**Ok, so on with the next challenge!
Here's what Quest posted about his ideas for it. Please feel free to post any questions you might have here. The Challenge Entry page will be up shortly.
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**Good luck to you all.

From Quest.....  
 
For our next challenge I was originally thinking about paying homage to Chesley Bonestell one  
of the first artists to depict space exploration. You can read about him here:

[ http://www.nmspacemuseum.org/halloffame/detail.php?id=97](http://www.nmspacemuseum.org/halloffame/detail.php?id=97)

and see some of his work here:

[ http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=navclient&rlz=1T4DKUS_enUS291US291&q=Chesley+Bonestell&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=x9WtSb3lLYGCtwev6oGEBg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=1&ct=title&ei=2dWtSZ7ZHZDWnQeLotiNBg&gbv=2](http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=navclient&rlz=1T4DKUS_enUS291US291&q=Chesley+Bonestell&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=x9WtSb3lLYGCtwev6oGEBg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=1&ct=title&ei=2dWtSZ7ZHZDWnQeLotiNBg&gbv=2)

But I didn’t want to be limited just to outer space art so I’m thinking a combination space art and sci-fi/fantasy futuristic landscape/cityscape art, lots of room to play around with here.

As for rules…yuk! Absolutely no restrictions on the software here. Everything goes! All that Bryce can muster and then some. Ultimately, the final render must be done in Bryce. It can be postworked but all postwork must be noted specifically. You can import models and textures from outside programs but you must specify the sources. If the sources come from artists other than yourself, they must be given credit. In essence, you must explain how the image was created.

To show you what I mean and also to inspire view these images:

[ http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&rlz=1T4DKUS_enUS291US291&q=sci+fi+landscape+&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=Zw-vSbm2OdLjtgfF3tn9BQ&oi=property_suggestions&resnum=0&ct=property-revision&cd=1&ei=8w-vSarnLNvFmQfyxJX5BQ&gbv=2](http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&rlz=1T4DKUS_enUS291US291&q=sci+fi+landscape+&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=Zw-vSbm2OdLjtgfF3tn9BQ&oi=property_suggestions&resnum=0&ct=property-revision&cd=1&ei=8w-vSarnLNvFmQfyxJX5BQ&gbv=2)

I hope I covered all. If I didn’t, I’m sure someone will remind me. Good luck to all and have fun!  

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Quest also posted this.......

**Anyway, here's another web site gallery which contains some very talented artists in this genre which might be helpful or inspiring. Have a look see thru the galleries. Please enjoy!

www.spacejetters.co.uk/html/museumguide.html

Oh yeah, forgot to mention that when you get down to the "spacejetter's" link, there you will find tutorials and models geared towards Bryce.

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Ok, But only if Orbital is banned from the challenge.

Banned? I'm hoping Rochr would join in as well! LOL!

*I'm hoping Rochr would join in as well!

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OMG! one of my favourite old books about space has imagery from Chesley Bonestell in it! :D Its quite funny to read that book now, all the stuff thats in there and used to be cutting edge, some of it is now proven to be wrong, etc.  Theres even a concept in it proposing a flying saucer design :D
good memories ^_^

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@ Dhama Hey thats not fair! Right I've been busy doing my exhibition stuff for the last couple of months, and haven't done anything new for a while. So I'm relishing getting stuck into this challenge.

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Go for it, Joe! Dhama would need to grease my palms with loads of dosh before I would even consider letting him win. :lol:

(OK so I'm kidding)

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This sounds like a very fun subject for the challenge, especially the way Quest stipulated it!

OK guys here we go!!!! I want to see entries from Orbital, Vorban, Rj001, 1971s, Prestoud, Whiskey Sierra, BamBam 131, Ruud, Theseus88bc, Grafikeer, Geirla, Waldodessa, NefariousDro, Nanotecht, Duo, Thunderwolf, Keymilan, Pitoutu etc etc... If this is a scifi/space challenge all the scifi heads HAVE TO enter (real life permitting of course!!). Not trying to exclude anyone or forget anyone, of course everyone should enter challenges, push yourselves!! Have fun and keep creating!

Oh.. does that mean I can't then...  :huh:

Didn't think you wanted to enter anymore anyway?

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LOL…Dhama, everyone is welcomed to take part in the challenge including you. You are no different than anyone else. Lown, if you can get even half of those artists involved this would be one hell of a challenge. I can think of quite a few others as well. It will certainly raise the competition and surely get the creative juices flowing. Shooooo…maybe I can even sell tickets! :lol:

Well if we get as class acts as those in this thread, then it would be worth competing.

I think maybe some of those you mentioned Lown need a IM to give them a heads up. Maybe they don't come in here that often.

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OK but let's not discourage those not so well versed in Bryce. We need to be helping the new guys as well.

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Help comes in many forms. Sometimes after the challenge is over too, like when the winner is kind enough to share some of their techniques as was the case with Quest. I'm looking forward to what may come of this challenge.

This is why I stipulated that the artist "...must explain how the image was created". That way we can all learn from each other. The goal here is to create something imaginative, to think outside the box away from everyday commonality. To get those creative juices going. We mustn’t think of this as a contest to win for the sake of winning but as a challenge. To push ourselves to try something new and different even if we feel we won’t get to first place with it. But wouldn’t you be pleasantly surprised if you did?

I'm in...sounds like a great challenge,and I would hope all the other sci-fi'ers would jump on board too!

Quote - This is why I stipulated that the artist "...must explain how the image was created". That way we can all learn from each other. The goal here is to create something imaginative, to think outside the box away from everyday commonality. To get those creative juices going. We mustn’t think of this as a contest to win for the sake of winning but as a challenge. To push ourselves to try something new and different even if we feel we won’t get to first place with it. But wouldn’t you be pleasantly surprised if you did?

LOL!, yes indeed; I would be surprised...... :lol:

Well good Dhama because if you weren’t surprised then it wouldn’t be much of a challenge…would it? I’ve not tried an image in this genre, not really. This would be a first for me. I have ideas going around in my head but nothing solid yet, whereas the situation may be different with another artist. Perhaps they have disk loads put away of props they’ve developed through the years that are just begging to be used. So yes, I would be pleasantly surprised if I even made it to the top three or even honorable mention. But it would get my feet wet and perhaps even be encouraged to further develope. This, I feel, is the point of the challenge.

 

Well, I have something ready for upload now. It's new for me too, but it's the best I can come up with.

Dhama, we have two full months for the challenge. You have plenty of time to develope or even change your entre. The entre page isn't even up yet! Give yourself some time. Most artists have to look long and hard before they can even post it because we all know there is always room for improvement. Many of us have past images which when we look at them later we often say to ourselves: I should have done this and tried that. Creating art should be pleasurable and relaxing, this of course unless you're in the business of art where time is imperative. But we have two full months. How many times can one change their mind in two months? But this is entirely up to you.

Why change my mind on what i've done, it's certainly the best I'm gonna get it.

LOL...okay...but don't forget, we have two full months!

Well, I have to say this topic has filled my head with all kinds of ideas, I just have to try to pick out the best one for my abilities, at this point. At least, as you say, we have the better part of two months. That would even give me, with my low record for output, a chance to try out several ideas and renders. Great topic Quest.

Actually, it's more like 1 and a half months now lol.

Been working on this over the weekend. Not sure if it will be my actual entry, as I do this type of thing quite a lot. Going to see if I can come up with something different.

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Hey that looks awsome! If you decide not to enter it give it to me and I'll enter it in my name. :lol:

I need a bit of clarification. The RULES say importing models is allowed. If I built a model in Wings could I import that? Imports just seem odd in a BRYCE challenge.

 Cyba, if imports are allowed that means your Wings model is allowed too. Generally "imports allowed" means that models made in different applications may be used in your entry as long as the final render is done in bryce.

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Cyber-Storm, the importing of mesh objects has always been a staple of Bryce. The Bryce application provides for such importations so there’s absolutely nothing odd about it. Poser people do it all the time.

Yes, as Rayraz says, any model built in any program can be brought in and be made part of the image and that includes Wings 3D. Your final image must be rendered in Bryce. Any retouching or added effects (post-work) done on the final Bryce image using outside image editors are also allowed. For the purposes of group enlightenment, the artist must account for all image manipulations. This includes what applications other than Bryce were used to create the image and how it was incorporated into the image. If you are using models created by another artist/model builder, credit must be given to that person/persons or commercial establishments.

 

Cyba: What part of "importing models is allowed" don't you understand?

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I am litterally busting at the seems with ideas for this, it will be my downfall... lol

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I understand importing models, it is just with Bryces ability to create it's own, having a challenge where BRYCE is little more than the render engine seems a waste of time. With post work also allowed it may as well be a mixed media challenge.

Please don't start this arguement again it's like the hot20 all over again.
I'd say do your stuff in Bryce and you will get more recognition for doing so.

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Cyba, no one said you couldn’t do all your modeling using Bryce…in fact, knock yourself out doing so but Bryce was programmed to import external objects.

 

Quote - I'd say do your stuff in Bryce and you will get more recognition for doing so.

In my experience, this statement simply isn't true mate.
 

Any ideas when the upload page will be ready? I've always had an untidy PC and am likely to accidently delete my entry if it's left too long lol!

Bryce is just a tool, the challenge is about creating art :-) or even just pretty imagery.

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Very true, anyone would think Bryce is the only 3d app to have an import function.

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Dhama, the upload page should be up around the end of the week. I'm still re-building after a major virus infestation that required the wiping and cleaning of 4 hdds.

In the meatime, burn your stuff to a cd if you're that scared of losing it.

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Quote - Bryce is just a tool, the challenge is about creating art :-) or even just pretty imagery.

Then why is it called a Bryce challenge? :tongue2:

Quote - Dhama, the upload page should be up around the end of the week. I'm still re-building after a major virus infestation that required the wiping and cleaning of 4 hdds.

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Ok mate.

People aren't going to be arsed to come up with a challenge if we get this response everytime.

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Sheesh! no wonder the world still has wars... everyone is so trigger happy.

Quote - > Quote - Bryce is just a tool, the challenge is about creating art :-) or even just pretty imagery.

Then why is it called a Bryce challenge? :tongue2:

Because bryce is the tool of choise for most artists here ;-) wether or not its the only tool allowed is up to the person organizing the challenge.

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it was a rhetorical question, hence the tongue smiley..... another case of irony no doubt. :lol:

 I know, i just cant help answering questions :-P its a bad habit of mine lol

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*Sheesh! no wonder the world still has wars... everyone is so trigger happy.

*Well, that would be you, Dhama.

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Quote - *Sheesh! no wonder the world still has wars... everyone is so trigger happy.

*Well, that would be you, Dhama.

Just me? :huh: You mean all this time it was only me that was trigger happy? You jest; surely......

Lolz! Here we go again.

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I heard this guy was taking up Bryce in his retirement.

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And then the fight started! BTW...Nice forum upload Orbital!

Bryster only said that to force a response from me... but it ain't gonna work see... i'm retired; I sold off the boxing gloves.
As for Bush, he's using Carrara.... it's easy to tell.... he's not sure what to do next.

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Obama: "cuz its an apple"
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It was not my intention to start this little go round, but well done to every one that had a say. It is always healthy to have an opinion. I was a little confused by how little was required for an image to qualify as a bryce entry. I may not agree but I wasn't pushing that point. My enquiry was exactly what I asked. Can I import MY MODELS? I was just making sure. As a purist I would say no. BUT <<NOTE the BUT, as this challenge allows them, I am more than happy to live with the rules for this challenge.

I understand your point of view Cyba_Storm. I used to think that the Bryce challenges should be 100% Bryce, but ya know, if we did it that way, I think it would limit the amount of entries as well as a lot of peoples capability to create some images that are truly spectacular.

The thing that bugs me is when people import objects into Bryce , render it, call it thiers and never mention where the models came from, or if they say it was all created in Bryce when it is very obviously not 100% Bryce.

I create my own models in Rhino and render them in Bryce and always say where I made the model. I post my stuff in the Bryce gallery because it is BRYCE that makes the image look so good. Without Bryce, I would have nothing but a bunch of models that look very plain.

I am enthusiastic about Bryce, I hope it continues to be developed because it really is very powerful. Did you see my recent "Elmer's Buwwets" ? I surprised myself on that one, Bryce just has some nice power , I give it more credit that I give myself, as I should I think.. :)

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Cyba_Storm, I’m no new comer to Bryce. I’ve certainly done my fair share of Bryce modeling. I respect your purist ideology but don’t agree with it. I’ve seen some of your work and it is obvious that you’ve put a great deal of work into your Wings 3D models over a long span of time. I think it’s fantastic and meticulous work.

If I had stipulated that all modeling had to be done using Bryce. The models must be new and of your own construction, meaning they cannot be borrowed from other artists or reused from previous images or works. All special effects must be done solely using Bryce.

As has been seen in the past, only a handful of people would participate, and only those that specialize in Bryce are more likely to. That is not embracing the whole community and many people would be left out. I'll say no more in this regard.

 

After all it's about having fun.

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I feel compelled to say one thing here, but only because of it's continuing theme... As challenges go, The Bryce challenge has always, and will always be an enigma to me. Importing is fine, it's part of Bryce, but one has to remember that it is no challenge to import something.....(unless it's 3dsmax LOL!) Creating mostly in Bryce is the challenge.

..and as Quest says "I'll say no more in this regard".... but we both know that would be difficult. :lol:

U know what, i think the winner of the previous challenge earns the right to set the rules for the new challenge. So anyone who disagrees.. simply has to do their best to win :-P Survival of the fittest! lol

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Rayraz, i'm not saying this is how it should be here, and i'm specially not trying to undermine the rules set out by Quest. If you took the time to read it, you'd see i'm just stating a fact.

 I meant it more as a "we can all keep sayin what we think but it wont really change anything so lets just get back to the challenge" kinda statement

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Nice work, Weezerhopw.

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Quote -  I meant it more as a "we can all keep sayin what we think but it wont really change anything so lets just get back to the challenge" kinda statement

Who is trying to change anything?

Honestly i dont know if anyone tries to change anything or if anyone wants to change anything or if we're all just randomly speaking our mind. All i know is that theres a ton of different opinions floating around and we all are rather aware of those so theres no point in repeating them further.

This doesnt specifically apply only to you dhama, nor to any other users in this thread, in fact im as guilty of this fact as anyone. It's just a thing i realized.

We are now already on the 4th page and sadly very little of those messages are spent with tossing around some creative ideas, show work in progress, sources of inspiration, etc. u know creative stuff supporting the topic of this challenge.

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Thats ok Rayraz, it's always been expected that non conformists opinions are greeted with negative replies from those who belong to the club.

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This is what I think! :P hehe it's the bunny pancake club!

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 just pop it in the microwave cor 10 minutes at 1200W and your pancake with roasted bunny is done!

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eewww.

 Those pancakes could be made in Bryce easy enough....but the bunny is obviously an import....and the background is really nothing more than a photo.....so, it would never be allowed in the Bryce Gallery, let alone the challenge....but, it's a nice try weezerhopw!

I'm afraid the bunny with the pancake would not qualify as an entry to the current challenge.

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Quote - I'm afraid the bunny with the pancake would not qualify as an entry to the current challenge.

As long as someone built the mesh, texured it, and replaced the pan cake with some alien teleport disk, and placed it in stange setting, I can't see why not. : )

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Boy!  I know I'm a little late to this parade. I haven't been keeping up with the challenges. This one sounds like a lot of fun. I'm in.

Rjay, glad to have you!

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Ummm did you test it? I may be looking in the wrong place, but I'm still seeing last month's entries. :P

yay, its up!

Phew!!!!

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Hey Dhama! Why haven't you uploaded your entry? I mean come on!!!!! You were ready ages ago, yelling how you were worried you might lose it in your untidy pc. Get your butt into gear and get your entry up there now!

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Bryster, some people have a life during the weekend :-P hahaha

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...and some have been working a continuous 36 hour shift.....

 shhh i was tryina make him feel guilty for all the comfy chairs hes handing out :-P

36 hour shift thou.. damn.. thats a lot!

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That's no excuse, Dhama. Get a move on! :lol:

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Quote -  shhh i was tryina make him feel guilty for all the comfy chairs hes handing out :-P

36 hour shift thou.. damn.. thats a lot!

Well seeing as I have the best job in the world, it's a breeze.

Quote - That's no excuse, Dhama. Get a move on! :lol:

Well, actually that wasn't the excuse... but this one is; I can't be ars'ed right now, so you'll have to wait. :tongue2:

Quote - Well seeing as I have the best job in the world, it's a breeze.

You work as a lingery model hotness evaluator?

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"Well, actually that wasn't the excuse... but this one is; I can't be ars'ed right now, so you'll have to wait. "

Thanks for that, Dhama. I'll use that as an excuse next time you complain about the upload page not being ready.

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Go ahead my friend, i'll just take it the same way as you did. :lol:

ok, so wheere's all the entries! :P I see Zeee-ROH... and no mine is nowhere near ready, heck it's not even completly concieved yet..but.. :P I'm thinking bunny-pancake planet with flying pancakes and lots of maple syrup...maybe...

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Ok, i've uploaded it now mate.... and it's in your honour.

oh god, I can't look! ....me scareded.... :scared:

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Well I just can't be arsed to approve it!

Actually, I'll let you you off this time. I appreciate the honour.

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That's a really amazing image Dhama :) Looks like it could be a book cover, well done on it!

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Quote - Well I just can't be arsed to approve it!

:lol:

Quote - Actually, I'll let you you off this time. I appreciate the honour.

Nothing more than you deserve.

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Decided to enter this instead of the earlier one in the thread.

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That’s a sweet image Orbital! The last one was awesome too. You didn't sell it already did you? ;D

I just want to take this opportunity to remind all challenge entrants that the rules stipulate that ALL artists explain the process of their creation. We love seeing all the eye candy but besides showing off all the creative talent we would like to sample your individual tastes of artistic tools and materials. Your processes can spark other imaginations down other inspirational paths. We want everyone to take something away with them as well as participate. It is not enough to simply say; “I used Bryce and …whatever other software”.  It is also important to give credit where credit is due. 
 

I don't know if I will get my entry finished in time, BUT I did learn how to paint nebula (BIG BRUSH LOL) so not a total waste of effort.

How come there are only two entries, but Orbitals is number 3?

As good as it was the second did not meet the challenge criteria and the artist was messaged and asked to re-submit with proper criteria.

LOL! ok mate, thought I couldn't count there for a minute.

...I need to stop in here more frequently.  I'm already a month behind on this.

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Well get to it Kyoto! LOL

Late getting started on this - but I saw some of his work growing up in the '50s and '60s and never knew his name. Just spent an hour with his images on Google and really enjoyed them. He and others were responsible for me (and millions of other kids) to want to be astronauts ;-) Thought by now we'd be able to vacation on the moon or at least in earth orbit!
Looking forward to re-creating some of his vehicles i(so retro!).

Quote - Late getting started on this - but I saw some of his work growing up in the '50s and '60s and never knew his name. Just spent an hour with his images on Google and really enjoyed them. He and others were responsible for me (and millions of other kids) to want to be astronauts ;-) Thought by now we'd be able to vacation on the moon or at least in earth orbit!
Looking forward to re-creating some of his vehicles i(so retro!).

Same here Dan, I used to have a book with his paintings, and used to look at it almost everynight when I was all so very young...by torchlight (With calls up the stairs of 'PUT THAT LIGHT OUT, IT'S BEDTIME!'). I always wished I could create something like that when I was young, but I really wasn't that good at art.

It was Dan Dare and Hurge's Adventures of Tin Tin that got me going!

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Open letter to "Quest"

Thanks for this challenge.  It finally got me out of a slump.  I've finished my entry but I'll wait 'til closing week to post it. 

You’re quite welcome Skiwillgee. I’m happy to provide the motivation. I’ve had a bit of a setback. Actually several, first I can’t make up my mind what it is I want to enter. There are so many possibilities and after working on something I find that I’m not totally satisfied with it and I then start all over on another project. I’m on my fifth and this totals 35 drafts. I have 35 Bryce files thusfar all marked April challenge 1 through 35.

But secondly my biggest setback is that I underwent eye surgery last Thursday and although I’m healing just fine the eye cannot take the glare of the screen and it tires quickly and starts to tear then the headache starts and then the eye pain sets in. Hehehe...I'm wearing big dark shades they gave me at the hospital to view the screen. So I don’t know if I’ll have anything ready by the entry date before my Cyborg eye heals completely.

 

Quote - But secondly my biggest setback is that I underwent eye surgery last Thursday and although I’m healing just fine the eye cannot take the glare of the screen and it tires quickly and starts to tear then the headache starts and then the eye pain sets in. Hehehe...I'm wearing big dark shades they gave me at the hospital to view the screen. So I don’t know if I’ll have anything ready by the entry date before my Cyborg eye heals completely.
 

Best wishes on the healing process mate, i'm sure you'll be back to your best soon... anyways, gives the rest of us a more equal chance with your current handicap. Heres a 'Quest' smiley for you:

Same as what Dhama says.

  Besides that you need the hard drive space apparently.   I do the same.  One idea starts and evolves into something else until after  too many generations a final render happens.  So when it is all over "challenge scene file1" has no earthly connection to "challenge scene file 14"  and I just wonder "what was I thinking?" and delete them all.

Catarack eye surgery?  I Hope you are 100% soon.

Thanks guys! Yep…a little memento from my saintly childhood days when I got hit in the eye with a brick. I didn’t know how to stay out of trouble then. LOL…come to think about…I still don’t! Over the years it developed into a cataract (in my case...a Cadillac...LOL) but the doctors kept telling me that it was better to hold off surgery until it interfered with quality of life. It was never visible and it didn’t hurt. So things started to gradually get dark and vision badly blurred. Last November I went to have my annual eye checkup and the optometrist said I should go see a surgeon. Finally got around to it and sure enough it had gotten to that point. But they weren’t sure if the lens would adhere due to the prior injury and there was a chance of blindness in that eye so I took a gamble and had it done. So far…so good.

Wishing you a speedy recovery too. And remember to stay away from stretchy things that can snap.
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Hey Ang! You awake today? j/k...thanks! No…no bungee exercise gizmos for me! LOL!

I was telling Ang about my experience and the old timer who was sitting next to me at the hospital. He looked pretty good for an old geezer with flat tummy and all.  It turns out he had knocked his implant lens sideways in his eye while exercising with some kind of bungee cord. Those you but your foot into and then curl your arm with the other end. Well, it snapped and hit him right in the eye knocking his implant around in his eye.

Hugs Back!

Not only am I awake, but at work also. Break is almost over. 2 1/2 more hours till I get to go home and have my st paddy's day supper. Yup, having corned beef and cabbage, somehow didn't get around to having it sooner, lol.
Saw a book at the library too that I almost took out, with hopes it could help me with doing a challenge. But the dang thing had big black circles in the middle of each page. Turned out it was a book about black holes in certain galaxies and so the pictures were useless to me.

I hope it hasn't been in the fridge that long! :tt2:

The corned beef has been, lol. But its in a sealed bag, in that brine. So it should be good. If not you'll hear from me complaining about the food poisoning.

LOL...enjoy!

TTYS!

GWS, Questy!

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Oh thanks Bryster. I'm coming along just fine. Not getting the headaches from staring at the screen anymore. Due to see the optomotrist this Friday for eyeball tweaking.

Best of luck Quest. I've had eye ailments before, and they sure do interfere with doing artwork, especially on the computer. Funny thing, since I've switched to flat panel monitors from my old CRTs, I haven't had the probs I did before.

...been trying to convince my IT dept at work about that. 

Used to have a nice flat panel display then was moved from the Digital Print dept (which also had a nice climate controlled area) to the drafty, cold, noisy warehouse to co manage a client's prodiction account.  I now have this gargantuan archaic old CRT that is pretty much on it's last legs taking up a major portion of my desk space. I actually had to set the brightness and contrast up almost to maximum just to be able to see what's on the screen.  To make things even more "interesting" I am under what is bascally outdoor Merc Vapour (not regular florescent) lighting which has a lovely 60hz flicker rate.

...and I wonder why I am so overtired when I get home from work lately.  The desire to work on my 3D projects is there but as of late, the head and eyes have been saying "we need a rest".

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"*I hate flatscreens. I have an old CRT and a couple of spares somewhere".

• Whatever works for you Bryster.
     I had a HP 21" CRT that I picked up for a pittance at the place I used to work. It served me well for 7 years until it started getting dimmer and dimmer. I hated moving the thing as it weighed approx. 25 kilos, and at least half of that was in the lead shielding alone! It was big and awkward too, and took up most of my desk. Now i have a 22" monitor i can move with 1 hand, and lots of space on my desk for other useful things.

50p: I know what you mean. My last one's screen used to collapse sideways and I had to bash it on the side (exactly 3" up from the bottom right-hand corner) to get it to snap back to the right size. I can't tell you the number of times I've had my wrist in plaster. Not that there's an A&E on Mars. Plastering a fracture is a DIY job over here.

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Are we allowed to enter more than one image? I see Thunderstone has two images credited on the entry page.

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He did sneak a second one in didn't he? I would think not Orbital. It would afford him twice the advantage over those who are still struggling with the one entry and thus it wouldn't be fair. It's like playing the lottery...the more tickets you have the greater your chances of winning. Maybe he'll have a fourth and a fith posted by the deadline date. LOL...

Questy, you have site-mail.

Orbital, (and others) multiple entries have been allowed in the past. 'If you have the time, you can go for it', seems to have been the thinking. However, I will be asking folks for a consensus in the next challenge. At this late stage I don't feel it would be fair to cry foul and change the parameters of the challenge. Thunderstone posted his work in good faith and according to what the system allowed - a checkbox permits or denies multiple entries.

I hope this clarifies things.

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You know, when I saw that the entry box was up, I thought why not post the extra version that I had did. I was going to post the extra one in my gallery but for those of you who thinks that this will increase my chance of winning, I gladly request that the first one be removed as well as the second one and will refrain from entering any more challenges in this forum, since in the first place, I never even win at any of the past challenges. Bryster, I will send you sitemail regarding this.

I have no intention of sharing my art with the likes of those who thinks I am cheating.

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@Quest,
 Probably not, 'cause I have just requested that both of my entries be removed. I am not going to enter another challenge in this forum. Have fun and good luck....

@Orbital,
  Your Cloud City tutorial is very very good! I borrowed a few things from you and another tutorial and combined them to produce a good render. Too bad, it will not be seen. Thanks for the tutorial tho.

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I'm not bothered if you can enter more than once, I just wasn't aware that you could, thats all. Thunderstaone don't take this to heart pal, put your entries back in!!!!!

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Thunderstone, how dare you try to compete with me!! I'm the only moaner in this forum, i'm the only one that'll stamp my feet when something is not how I like it.....

You can do as you please Thunderstone but if you can post more than once then so can all other entrants regardless of talent. In that case it shouldn't be called a challenge but an open gallery and we already have one of those and it has entry limits.  My argument isn’t based on quality vs. quantity since we all know that even the lowly single lottery ticket holder gets lucky.

My understanding is that the system preferences weren’t checked on to disable multiple entries and being this late in the game no alterations will be made. I will stand behind Bryster in this regard.

 

@Quest,
I thank you  for your gracious decree, allowing me to post more than one. And you know what? I welcome multiple entries from the others as it give us more opportunities to see how many scifi possibilities could be rendered (and perhaps a mini tut in how they did theirs). One doesn't show what the person could possibly do with this type of theme. There are many outcomes as there are imagination.

After all this flack about multiple entries, I can see now, why a lot of people  do not want to enter challenges. All it takes is for one person to taint the challenge with innuendo  and sarcasm.

You also want to know something else?

If I do stay in this so-called challenge, I won't bother the likes of you with entries in future challenges, no matter what the theme is or the number of entries allowed. So glad you are standing behind TheBryster on this point.(or are you really hiding behind him ?   )

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Stay in the mix T-stone. 

Don’t thank me TS, if it were up to me your second entry would have been chucked automatically no questions asked…period.

No need to get your panties all in a bunch. You have no idea what TheBryster and me have collaborated about concerning this dilemma. It is presumptuous of you to assume you know what was said between us. I did agree with him that it was late in the game to make the change.  So therefore, I’m not hiding behind him as you so off-handedly tried to convey but with him, so stand corrected.

The one good thing that may come of this is that TheBryster may be taking votes on the issue of multiple challenge entries. Certainly there are many here who don’t care for it. It would certainly be a funny thing if a gifted artist entered multiple entries and won 1st, 2nd and 3rd place consistently. Then no one need apply.

Yes, it’s a wide and interesting theme and I’m sure many artists here have gone through many variations and evolutions of their work. I for instance am on my 48th take. In the process I’ve manage to come up with about 5 - 6 different concepts some good but I put them aside because I wasn’t completely satisfied and started anew down another avenue. Now that you’ve opened the door, should I find myself likewise strangely compelled to upload them all? That now remains to be seen.

I’m astonished to know that I have such diverse power over you that you allow me to control whether or not you would enter future challenges. Personally I can care less what you decide to do. If you decide to enter a challenge, that’s fine by me. If you decide not to enter a challenge, that’s fine by me as well.

Further, there is no innuendo here, no indirect hinting at something but directness.  I don’t think the warranted sarcasm is what has been keeping the folks away from the challenges. For one, this was my first challenge in a very long…long time and my reason for entering it was obvious. No, I think the reason is all the back door sneakiness that has gone on here over the years and the cronyism. 

 

Sigh, here we go again!!!!! This is supposed to be F U N guys!!!!!!

Quote - ....cronyism. 

You jest?....... Surely not; I don't believe it. :lol: Not here, not at the Bryce forum...... :tt2:

Quote - Lown - Sigh, here we go again!!!!! This is supposed to be F U N guys!!!!!!

Not under His Royal Majesty, King Quest's decree. Or haven't you heard???  :lol:

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Oh yeah, forgot the reason I looked at this thread today!!!! Here´s my entry minus the postwork............wait for it................Da Da another scifi city scene YAY!!! 1632 objects, 70101683 polygons. Everything created with prims, terrains or symmetrical lattices. The "trees" are spheres. Would post a screen grab but dont know how to do it!! You just press "PrtSc" right?? So where does it save it to??

A final thought, if someone were to post three entries and came in 1st,2nd and 3rd, so be it! The community collectively voted those three images as the best. Posting multiple entries doesnt really give anyone a better chance of "winning", post ten sucking images and they all still suck!!(not having a dig at anyone there just making a point).
Also, and this is not directed at Thunderstone as other people have made similar comments in the past, if you dont win then your image wasnt worthy of a place, as voted by the collective community. Saying "I never win so I wont enter anymore" is something I would expect my 4 year old daughter to say, I take it no-one who posts here is a 4 year old!!
Rant over!!!!!

Wow, Lown that is great! Not to worry, I've made my decision already. I have entered in the past only one entry and so that is that. HRM Quest has decreed that in his domain, only one entry should be allowed and all others should be chucked out the nearest air hole. You're right tho. You can post 10 entries that sucks and it will still suck  or enter 3 great works and be choosen 1st and 2nd and 3rd. The thing is the whole challenge has been tainted by HRM's decree. But as I have stated, it's not fun any more with attitude like HRM's.  :mellow:

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OK Time out, you Guys!

In the first place multiple entries have been allowed in the past - before my time.

In the second, the system was set to permit mutilple entries - I didn't mess with it because I was too concerned with getting the upload page working and getting the challenge underway. And let me tell you, that process is harder than making art like Rochr.

TS didn't break any rules and no one - especially me - considered that multiple entries would be an issue. This came as a surprise to everyone.

I have been in touch with the concerned and aggrieved parties and tried to smooth the waters. I think enough has been said on this matter and I will be asking the Forum their views on a couple of challenge questions very soon.

Now get on with making art and don't forget to boolean!

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Lown, love the work as usual. I think it’s just wonderful. I can’t wait to see it in all its splendor.

TS, the question was posed and it being my challenge and not knowing I followed up on it. Obviously I don’t agree with the practice but I would certainly go along with whatever is decided in the forum as a whole. There certainly hasn’t been a reason to get all wimpy and girly about it to bring it to a personal level. My posts speak for themselves, I would appreciate it if you didn’t take the low road and stop putting words in my mouth.

Bryster, no one said TS has broken any rules. The question came up and I followed up with you for answers. Yes, I expressed my disapproval of the practice but I’ve made no accusations’. I remember there being some discussion about it in the past but I don’t recall the outcome of those discussions. 

On that note I’ll move onto my 49th take of the challenge. Maybe I’ll change my mind again and start all over.

 

Quest: I didn't say that anyone accused TS of breaking the rules. I just wanted to make things clear.

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Before I read this thread I had uploaded a second image. Am I to assume we are now restricted to one or have I missed pressing something?
 Doesn't a second entry half your chances of winning?

We're still allowing multiple images. However that may change in the next challenge.

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 Hey ThunderStone.. 
I'm sorry to see you've been vicitimzed by a debate about challenge rules..
these debates come about so often yet the outcome is always the same! not everyone agrees on what the rules should be.. many debates have past, no unanimous consensus has ever been reached.
Thats why each challenge gets its own rules assigned by the one throwing the challenge.. The rules said nothing about a limited number of entries, and as such, by the rules of this challenge, you did nothing wrong. Others have confirmed this as well.
As such I'd say its a shame to see your creative efforts withdrawn from the challenge and I'd personally think it would enrich the challenge if you put your entries back in?

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I think it's a real shame... and no finger pointing here, but it's so easy to omit certain rules that may be different for each challenge.

I say that we should either have one set of rules period (this is obviously difficult since many people will not agree on one thing.

Or, the other way is to set precisly the challenge runners own rules so that there is no confusion.

Easy laid out rules the do's and don'ts so that everyone understands from the outset.

Yes, what Dhama said.  If polling does not produce a clear majority consensus then it could possibly be a standing choice of the challenge author, same as imports, post work, etc... are presently specified.  The more concise the rules by the author the less problems foreseen.

I would only beg all who are interested in the forum challenge to refrain from too passionately disagreeing with what the future challenge winners present as the next challenge.  Simply work hard within the parameters stated and hopefully win the next challenge and set your own rules.

Well if there is no clear winner or in other words there's a tie, I think I'll give the deciding vote. Unless of course you want to argue the point?

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You'll give the deciding vote? What do you know? :lol:

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Thought so...... :tt2:

Ok, question…on the challenge entry page right under the deadline cutoff date there is a link to “Entry Rules & Specifications”. Clicking on that link RodsArt specifies that the default size is 800 x 600 and if you read down further to “Entry Restrictions” says Jpg’s no larger than 800 x 600 and under 250kb. But on the entry page itself at the bottom under “Submit an Entry” just above the Browse window it says; “Image: (max 1024 x 1024). So which is it…800 x 600 or 1024 x 1024?

Forget it...I already see that some of the entries are 1024 x whatever.

 Well, my memory isn't too great (and I don't want to add any more problems in this thread) but I seem to recall Rod saying that the 1024x1024 on the entry form couldn't be changed and that the size limits for the challenge were 800x600.
I really don't mind the 1024 and it might be less confusing then having two apparently different rules.

 considering its hard to find a new monitor thats goin on a lower resolution then 1024x768 its probably no problem if people post images of 1024px anyways :)

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I entered an image larger than 800x600 once and I was told to re upload at the smaller size....

I guess something should be done to change that too. There are too many loopholes and contridictions in the challenge that need to be addressed.

It would be nice to change the size setting rules to a more up to date moniter resolution.

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Rod said:
The default Image size is 800 x 600. Due to forum Layout size, these dimensions work well.
Anything larger expands beyond the borders. (and looks terrible)

Here he is only suggesting that 800x600 is the way to go.

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If my waning memory serves me it was also a consideration to those who have dial-up.  Larger size meant longer load times.

I remember opening two windows and viewing one image while the other loaded before I got DSL.

Bryster, it may be another question for the poll; dial-up or broadband?

Willie: Good point!
Guys, does anyone still use dial-up?

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 At home, yes, but I also have DSL at work so it works for me either way.
So my vote would go to 1024 since they do tend to show a lot more detail (IMO).
But if some feel they could no longer participate because of that, that could certainly change my mind.

Chris, I suggest you make the dial-up, image size, multiple entry questions in a new thread

I am very depresed about a recent tragedy. Last week I had a hard drive go bad. Luckily..so I thought,, I backup my stuff on an external hard drive. Welp....All of my br6 files are corrupted. I cannot open ANY of them. This is after a full OS re-load, patches, etc. I have lost a lot. So, IF I submit anything for this challenge, I will have to work all night tonight and tomorrow to do it. I also have currupted models and 3dm files, so I dunno what I am going to do. It's horrible.

From now on, I am backing up to dvd and testing all backups before I go to sleep.

Also, on a different topic, IMO...we need to have challenges like this every month, rather than 2 months..I think it was too long to wait. heck not like I will have an entry now anyway! LOL crap...

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I have a question, when is the deadline for this contest? Also, I wonder if my picture would past muster for this type of contest. As it is hard to do work like Bonestell. He was in a league of his own. As far as my pictures are concern I may get about 20 comments on any given image I post but I see people that post space pictures here at Rederosity that get 3 times the response that I do. I do appreciate all the comment that I get as that means a lot to me but it does make me think if my stuff is just too boring. If the contest is still open this weekend I will try to come up with something if it is not too late.
Could someone let me know about the deadline for this contest.

Thanks,

David

PS: I have been away for a while so sorry for not posting anything lately.

The deadline was posted in the the challenge page, BamBam.
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/contest/index.php?contest_id=1010
I'm afraid entry is now closed.

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Shoot, went to post my image - thought the deadline was 12 tonight!
I really need to pay more attention (or not wait till the last minute!).

That is kind of silly to make the deadline noon. hasn't it been midnight in the past?

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Dan I saw your post here in the forum. I would have given it a vote.

Weezer, as far as I am aware the deadline has always been noon.

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A quick check of challenge archives shows deadlines have been all over the place; from 12pm, 12am, to 10pm.  Most were 10pm under Agent Smith's rule.  So bottom line is check the rules.

Agreed. But There are a number of points I want to raise about future challenges.

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All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster

And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...

 Agreed ;-)

Beware of pointy Martians!