That definitely looks like an interesting product. If I wasn't so busy with Antonia, I'd love to take it for a spin.

*Is everything dynamic? I'm just about getting to grips with the cloth room. What would the best settings for the simulations be?

You will like this clever and free tool already mentioned here:
http://www.philc.net/ClothRoomPresets.htm

*You use it this way:

Set up your cloth simulation as usual and remeber the name of the simulation (in most cases "Sim_1").
Go to the material room and find the cloth room presets
Decide for a cloth behavior, click it and type in the name of your simulation ("Sim_1" for the first one).
Go back to the cloth room and run your simulation.*

And if you really wand to understand what the dials do and alter the one or other thing I highly recommend this site:
http://my.smithmicro.com/tutorials/2313.html*

*By the way: Is there anyone else who recieves no ebots at all from any thread here? First I thought that all people here lay in bed with the flu but when I had a look... *

Why, oh why is the Inet being silly tonight?
First it cut off my full comments a bit ago now it shut down when I tried again...sigh.

I still think Antonia looks much better than V4.
But having ability to make V4 and M4 shorter, taller, have shorter or longer limbs is a nice thing.

And I hope we will have similar morphs for our Antonia. :biggrin:

ah i'm under attack ,somebody sell me some armor , lol.

wounder what ever happened to Apollo Maximus

Anton updated him and make him free
http://www.antonkisieldesigns.com/~akfiles/htmlpages/ApolloMaximusFree3dhumanfigure.htm

and looky there at the bottom of the page, whats that?  Oh.. freebies for him by me, a Daz PA just like Lyrra... 

Hi RorrKonn, I dont think anyone means to attack you. People from all over Daz, Rendo, others have been giving their time to work on Antonia. This is a good thing, brings people together, the more people get together the better the results. Daz vs Poser gets heated and divisive very quickly (believe me I know, I have made that mistake myself a time or two)

cheers,
Mike.

looking gooooood!
Bot refuses to call me when updates come in so just telling it I am still interested by way of typing something into the thread. Sorry for the "No Contribution Post".  ;)

Yes, there have so far been no flame wars in the Antonia thread. That is part of what makes this project so nice. And it would be awful if one started. No flame wars in the Antonia thread. Everyone here, wherever they are from have done a fantastic job.

lol decade + of being in cgi i've had my share of amusing chats :)

i respect every ones opions

don't take the chats seriously

CGTalk does thou ,the bumbs

2000 max vs maya vs xsi 2010 there all autodesk now

I use anything as long as it gets me there

I always raged the bigger apps telling theam the qween of 3D

was modeled in lightwave

V3 lightwave

V4 Modo

lightwave split in to lightwave & Modo

i like daz chated with theam back when we used lightwave

i respct daz there good with bussness

think thay kicked but with D/S took it a long way in a short time

can't find Anton Kisiel's ApolloMaximus  at DAZ.com

would not exspect to see Antonia's stuff at daz.com

DAZ controals what is and is not on there sight

i've said this many times

Vicky is a master peace and i get her rigs are the way thay are so she can morph in to any thing,

still think daz should have Phantom3D rig her thou.

i personaly hate posers 1902 rigs

never messed with daz rigs

might help if thay threw zbrush transpose in

i spend most my time with C4D,Zbrush,Photoshop.

i don't use poser or d/s much

but i know there is a lot of talented artist here renders,modelers,ect ect i'm a fan.

Quote - Yes, there have so far been no flame wars in the Antonia thread. That is part of what makes this project so nice. And it would be awful if one started. No flame wars in the Antonia thread. Everyone here, wherever they are from have done a fantastic job.

Hey, I wouldn't mind seeing V4 and Antonia battle it out a la Buffy and Faith (or Echo and Whiskey, for those younger folks).

Quote - *Is everything dynamic? I'm just about getting to grips with the cloth room. What would the best settings for the simulations be?

You will like this clever and free tool already mentioned here:
http://www.philc.net/ClothRoomPresets.htm

*You use it this way:

Set up your cloth simulation as usual and remeber the name of the simulation (in most cases "Sim_1").
Go to the material room and find the cloth room presets
Decide for a cloth behavior, click it and type in the name of your simulation ("Sim_1" for the first one).
Go back to the cloth room and run your simulation.*

And if you really wand to understand what the dials do and alter the one or other thing I highly recommend this site:
http://my.smithmicro.com/tutorials/2313.html*

*By the way: Is there anyone else who recieves no ebots at all from any thread here? First I thought that all people here lay in bed with the flu but when I had a look... *

Thanks SF,

I got that package from Phil when it was first recommended. I worked from a tutorial in 3DWorld magazine when I first used the Cloth Room so I have a reasonable handle on what does what.

My ebots are fine and I get a notification every time, the same can't be said of Daz! How are the textures coming along? I'd prefer them to be incorporated into the face textures rather than overlays.

CHEERS!

Apollo can only be found at the link Fisty provided. There are some characters for him here though.
Still, this is an Antonia thread and should be reserved for future developments of which I'm sure there'll be plenty.

CHEERS!

Quote - > Quote - Yes, there have so far been no flame wars in the Antonia thread. That is part of what makes this project so nice. And it would be awful if one started. No flame wars in the Antonia thread. Everyone here, wherever they are from have done a fantastic job.

Hey, I wouldn't mind seeing V4 and Antonia battle it out a la Buffy and Faith (or Echo and Whiskey, for those younger folks).

Heheh, I'm sure the appropriate poses could be made!

CHEERS!

Quote - wounder what ever happened to Apollo Maximus

The real question is, what happened to Anton?

The problem with a free figure with a no redistribution clause is that if his site goes down, no more Apollo... :sad:

Since Antonia is under a CC license, that is not a problem for us here.

True and true!

CHEERS!

I tested it in DAZ Studio 3.0.1.144 because I don't have Poser 7 or above.   There are set of deformers (magnets in Poser) come with the package to solve some poke through issues.

Thanks for those, I'll definitely put them through their paces.

CHEERS!

What a nice set, very versatile and exactly what is needed to create less nude texture previews

Quote - What a nice set, very versatile and exactly what is needed to create less nude texture previews

HMMMMMMMMMMMM... Why exactly do we need less nude texture previews??? ;)

Joking aside a very nice set!  (back to lurking)

Sarge

Well... I wanted to have Antonia on the first site of my/our homepage and had a hard time deciding what she should wear. But hubby was of the same opinion as you are: "We are in Germany, we are allowed to..." and sat a completely naked Antonia directly to the front page. I can tell you that I never simulated and rendered an image with a dynamic dress that fast . Because yes, we are allowed - but I do not like the idea that a child wants to have a free 3d-figure and Mom comes in and sees an entrance site with a nekkid girl. But to comfort you: Inside she's undressed so that people see what they get.

could 2D paint cloths on Antonia[

http://lorlandchen.cgsociety.org/gallery/304161/](http://lorlandchen.cgsociety.org/gallery/304161/)

I sort of see Amy's clothes as Basicwear for Antonia.

You could paint clothes on her, yes, but, not everyone is blessed with those kinds of skills. With 3D those that have the skills can help those that don't.

CHEERS!

I owe you an apology. I made the facetious comment "You sure you didn't read the instructions standing on your head?".

The fact was that my "ROT x2.pp2" prop was effectively broken, because I had forgotten to set a realistic trackingScale on the Y spin dial. I should have fixed the prop, instead of making snide comments, and expecting you to guess that you had to type in the rotation angle.

All I can say in my defence is that too many late nights, and too much cheap cider, had taken their toll. I hope that you can forgive my lapse.

Attached above is a fixed version of "ROT x2.pp2", with the more realistic trackingScale of 1.0.

Don't worry about it, I gave up drinking in 2003 and still make mistakes!

CHEERS!

That's why Victoria 4 comes with her bra and panties texture as default.

In fact, the Victoria 4's bra and panties texture also help me to tell Antonia bends much better than Victoria.  How I did that?  I drew a very simple bra and panties on top of Antonia's texture by using the painting tools in Blender, then made some poses and compared them.  I noticed that the "panties" changed in more realistic way on Antonia than its counterpart on Victoria 4.

History about the Beach Volleyball set for Antonia:
The Beach Volleyball set is based on the same set I made for Aiko 3 few years ago.  Of course, the mesh is not the same due to improvement.  The Aiko 3 set contains no ERC/JCM because I didn't know how to do it at that time.  The set works well of Aiko 3 even without ERC/JCM.  A year later, I tried to do the same for Victoria 4, it failed due to my lack of knowledge and the complexity of Victoria 4.  Then, I stopped making conforming clothing due to discouragement until I read this thread.   Thank you for helping me to learn ERC/JCM.

Are the shoulder straps adjustable? I couldn't help noticing in your pics that they don''t quite sit snugly on her shouders. It's only a small thing and may not be noticeable in other poses.

CHEERS!

I've been wanting to model something conforming for her but still scared of the jcm's... LOL

Quote - Are the shoulder straps adjustable? I couldn't help noticing in your pics that they don''t quite sit snugly on her shouders. It's only a small thing and may not be noticeable in other poses.

CHEERS!

I think what you are seeing is a bit of an optical illusion. I think those gaps are really the ties on the back of the top, and not the actual straps going over her shoulders.

I concur with Fisty. 

It has been awhile since I have made anything for Poser, seems like this is a good a place to reboot as any.

amy_aimei,

The Beach Volleyball set for Antonia looks great. 

Quote - > Quote - Are the shoulder straps adjustable? I couldn't help noticing in your pics that they don''t quite sit snugly on her shouders. It's only a small thing and may not be noticeable in other poses.

CHEERS!

I think what you are seeing is a bit of an optical illusion. I think those gaps are really the ties on the back of the top, and not the actual straps going over her shoulders.

I concur with Fisty. 

It has been awhile since I have made anything for Poser, seems like this is a good a place to reboot as any.

Oh, ok, I'll see what's there when I load it for myself.

CHEERS!

appearently my character morph image in my gallery was considered in violation of site rules... it's been removed... had not meant to offend

Quote - appearently my character morph image in my gallery was considered in violation of site rules... it's been removed... had not meant to offend

These days if they have as much as a slightly upturned nose, you better render them with their driver's licenses in their hands.

Can't say I blame the site management or the mods, though. In the current climate, they have to be careful.

I think it was probably more the body morph..  but there are plenty of full grown women with boyish figures like that..  eh..  I saw it, it's a nice morph.. maybe can rerender her in the the pretty red bikini?

Hmm, maybe I was thinking of a different render.

was a nude woman laying on her stomach with her knees bent..  unless I'm confusing it with another.

That's the one I saw.

Yep. I should have said something, because it occurred to me when I saw it that it may be looked at as an underager render.

Quote - was a nude woman laying on her stomach with her knees bent..  unless I'm confusing it with another.

Yup, that's the one I remember as well. Her body shape wasn't so obvious, though, if I recall correctly.

in real life the human eye is about 1 inch in diamater.
human head 5 eyes wide
baby 5 eyes tall
teen 6 eyes tall
adult 7 eyes tall
artist tend to  make eyes a bit bigger thou.
anime makes eyes real big
art is a ilusion

anyways if you make V4 eye 1 in in diamater
she stands about 4 feet 2 inches tall.
or ya can say shes 6 foot 2 inches and her eyes are 1.35 inchess in diamater
V4 real long legs is what makes her look tall.
her extra large eyes makes her cuter n younger in apearance.
her longer face makes her look older
it's all a ilusion

99% of artist makes the charaters legs longer.
eyes a bit larger.
ears,nose a bit smaller.
the illusion of art.

anyways Antonia short legs will give the illusion that she is very yong.
cause every one is use to seeing the 99% of artist charaters with real long legs.

yeah but that's my point..  render a woman with less than a C cup and people call foul..    but don't wanna turn the thread into a bitchfest so I'll stop there.  =)

that's my problem with it... i actually based the morph on several people i know including a girl i've known since she was still a kid... even now at 20 she complains that her size 1 jeans are falling off... i wanted to do a figure other than the 5'10, 25 something amazonian type that everyone does... my g/f is only 5'4 and 120... and she still gets carded when she goes drinking at 30years of age because she doesn't look as old as she is..

sazzy kool morphs

TheShell

some people thoght my art was killer

some didn't get it or even care about it

others would acuse me of being satanic

it's your art and you know what it means to you

but the people viewing it will interpt it the way thay see it

By popular demand (i.e. SaintFox asking), my tiny little "Asian" morph set is back: MorphsAsian.zip.

Let me know if there's any problems with this or Joelglaine's expression morphs that I uploaded last week (MorphsJGL.zip). If everything looks okay, I'll add those to the download list on Antonia's front page.

Quote - > Quote - appearently my character morph image in my gallery was considered in violation of site rules... it's been removed... had not meant to offend

These days if they have as much as a slightly upturned nose, you better render them with their driver's licenses in their hands.

Can't say I blame the site management or the mods, though. In the current climate, they have to be careful.

Not sure if it was the nose in this case LOL

Back up to page 206 and take a look at amy_aimei's render. The face is clearly that of a woman closing in on her 30s, or a little beyond (No offense Antonia :p) , but her body looks like a twelve year olds. In that particular render, the fit of the bikini really does take the years off, but that is only because Antonia's body adds to that illusion. 

I think the mods want that clear distinction, and as you have said, I can't blame them.

On a side note, and to say thanks for the work on Antonia's JCMs, go take a gander at product number ps_mo554b (V4 animate Belly Dancing) on Daz's site and watch the video, which is the second preview image. As you watch it, take a look at her armpits as she lifts her arms... I swear if she flapped those things a little harder she could fly.

I'm not a V4 hater, but I certainly wouldn't hire her as a Belly Dancer until she has a doctor take a look at those wings that spawn when she lifts her arms. 

I could make a t shirt for her.

PC gone mad!!

Sazzy: Looks good!

ODF: More to play with, nice!

Edgeverse: The more the merrier!

CHEERS!

she renders great in PP2010.

www.janimatrix.com/poser/BJAPSmootLlipsINJ.zip

This opens a big box of existing wardrobe!

Best regards,
  Michael
 

 Antonia looks great- any reason she wont show up when I put the downloaded files into my Poser2010 runtime, ie Antonia Geometry- in Geometry- Cr2 in Libraries/Character...?

 The files are there- I restarted Pro2010- and nothing shows in the libraries,

I should try with Poser 6 or the 2008 Pro and see what happens.....