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Subject: Smart Prop Dialog Box Missing

Disciple3d opened this issue on Jun 24, 2009 · 17 posts


Disciple3d posted Wed, 24 June 2009 at 8:13 AM

Ok, so I know how to make a smart prop first off.

Example Steps:
Parent the obj to the hand or desired part of a figure, click the + symbol in the library you wish to save the prop in.

But now on my windows Vista Premium machine I never ever get that dialog box that asks me if I want to make it a smart prop. Has anyone else run into this and is their a solution?

I've tried in Poser 7 & Poser Pro

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midnight_stories posted Wed, 24 June 2009 at 8:23 AM

Hmmm It could be a different version of python make sure you have SR3 installed and try running poser as admin. Hell I don't know!!!!


hborre posted Wed, 24 June 2009 at 8:23 AM Online Now!

There has been a tremendous amount of dissatisfaction about how Vista handles any version of Poser installed into it's Program Files folder.  If Poser resides in mentioned location, Vista will not allow easy write-to unless UAC is inactivated.  This might be your issue, but I'm just speculating.  The recommended fix is either turn off UAC completely (thefixer has posted instructions how to accomplish this.  I don't use Vista, can't help there) or relocate Poser into it's own folder on your main HD.  Again, I am only speculating; perhaps some one else could elaborate further towards a solution.


Disciple3d posted Wed, 24 June 2009 at 8:26 AM

Ok, first off, Great AVATAR! I mean I'm having some serious Avatar envy over here. Yeah, i've run into major issues with that myself. Any new product I make i've had to setup external runtimes to work on them. It's a major pain in the....well...you know

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Realmling posted Wed, 24 June 2009 at 9:10 AM

Running Vista Business at home, and have P6 installed to Program Files(x86) folder, and my P5 installed on its own on the harddrive. Haven't had any issues with either of them outside of ones I cause myself (and those are generally more than enough).

Wondering if Poser is loosing it's "brain" with the fact that you've parented the prop? Or does it still behave like a smart prop after it's been loaded to a fresh scene?

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MistyLaraCarrara posted Wed, 24 June 2009 at 9:10 AM

I don't see the smartprop dialog either. 

My props saved to the library don't remember their parenting.  I tried editing the prop file directly, typing over UNIVERSE with bodypart name. Didn't work.



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Disciple3d posted Wed, 24 June 2009 at 9:20 AM

mine is not smart when I reload it. Loads to the same position but not parented to anything.

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dadt posted Wed, 24 June 2009 at 9:53 AM

The smart prop dialogue only appers if you DO NOT use "select sub-set" when saving. I am using Poser Pro on Vista 64 bit with no problems at all.


Disciple3d posted Wed, 24 June 2009 at 10:07 AM

Holy Crap dadt. That did it. Of al the counter intuitive usability. Thanks a lot e frontier!

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lesbentley posted Wed, 24 June 2009 at 10:19 AM

If you use "Select Subset" you can still turn the prop into a smart prop, but you have to edit the pp2. You need to have saved the prop with "Use file compression" turned off in your General Preferences, then just open the file in a text editor and replace any lines reading "parent UNIVERSE" with "smartparent NameOfParent" where "NameOfParent" is the internal name of the actor the prop is meant to be parented to.


MistyLaraCarrara posted Wed, 24 June 2009 at 1:23 PM

Ohhh. is that why it wasn't working? 
I typed over "UNIVERSE", but I didn't know I had to type in "smartparent"

do i need the ": 1" ?  (parenting to hip)

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DarksealStudios posted Wed, 24 June 2009 at 5:38 PM

I have allowed poser/runtime full permissions in "properties" so no UAC popups with Vista, I do the same thing (add to library) .... I get the .png file but no .pp2 file. When i load the prop in the scene it is still a smart prop. Still no pp2. I have all the general settings set correctly.

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DarksealStudios posted Wed, 24 June 2009 at 6:12 PM

OK!!! no matter what...... dont do what windows wants!!

Turned off the UAC..... I had to redo my library saves (no biggie, only 2) but this time it made the pp2 file. Thanks guys!


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lesbentley posted Thu, 25 June 2009 at 12:06 PM

Quote - do i need the ": 1" ?

No, you don't need the ":#" in a smart prop. Poser will apply the colon and correct number when you load the prop, depending on the number used in the figure that is selected as the active figure at the time the prop is loaded, this happens whether the prop uses a ":#" or not.


MistyLaraCarrara posted Thu, 25 June 2009 at 3:22 PM

you know what would be totally awesome --- parenting a light to a camera.

this way when spinning the main camera around to check the figure at all angles,
the light will shine right where it's needed.



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dadt posted Thu, 25 June 2009 at 4:10 PM

No problem, for a spot or point light just parent it to the camera. You can't parent an infinite light.
  You can lock the light if you wish so that you don't accidentally move it.


lesbentley posted Tue, 30 June 2009 at 5:35 PM

Quote - You can't parent an infinite light.

Whilst it is true that you can't parent an infinite light, you can convert an infinite light to a spotlight (from its Properties), parent it, then convert it back to an infinite light. The parenting will persist after the light is converted back to infinite.