Why are you guys picking on Jen X. She is the staff here. Sure she has to make judgment calls from time to time, and occaisionally they are biased and unfair. But she's human no?
Complaining to her would be like complaning to the doorman at a cinema that the film was boring. You'll either get a blank look or get tossed out.

This site used to be a community of people sharing information about the product and the works they enjoy looking at, or the software they use. It is no longer that. It is entirely a commercial entity and the reason it exists is to fund merchants and site admins. This is a commercial reality.

Whatever is allowed is thought through and reflects the fears and sometimes greed of the PTB. That is how it is.

The PTB will only change rules if it is in their commercial interests to do so. That is their job. They cannot, by law, contravene this arrangement.

So be happy with what you have, don't take it out on Jen, and if you get trampled on by the corporation - well thats your tough luck.

I don't agree with this new policy shift (and it is new cause its one thing to proclaim a rule, another to enforce it. There are many laws that are in place, that are not enforced).  But frankly I don't read the forums anyways unless someone points out something in one.

This whole No commercial content only raised my interest cause it created so much heat.

But it will all die down, a lot of people will leave, and another site will take their money.

Wheather it turns out to be a commercial mistake - only time will tell, and then osity share holders can sue their board of directors

Until then - like it or lump it.

:ohmy:

Quote - This site used to be a community of people sharing information about the product and the works they enjoy looking at, or the software they use. It is no longer that. It is entirely a commercial entity and the reason it exists is to fund merchants and site admins. This is a commercial reality.

Nothing more needs to be said.

IMHO this site has lost it's luster because of too many rules. And the fact that once something is set in place, it's pretty much like banging your head against concrete trying to reason with the powers that be that their decisions are not always the best ones or in the real best interests of the site as a whole.

You need members to sell things, and with rigid rules people leave, not only members, but also vendors and that's shooting the company in the foot. But it's not my foot, so I don't know why i care so much, but I do.

This site is certainly not the fun and educational place it was when I first signed up.  That really disappoints and saddens me a great deal.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi

**It all goes without saying.

Acadia - what happened to your icon? Use to be cute and fuzzy.****
**

kitty pic needed 

I don't understand. What's up with JenX ??? :blink:

CASETTE
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"Poser isn't a SOFTWARE... it's a RELIGION!"

Quote - **It all goes without saying.

Acadia - what happened to your icon? Use to be cute and fuzzy.****
**

hehe!  I still had my great Halloween one that Bluecho made for me.  

I changed it to a cute and fuzzy one. This  is Chynna, my 16 1/2 year old kitty.  You'll probably have to refresh the page or clear your browser cookies to see it.

You can read her miracle story here:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2736324

For the last few months I've been paying it forward and when I get back to work, next year I want to set up a fund that will help those who are in similar situations and have an otherwise healthy pet that needs a "simple" procedure such as a dental or a spay or neuter etc, 

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi

What a beautiful kitty!  Her fur looks like she's made of merangue.
Very huggable.

One of my two kitties, Bubba, just had a big abscess on his chest couple of weeks ago, I was running in and out of the vet like crazy.
Now he has a shaven chest, looks funny. I tell him when he grows up, he'll goes some hair on his chest.

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Thanks!  Her fur is really soft. It feels like down. And she is such a love bug! I wake up with that cute little face pressed against mine, or a couple inches away. In fact that's how I go to bed most nights too.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi

I daresay yer right, raj.  the current snafu makes me wanna start doing porno
again.  now if I can just find a site where they'd wanna see it ...... hmmmmm....
and where tasteless parodies of cartoon characters are allowed :lol:
but this site is still where I'd go to get the latest freebies.
no, wait, they don't allow those posts anymore.  it seems I just can't win :crying:

what new policy shift?

Quote - what new policy shift?

See these locked threads:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2754697

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2754720

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi

Quote - Thanks!  Her fur is really soft. It feels like down. And she is such a love bug! I wake up with that cute little face pressed against mine, or a couple inches away. In fact that's how I go to bed most nights too. 

Oh, yes, that's how my Tigger is. I love it. Last nite she was cold, so she crawled under the covers all the way.  Other days she sleeps in her little bed, under a blanket, on my nightstand!

This is one of he rolder pictures, but you get the idea :D

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ahhhh thanks

Quote - > Quote - Thanks!  Her fur is really soft. It feels like down. And she is such a love bug! I wake up with that cute little face pressed against mine, or a couple inches away. In fact that's how I go to bed most nights too. 

Oh, yes, that's how my Tigger is. I love it. Last nite she was cold, so she crawled under the covers all the way.  Other days she sleeps in her little bed, under a blanket, on my nightstand!

This is one of he rolder pictures, but you get the idea :D

She's adorable!

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi

Quote - I changed it to a cute and fuzzy one. This  is Chynna, my 16 1/2 year old kitty.

Now that's what I'm talkin bout! Yanno you really need to meet up with sazzy. She's a big time cat fan like you.

goes off to read the cat thread

BTW - sibling cat is a hit.

icanhascheezburger.com/2008/10/27/funny-pictures-cat-say-why-you-squish-yerself-stop-squishing-yerself/

Quote - BTW - sibling cat is a hit.

icanhascheezburger.com/2008/10/27/funny-pictures-cat-say-why-you-squish-yerself-stop-squishing-yerself/

Yes! I saw the other day.  Tons of hits.  That was a great caption you came up with!  I've even seen it being sent around via email.

Hobo is the one standing on the box. Freeway is the one inside the box.  Both are very mischievous kitties!  lol

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi

Quote - She's adorable!

Thank You
She's such a Love, I can easily say she's the love of my life.  Over on her pillow, on my desk right now, dozing off.  oops, I woke her up, she's rolled on her back, staring at me.

Sorry I'm being so mushy... LOL

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Hey. What's that sound?

I know. Its RajDarge gritting his teeth seeing the thread he started being infested with fuzzy kittehs.

OMG moderator how do i lock this thread. Is become another Cat lover Free For all (ACLFFA)
Help me please Jen

See? I got mental powers.

mental and powers perhaps used in the one sentence, certainly not as a 2 word juxtaposition. Feel free to add in any preposition, adjective or expletive that any sane cat ignoring person would.

You'll never get the ladies to dig ya Raj unless you get down with the kittehs. Women like a guy who is strong, self sufficient - but most importantly gets along with their assorted cats.

Here is another of Freeway and Hobo.  They do get along :)

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi

Here is another of Freeway.  He was trying to wash away the evidence, but he missed a spot!  LOL

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi

Quote - You'll never get the ladies to dig ya Raj unless you get down with the kittehs. Women like a guy who is strong, self sufficient - but most importantly gets along with their assorted cats.

Yep! There is really nothing like a man who likes cats. I've actually broken up with guys who have not liked cats or have been allergic and wanted me to get rid of my cats.  

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi

well see with you acadia the writing would be on the wall. So to a cat-ignorer like myself, a relationship with you would be emotional suicide. Luckily I have stumbled on the first woman I met that shared my antipathy with cats and made her my own, so I can sleep easy at night (just like every other married man).

but on the whole, most men who claim to like cats, are probably trying to get into yer knickers, or tolerating them for practice so that they can, in the future, get into said knickers.

Quote - but on the whole, most men who claim to like cats, are probably trying to get into yer knickers, or tolerating them for practice so that they can, in the future, get into said knickers.

We even get jobs and change our underwear on a semi-weekly basis just to impress. There's no end to it I tells ya!

Quote - Yep! There is really nothing like a man who likes cats. I've actually broken up with guys who have not liked cats or have been allergic and wanted me to get rid of my cats.

I've been told that I have a way with animals. Most times it goes like this - I walk into a place of a woman [invited mind you] I've just met and their cats simply can't get enough of me. Of course the lamb chop I rubbed onto my body does help a little.

LMAO!!!
Simon wants you to adopt him if I die, Vel .
hehehehehehe

ohs noes , its BASEMENT CAT ! run away ........

miss nancy , yer welcome at "the other place" but no porn allowed ... erotic art is fine though

Quote - LMAO!!!
Simon wants you to adopt him if I die, Vel .
hehehehehehe

I'll adopt him - but you won't die sazz. People live longer in Canada.

hides pork chop in pants pocket

Cat ignorer?

And I was beginning to like you for kicking this thread open - you just had to go spoil it :P

Another for teh kitteh!!!

I dont hate cats, we just have an agreement. I will ignore them, and they spend their lives sitting on me and rubbing my legs and everything else. They know goddamit, they know.

ROFLMAO!!!

Sounds like they're winning :)

I thought it was a forum rule , one kitty pic for every 50 posts , more if its getting dull.

So for those cat ignorers heres a hamster pic just for you ..

Argh!!!  My eyes!!!!!

:P

For JenX.

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Quote - Here is another of Freeway and Hobo.  They do get along :)

OMG, that's just too adorable!!!

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Ouch RAJ, my eyes....
I can't make it out, what is it?

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its just a random pic from my gallery I thought I would make in ascii. It was a dumb idea - but the cat made me do it.

lol

nooooooo, the cats have taken over.

it needs to be viewed in a fixed font like courier. It looks like a womans face to me . 

Ah, I can see it in my notepad!
Did you do that yourself, character by character, or is there a program that does it?

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I have a heap of carpathian gnomes that do my bidding. They spent a solid month llaying out each letter in lead characters. I scanned it in....

No its a ascii art converter that I dowloaded from somewhere
there are a heap of them on the net.
i would talk about them but the PTB don't own them so I cant.
sorry

Raj No disrespect but why do you feel the need to try to protect someone who quite obviously doesn't need it? I mean if JenX wasn't up to the job or didn't have the backbone to take a few verbal shots then she (I hope I got that right) would not be in the job at all.

Like I said or hinted at on the other thread, this place ceased to be a community the day it changed it's name from PFO to Renderosity.

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So, where is the community these days? 

Download my free stuff here: http://www.renderosity.com/homepage.php?page=2&userid=323368

Good question, if you find out let me know will you? ;)

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Funny..... we've got someone who hardly ever posts in the forums coming to the defence of a mod. I know mods need to take thought decisions at times and they should take actions when needed, but if someone is going to defend a mods actions, I don't think I would take someone who has posted 56 times in over 6 years too serious.

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Due to the childish TOS changes, I'm not allowed to link to my other products outside of Rendo anymore :(

Food for thought.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYZw0dfLmLk

You better take me serious, boy, cause I'm your worst bloody nightmare.

I always wanted to say that. It has a kind of ring to it.

so attacking the man proves your point eh?

Jen X needs protection from those who needlessly do her/him (who really knows on the net anyways) an injustice.

Sure she moderates - but she does nothing but trumpet the corporate line. So I suppose you thing that berating the door attendant is gonna get the film changed?

And the reason that I don't hang around posting in these meandering, rather pityful, forums is that they always go one of 2 ways:

1. A slagging match where he who smears longest has the worst verbal diarrhea
2. Silliy images about cats

We've gone through phase 2, now on to phase 1.

And you know, I'm really over this personal attack bulls**t cause I know I am awesome in bed. And then I roll over and go to sleep.

If you want to get in a reall bun fight, go to otica thunderome. A no holes barred brawl shall you have. But you wont see me  there because of reason 1 and reason 2. I 'm not fond of cats, and I don't need to resort to personal insults cause I'm good in bed: which gives me a lot of self confidence.

So leave Jen X alone, she's just doing her job. She could be better at it, she could be worse.

so looking over you home page (mainly to get an Idea of who it is that is calling me inconsequental, and perhaps to get some ammunition too). So forums are your thing. I do other things on this site. Like pictures of girls with very nice boobs. Leave me alone, I don't want to share in your oblivion - I have my own oblivion to explore.

Raj

Now you're just being silly.

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Quote - Now you're just being silly.

absolument.

 Hi Acadia,
I am interested indeed, but I don't have a yahoo ID and don't want a yahoo email addy.
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Passion is anger and love combined. So if it looks angry, give it some love!

Da thread is borked from kitty love. 

Quote - You better take me serious, boy, cause I'm your worst bloody nightmare.

I always wanted to say that. It has a kind of ring to it.

so attacking the man proves your point eh?

Jen X needs protection from those who needlessly do her/him (who really knows on the net anyways) an injustice.

Sure she moderates - but she does nothing but trumpet the corporate line. So I suppose you thing that berating the door attendant is gonna get the film changed?

And the reason that I don't hang around posting in these meandering, rather pityful, forums is that they always go one of 2 ways:

1. A slagging match where he who smears longest has the worst verbal diarrhea
2. Silliy images about cats

We've gone through phase 2, now on to phase 1.

And you know, I'm really over this personal attack bulls**t cause I know I am awesome in bed. And then I roll over and go to sleep.

If you want to get in a reall bun fight, go to otica thunderome. A no holes barred brawl shall you have. But you wont see me  there because of reason 1 and reason 2. I 'm not fond of cats, and I don't need to resort to personal insults cause I'm good in bed: which gives me a lot of self confidence.

So leave Jen X alone, she's just doing her job. She could be better at it, she could be worse.

so looking over you home page (mainly to get an Idea of who it is that is calling me inconsequental, and perhaps to get some ammunition too). So forums are your thing. I do other things on this site. Like pictures of girls with very nice boobs. Leave me alone, I don't want to share in your oblivion - I have my own oblivion to explore.

Raj

 You Tell em' Raj!

Uses Jedi mind control powers "You will give me all your cats!" After the passing of my pagan kitty Alexander the Great Kitty it's been hard for me to get another but I feel it's time. I miss the sound of falling objects from the book shelves....LOL!!

BTW he was called Alexander the Great Kitty cuz when he was a kitten he just moved right into the house and conquered EVERYTHING! What was his was his and what was ours was his...LOL!!

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raj that was truly funny.
i have a question, though.  are the moderators paid staff of renderosity?  after all, looking in on the very top of the forums you notice some people moderating more than one forum.  and god knows a moderator probably has to check in here all the time.  seems like that can be crazy time consuming.  why do it for free?  why enforce rules and earn acrimony for free?  surely there is a salary involved.

go that way really fast.
if something gets in your way
turn

All Your Kitty Are Belong To Us.

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> Quote - All Your Kitty Are Belong To Us.

Really?  Not based on Sabina's expression,  lol

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able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi

Now I've seen everything, how did you get Sabina to sit still in that stuff? LOL :D

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appluads raj's rant for the funness

nothing darker than chocolate Zollster

and for dork: I have no idea if  mods get paid. I suspect they do. Maybe even more than wallmart gophers.

Hurrah for Raj, The mods here do their jobs as they can, they don't make the rules. I say they're all fine mods. And not because I haven't been spanked, cause I have, a few times, but have found it is much better to whimper, roll puppydog eyes, and wag my tail than to try and bite them. Bitting and vitriol never works for anything.

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Quote - Now I've seen everything, how did you get Sabina to sit still in that stuff? LOL :D

Sabina isn't my kitty so I'm not sure how her Meowmy managed to get her to sit still. But I will ask her.  It's such a cute picture.  There are other Christmas Kitty pictures from last Christmas, but this one is the cutest!

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi

 HI Raj,
agree with everything you said although "Sure she moderates - but she does nothing but trumpet the corporate line. "  I'd say she interprets the corporate line probably more than trumpeting it.  I hope the corporate line isn't really as tough as what JenX is, but I've written to them to see.
Love esther

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The cat pictures have trickled to a stop. So I vote the thread be locked.

I must admit that the photo of the things climbing up that lady's leg was somewhat unnerving,
like "the creeping horror of Ipswich" or something. :lol:

but anyway, I don't want any of us to develop any self-referential ideation in regard to
any of the marketplaces here or elswhere.  if any of these poser-related sites experience
a drop in sales, it's due to the dreadful state of the world economy, and not to any differences we
might have about how the various forums are run.

Quote - I must admit that the photo of the things climbing up that lady's leg was somewhat unnerving,
like "the creeping horror of Ipswich" or something. :lol:

but anyway, I don't want any of us to develop any self-referential ideation in regard to
any of the marketplaces here or elswhere.  if any of these poser-related sites experience
a drop in sales, it's due to the dreadful state of the world economy, and not to any differences we
might have about how the various forums are run.

I must agree, I don't think very many customers of the marketplace ever even bother to check out the forums. (Perhaps they are the smart ones :)

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THIS is a worry >>

Quote - BTW - sibling cat is a hit.

icanhascheezburger.com/2008/10/27/funny-pictures-cat-say-why-you-squish-yerself-stop-squishing-yerself/

You've been published!

http://ericnakagawa.files.wordpress....lolcatbook.gif

The lolcats image you did of my friend's cats was published

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/funny-pictures-sibling-cat-squishes-his-brother.jpg

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi

Quote -
Like I said or hinted at on the other thread, this place ceased to be a community the day it changed it's name from PFO to Renderosity.

 
AMEN! I've been here since PFO was run by Willow and Grey. Not perfect, grant you, but it
WAS a nice community of Poser fans. I would modify your statement just slightly. While
the community started it's slide into the crapper when PFO became Renderosity, the death
knell was the opening of the Marketplace. I buy, like everyone else, but I don't fool myself into
thinking this site is anything but a commercial enterprise. Those who think in terms of
community, have never seen the heyday of the PFO, or the 3DCommune in it's very earliest
days.

Greywolf

The WalMart scenerio!  "Progress" is a dual-edged sword.  If we really want a mega-mall, it seems we've gotta sacrifice the neighborhood's  Mom & Pop general store & coffee shops.  They just won't coexist.

However, stop and consider how many sites you'll still hit daily - - after ten years. 

IMHO Rendo has truly done a better job than most in successfully growing the shopping center without paving over the parks.

It's not the fault of Jen X. She's a pretty good moderator actually. This censorship is something that goes on in the entire world these days: Corporations are  turning people into consumer-slaves and consumers aren't supposed to complain. Consumers aren't supposed to think.Consumers  are supposed to consume.

. Renderosity is a lot more free than we realize. I mean we can actually have our Ot-threads and political  discussions here without the goon squad kicking in the door. We can exchange ideas and thoughts  freely here. Rendo is a lot better than  we think. I mean, I absolutely hate corporations with every fiber of my being and even I have to admit Renderosity more humane than "Nokia". .....And I don't even work here and probably never will ;)

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Attached Link: "I Like to Watch" by Heather Havrilesky

(Sorry to keep bumping this with the unfortunate title Jen)

 Here’s an interesting essay, at Salon.com, on the propensity to form nostalgic attachments to early incarnations of works.     Looks at how Message & Content is adapted and modified over time to match a changing audience,  and typically, one will outgrow the other.

 -- ""Of course you liked early R.E.M. best," I want to say. "You were 17 years old and drunk on tequila and in love with a girl who didn't know you existed….” --

from
"I Like to Watch" by Heather Havrilesky at Salon.com:

 http://www.salon.com/ent/tv/iltw/2009/01/18/battlestar/index.html?source=rss&aim=/ent/tv/iltw

I know I've noticed this thread before, so I wanted to pop in.  First, um, thanks, I think.  I hope!  I don't do this job for the thanks, I do it...partly out of habit, and partly because I actually like you guys :P

Also, while we don't technically get "paid" for our work here, Renderosity does gift us.  No, not going to go into detail.  And, yeah, some of us run more than one forum/gallery.  It's kind of hard and confusing sometimes, and, in my personal experience, it makes me strive to learn what I can do in the programs...which is sometimes hard during our Annual Foot Shooting Jamboree.  :lol: 

And, regarding nostalgia...here's a quote from my favorite movie reviewer.  (When's the last time someone quoted one of them??  LOL) 

You know why it's still fun to watch Fast Times at Ridgemont High? Because you never had to watch Spicoli grow up and try on a tuxedo to marry Jennifer Jason Leigh. - Dave White

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