Paula Sanders opened this issue on Jan 03, 2009 · 33 posts
Paula Sanders posted Sat, 03 January 2009 at 10:38 AM
Has anyone created an image in Vue that is grayscale? I have turned Vue images into grayscale ones in Photoshop, which is not a problem since colors can be manipulated by themselves. What I am wondering is has anyone converted colored materials into grayscale using the colored material as the base? I don't want to create grayscale materials by themselves. Is there anyway to do a convert to grayscale per material?
melikia posted Sat, 03 January 2009 at 11:37 AM
yes, paula... am workin on screenshots for you right now =D
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Paula Sanders posted Sat, 03 January 2009 at 11:45 AM
Thank you - can't wait to see them
melikia posted Sat, 03 January 2009 at 11:52 AM
wont be long now =D a series of 5 screenshots showing you exactly how, and 1 final rendered image (preview mode) to show you that it is, indeed, grayscaled now. =D
now to get them so they'll show up on here...
i'll get this all figured out here =D
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gillbrooks posted Sat, 03 January 2009 at 11:55 AM
I saw a render int he gallery a few weeks ago that looked like a b/w sketch and the notes said 'all done in Vue'. I think it made POD at e-on too but I can't remember who did it
Gill
melikia posted Sat, 03 January 2009 at 12:00 PM
1) Collapse any truely identical materials ... saves headaches. In this one, i collapsed parts of Daz's beanstalk, and worked only on the "stalk". Open the material you wish to edit.
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melikia posted Sat, 03 January 2009 at 12:01 PM
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melikia posted Sat, 03 January 2009 at 12:02 PM
you want a MATH NODE
CONVERSION
COLOR to BRIGHTNESS
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melikia posted Sat, 03 January 2009 at 12:03 PM
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melikia posted Sat, 03 January 2009 at 12:04 PM
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melikia posted Sat, 03 January 2009 at 12:04 PM
So you can see how it changed the stalk from the green - to gray!
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gillbrooks posted Sat, 03 January 2009 at 12:06 PM
Attached Link: Forest Sketch
Found the pic I was thinking ofGill
melikia posted Sat, 03 January 2009 at 12:10 PM
Btw, that works great for individual items...
but what if you want the WHOLE image grayscale?
editting all those materials.... what a PITA???!!
there is actually a preset atmosphere in Vue that uses post render options to change your image to a Black & White (i.e., grayscale) image You can find it under "effects - others"
you can always start with that, too, and play around and see exactly what they did... oh i see... post processing, color correction, and saturation is set to (minus) -100%
(thanks, gill!!! i was curious which one you were talkin about... wanted to see it!)
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gillbrooks posted Sat, 03 January 2009 at 12:16 PM
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gillbrooks posted Sat, 03 January 2009 at 12:17 PM
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melikia posted Sat, 03 January 2009 at 12:20 PM
yepyep, those would be the very ones!!!
nice "quicky" b&w, Gill - but then, your work is always fabulous =D
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gillbrooks posted Sat, 03 January 2009 at 12:22 PM
I didn't know there was a preset atmo for that .... just found if after your post :lol:
And thank you :b_bashful:
Gill
Paula Sanders posted Sat, 03 January 2009 at 12:29 PM
Thank you both soooooooooooo much. I had no idea there were that many ways. I never thought of the post production since I never use it. I need to play with them all now and find a combination to use. The function editor, tho a pain, might be the way to go for controlling color and how the different colors relate to each other as grayscale. etc.
melikia posted Sat, 03 January 2009 at 12:35 PM
yep, theres always more than one way to de-fur a feline ;)
or in this case... de-colorize an image LOL
and you are very welcome, Paula =D
if i want complete control over my materials and how they interact, i go to the function editor/material editor.
i think a nice combination of the post-processing & material/function editor will do what you want very well indeed. and i, too, tend to forget about those post-production options LOL.
*grins at Gill - you mean i actually knew something about Vue you didn't? i am IN SHOCK lol.
j/k ;) but it did put a big ol' grin on my face and reminded me - even gurus are still learning new things =D
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gillbrooks posted Sat, 03 January 2009 at 2:00 PM
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*grins at Gill - you mean i actually knew something about Vue you didn't? i am IN SHOCK lol.
j/k ;) but it did put a big ol' grin on my face and reminded me - even gurus are still learning new things =D
Hah! There's tons I don't know - I usually just wing it and see what happens
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Gill
silverblade33 posted Sun, 04 January 2009 at 4:06 PM
Well I quite like cartoonizing renders in Paint Shop Pro or Photoshop ;)
This greysccale one, I'm blowed if I can recal the EXACT steps I took to get the effect, cause it turned out very nice, IMHO.
http://www.silverblades-suitcase.com/sj/deathspider/neogi_prowlers3_bnw1024.jpg
"I'd rather be a
Fool who believes in Dragons, Than a King who believes in
Nothing!" www.silverblades-suitcase.com
Free tutorials, Vue & Bryce materials, Bryce Skies, models,
D&D items, stories.
Tutorials on Poser imports
to Vue/Bryce, Postwork, Vue rendering/lighting, etc etc!
melikia posted Sun, 04 January 2009 at 4:15 PM
very very nice, Silver... looks like a well-done ink or pencil drawing...
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FrankT posted Sun, 04 January 2009 at 4:17 PM
very nice. I have to say I prefer to do the greyscale conversion in PS (only because that's how I'm used to doing it with photos :biggrin: ) but some useful tips there
silverblade33 posted Sun, 04 January 2009 at 4:54 PM
Melikia,
Ta! :) eyeha it is really cool
wonder if I used actions in photoshop, or script sin PSP? will need ot try and check original file
"I'd rather be a
Fool who believes in Dragons, Than a King who believes in
Nothing!" www.silverblades-suitcase.com
Free tutorials, Vue & Bryce materials, Bryce Skies, models,
D&D items, stories.
Tutorials on Poser imports
to Vue/Bryce, Postwork, Vue rendering/lighting, etc etc!
gillbrooks posted Sun, 04 January 2009 at 5:19 PM
Here's a quickie pencil/ink sketch of my last render using Painter
Gill
silverblade33 posted Sun, 04 January 2009 at 8:27 PM
Ooooh! :)
"I'd rather be a
Fool who believes in Dragons, Than a King who believes in
Nothing!" www.silverblades-suitcase.com
Free tutorials, Vue & Bryce materials, Bryce Skies, models,
D&D items, stories.
Tutorials on Poser imports
to Vue/Bryce, Postwork, Vue rendering/lighting, etc etc!
melikia posted Sun, 04 January 2009 at 10:29 PM
SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Paula Sanders posted Mon, 05 January 2009 at 12:23 PM
Attached Link: http://www.perpetualvisions.com/art/peacefulvalley.htm
The conversions are really interesting. All are so different. IRhanks Gill for sharing the one you did in Painter. It has an oriental feel to it. Here is one that I did a while back using Vue 6 I and converting it layer by layer in Photoshop since I used multipass rendering.
melikia posted Mon, 05 January 2009 at 3:19 PM
BEAUTIFUL, Paula! it sure does look like a B&W photo... that had a bit of work in the darkroom to prouce such excellent contrast =D
beautifully done!
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Paula Sanders posted Mon, 05 January 2009 at 3:56 PM
Attached Link: http://www.perpetualvisions.com/new-articles/zone-system/zone-system.html
Thanks Melikia -After doing it, I wrote a tutorial: http://www.perpetualvisions.com/new-articles/zone-system/zone-system.html. We had a wonderful 5 months long exhibit of a private collection of incredible Ansel Adams' work at the Gilcrease Museum. It was over 140 original prints produced by him. That's what inspired me and seeing it again before it closed is what got me back thinking Vue and black and white images.
VIRAMIS posted Wed, 07 January 2009 at 2:33 AM
Hello
I have a small question, in the scene "Mustang" (the scene where there are all the planes in the sky with a Fw190 burning and smoking and a P-51 Mustang) available with Vue6, the render is in black and white how can i do to render it in color?
silverblade33 posted Wed, 07 January 2009 at 7:55 AM
change the camera settings, the Post Preocessing is set to have -100 Saturation, that removes ALL the colour form an image, same as with Photoshop
turn the saturation up to 0 or whatever you wish ;)
"I'd rather be a
Fool who believes in Dragons, Than a King who believes in
Nothing!" www.silverblades-suitcase.com
Free tutorials, Vue & Bryce materials, Bryce Skies, models,
D&D items, stories.
Tutorials on Poser imports
to Vue/Bryce, Postwork, Vue rendering/lighting, etc etc!
VIRAMIS posted Wed, 07 January 2009 at 9:30 AM
hum Ok well done i find it !
Thank you very much! ; )
And happy new year ^^
