vampchild opened this issue on Jun 26, 2009 · 35 posts
vampchild posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 9:24 AM
Folks I need a little help. I want to make smaller boobs
on my characters mainly V4 and V3. I can make them
smaller but they seem not real enough using the dials
for each character. I think small breast women have always
been hot. Just don't like the balloons most characters
come with. Thanks for any help!
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lesbentley posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 9:43 AM
I thoroughly concur, tiny tits are tops!
hborre posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 9:45 AM
Posematic has put out a series of breast morphs for just about all the models available. In addition, most character morph packs do include breast poses for just about any situation (i.e., lying down, leaning to the one side, etc.)
ockham posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 9:48 AM
Swimming against the tide, boys, swimming against the tide.
Using Poser to make small breasts is like buying a stretch limo
for its parallel parking abilities.
markschum posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 10:31 AM
Get the Ultimate breast morphs in freestuff, apply to one character and every other breast will look small :)
You may be able to go with negative values on the size morphs .
Jules53757 posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 10:47 AM
Try negative values for BreastsSize etc, a little bit here and there.
Just an example I used for one of my chars:
Breastssize: -0.36
BreastsLarge: -0.2
BreastsCleavage: 0.79
CleavageWidth: -0,276
BreastsPerk: 0.28
AureolaOut: 1.15
AureolaPerk: 0.31
Nipples: 1
NipplesHeight: 0.2
NipplesDepth: 0.56
NipplesBig: 0.44
Try it, I love the result ;)
Ulli
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vampchild posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 11:14 AM
Thanks for the info. I'll try Jules setup and hope
it what I need. I'm going to search every 3D site
and if I find that special morph, I'll try to post the
link. I know theres a lot of folks out there who love
small breasts as I do. This is going to be my new
project.
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skuts posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 1:16 PM
Anything more than a mouthful is wasted. I've found that smaller breasts are much more sensitive than big bazongas.
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grichter posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 2:01 PM
Quote - Anything more than a mouthful is wasted. I've found that smaller breasts are much more sensitive than big bazongas.
Uh...I gave V4 some huge breasts and looked at the dial settings and wrote down all the numbers. Then I gave her some small breasts, the size that would have qualified her as president of the itty-bitty-titty-comittee. I wrote those dial numbers down too.
Gee, when I compare the two sets of numbers, the sensitivity of the dials in Poser where the same for big bazongas vs itty bitty ones. They never changed.
Somebody want to tell me what I am doing wrong. :b_confused:
Gary
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AnAardvark posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 2:04 PM
One of the problems when dialing down breast size is that the various breast size dials don't always play nice with each other at negative values. In particular, the dial for silicone breasts (don't remember the actual name) does nasty things at negative values. Also, if you are using a FBM (especially an elite one) to make a character overall slender, sometimes it reacts badly with negative values of "breasts large".
pjz99 posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 2:06 PM
One of my major dislikes about V4 is that the default breasts are a solid D, so getting them to look normal (not even small, just normal) is more work than it ought to be. Although I guess like Ockham says, it's a waste of time to point this out. I guess when DAZ gets around to doing a "Stephanie Petite" for the Gen 4 mesh it will be another morph of the base V4 rig again, which means you'll still be getting base models designed around a D cup, so texture distortion will pretty much be unavoidable when working with normal sized breasts.
Klebnor posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 3:10 PM
After much practice, my sage advice:
Start with FBM, dial voluptuous down to between -4 and -6. This affects the full body, but results in much more realism. This is critical - starting any other way will yield unrealistic results. If you don't like the overall shape, change glutes, thighs, arms, whatever - separately.
Now adjust breasts, dial 'size' and 'large' down until you like the overall size.
Fix the distortions (they will be there) as best you can with other adjustments - among the helpful are diameter, cleavage, straight out, perk and ariole out. Natural can also be helpful - use it in the negative direction to fix the bottom shape.
This is the only way I have found to achieve small realism.
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lesbentley posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 3:34 PM
To attach the zip, I had to add a ".TXT" file extension. Drop the ".TXT" part when you save it to disk, so it becomes "SmallerBreastsV4.zip". Extract the zip to your Poser folder. The files should end up in:
Runtime/libraries/Pose/DAZ's Victoria 4/Morph Injections/3rd Party
And if you find a better free small breast morph, please let me know.
lesbentley posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 3:38 PM
P.S. the morph is a FBM, you will find a dial to adjust it in the Body.
Jules53757 posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 5:02 PM
Just one little try, based on the one of Les but the boobies more to the inside. Sorry, its quick and dirty one so you have load the morph target in the old fashioned way via the properties Tab to the chest.
Ulli
"Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!"
Jules53757 posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 5:41 PM
Ulli
"Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!"
Jules53757 posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 5:43 PM
Ulli
"Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!"
Jules53757 posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 5:47 PM
Ulli
"Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!"
lesbentley posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 6:37 PM
Yes, on my morphs the breasts needed to come together more, and I made a mess of the sternum and the bottom of the rib cage. Looks like you did a great job on Lulu's breasts.
Sa_raneth posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 7:20 PM
somebo9dy mind tellin me how to save this as a zip file cause all i can get it to save as is a txt file
thanks
Nance posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 9:07 PM
In the Save As dialog box, change the filename by deleting the '.txt' portion.
... or just change the filename extension after you've saved it.
Sa_raneth posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 9:17 PM
thanks
operaguy posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 10:11 PM
operaguy posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 10:12 PM
operaguy posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 10:13 PM
operaguy posted Fri, 26 June 2009 at 10:33 PM
i forgot to check the nudity box and now i can't edit. Sorry.
sirenia posted Sat, 27 June 2009 at 5:24 AM
I like 'em small too :-)
My experience so far is only with Aiko3. With this figure it 's possible to dial them even 'almost' completely away without messing the geometry up too much. And i 'm also using magnets a lot to change other bodyparts as well.
Maybe this is gonna be a bit overkill on the topic here, but honestly i can 't understand why a lot of women in real life want to enlarge their breasts via a boob job.
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pjz99 posted Sat, 27 June 2009 at 5:37 AM
For the same reasons people in the gallery here start with a D (default V4) and dial up to EEE.
LaurieA posted Sat, 27 June 2009 at 9:35 AM
Quote - I thoroughly concur, tiny tits are tops!
LOL...that's good to know, since most women are NOT built like Vicky...LOL.
Laurie
momodot posted Sat, 27 June 2009 at 9:44 AM
I have used combinations of male and child morphs to get smaller breasts... these exist for both V4 and V3. Perhaps using a flat chest like that and morphing the breasts back out with magnets or morphs would work. Long ago IssacNewton I think made a "Ando" morph for Posette that was a "neutral base" to morph new waist and breasts out from again.
Jules, that Lulu is very nice. Realistic small breasts.
Dave-So posted Sat, 27 June 2009 at 3:45 PM
one day I saw this really fabulous looking woman...she had a very curvacious body, fine shaped legs, real nice booty...then her boobs were pretty flat. It didn't look right at all. sorry to you real small breasted women, I've been looking at v2 and up for too long, plus all the fakers around town. :)
i feel the same way about real large breasts too. Too big doesn't look right.either...and after age sets in, and gravity takes over, and the major sag happens...they are darn scary with nipples down past the belly button ... yikes ... I can't take it anymore
anyway...check out this site for pictures of all different sizes of breasts...real ones. this would be a good reference for morphing and maybe for a developer to use in the next female model.
http://www.007b.com/breast_gallery.php
and... pictures and comparisons of the different cup sizes
http://www.afraidtoask.com/?page_id=119
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fivecat posted Sat, 27 June 2009 at 4:14 PM
I have a freebie flatten chest morph for V4. It injects as completely flat, but you can adjust the dial to use it in varying strengths in combination with other breast morphs to get a decent looking small breast.
Go to my site http://www.byfivecat.com/ and go to 3d downloads.
momodot posted Sat, 27 June 2009 at 4:29 PM
Thank you, fivecat :)
EClark1894 posted Mon, 29 June 2009 at 2:59 AM
Quote - > Quote - I thoroughly concur, tiny tits are tops!
LOL...that's good to know, since most women are NOT built like Vicky...LOL.
Laurie
They aren't?!!!
Then they can't be 'real' women, can they? And I don't date boys! (Not that there's anything wrong with that... if you're a girl!) 8^D j/k
I should clarify something. I was just joking, but the thing is, almost every woman in my family has breasts that are as big as or bigger than V4's!
Ironically, the woman I'm most attracted to in my life is much smaller. But don't get me wrong. There's nothing wrong with a nice pair of D cups.
vampchild posted Mon, 29 June 2009 at 9:11 AM
Thank you Dave-so for the sites. There were good refence
pics there, Also thanks Fivecat for the Morph.
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