Forum: Carrara


Subject: problem with inserting a vertex object in C7.1.1 Pro

Xerxes0002 opened this issue on Mar 21, 2009 · 16 posts


Xerxes0002 posted Sat, 21 March 2009 at 7:09 PM

It hangs if I do an insert vertex object, it also will hang when I attempt to edit a vertex object.

Whole story:

I have C6 Pro and installed C7 Pro and then 7.1.1 update.

I was attempting to do jetbirds modeling katis character tutorial. I had an empty new scene and inserted a vertex object and C7 Pro locked up. I restarted the computer, tried it again same thing, I let it sit awhile in case it needed to work something out. Eventually had to kill the app.

I reset the preference just in case.  I wiped the tmp files also.

I tried in C6 Pro and it worked fine.

I did the Fruit and Bowl tutorial a little while back with just C7 Pro (not the 7.1.1 update) and things where working fine. I was able to go into the vertex room and do the section on a vertex object for the tutorial just fine. Now that I have 7.1.1 Carrara Locks up when I try to go into the vertex room with the same file.

Any suggestions before I open a bug report, I figured its something here on this machine, if this was a general bug in C7.1.1 then everyone would be screaming but I can't seem to get around it, and am dead in the water using C7.


GKDantas posted Sat, 21 March 2009 at 9:44 PM

I had a lot of model and videos using 7.1.1 (one new today about model inVM room) and didint get this error. Since version 7 has a new openGL engine (a better one), do you have your video drives updated?
Try to add a primitive and convert to VM to see whats happen too... very weird thing...

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Xerxes0002 posted Sat, 21 March 2009 at 10:56 PM

Quote - I had a lot of model and videos using 7.1.1 (one new today about model inVM room) and didint get this error. Since version 7 has a new openGL engine (a better one), do you have your video drives updated?
Try to add a primitive and convert to VM to see whats happen too... very weird thing...

I updated my video drivers a little while back, before I had done the fruit bowl tutorial.

I did that with the primitive and convert to Vertex in the modeling room soon as I told it to convert it locked up.

There is a slight version update from Nvidia I am going to try, to see if it makes a difference.  

It locked up Carrara Hard, and I have to have windows kill it.  

I will post if the new drivers made a difference.

-Milo


Xerxes0002 posted Sun, 22 March 2009 at 1:46 AM

Update:

I installed the latest video drivers and it made no difference.


GKDantas posted Sun, 22 March 2009 at 8:26 AM

I think that next step is to install Carrara again...

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Xerxes0002 posted Sun, 22 March 2009 at 10:39 AM

just tried that, still the same thing.  I am going to have to go back to 7.0  I submitted a bug report though don't know what good that will do.  is yours 7.1.1 or 7.1 in the about box?


GKDantas posted Sun, 22 March 2009 at 11:19 AM

In the Splash screen at startup.

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Xerxes0002 posted Sun, 22 March 2009 at 7:19 PM

Thanks

I am really hosed now.  I went back to 7.0 and the exact same thing, even the file I worked on before now no longer works.

I simply cannot go into the modeling room with a vertex object.

So its not 7.1.1 but now I am at a total loss as to what to do.  I made sure my drivers where the latest nvidia ones.

The application hangs, shows CPU pegging on one of my cores.

anyways there is the update.. I will update the bug report as well


Xerxes0002 posted Mon, 23 March 2009 at 2:06 AM

I think since the extensions are version dependent there should be some kind of check.


GKDantas posted Mon, 23 March 2009 at 3:14 AM

Do you have a plugin outdated?

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Thelby posted Mon, 23 March 2009 at 11:03 AM

So far I have not been able to get anything worth while out Carrara7 Pro. I keep getting Memory Alocation Errors from some of the lightest scenes. I think the whole thing needs serious work on DAZ's part. I will continue with 6 Pro until something is done with 7 Pro. Just my thoughts and experience expressed here, so I don't think you have done anything wrong or that it is your drivers.

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Xerxes0002 posted Mon, 23 March 2009 at 2:24 PM

Quote - Do you have a plugin outdated?

I think that was it, these are the 3 that i pulled out effectively that were 'left' over from un-installs. The shoestring shader is a beta, so I will see if there is another out there.  

01/10/2009  10:15 PM           241,664 Cloth.mcx
12/02/2008  07:10 PM         2,859,008 Shoestring_shaders.mcx
01/09/2009  10:47 PM           180,736 SimpleLightingModel.mcx

so I will dig some more on those and see about the updates.  I could check to see which one it is thats doing it if anyone is curious.

Thanks again for letting me bounce things off and the suggestions.


Xerxes0002 posted Mon, 23 March 2009 at 2:26 PM

Quote - So far I have not been able to get anything worth while out Carrara7 Pro. I keep getting Memory Alocation Errors from some of the lightest scenes. I think the whole thing needs serious work on DAZ's part. I will continue with 6 Pro until something is done with 7 Pro. Just my thoughts and experience expressed here, so I don't think you have done anything wrong or that it is your drivers.

I am sorry to hear that you are having those problem, so far I haven't had any of that and it turned out my problem was a bad plugin.  


Thelby posted Mon, 23 March 2009 at 2:47 PM

@ Xerxes0002
Yeah, me too. I spent the money for the upgrade because I really like Carrara and  now I am back to using 6 Pro. But on the bright side 6 Pro is almost flawless on my system and it is what I learned to use Carrara with, so it is the old glove that fits so well.

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GKDantas posted Mon, 23 March 2009 at 3:03 PM

I had one big problem in the render one time... I simple moved all my plugins (added after installation), and have to copy one by one back until find what plugin was causing all the problem. Now everything works fine, I found the plugin that slowdown the system.

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Xerxes0002 posted Mon, 23 March 2009 at 6:02 PM

good idea.. I put the shoestring ones back and it wasn't the culprit at least.