Can anyone please tell me what Poser character this girl is and in which store I can get it. This picture keeps cropping up in Daz installer files.

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its victoria 4 - i dont know what specific character pack - i would suggest contacting daz

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That's Yannek's work. If the skin is available at all (and I'm not sure it is) then it would be in the DAZ store, search for "-Yannek-".

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IIRC, it's a custom texture on an elite morph and not for sale

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Thank you all, but I don't understand the term 'IIRC'

Okay, so does that make sound business sense for Daz to constantly advertise something, by way of its zips, that no-one can ever obtain?

Why doesn't Daz clearly state "This character is not available"?

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http://www.daz3d.com/i/galleries/0?id=30355&sec=0&_m=d

You should contact Yannek. Image credits state that he only used V4 base. Yannek is one of the top artists around, and it's very likely he could have made the girl just using personal dial spins using V4.

I don't think it's bad business at all to use images of what people made using their product, as their business is a lot more then just character packs.

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I don't think it's bad business at all to use images of what people made using their product, as their business is a lot more then just character packs.

In that case the image should either be in a gallery or at the very least clearly labelled as an artists work. Including the image as part of the commercial Daz installer suggests to me that it is a commercial product. I've noticed that Daz also use other artist's work in banners on their site, but with no mention of what the characters are, so yes, I do think it is daft to show the characters with no indication of how anyone might acquire - at the very least - the base models for thier own work. In that sense it is surely not good business.

For example, what would be the point of a newbiie desiring to illustrate an anime character scene and thinking that all they needed was V4.2 , when they might be better advised to purchase the A3 figure. And I mention A3 because there's something suspiciously anime about the eyes on the above picture which makes me think it might be A3 instead of V4.

That particular image is pretty heavily postworked, I don't think it's a good representative of DAZ|Studio in and of itself. It's a beautiful pic, just not a particularly ethical choice for the DAZ|Studio splash page banner. Not like Yannek is going to come to your house and postwork your D|S renders for you.

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I appreciate people's comments that this image is a particular artst's work. I fear I'm going to have to create my own character using the dials, but the downside is I'm working entirely from memory of the person. It just annoys me that Yanek's character is so similar that it would save me a lot of work getting started on my figure's face, just needing a bit of tweaking.

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I don't think it's bad business at all to use images of what people made using their product, as their business is a lot more then just character packs.

In that case the image should either be in a gallery or at the very least clearly labelled as an artists work. Including the image as part of the commercial Daz installer suggests to me that it is a commercial product. I've noticed that Daz also use other artist's work in banners on their site, but with no mention of what the characters are, so yes, I do think it is daft to show the characters with no indication of how anyone might acquire - at the very least - the base models for thier own work. In that sense it is surely not good business.

For example, what would be the point of a newbiie desiring to illustrate an anime character scene and thinking that all they needed was V4.2 , when they might be better advised to purchase the A3 figure. And I mention A3 because there's something suspiciously anime about the eyes on the above picture which makes me think it might be A3 instead of V4.

I see your point, however, that particular view has never bothered me. I'm used to advertising just about everywhere showing products "Larger then life", or companies using high end outstanding results for advertising, rather then your average run of the mill user results.

If I shose to look at it the way you do, I'd be extremely pissed about Zbrush or MAX and similar software, because I can't create things with it that high enders whose work they use to advertise their software can do.

I agree, it is frustrating, but, I don't see it as 'their fault'. It's just frustrating wanting something I can't get, or have, or make or buy.

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I'm glad somebodyt sees my point. Okay, so would it involve Daz sales staff losing an arm or leg if they substituted this sample image on their zips instead. At the very least it promotes an interest in V4 base model...doesn't it? And following that clue it gets a newbie actively scouring the tutorials on how to create a custom character and where to buy textures, or don't newbies matter these days. Are they not the pro's of tomorrow?

Surely a 10 second label is more 'potentially' profitable than just putting one's feet up and saying "Let them guess what it is!"

By the way, speaking as a model maker, creating the very best models doesn't mean they are going to sell like hot cakes. The more unique and fabulous the model, the more limited its application, not to mention prone to changes of fashion. I think it's the everyday things that are more repetitively saleable, and what's more, for the modeller the simple things are much easier to update or adapt into new models.

I got a reply from Daz. Apparently the original gallery image (but not the zip image) 'does' mention that this character uses V4 base. Daz think this character is an Elite add on, but can't rmember which one. However, having now found the entire image I can create my own custom character with the morph dials and Elite textures.

Thank you everyone here for your most helpful answers. I must say that Yannek is a superb character artist and a credit to the medium. I've rarely seen such realism in a character creation and render, but that's probably due to my lack of browsing in the galleries. I don't intend to copy Yannek's character as such, just have my own custom character for personal use as the inspiration for a story.

I think that product previews should have descriptive text anyways.

"Postwork used."
"Custom lighting set."
"Poses may differ from preview image."
It'd save me a lot of time deciding what to get.

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I think that product previews should have descriptive text anyways.

*"Postwork used."
"Custom lighting set."
"Poses may differ from preview image."
It'd save me a lot of time deciding what to get.

Free sample wouldn't hurt either.

Hah, that'll be the day.

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Quote - I think that product previews should have descriptive text anyways.

"Postwork used."
"Custom lighting set."
"Poses may differ from preview image."
It'd save me a lot of time deciding what to get.

While I agree, it also asks the question of "what is a custom light"? I use a specific lightset on almost all my "candlelit, indoor" images, it's the Albany Night HDRI light that comes with Poser 7. So it's in a way a standard light set, just not the one Poser loads with. And no one in their right mind would use Poser's default lights for a promo image (at least I doubt it)

I usually label my promo pictures with "serving suggestion" - partly for the fun of it and partly because.. well.. not everything on the picture is likely to be included. When I buy a pack of noodle soup I don't excpet real giant prawns and fresh vegetables and such to be included either - even if it's on the picture ;)

I do not think that heavy postwork has anything to do on a promotional picture though. It's decieving and the customers may buy what they think is (for instance) a flawless "model-powdered" texture, only to find out that the flawlessness was all Photoshopped.

Of course a merchant will strive to make his or her product look the best possible, some have specialized artists to make their renders (I know my own promos usually suck) - and I see no harm in that, as long as it is stated that the image is postworked. For my own promos I try to have both "no postwork" pictures of the product, and one where I show the potential of the thing in question. As long as people are aware that "the product will not look like this when loaded in a default Poser with the default render settings" - it's nothing different from any frozen pizza. What you see is not what you get - but what you may make it into with a little extra ;)

What would you recommend for a good default light set?

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This is my default scene:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/rrfilelock/download.php?fileid=33527&key=8122

not perfect, but it has no prerequisites other than IBL,

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Quote - What would you recommend for a good default light set?

This is a good base set - IBL Classic, I aslo like the IBL Darks as well. Here at Rendo, LIGHT is a nice set with variety, !CorVas! SoftLights isn't bad either, plus any of the sets by SaintFox

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