Forum: Bryce


Subject: Air/Steam Vent

AgentSmith opened this issue on Feb 02, 2009 · 55 posts


AgentSmith posted Mon, 02 February 2009 at 12:11 AM

Well, I did a tiny bit of Brycing around today. I was mostly interested in building the blades for a vent and then controlling them being open or closed via linking to a hidden primitive. It all worked well.

'Course, I then got way into building the frame. Its a Terrain painted in Photoshop.

Hope you all had a good weekend!

AS

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ThunderStone posted Mon, 02 February 2009 at 5:39 AM

looks good! What are you going to put it in? A scifi scene?


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TheBryster posted Mon, 02 February 2009 at 6:49 AM Forum Moderator

I'd stick a hand in from the other side with just the fingers showing through the blades.........

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Stoner posted Mon, 02 February 2009 at 7:22 AM

Great texturing and fine modellingwork

Good spelling is overaytead


AgentSmith posted Mon, 02 February 2009 at 8:08 AM

Yeah, I have a scene in mind, but who knows how long that will take. Maybe build one part each Sunday, 'til its all done, lol.

I had these images in my head back from when I was playing half-life 2, and would walk out of a small tunnel, into an open, exterior area. Lotsa pipes, vents, cables, etc. Something like that.

AS

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FranOnTheEdge posted Mon, 02 February 2009 at 2:13 PM

I love scenes like that, I've been working on one myself for... well ages.

I've got some hanging cables done now but those are on the laptop and I can't be bothered hoiking it out and plugging it in, I'd have to clear a space on the desk first....

But here are a few shots of previous incarnations:

Why is it that the things that make a scene most interesting - like hanging cables and tiny details, take the longest and can sometime be the most laborious to model?

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

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AgentSmith posted Mon, 02 February 2009 at 3:25 PM

NICE scenes ya got there Fran...;o)
Digging those doors.

Yeah, the details...the little things...thats what can truly help trick the viewers eye into seeing something as more realistic.

The spots of rust, the dirt in the cracks and crevices, fingerprints, and scratches. And, that's just talking about textures.

Of course, with any sci-fi scene is the pipes, cables, chains and wires, lol. I like to try and work as many different textures in there as possible, like trying to work wood and water into the scene just a little.

AS

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skiwillgee posted Mon, 02 February 2009 at 9:03 PM

AS,

Just curious and eager to learn... could you post the 2d image you used for a terrain?


AgentSmith posted Mon, 02 February 2009 at 11:45 PM

Of course.  ;o)

I'll get a link for it as it is a 16-bit tiff, and I can't attach it into the forum post.

Hold on....

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AgentSmith posted Mon, 02 February 2009 at 11:56 PM

There's a jpg preview, but you'll want to use the link to get the tif inside the zip file. [ http://www.kirkdunne.com/files/blind_cover_01.zip](http://www.kirkdunne.com/files/blind_cover_01.zip)

Inside the Terrain editor just use the "Picture" button to load the tif.
(be sure to increase the Terrain size to 1024 FIRST.)

I believe I reduced the thickness of the Terrain from the default 20.48 to 10.00 in that render above.

Enjoy!

AS

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dhama posted Tue, 03 February 2009 at 2:35 AM

Excellent terrain work.


Quest posted Tue, 03 February 2009 at 4:34 AM

Very interesting stuff here. AgentSmith, love your work! Fran…Wow! Nice stuff you’ve got there! Here are some of my Sci-fi panel work:

P.S: You need to see it up close to appreciate it.


FranOnTheEdge posted Tue, 03 February 2009 at 7:24 AM

Okay Quest, tutorial needed on how to create those (- especially the diagonals!)

Thanks AS, popped that texture into my Agent Smith folder...(har har har) (gloatingly)

On those doors, once I had the things UVMapped, I tested them in Poser (and cinema4d etc etc) and was quite surprised on just how good they looked - this is just a quickie, as I don't have the other version on this PC.

I suppose I really ought to connect up the Laptop... (sigh)

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


airflamesred posted Tue, 03 February 2009 at 7:41 AM

Nice stuff from everyone there. Is that metal texture available Quest? - I love it


TheBryster posted Tue, 03 February 2009 at 8:10 AM Forum Moderator

Very nice of old Smithy to come in and give us the benefit of his long experiance.
Thanks a million, Bud!

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FranOnTheEdge posted Tue, 03 February 2009 at 8:12 AM

Ah... not on the laptop, but saved to a DVD.

I thought it had a sort of richness to it...  Like textured chocolate.

Lol.

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

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skiwillgee posted Tue, 03 February 2009 at 8:48 PM

Thanks AS, dwnloaded.
Tks Fran, made myself an AS folder also.
Color me dense (stupid) it never dawned on me to import .tif.   I always used .jpg even though I have always saved in .tif


FranOnTheEdge posted Wed, 04 February 2009 at 6:25 AM

I've had an AS folder for... ooh years now.  I keep squirrelling Kirk's wonderful stuff away, even if I don't use it in a scene I've learnt such a lot from him - either from what he's actually said, or from taking apart his textures and materials.

Hey Rock on Kirk!

Yearse... and talking of textures, how did you do that texture AS?

Flood fill colour, add a little noise?  Or was there more to it than that?

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


RobertJ posted Wed, 04 February 2009 at 6:31 AM

Perhaps i should suggest a FPS-game called Sauerbraten at

http://sauerbraten.org/

I have a load of fun with it, especially with the level editor :)

Robert van der Veeke Basugasubasubasu Basugasubakuhaku Gasubakuhakuhaku!! "Better is the enemy of good enough." Dr. Mikoyan of the Mikoyan Gurevich Design Bureau.


pumeco posted Wed, 04 February 2009 at 4:36 PM

Looks neat, AS!
It would suit the same sort of scene as those VR specs you made.


AgentSmith posted Wed, 04 February 2009 at 10:41 PM

and talking of textures, how did you do that texture AS?

Just a quickie image texture. I wrap them "world cubic" on Terrains such as this as the edges can show bad stretching of an image texture if used paramatrically. That's just the downside of using a terrain with beveled edges. ;o(

But, when I get a chance, I will re-make this Terrain at 2048x2048, and then export out the Terrain as an obj for much better uvmapping. I already tried it at this resolution of 1024x1024, and it actually looked decent as 250k poly obj, but the screw heads looked very bad, so I'll re-do it.

Pumeco...yeah those VR specs are still a favorite build of mine. Will use them one day fer sure, lol.

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AgentSmith posted Wed, 04 February 2009 at 10:47 PM

Here's the texture. It's an original one of mine, so you all feel free to use it however you wish. [ http://www.kirkdunne.com/files/blind_cover_tex_01.jpg ](http://www.kirkdunne.com/files/blind_cover_tex_01.jpg) 2048x2048, seamless-tilable, 1.5mb

The forum pic is just a preview, use the link above to get the full sized version.

AS

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FranOnTheEdge posted Thu, 05 February 2009 at 9:13 AM

Oh that's great AS, thanks very much indeed.  Interesting that in close up it is a little reminiscent of galvanised steel.

I'd still like to know in detail how you made it though, then I could try that method to make some of my own.

Don't worry if you're strapped for time, but if you did happen to have a little time available and could do a quick run through on how you made it.... I for one would be ever so grateful.

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

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http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


AgentSmith posted Thu, 05 February 2009 at 11:29 PM

I should have a moment this weekend, to do more than just write quick replies.

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FranOnTheEdge posted Fri, 06 February 2009 at 11:32 AM

That'll be great, thanks AS.  I didn't expect it that quick!

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

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http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


ThunderStone posted Fri, 06 February 2009 at 9:41 PM

LOL... Bryster and AS, you both gave me an idea and I went and darned created the image. My masterpiece is here "[Ooops!](http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1827932)" 

Here is a tease...

Had fun with it AS... LOL

Oh I partially used the Pro Render setup... (with the mats)... to render with the premium setting means that you won't see it till the end of next month... GADS!!!! Wish there was a way to get it done with POV-RAY... At least I will see the render within 2 hrs or less.


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OS: Windows 11 64-bit
Poser: Poser 11.3 ...... Units: inches or meters depends on mood
Bryce: Bryce Pro 7.1.074
Image Editing: Corel Paintshop Pro
Renderer: Superfly, Firefly

9/11/2001: Never forget...

Smiles are contagious... Pass it on!

Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday

 


Quest posted Sat, 07 February 2009 at 2:16 AM

With apologies to AS…didn’t realize at the moment that we weren’t talking about the same thing and therefore misleading the thread. To those few interested in my techniques for developing sci-fi panels created using Photoshop…I’m in the process of creating a tutorial in that forum’s tutorial section. Mind you, those same textures can be turned into 3D heightmaps for Bryce with some manipulation. Particularly if you can convert them to 16 bit grayscale. Not all converters will satisfy the Bryce engine though. See Bikermouse or AgentSmith for 16 bit “tiff” procedures.

TheBryster posted Sat, 07 February 2009 at 8:11 AM Forum Moderator

LMAO@TS !!!  By the way, I'm not 'someone'.
:lol:

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And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...


ThunderStone posted Sat, 07 February 2009 at 8:16 AM

Quote - LMAO@TS !!!  By the way, I'm not 'someone'.
:lol:

Okay... it's fixed! Giving you all the "gory"... er... "glory" for the comment about the fingers... LOL  :lol:

TS


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OS: Windows 11 64-bit
Poser: Poser 11.3 ...... Units: inches or meters depends on mood
Bryce: Bryce Pro 7.1.074
Image Editing: Corel Paintshop Pro
Renderer: Superfly, Firefly

9/11/2001: Never forget...

Smiles are contagious... Pass it on!

Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday

 


TheBryster posted Sat, 07 February 2009 at 8:28 AM Forum Moderator

Available on Amazon for the Kindle E-Reader

All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster


And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...


FranOnTheEdge posted Sat, 07 February 2009 at 9:58 AM

LOL!  Love the fingers, Thunderstone!

Hey Quest, You will let us (or at least me, since I'm one of those interested) know when you have that tutorial done?  Pretty please?

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


Quest posted Sat, 07 February 2009 at 10:40 AM

Sure will Fran...watch your fingers! LOL

FranOnTheEdge posted Sat, 07 February 2009 at 10:51 AM

Goodie!

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


FranOnTheEdge posted Wed, 18 February 2009 at 6:34 PM

Any news on this yet?

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


Quest posted Fri, 20 February 2009 at 12:06 AM

Fran, I'm working on it as we...eh...speak. I should have something up by the end of this weekend barring any problems. I've been trying to decide the best layout so that I can post it here in the tutorials section and also make an Adobe PDF file from it for email sharing. There are lots of variables involved since I would also like it to be available to Mac users as well but I don't know if PC and Mac can share PDF files created in Windows. Some feedback on this would be welcomed. I've also been busy creating my new avatar amoungst other things. LOL....Besides, aren't you running ragged yet with all your uni projects?


Quest posted Fri, 20 February 2009 at 12:27 AM

The evidence...😉

airflamesred posted Sun, 22 February 2009 at 4:06 PM

Hang on a minute that looks like origami!


TheBryster posted Sun, 22 February 2009 at 4:57 PM Forum Moderator

Ah-So!

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All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster


And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...


Incarnadine posted Mon, 23 February 2009 at 11:38 AM

Someone looking over my shoulder just misread that as origummi - would that be the art of folding gelatine bears? Sorry - couldn't resist.

Pass no temptation lightly by, for one never knows when it may pass again!


Quest posted Mon, 23 February 2009 at 1:23 PM

LOL...what am I going to do with you guys? I thought I'd pick up the banter since the possibilities seem endless but decided to leave well enough alone. This is turning out to be a lengthier tutorial than expected; I hope it’s worth it. So far I have 22 PDF pages and counting. Pages being images with explanation. I’m guessing I can get two of them on one Renderosity tut page. I’m thinking I should be finished with it tonight or early tomorrow. Then it needs to be approved by Rendo before it’s posted.

Anyone know if PDF files created in Windows XP using Photoshop CS3 are readable in Mac? I think I’ll post this question in the Photoshop forum also.


TheBryster posted Mon, 23 February 2009 at 1:46 PM Forum Moderator

*Anyone know if PDF files created in Windows XP using Photoshop CS3 are readable in Mac? I think I’ll post this question in the Photoshop forum also.

Available on Amazon for the Kindle E-Reader

All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster


And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...


Ang25 posted Mon, 23 February 2009 at 3:25 PM

@Bryster - Are you picking on Mac users? I've never owned one so I guess I can't be offended.

@Quest - 22 pages and counting Oh MY, you know I"m interested in this tutorial, you know I have a short attention span, ummm what was I saying? Oh yeah, looking forward to giving it a try!


Quest posted Mon, 23 February 2009 at 4:44 PM

If it’s not PC or Bryce to The Bryster it’s all heresy and out comes the comfy chair for the cardinal…LOL.

Yeah, I’m now thinking of revamping it to give a short version without all the detailing. Part of the problem is that it will be geared towards the beginner and intermediate levels. As such many of the procedures need to be explained as concisely as possible for those who are not as familiar with the program to follow along. Also, the subject matter lends itself to different aspects such as being able to create 3D cabling, 3D monitor screens, 3D lights and buttons of all types, lettering and decals, 3D grill vents, realistic texturing, grunge detailing and so forth that can be quite time consuming. So I will only be lightly touching on some of these aspects and perhaps do the others in future tutorials and then let the reader bring it all together in their work. Hello! Ang, have I lost you? LOL!

 


Ang25 posted Mon, 23 February 2009 at 6:07 PM

Roflmao, yes about 3/4 along the way I started to drift then saw my name and finished reading, lol.


skiwillgee posted Mon, 23 February 2009 at 7:46 PM

Quest,
Beware, I be lurking in the shadows and will snatch her up if you leave her too far behind. 


Quest posted Mon, 23 February 2009 at 7:57 PM

LOL...Ang, beware the shadowy lurkers!


Ang25 posted Mon, 23 February 2009 at 8:50 PM

:b_unbelievable:

Should I be scared?


skiwillgee posted Mon, 23 February 2009 at 9:09 PM

I sure hope not.  slips back into darkness.


Quest posted Mon, 23 February 2009 at 10:17 PM

ROTFL...be afraid Ang...be very afraid! :rolleyes:


Ang25 posted Tue, 24 February 2009 at 3:28 PM

What's scary is that blank post of mine. I swear I didn't do that, lol.


FranOnTheEdge posted Sun, 08 March 2009 at 5:22 PM

Quest,

Yes I am very busy, but I still want to know!!!

Lol!

I need to ask, when something is tentatively offered, hoping that I can go back to my emails and find it again when things calm down - or I need a break.

Which is what I've done now - took a break I mean.

So is the tut ready then?  the big one with lots of info!

I like lots of info, and anyway, a) newbies can follow, and b) there may be a segment that I also need more info on, and until you look at a tut you never know what may turn out to be something you do understand and what may be something you don't...

Whatever it turns out to be I look forward to its arrival, with great anticipation and possibly bated breath.

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


Quest posted Sun, 08 March 2009 at 10:12 PM

LOL…good gosh Fran you’re like a galactic black hole swallowing and gulping down graphic matter! I’m on it girl …hehe. It’s just that I’ve gotten bogged down a little! Read the announcement at the top of the forum “And the winners are…” on page 2, I talk about how I’m super saturated with a tutorial because I had to back track and had to rewrite it, this is the tutorial in question…lol. Not only that but I had to find out if the eventual PDF file would be Mac readable so I posted in the Photoshop forum to make sure. This week, as it was last week I’ll be very busy with real life so I may not have time to get around to it.

The tutorial is intended for Photoshop beginners and intermediates and every time I re-read what I have so far done it seems I have to go back and explain some other part for fear of losing someone trying to follow along. I’m absolutely sure someone is going to be totally confused and frustrated by it and I’m trying darn hard not to let that happen. On the other hand it’s getting so much attention that at the end it might be a letdown after all the hype. At the end I certainly hope some will benefit from it.

Fran, once I get it out there, I’ll make sure to send you a site message. And I’ll post it, probably in the Photoshop forum with maybe something here to let those interested know. And thank you so much for showing an interest. Please bear with me a little bit longer.

 


FranOnTheEdge posted Mon, 09 March 2009 at 5:38 PM

Okay okay, (backing off with a guilty expression) I just didn't want you to think I was no longer interested - cos I am interested.

Very. 

But you take whatever time you need - I know what it's like to be swamped.

And don't worry about it being a let down - I'm darned sure you know a lot more about this sort of thing that I do, and I just want to know how you do it.

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


Quest posted Mon, 09 March 2009 at 6:36 PM

LOL…thanks for the reprieve Fran, I’ve got you in mind.


FranOnTheEdge posted Mon, 09 March 2009 at 7:51 PM

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Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com