Forum: Bryce


Subject: WIP 3 more detailed buildings

dhama opened this issue on Oct 30, 2008 · 51 posts


dhama posted Thu, 30 October 2008 at 7:04 PM

Just started work on a new building. It's a building that exists in Stockholm, one of the city's museums *'Stockholm Stadsmuseam' *More intricate work to come for the windows, but the building front as it is, is just two terrains. More coming soon.

bobbystahr posted Thu, 30 October 2008 at 7:23 PM

If only there was a way to eliminate the 'stair sepping' on the arch interiors...looking good to start man. I guess the camera just doesn't fill the gap eh?...too long Brycing...LOL.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


AgentSmith posted Thu, 30 October 2008 at 9:52 PM

You can kill stair-stepping in experimenting with subtle blurring of those lines. Just enough to get rid of the "jaggies" but not too much as to curve the edge away. Working in 16-bit and higher resolutions will also help finer control over the amount of blur.

AS

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UVDan posted Fri, 31 October 2008 at 3:57 AM Forum Moderator

Is this painted in photoshop and then turned into a lattice?

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dhama posted Fri, 31 October 2008 at 4:54 AM

I'm aware of the stepping problem, and will take steps to alleviate it.....

AS: Actually I had just finished to prototype for this late last night, but yes you are correct , subtle blurring and 16bit. 😄

UVDan: I used a photograph of the front of a building. Then I make a layer. On this layer I start to select areas (like the stone face or trims) and colour them at differing levels of grey, depending on how much they protrude from the front of the building. In other words, the lighter the grey the more that part of the building juts out, and finally use black for the windows etc. Hope that describes the process.


UVDan posted Fri, 31 October 2008 at 5:16 AM Forum Moderator

Thanks.  I never thought about working on top of a photo.

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dhama posted Fri, 31 October 2008 at 5:39 AM

The curves being a lot smoother now.... funny thing though, I just got a 'generic error' when I tried 16 bit, so had to use 8 bit. The 'box' blur worked a treat on this type of stepping. Anyway I think it looks acceptable now. I've added a MAT, but won't be the final one.

dhama posted Fri, 31 October 2008 at 6:22 AM

WIP 3

Now added drain pipes and guttering.

The windows would have been done by now, but the glazers couldn't come till a week next tuesday.


dhama posted Fri, 31 October 2008 at 7:10 AM

WIP 4

Added the balcony.


dhama posted Fri, 31 October 2008 at 7:10 AM

And the mesh for the balcony.....

TheBryster posted Fri, 31 October 2008 at 9:40 AM Forum Moderator

Of course if you buggers knew how to boolean.......;-)

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dhama posted Fri, 31 October 2008 at 9:51 AM

Beg your pardon?


TheBryster posted Fri, 31 October 2008 at 12:08 PM Forum Moderator

OK. Seems to me like you made the building out of TE. So, you could smooth out the arches using neg cylinders....in a boolean operation.

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tom271 posted Fri, 31 October 2008 at 12:12 PM

I like the balconies.. nice detail...  



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Stoner posted Sat, 01 November 2008 at 12:57 AM

I see that building a lot by passing it regulary. Exciting to see how you "building" it. Looking good so far.

Good spelling is overaytead


dhama posted Sat, 01 November 2008 at 10:10 AM

You live near there? Maybe we should share a coffee one day and discuss the finer points of Bryce.


TheBryster posted Sat, 01 November 2008 at 11:21 AM Forum Moderator

Oh cool! I'll pop over and we can discuss booleans! :lol:

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bobbystahr posted Sat, 01 November 2008 at 12:23 PM

Quote - Oh cool! I'll pop over and we can discuss booleans! :lol:

LOL...oh Bryster...yer such  a missionary/teacher. I thought Cardinals passed those duties to underlings, heh heh heh.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


dhama posted Sat, 01 November 2008 at 12:32 PM

Well you're welcome to join us mate.


TheBryster posted Sat, 01 November 2008 at 3:10 PM Forum Moderator

Dhama, I'd love to, my friend. But you guys talk about sharing a coffee. Does this mean you're too tight to buy a round? 

Bobby, when you get up to speed, maybe you'd like the job?

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AgentSmith posted Sat, 01 November 2008 at 3:13 PM

I just got a 'generic error' when I tried 16 bit

-I use Photoshop to make my 16-bit images, and sometimes I will have forgotten to make sure the image is 16-bit grayscale, not 16-bit RGB. Bryce will give an error when you try to bring in a 16-bit RGB image.

I'm not sure if that was the problem you were having, but I thought I would mention it for anyone's future use.

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tom271 posted Sat, 01 November 2008 at 3:50 PM

*Dhama, I'd love to, my friend. But you guys talk about sharing a coffee. Does this mean you're too tight to buy a round? 

Bobby, when you get up to speed, maybe you'd like the job?*

Bring a straw.... what's the problem....



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bobbystahr posted Sat, 01 November 2008 at 10:37 PM

I'm a lot better but hate ver 5.5 so don't do a lot and the render times are so insane for any idea I've, with the exception of my one fluky contest entry, come up with I rarely have the computer time to finish a render as my workstation is actually that and spends a fair bit of time buying my food if ya get my drift...bitching over..I could never teach as good as all you longtimers in the one app...I'm far too Imagine rooted I fear to teach anything else.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


dhama posted Sun, 02 November 2008 at 2:12 PM

That was the problem AS, thanks. 👍


dhama posted Mon, 03 November 2008 at 4:48 AM

Added a half moon window and surround (without glass yet). The balcony doors are quite similar throughout so i'll make them seperatly.

dhama posted Mon, 03 November 2008 at 4:49 AM

And the mesh....

bobbystahr posted Mon, 03 November 2008 at 10:28 AM

Looking good...great work on the smoothing of the arches mate...thnks AS for that great tip.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


tom271 posted Mon, 03 November 2008 at 12:07 PM

nice job on those arches dharma...



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dhama posted Tue, 04 November 2008 at 5:49 AM

Added all the window frames, but no backgrounds yet for each window. Now I think it's starting to look a little more complete. Stiill have to create a texture from the original photograph for the stonework.

Click for bigger pic..


bobbystahr posted Tue, 04 November 2008 at 11:00 AM

Can't wait to see this finished..yer getting as good with terrain modeling as anyone I've seen.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


tom271 posted Tue, 04 November 2008 at 11:17 AM

@Dhama:

I like to correct my misspelling of your name..  I spelled out Dharma instead of Dhama...  sorry

Your building is coming out fantastic..



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dhama posted Fri, 07 November 2008 at 4:59 PM

Now textured with glass added to all windows.....

Staticon posted Fri, 07 November 2008 at 5:02 PM

I'm sure I just saw a little person look out of the window. :lol:

Looking excellent, though. 👍


dhama posted Fri, 07 November 2008 at 5:27 PM

Another view with depth of field just for fun.

Staticon posted Fri, 07 November 2008 at 5:35 PM

DOF works very well in this.

I like it a LOT!  :b_cool:


tom271 posted Fri, 07 November 2008 at 5:43 PM

Beautifully done...  I modeled a building front a while ago and would love to do the rest of the building facade in this manner...    I really like this Dhama..  Excellent use of Bryce's terrain lab.



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bobbystahr posted Fri, 07 November 2008 at 6:36 PM

Holy Shit man...I am for sure blown away now...had a stab at this a day or so ago and even creating the maps itself is daunting. Having tried an arch window, my hat is certainly off to you...brilliant work indeed.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


dhama posted Sat, 08 November 2008 at 4:34 AM

Thanks for the encouragement guys. I will upload to free stuff soon, mainly as a how it's put together model... but one can always use it in a scene as well.
Now down to construction a whole scene. Yesterday I went back to the museum to photograph other textures, for the courtyard for instance.


dyret posted Sat, 08 November 2008 at 9:07 AM

Wow! 😄


dhama posted Sat, 08 November 2008 at 10:15 AM

Finished scene can be found here: [ http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1777842](http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1777842)

bobbystahr posted Sat, 08 November 2008 at 11:03 AM

see my comment at the image.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


TheBryster posted Sat, 08 November 2008 at 11:52 AM Forum Moderator

I wish you guys would stop uploading photographs to the Bryce gallery.

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All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster


And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...


bobbystahr posted Sat, 08 November 2008 at 12:15 PM

Quote - I wish you guys would stop uploading photographs to the Bryce gallery.

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Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


dhama posted Sat, 08 November 2008 at 12:45 PM

Sorry mate, i'll stop immediatly...... ICM might object. :laugh:


kyoto_kid posted Sat, 08 November 2008 at 5:25 PM

...OK that tears it,  Gonna fire up Bryce tonight when I get home and play a little more with terrains and primitives. It'll be something a lot simpler mind you but I have to give it a try.

This is a very interesting process which nets some really impressive results.

BTW this forum is now bookmarked.



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dhama posted Sat, 08 November 2008 at 6:17 PM

Well that just makes my efforts well worth the time spent. I wish you well with your modelling.
If people just realised how useful and how remarkable Bryce is, there would be a lot more using it.

I'm convinced that Bryce is the only software that can do almost anything and give excellent results without the user really trying.


kyoto_kid posted Sat, 08 November 2008 at 6:36 PM

...one of the things that made me a bit hesitant at first to really dive into Bryce were the render times I kept hearing about.  However based on my experiments, I now realise those are using the highest render and ray trace settings with very complex scenes.  Even though the render process is slower, I notice my system runs a fair bit cooler than in Carrara and Studio which I think is why I kept experiencing render crashes after 2 - 2.5 hrs with those applications.

...about 400$ to go until I can get my dedicated 3D machine.



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[Intel Xeon 5660 Hyperthreading 6 core CPU, 24GB GSkill Ripjaws 1333 DDR3 Tri Channel RAM, Nvidia Titan-X GPU with 12GB GDDR5 & 3072 cores, 1 x AData 240 GB SSD (boot) + 1 x 2TB HDD, EGVA 850 G5 PSU Antec P-193 with more fans than Justin Bieber.]


Analog-X64 posted Sun, 09 November 2008 at 10:40 AM

Now this project would be awesome for a Tutorial.


bobbystahr posted Sun, 09 November 2008 at 11:00 AM

Indeed it would my friend...indeed it would ....Now get busy dhama....LOL.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


dhama posted Sun, 09 November 2008 at 12:40 PM

See what I can do.


bobbystahr posted Sun, 09 November 2008 at 1:18 PM

Good on ya man.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again