I hit the site while running Opera, and it blocked whatever it was with a permissions request. Since then, Firefox with NoScript and AdBlocker running. A litte app called Link Scanner is handy when surfing new sites. The free version will warn you of possible threats, the pay version will block an infected site entirely. http://linkscanner.explabs.com/linkscanner/

In all honesty, I've never seen a major site warn of any compromise or infection. Whether it's right or wrong, it's just not normal operating procedure. You might see a message after the fact explaining pages missing or down time, but not during the problem. The techs are too busy eradicating the problem, and they don't want to provide any information or feedback to the guilty party (or possible copycats).

It does feel like your home has been broken into, though, doesn't it?

As for the 'other topic' here... good grief. :blink:

Right, i'm going to let you guys stew in your own pitiful bullshit.

"In the end they should have put up a warning sign..." wow.... this is what the argueing is about...
a fuckin warning sign...
your about to jump over the desk and shank someone over a fuckin warning sign... how rediculous is that?
"no not just because of a warning sign its also the virus!"
a virus? what does the virus do?
"well... it goofed up my computer..."
wow... it goofed with your computer... sounds like a unique mean virus to me...

so all in all everyone on here is bitching... like crazy... because they fell for some sneaky sale link... right? you feel like fools for falling for something and now your going to get payback?

Some people say on here that i wouldnt normally speak like this ot people and that i should change my act... well i wouldnt normally run into people who do nothing but throw their self rightious complaints about a sale screen... and a virus... and something about a red sign at the top of the screen... people are DIEING in Iraq and all you can complain about is a red sign... wtf is up with that? people are STARVING all over the wrodl and you complain about a fuckin sale on a website... people get robbed all the time in RL and you complain about a virus... which you still have not explained what it does yet... aside from making your screen go all goofy. Wow... what else am i missing?
government coverups and russia trying to get at us.... what's happened yet to you all? has your bank accounts emptied? .... has your computer shut off? ... are people ripping off your images? even though people probably are allready without the virus? what? please explain becuase i am lost as to wtf you guys are bitchin about... i feel like your Dad and your the lil kids yappin at me that im not doin somethin or not understandin something... WTF is it!? explain!!!

I bet most you people will make another chat link about how mean i am and start this story all over again...

"this realmckay guy virus... all over the place... in our chat lines... our galleries... our dreams... we should spam his email with hate msgs! i want to see a red lil msg at the top of the screens! Rendo should have put a warning sign up about this guy! now i got tricked into coming on here and being a lil kid! now i have to deal with him!"

link me the chat line when you make it guys... id love to see it!

Oh, brother, what a waste of time. I'm done with this thread.

But thanks to those of you who offered information and help.

FlyByNight

...and the Winner of today's Warning and Banning is.....

Shoot, I'vew had no problems with this site and I've been visiting the market place alot and I use e.i..

I do wonder why ppl have to spend pages and pages to complain about one mistake or bad choice that renderosity made. Because that's what it was. They did not put the virus on this site they were hacked which means some one did this illeagally, without rendos permission. Yes, I know many people got infected and I know what a pain it is to clean a computer and rebuild it. (I have experiance) And yes, it would have been nice if there was a warning. But they didn't and all the gripping in the world isn't going to change that. Are you that perfect that you can expect others to be? You've said your complaints now please drop it. And please don't bother yelling at me since I dared to disagree with you. I doubt I will bother checking the thread anymore.

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