Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: VSS Question

meltz opened this issue on May 27, 2009 · 50 posts


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 2:03 PM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/media/folder_9/file_405244.jpg

ok so how do i get to this in VSS. I am having a brain freez for some reason as i have been there before. What i want to do is change the skin color to sort of a native American color.

IsaoShi posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 2:48 PM

You're using an old VSS prop with an old Template_Skin shader. It's best to download the PR3 prop (with updated shaders) from bb's site. All the adjustment parameters are lined up down the left side of the shader, so it's much easier to use.

You could try adding some tint using the tint colour.

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 2:50 PM

i have the new PR3, that was an older post i was reading so got abit confused. Ill go see what i could do.

So do i go into the matireal room and click on skin templet? is that where it is?


IsaoShi posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 2:54 PM

Colour tint is mainly intended for pastel tints, I believe, but it might work for what you want.

(edit) - yes, Template Skin in the VSS Prop. Make your changes, then click the VSS Synchronise button.

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 3:02 PM

hmm doesent seem to be changing it at all


IsaoShi posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 3:18 PM

Is the synchronise button working? Perhaps try setting a bright red tint then synchronise and render, just to make sure it's doing something?

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 3:22 PM

something must be wrong, its not even working with the red tint =(


hborre posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 3:26 PM

Do you have a texture map loaded for your model prior to sync?  The reason I ask, I have played around with these settings and they do work.


IsaoShi posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 3:27 PM

> Quote - something must be wrong, its not even working with the red tint =(

Something is wrong. This is what I get with a red tint.

Is your Synchronise button bringing up the script window, with lots of messages about synchronising the various parts of the body?

(edit) - oops, I forgot the noodity flag

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 3:28 PM

yes i have the M4 high maps loded in. And no my sync button doesent bring anything up. Oh i am using poser 7 if that makes a difference. Im sure it does lol


IsaoShi posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 3:31 PM

No, it works fine in Poser 7... I used it before I switched to Poser Pro.
Something wrong with the install if the script is not running. What happens if you Ctrl-Click on the VSS Synchronise button? It should show the macro1.py script with the following 2 lines:-

import vssui

vssui.macros.call(1)
 

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


hborre posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 3:34 PM

Nope.  It works well in P7 and PoserPro.  A script window will open when you sync.  Afterward, open Material Room and check your skin texture.  If possible, provide an image post. 
BTW, are you just looking for changes in the preview window or are you rendering?


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 3:35 PM

when i control click on the sync button it disappears. 

ps. using a MAC


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 3:38 PM

i am rendering.

This is what i do. I go to file then run python. Then i go to Windows and click on python scrips. Then the Python Scrips window pops up and has the Sync button in it along with a Render button and designer button.   That is all right?


IsaoShi posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 3:39 PM

I'm on Mac too. I had problems with VSS originally, but it's been working fine for a long time now.
You have an install issue with the VSS folder and scripts. Where did you put them?

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 3:42 PM

they are in my Runtime/Python/VSS folder

I wounder if the last 5 renders i have done it was working fine or not lol.


IsaoShi posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 3:47 PM

If no script window came up when you pressed the Synchronise button - no it was not working fine!

Which Runtime? It has to be your main Poser Runtime.

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 3:49 PM

yes its in the main poser runtime.   When you say scrip wondow are you talking about the one that pops up after you click Windows/Python Scrips?   its alittle window that has Sync Render and Designer in it? That one?


IsaoShi posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 4:05 PM

No, that's the Python palette. The script window is a white window with the text output from the VSS Python script that runs (or should run!) when you click Synchronise (see screenshot). It will also pop up if a script you run finds an error, and it will tell you the error. The fact that you do not get this window at all tells me that the VSS Synchronise button is not running the script when you press it.

I'm preparing something for you to try.. back in a couple of minutes.

(edit) - oops I just spotted half a nipple!

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 4:13 PM

lol nipples are always welcome lol

ps. should i try and reinstall somehow? I have never seen that window pop up every for me =(


IsaoShi posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 4:18 PM

hehe!

(edit) you could try a re-install, first, yes.

Okay, let's try this...

 

First, go into your VSS folder and delete any and all files called macroxx.py and wacroxx.py, where xx represnts numbers 1 to 10. It doesn't matter if there are none there.

 

The attached file is a replacement for your Poser mainButtons.py script, which sits in your main Runtime / Poser / poserScripts folder. I suggest you rename your existing one, then rename this replacement file mainButtons.py

 

Having replaced the file, in Poser click File -> Reinitialize Python. Your Python palette should now have an extra button (button 8) marked VSS. Click it.

 

You should now see the VSS menu with those three buttons, Synchronise, Designer and Render.

 

Browse in Finder to the VSS folder. You should see the macro and wacro files that I talked about earlier. They should have been recreated.

 

See how this goes first, then we'll go from there.

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 4:20 PM

k let me go try that. be right back.

That new file is a text file? is that ok>?


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 4:32 PM

where is the Python palette? i think i might have done something wrong . is the new file you sent me a txt file? cause i think thats what it was


IsaoShi posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 4:40 PM

 The Python palette is the little 10-button menu you get when you click Window -> Python scripts.

The file that I attached is a text file, but it contains a Python script. It has to be renamed: mainButtons.py and replace the existing file by that name in your poserScripts folder. In other words, you have to remove the .txt file extension as well as change the first part of the name.

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 4:42 PM

for some reason its not letting me get rid of the .txt part.  it just keeps reappearing when i deleat it from the word


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 4:44 PM

when i rename the file you sent the .txt just keeps reapearing when i rename it =(


IsaoShi posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 4:45 PM

You should get this... 

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 4:49 PM

not working for me, im in finder when doing this, does that matter?


IsaoShi posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 4:54 PM

In Finder, that's right. How about if you Get info on the file (above), can you change the name in that window?

If not, you could just cut and paste the text from the new file into your original one. This is just to get the definition of button 8 into your Python palette.

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 4:56 PM

ok that worked =)


IsaoShi posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 4:57 PM

Just a thought - in your Finder Preferences, you may need to tick "Show all file extensions". I always do.

(edit) ah, good, you did it! Next step....

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 4:59 PM

ok all the marcro and warco files are back


IsaoShi posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 5:01 PM

Before we troubleshoot further, does the Synchronise button work now?

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 5:02 PM

not when i just clicked on it now nope


IsaoShi posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 5:11 PM

The synchronise button should be running a VSS script called macro1.py, in the VSS folder.

Instead of running that from the Python palette button, try running it directly from the File -> Run Python Script menu, and see if anything happens.

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 5:13 PM

IT WORKED!!!! the white window came up


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 5:18 PM

So for now on when i load new textures in, do i just go right there to sync it?


IsaoShi posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 5:19 PM

Good. Did it show lots of synchronise messages, like I showed above? If so, try a render.

The problem is that VSS is not determining the path of your VSS folder correctly, so it doesn't know where to find the script it has to run. I'm not sure how to get round this, it's very difficult to troubleshoot Python scripts remotely!

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


IsaoShi posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 5:21 PM

Quote - So for now on when i load new textures in, do i just go right there to sync it?

Yes, after loading new textures onto your figure, run that script. Also run it after changing anything in the PR3 skin template, such as adding tints we discussed earlier.

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 5:22 PM

Yeah i just did a render, looked awsome. But for some reason i think it left out the makeup and nail paint of my textures.

you are such a big help, thanks so so much


IsaoShi posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 5:25 PM

Would you like to send me a copy of your VSS files called vssMainButtons.py and vssui.py? I seem to remember I changed mine to get it working, but I don't remember the changes exactly. I can compare them and send you a revision, if it would help. It will have to be tomorrow, though, I must go to bed now!

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 5:27 PM

sure ill send them to you, whats your email? also any reason that you might know why the makeup and nail color went away when i sync?


IsaoShi posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 5:28 PM

Re: makeup and nail paint. The VSS templates generally replace the whole shaders, only keeping any texture maps that are used. It could be that some things are set using colours in the shader, in which case VSS will replace them. You'll need to learn to adjust the VSS Templates the way you want them to work... good luck!

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


IsaoShi posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 5:29 PM

I'll IM you my email address.

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


meltz posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 5:30 PM

cool thanks again you rock


incantrix posted Thu, 28 May 2009 at 7:36 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2772463

Meltz in relation to the nail and make up. look here. bagginsbill is going through a few things in relation to it.



bagginsbill posted Thu, 28 May 2009 at 9:35 AM

Izi,

I located our discussion of the python buttons problem.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2737823&page=25

You posted your workaround involving hacking the leading colon (or something like that).

This issue was only with Poser 7 on a MAC before service release 3 (SR3).

On the next page, jdredline reported that he'd just upgraded to SR3 on his MAC. Prior to doing so his buttons didn't work. After installing SR3, they did work.

So - meltz - are you running an older buggy version of Poser 7?


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IsaoShi posted Thu, 28 May 2009 at 10:06 AM

Ah, thanks bb! I've been asleep a few times since then, and I just couldn't remember what I had done.

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


meltz posted Thu, 28 May 2009 at 10:53 AM

Quote - Izi,

I located our discussion of the python buttons problem.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2737823&page=25

You posted your workaround involving hacking the leading colon (or something like that).

This issue was only with Poser 7 on a MAC before service release 3 (SR3).

On the next page, jdredline reported that he'd just upgraded to SR3 on his MAC. Prior to doing so his buttons didn't work. After installing SR3, they did work.

So - meltz - are you running an older buggy version of Poser 7?

I beleave i am. My sister in law gave me poser 7 after my pc crashed and i lost everything. So most likely it is an older buggy version =(


IsaoShi posted Thu, 28 May 2009 at 1:41 PM

meltz: if you have the Poser 7 licence key, you should definitely download and install Poser 7 SR3 from the Smith Micro website.

I'm looking at your VSS scripts now. We may be able to get it working (from the Python palette) even if you can't install SR3.

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)