TheBryster opened this issue on May 03, 2009 · 39 posts
TheBryster posted Sun, 03 May 2009 at 5:47 PM Forum Moderator
.....on the STANDARD rules regarding future Bryce Monthly Challenges.
Q1. How long should the challenge run for?
Q2. Should contestants be allowed more than one entry?
Q3. Should there be restrictions on size. IE: 800 x 600 etc. ?
Q4. What would be the best time for the entry deadline? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
Q5. What would be the best time to end voting? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
Q6. How long should voting be allowed? (2 days, 3 days,...)
The individual contest rules - those decided by the challenge setter (the guy who won the previous challenge) will remain in the hands of that person.
The question of imports will NOT be considered because without imports some members, in particular, Newbies, would not enter.
Now heads up! To keep this simple.....Cut and paste the Questions 1 - 6 into your replies and add your opinion after each question. If you wish, you can site-mail me your replies.
If you want to start a conflab, do it in a new post. I want this one to be easy to read and some folks will start to argue and I'm too tired atm to prepare a couple of dozen comfy chairs.
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FranOnTheEdge posted Sun, 03 May 2009 at 6:21 PM
Q1. How long should the challenge run for?
1 month normally
2 months if busy times of the year (like Xmas)
Q2. Should contestants be allowed more than one entry?
No
Q3. Should there be restrictions on size. IE: 800 x 600 etc. ?
Standard sizes for everyone would be best, whatever size that turns out to be. So Yes.
Q4. What would be the best time for the entry deadline? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
This is a nonsense question because R'osity time is so different to normal UK time that I have no idea when anything ends....
or starts...
If I did know I'd say Midnight as I'm around on the PC at those times, but not so around at midday - but that's UK time, so ??? Like I said - nonsense question.
Q5. What would be the best time to end voting? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
Ditto above.
Q6. How long should voting be allowed? (2 days, 3 days,...)
3 days (because of problems cited above)
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airflamesred posted Sun, 03 May 2009 at 6:41 PM
Q1. How long should the challenge run for?
2 months
Q2. Should contestants be allowed more than one entry?
If you have time why not
Q3. Should there be restrictions on size. IE: 800 x 600 etc. ?
800 is too small though a restriction-yes
Q4. What would be the best time for the entry deadline? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
don't care
Q5. What would be the best time to end voting? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
don't care
Q6. How long should voting be allowed? (2 days, 3 days,...)
3 days
It would be nice to end on a specific date (31st for example)
dan whiteside posted Sun, 03 May 2009 at 7:32 PM
Q1. How long should the challenge run for?
1 month (or left up to the winner)
Q2. Should contestants be allowed more than one entry?
1 entry
Q3. Should there be restrictions on size. IE: 800 x 600 etc. ?
1024 x1024 max
Q4. What would be the best time for the entry deadline? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
Midnight
Q5. What would be the best time to end voting? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
Midnight
Q6. How long should voting be allowed? (2 days, 3 days,...)
3 days
grafikeer posted Sun, 03 May 2009 at 7:50 PM
Q1. One month(unless stated by winner of previous challenge)
Q2. One entry
Q3. The larger the better...1024 x 1024 as Dan stated
Q4. Midnight
Q5. Midnight
Q6. 3 days
erosiaart posted Sun, 03 May 2009 at 9:24 PM
ditto as grafikeer says
fran..not a nonsense question..re time ending.. though i get confused with rendo timings..i've given up trying to figure that out.. for pple in the US..rendo timing makes sense.. for us.. it doesn't...
I guess the forum coordinators have to figure out a timing that we can all follow... no matter if we are in the twilight zone or the roaring light zone!
cheers
DAM3D posted Sun, 03 May 2009 at 10:45 PM
Q1. How long should the challenge run for?
1 month, ending at MIDNIGHT of the last day of the month, EVERY TIME.
Q2. Should contestants be allowed more than one entry?
No.
Q3. Should there be restrictions on size. IE: 800 x 600 etc. ?
I think the size should be limited to 800x600 for the image that shows first, (so it fits the renderosity site better) but a link can be present to show a full size image, or open in new window to show full size, with no restriction.
Q4. What would be the best time for the entry deadline? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
midnight on the last day of the month or challenge day.
Q5. What would be the best time to end voting? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
midnight.
Q6. How long should voting be allowed? (2 days, 3 days,...)
3 days.
I think the rules should be set in stone and never argued again.
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Quest posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 1:43 AM
Q1. How long should the challenge run for?
1 to 2 months at the discretion of the challenge setter who should also take extenuating circumstances into account. Things like time of year, holidays and such.
Q2. Should contestants be allowed more than one entry?
One challenge, one artist, one entry.
Q3. Should there be restrictions on size. IE: 800 x 600 etc. ?
I concur with Weezer…800x600 on the board with option to view full size if this can be made possible.
Q4. What would be the best time for the entry deadline? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
This is a little thorny because not all members come from the same global location. New York is typically 5 hours behind London whereas Bangkok is 6 hours before London and Phoenix Arizona is 3 hours behind New York and so forth. If this can be decided then I would have to say Midnight.
Q5. What would be the best time to end voting? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
If we can decide on what to do about question 4 then I would agree midnight.
Q6. How long should voting be allowed? (2 days, 3 days,...)
3 days.
dhama posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 2:16 AM
Q1. How long should the challenge run for?
...1 month
*Q2. Should contestants be allowed more than one entry?
*...No multiple entries unless the artist gives full rundown on their work... i.e. rj001; then they can have as many as they like. After all, this is a learn ing curve for so many; let's not restrict that.
Q3. Should there be restrictions on size. IE: 800 x 600 etc. ?
...I'm happy with 800x600
*Q4. What would be the best time for the entry deadline? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
*...12 midnight Greenwich Mean Time.
*Q5. What would be the best time to end voting? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
*...12 midnight Greenwich Mean Time.
*Q6. How long should voting be allowed? (2 days, 3 days,...)
*...3 days, but it should be required that at least everyone that enters; votes!
orbital posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 2:42 AM
Q1 1 month
Q2 No
Q3 restrictions yes but maybe update the format to modern moniter dimensions
Q4 Midnight then that covers all timezones.
Q5 Either not fussed
Q6 3 days
Lown posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 3:56 AM
1: 1 month
2: No
3:what orbital said
4:MIDNIGHT Renderosity time
5:MIDNIGHT Renderosity time
6:3 days
SndCastie posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 4:08 AM
Sandy
An imagination can create wonderful things
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TheBryster posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 7:13 AM Forum Moderator
Great to have so many replies so quickly, but I did forget one.
I think that it should be a cause for disqualification should an entry be posted outside of the contest arena. In other words, you can post WIPs in the challenge thread only, but you can't post your finished entries in the galleries until the challenge is closed.
All those in favour?
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dan whiteside posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 7:31 AM
but you can't post your finished entries in the galleries until the challenge is closed.
In Favor
SndCastie posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 9:05 AM
In favor
Sandy
An imagination can create wonderful things
SndCastie's Little
Haven
FranOnTheEdge posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 9:37 AM
Yup, in favour.
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
Quest posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 9:56 AM
What Fran said.
vncnt9663 posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 10:54 AM
Q1. How long should the challenge run for?
One month or two depending on the time of year.
Q2. Should contestants be allowed more than one entry?
Only one entry please.
Q3. Should there be restrictions on size. IE: 800 x 600 etc. ?
I like Dan's size for this one 1024 x1024.
Q4. What would be the best time for the entry deadline? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
Midnight. But let us know the time zone.
Q5. What would be the best time to end voting? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
Same as above.
Q6. How long should voting be allowed? (2 days, 3 days,...)
3 days.
Q7. You can't post your finished entries in the galleries until the challenge is closed.
Agreed. And I know I'm guilty of that one.
TheBryster posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 11:11 AM Forum Moderator
All times would be Rosity time which is visible at the top of every page. You do the math for your part of the planet.
(You think you have problems. I have to go by Martian time which has a day of 24 hours, 39 minutes, and 35.244 seconds.)
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FranOnTheEdge posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 11:27 AM
ROFL @ Bryster
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
vncnt9663 posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 11:32 AM
Is Rosity time posted on the site someplace? If so I don't think I've seen it.
Maybe we should start posting on intergalatic time.
vncnt9663 posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 11:34 AM
Never mind i just found it. DUH!
vangogh posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 11:59 AM
Q1. How long should the challenge run for?
1 month or let previous winner decide
Q2. Should contestants be allowed more than one entry?
only one
Q3. Should there be restrictions on size. IE: 800 x 600 etc. ?
no, but no larger than 1024 x 1024
Q4. What would be the best time for the entry deadline? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
midnight
Q5. What would be the best time to end voting? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
midnight
Q6. How long should voting be allowed? (2 days, 3 days,...)
3 days
I agree with no posting of images in galleries until after challenge deadline
Rayraz posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 3:07 PM
Q1. How long should the challenge run for?
Q2. Should contestants be allowed more than one entry?
I too agree with no posting of images in galleries untill after the challenge deadline.
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DAM3D posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 3:15 PM
agreed.
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TheBryster posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 3:17 PM Forum Moderator
Weezer? Agree with what?
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DAM3D posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 3:23 PM
Great to have so many replies so quickly, but I did forget one.
I think that it should be a cause for disqualification should an entry be posted outside of the contest arena. In other words, you can post WIPs in the challenge thread only, but you can't post your finished entries in the galleries until the challenge is closed.
All those in favour?
Agreed :)
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TheBryster posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 3:24 PM Forum Moderator
Thanks!
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And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...
Lown posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 3:34 PM
No posting in the gallery untill the contest is decided?
Agreed!
In fact I thought that was already the case.
skiwillgee posted Mon, 04 May 2009 at 7:43 PM
Q1. How long should the challenge run for?
2 mo
Q2. Should contestants be allowed more than one entry?
one entry
Q3. Should there be restrictions on size. IE: 800 x 600 etc. ?
I prefer a standard maximum size no matter what the dimensions agreed on. 1024 x 1024 max my choice
Q4. What would be the best time for the entry deadline? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
12 midnight Renderosity time
Q5. What would be the best time to end voting? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
Same, 12 midnight Renderosity time
Q6. How long should voting be allowed? (2 days, 3 days,...)
3 days
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No posting contest entry in gallery until contest results posted. **
Quest posted Tue, 05 May 2009 at 1:24 AM
Bryster, perhaps while we're at it we should also consider that entries should be newly created images not something that has already been posted or some image that won an award 2 years ago and you just dug it out from deep within one of your hard drives (I’m being facetious about digging it up). Just a thought.
P.S. Renderosity time is what....Tennesee CST?
Rayraz posted Tue, 05 May 2009 at 10:50 AM
Quest, i agree, old images shouldnt be allowed.
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ThunderStone posted Tue, 05 May 2009 at 5:45 PM
Q1. How long should the challenge run for? 1 month
Q2. Should contestants be allowed more than one entry? If they can do it, yes, otherwise I'll go with the group.
Q3. Should there be restrictions on size. IE: 800 x 600 etc. ? Sizes should be standardized.
Q4. What would be the best time for the entry deadline? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc) 12 midnight Renderosity Time
Q5. What would be the best time to end voting? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc) See above
Q6. How long should voting be allowed? (2 days, 3 days,...) 2 days
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AeroJett posted Wed, 06 May 2009 at 7:13 AM
Q1. How long should the challenge run for?
1-2 months, depending on time of year like Christmas
Q2. Should contestants be allowed more than one entry?
Naaa
Q3. Should there be restrictions on size. IE: 800 x 600 etc. ?
Yes, but like others have said, make it bigger or link to larger image
Q4. What would be the best time for the entry deadline? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
Midnight
Q5. What would be the best time to end voting? (12 noon, 12 midnight etc)
Midnight
Q6. How long should voting be allowed? (2 days, 3 days,...)
3 days
AnnieD posted Wed, 06 May 2009 at 2:59 PM
In favor of not posting to galleries until challenge is over.
“For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible.”
[Stuart Chase]
bikermouse posted Wed, 06 May 2009 at 8:42 PM
1) 3 weeks ( and a week for voting)
TheBryster posted Fri, 08 May 2009 at 7:05 AM Forum Moderator
Having gone through everyone's posts here I think I've managed to get a handle on a concensus of opinion of what folks want in the rules.
So, how long should a challenge last for? One month as the norm with an option for two months should circumstances, the time of year, or the challenge setter require it.
More than one entry? That's a big 'NO!' from most of you.
On the question of size, there was a mixed feelings about this one. So, I'm going with 'anything goes' from 800 x 600 to 1024 x 768, but with the proviso that no-one should be penalised when it comes to voting because their work was presented at 800 x 600 when it might have looked better at 1024 x 768 or whatever.
As for the deadlines, Midnight Rosity time wins hands down; although some of you seem confused as to how Rosity time equates to your local. The answer to that is very simple. Rosity time sits at the very top of every page. Check this time against that on your watch/clock/chrono-particle-indicator/temporal-distortion monitor!!!!
And coming to how long voting should last for? 3 days!
Now read this next bit carefully!!
The idea of disqualification for posting challenge entries in the galleries before the end of the challenge got a big thumbs-up! I'm going to extend this to after voting. In other words I'm not going to allow anyone to post a challenge entry in the galleries until voting has been completed. While it's arguable that the advantage one entry might get would be negligable, the fact that an advantage might be seen to be gained is undeniable. I cite the discussions and upsets during the March/April challenge when artists posted two entries as my case in point. In other words, when you guys get the bit between your teeth on any contentious point all hell breaks loose and I have to pick up the pieces!
Post WIPs by all means but keep them in the Main Challenge Thread. DON'T make a new thread about your work till AFTER the challenge is over.
Finally, I have to thank Quest for making a very valid point that has been over-looked and like many I thought was a given.
Challenge entries should be NEW work; NOT something you've posted previously in the galleries or entered in other challenges or competitions. If it's been simmering on the back-burner on your HDD for ten years then fine. But it must not have seen the light of day prior to a challenge.
I hope this clarifies things. I'll be making changes to the main rule page shortly.
Thank you all for keeping this thread sane.
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Rayraz posted Fri, 08 May 2009 at 7:22 AM
sounds nice :)
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Ang25 posted Fri, 08 May 2009 at 5:31 PM
I concur, I can live with these restrictions. Yep, very good.