Hi, some WIP images of this horse I am making for Poser, with different textures.

I am working now in the morphs and other textures.

More updates soon.
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Thank you for this thread!
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Thanks to you Kerya.

I have been working in the some head morphs like open close the eyes, move the eyes, tongue movement, open the mouth, move the ears, lips movement, and change the size of different head parts.

Some WIP example images:

open the mouth :(there are two different morphs to open and close the  mouth), here one of them:

A combination of moving the tongue out and curve the tongue extreme:

You can move the upper and lower lips separately, there is a morph that put the two lips in
"braying" position:

You can move the ears separately, in this image you can see the left ear move to back:

You can move the eyes and open and close them, here eyes completely closed:

You can change the size of different head parts like ears, eyes, thottle, the snouts, the front... taken to the extreme these morphs, you can get different  "cartoon" heads:

More updates soon.

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Nice! I like your morphs.
Do you think you could do something about the dent behind the eyes? I think it is a little bit too pronounced.

Yes, I'll make one to smooth it.

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Hi, I am working in many morphs. meanwhile , an image of a different texture with no morphs:

An  image of the WIP  draft horse morph with a longer mane:

 

and a  image of the pregnant morph:

More images and updates soon.

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The pregnant morph is unexpected - and a good idea!
Do you think you could make the hooves of the draft horse morph a bit bigger?
And add some hair around the ankles?

Hi Kerya, yes of course, I'll make them bigger, anyway, there is a separate FMB that make the hooves bigger. About the hair around the ankles, I am working in them, for the draft horse but for the "normal" horse too. the draft ones will be more abundant. around all the ankle, and the "normal" only in th back part of the ankle.

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:) :) :) :)
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Sounds wonderful!

Thanks Keyra.

An update, the foal, it is a morph from the horse, but due to its size , it will come as another figure.

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Could you make it a bit more skinny?
http://www.zilco.com.au/prod/gen/caf.shtm
Sorry - somehow I am always adding requests ... blushes

Hi Keyra, I will try it.

I am working in the graze pose. It can be animated.

More updates soon.

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Great pose!

Attached Link: Canter cycle flash animation.

thanks Kerya

I have almost fhifhed the morphs in the horse, the mane and the tail. (I'll put a list).

I have been testing some poses, static and animated. In the link you can see a flash animation of the horse( a canter cycle). It is a WIP pose.

More updates soon.

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Looks good, but a little bit stiff.
Do you think you can do something about the hooves, neck and head movement? And the movement of the muscles above the front legs? (Don't ask me for the correct English word for them, please).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOy5u4r57Gk

Yes, I'll see what I can do.

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I have made some changes in the canter animated pose, I'll return to it later, no I am going to begin with another poses and the "feet-legs" hair.

To view it just click in the link of my other reply. I have changes the old animation with the new.(perhaps you need to update your browser cache)

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Much, much, much better! :D

I am working in the "leg" hair.

Like the other horse hair, it will have a density morph,

so you can select, with a morph dial, the hair thickness.

In this test render, the density morph dial has a value of 0.5

It will have .like mane and tail, different color textures

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Great! Will it have movement morphs too?

Yes, they have movement morphs  too.

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Just an example of a mane morph. With a dial you can put the mane this way, and setting another mane morph dials with this one , you can get different variants similar to this render

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Great for a wild gallop! :)

This looks great so far! Lot of nice work on it. Definitely watching. :)

Yes Kerya, I am trying to het that effect.(I am working in some morphs to make different "vertical" manes.

Thanks Seliah.

I have remade (well, it is a new model) the tail, I think now it looks better but opinions are welcome.

A render with the new tail:

 

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Looks better and more realistic!

Do you think you can make a morph to make it look like this?

http://www.pferde-rassen.de/bilder/k/KinskyPferd.jpg
 

Yes, I can try it.

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Wow that looks great! Excellent work :thumbupboth:

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Thank you Mazak

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An update, a shocked flies pose ( I hope this is the way to say it in English) , in the render to the left side , but you can pose it to the right too.

These poses can be animated.

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Looks good - I can hear the swishing sound. :)

That looks most excellent.  Something the Mil Horse does NOT offer is the Fetlock hair draping around the entire area and actually supplying movement morphs too.  BRAVO!!  

Oh and you might want to make sure the mane and the forelocks are separate OBJ's as there is a great interest in Centaurs right now and it would be cool to be able to conform them or at least parent them to various figures like M4, V4, Aiko 4, Hiro 4... you get the picture. 

Check out this thread here:

http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?p=1883189#1883189

Might want to possibly consider making your horse work like this as well.  There are over 80 pages to that thread but once you get the picture of how it's done with the Mil Horse I'm thinking you might be able to offer this as well, in your own way of doing things. 

Just some thoughts.  You do excellent work and it's nice to see you working on such a lovely creature.  I don't buy many dresses but well made animals are always appreciated!!   

Quote - I am working in the "leg" hair.

Like the other horse hair, it will have a density morph,

so you can select, with a morph dial, the hair thickness.

In this test render, the density morph dial has a value of 0.5

It will have .like mane and tail, different color textures

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Hi RAM,   the mane, the tail and the leg hair are individual figures with their own obj each one. They are conforming figures for he horse body.

I had in mind  to  make an unicorn horn and  wings to transform the horse in pegasus..
About the centaurs I have to study it to know how to make it ... Thanks for the daz3d forum post, I will read it with great interest.

About the leg hair, if you, Kerya or anybody want a special movement, tell me and I will try to make it.(now  is the moment)

PS: I have post some wip poses example in my gallery here, in Renderosity.

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I looked at the picture in your gallery: very good poses!
Leg hair movement: the kneeling horse - shouldn't the hairs on the front legs fall down to the floor?

Yes. I can make a morph to do it.

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Kerya, is it more or less the thing you want ?

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Yes - more or less.  I think there should still be some fluffy hair on the back of the legs ...
http://ug4.kwick.de/ug/0239/6501/78122156_full,r,470x470.jpg

By the way: pictures of temperamental poses:
http://www.schule-aktiv.net/projekt/kaltblut/imgpferde/Fotogalerie/072.jpg
http://www.sherwoodshires.de/chryst_daphne_ext_trot_545x472.jpg

 

I see, thanks for the pictures.

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Attached Link: 360º preview

Hi, I have uploaded an adHorse  360º flash animation. Use the play button to control the animation, over= play, out=stop.

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I like your horse!
Honest - and the texture is good too. Are the veins displacement or modelled?

thanks Kerya.
The veins are part of the displacement map

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Remember to put something in the readme about rendering with displacement mapping on. Yes, there are people who are reading readmes ... ;)
Could you do something about the hairs around the hooves to make them a bit more irregular in length?

yes, thaks for the suggestion.

About the irregular hair, I'l make a morph to do it.

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Click here  to view a flash slide show of the textures that will be included in the adhorse pack.

The body, mane , tail and leg hair have separate texutes, so you can combine them as you want.

You will have for every body leg texture two options, sock texture or coronet texture.

Every texture has its own material set, so you can change it easily.

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Looking good!
I like the Palomino especially. :)

Do you think you could do something about the gray texture? Maybe it is the lighting in the render, but it just looks a bit like a black and white photo instead of a gray horse.
Maybe it's just because the colour of the mane and hairs is nearly the same grey. Most gray horses have darker hairs. But as you said you can combine different textures, that would be no problem. :)
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_218/119759057959zl3D.jpg

Beautiful texture sets

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Thanks mazak.

Yes Kerya, I see what you say, you can use the black hair  or another color,you can put each hair leg with a different color, this is usefull for the paint horses for example. 

In the next render you have the gray body with the black hair.

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Somehow that looks more realistic to me. Thanks for showing it. :)

Kerya, I am glad you look better now.

I am now making the last steps in the horse making.

I am preparing a web side with a litte "guide" tour, so everybody can see in an interactive way what  the adhorse pack will have.

I will prepare a "guide" in pdf format too.

If anybody has interest I make somethig about the horse ,now it is the moment, I will try to make it if I can. Any kinf of suggestion is welcome.

Adh3d.

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Looking good. I'm not too sure about the chest area (which is one of my biggest gripes with the MilHorse). Have you got a front-on render?

Hi toastle, yes, of course, in the image you can see the default (no morphs) render, and some mophs channels renders, each render is only one morph dial, you can combine them to get different point of shoulder shapes. Anyway, if you want this part  with other shape, you can tell me and I'll try to get it.

Note: In these renders you cannot see it, but the different between size and size all morphs dials is that, while size only affect to the point of shoulder area, the size all affect to all the front part of the horse.
The renders have been made with the horse zero pose.

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Thanks for the front pics of the chest area. The MilHorse always looks too blocky and angular around there in a render - even though it's fairly accurate it just doesn't look good. This one looks smoother I think.
You mentioned wings and unicorn horn - definitely interested in those. For a centaur I think the ones I have at the moment mostly rely on making the neck of the horse invisible and adding a transmap to blend the horse and human part.
Could I see a close up render of some of the textures?

Yes,  a close up render.

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It's obvious I was following this in the other forum as I see my post above.  So I guess when a thread is moved one looses their subscription??  Hmmm...

Horse looks really really good.  Love all the hair options.  Didn't see a white or a dappled white,  that would be nice. 

Also, very curious about the fetlock hair (down by hooves), has that got movement morphs?   I hope.  Just hanging there like that, so straight...

Here's a suggestion, if I may,  Perhaps add in some fine wavy morphs for that and the mane and tail.  So there is more variation. 

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Thanks for adding the word fetlocks to my English vocabulary.
Adh3d said he is adding morphs to them. :)

Hi, yes, the hair will have movements morphs.

About the fine wavy morphs , well, I see what I can do.

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Hope you can adh, it would add some versatility to the Mane, Tail and Fetlocks!!

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Ram, you mean a kind of curly hair,right?

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Well, wavy would be more like it.  Curly would insinuate something tighter.  Wavy can be sort of tight to but it's looser and hangs better.  I've never seen a curly mane or tail much less fetlocks.  Looked for some examples on the web but can't find any currently, so sorry....

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Richard: do you mean something like this?
equestrienne.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/andalusian-gray.jpg
(lovely photo, I think)
or (back to Frisians):
wineandwingsranch.com/germ.html
or
www.ghswest.com/foals_for_sale.html
or
www.legacycanadians.com/i//Tango_CDN_show_08.jpg
or
www.andalusians-for-you.com/images/long-mane1.jpg
or
i38.photobucket.com/albums/e106/TatooedLady/Queen/conditionedmane.jpg

Yuppers.  Hmmm, that middle link.  CUTE CUTE CUTE ponies!!  

I used to ride and care for horses when I was a lad and I miss them still.  Sigh.... seems you either have to live on a farm or have money to have them in your life!  

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The foals? Yes, they are lovelies. :biggrin:

Maybe you could offer your abilities as a hairdresser against some hours of riding?

I actually do an equestrian's hair.  She a love.  I'm sure if I wanted to ride all I would have to do is ask but with my HIV I kinda play it safe around animals. 

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Ouch - yes, I didn't think of that aspect. Sorry.
{hugs}

hey, I got my digitals, I'm pretty happy with that  but yea, I miss the real thing... lots of real things... oh well.  I'd rather be alive!!  LOL

HUGZ back

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Another wavy tail picture:
www.mikheyev.rgkp.com/images/foto/dsc_1579.jpg

Edited to add: I saw your new picture in the gallery:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1919778

Could you do something about the fetlocks?
On the right legs (front and back) the hairs at the back of the leg towards the knees are pointing outward instead of growing out of the leg downward.
I hope I described that understandably.

Thanks Kerya for the picture.

About the fetlocks, don't worry, there will be many morphs to put the hair in the direction you want, I am preparing a web to show there all the morphs of the horse, including hair morphs.The image is just an example, 

PS: you've perfectly described it.

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Hi, I have been working in more morphs, in the image you can see a "squalid horse",
 
I have made this shape with a combination of adhorse morphs dials. Anyway, this preset will be included.

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Poor old thing..... :sad:

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Poor old thing indeed - and very realistic!

Yes, It is. Here another morph preset, this time the draft one. As the scualid preset, is made using horse morph dials.

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Some pretty cool morphs! :thumbupboth:

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Looking good!!

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Some very nice work there adh3d. Any chance you could post a wireframe shot?

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thank you Mazak and RAM,

Yes Darkedge, here you have a wings3d screen capture of the final figure:

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Thanks for sharing...damn nice modeling job there.

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Thank you DarkEdge.

Here the new graze pose, it is a "direct pose", I mean it has no morphs, you can get it just  with the bend dial of the neck parts, just like any other pose, so it is easier than before  and I think it looks better now.

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Looks perfect actually!   I'm looking at the neck bend crease and it's flawless from this view point!!  NICE!!

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Looking good!

My message about the draft morph seems to have fallen into a black hole ...
Do you think you could make the belly a little less pointy?

The graze pose is perfect!

Thanks RAM and Kerya.

About the belly, do you mean this way?

If not, tell me where.... Anyway, remember this is not a full morph, it is the combination of "local" morphs that I have saved to the pose library, so it easier to change some details of the final result, it is just an example.

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Yes, that was the place I meant. Now it looks right. :biggrin:

That's great.

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Hi, here a render of the mule morph preset, it is made from the combination of adhorse morph dials, so you can make the changes you want changing each dial, like the, for example, draft morph preset. The render is made with the bay texture instead brown texture.

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Yup, looks like a mule to me! 

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Body and ears are looking good.

I don't know about the nose/muzzle area - maybe it is just a strange shadow from the lights, but there seems to be an indentation where there shouldn't be one. It's toward the end of the white area.
(I hope you don't get upset with me for constant nagging ...)

Hi, thanks RAM and Kerya (and everybody) for the comments and suggestions, they are always welcome.

Kerya, I think I have fixed something what you say...

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Coloring's more mule like.  I like both face shapes so why not include both??  Sometimes if you try for too much accuracy then you look at the breed and you see that NONE of them look EXACTLY alike!!  Kinda like humans!!

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Hi RAM, yes, I like the other texture more for the mule too.

About the face, well, it is a combination of morphs dials, to pass from first to the last one, it's  just moving the dial "smooth lips end".
 
Because it is not a morph, to make variations is easy, just playing with the different dials.

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ah, cool!!

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Niiiice! Thank you!

Just seeing this.

A very promising looking horse, I must say. Two thumbs up.

It may be just me, but those legs look a wee bit too small though.

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I just saw your Grazing picture ... niiiice pose.
Just one little thing: the mane should fall forward when the head is hanging down.

Hi Kerya, the horse is in pending process now.

 There is a morph called "side move" you can use to move the mane bottom backward or forward. If you want a more "extreme" movement ,must await future morphs I can add later,.

Alex.

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