And it's kind of ticking me off. I understand it to a certain degree and hey, I've even contributed to it more than just a little. Will Dupre would be the first to point that out to me, so yes, I acknowledge it.
But lately...

They're reeeeeeally starting to push my buttons.

Posted my freebie poses for Alyson to the DAZ Freepository and got 25 comments. All negative comments about Alyson's face. Not even one "Hey thanks for the freebie poses."

I almost feel unwelcome if I post anything specifically about Poser in the Commons. Think I'm going to hang out here for a while.

If they're negative comments about Alyson's face, how does that translate into negativity towards you? Unless you had some part in the development of that figure, I don't see what the problem is. Likewise, if people say bad things about Poser, what reason do you have to take it personally?

But that's just my EUR .014 :-)

i think what he is sayin his thread was about free poses he made not about how bad the figure was and not one person said thanks for the poses just started a irrelevant topic about the figures face. its quite rude not to thank someone for a freebie but sadly it happens all the time no matter where you go.

"I didn't lose my mind, it was mine to give away"

please excuse bad typing and grammar. am Texting on my cell lol

"I didn't lose my mind, it was mine to give away"

The new figures are hideous, but that isn't the fault of people who make morphs for them. You're great for providing free content to people. Thanks!

Well, DAZ is the home of an app which is a direct competitor to Poser; You need to keep that in mind.
While DAZ themselves are rather cool about it, their cultists aren't; So it's pointless to start any constructive thread about Poser (or Poser content) over there, it will get scuttled sooner or later. It's human nature.

Quote - i think what he is sayin his thread was about free poses he made not about how bad the figure was and not one person said thanks for the poses just started a irrelevant topic about the figures face. its quite rude not to thank someone for a freebie but sadly it happens all the time no matter where you go.

Exactly. I'm actually rather used to not getting thanked in the Freepository. I guess most people feel that they're only poses, no need to thank anyone. I don't download a lot of stuff from there, but I usually thank people when I do.

But this time... Why hijack my thread? There's plenty of hate for Alyson AND Poser already in the Commons.

I think the poses are great!

Sometimes I think that's why CP closed its forums. There were so many posts that were just outright hostile. People had concerns and frustrations but simply couldn't behave themselves. There were some very informative and helpful threads but I think they were few.

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tis why they actually did me a favour banning me :)
since then life has been so more peaceful ..........

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Welcome EClark.
Peps is funny where-ever you go.

Nice one Estherau.

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I was there browsing the commons forum last nigth, in one thread people were actually spilling their guts out about how bad Poser 8 is.

That behavoiur can be excused (lack of knowledge, stupidity etc) but in this case it all was based on a render someone posted showing very bad deformation on the Poser females neck, a deformation caused by using one of the canned poses from the library.

The mob (in lack of a better word) ruled out Poser 8 based on one bad picture, rendered by someone who had actually found a bad pose that messed up the character.

I felt uncomfortable and left the building.

Regards / Jonny

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Hello,
yes, the energizing competition between DAZ programs (DS + Carrara) versus Poser unfortunately has moved to a lot of flame war. It's almost like the MS Windows vs. Linux discussions a few years ago.
For constructive topics, my learning was to best discuss Poser topics here at Rendo (since CP has closed) and Carrara topics at DAZ (I don't use DS).

It is unfortunate, because with some more cooperation, most of the content could be used in both programs much more easily.

Btw., the DAZ forums are not mentioned in the Poser 8 manual (Page 8, Third Party forums), despite most rendered content I believe is bought there.

Best regards,
Michael

It can be hurtful, these hatreds and jaundiced views, try stepping back a little and view it all in context of life in general and it all becomes quite funny really. Sometimes absolutely hilarious. Perhaps it is strange humor, but really people getting so angry at you for posting something about a computer app, take it with a grain of salt and laugh, it feels better. :biggrin:

Life is hard, but what a ride.

Quote - Perhaps it is strange humor, but really people getting so angry at you for posting something about a computer app, take it with a grain of salt and laugh, it feels better. :biggrin:

No one got angry at EClark1894 for posting anything. Where did you get that idea?

Coldrake

Quote - > Quote - Perhaps it is strange humor, but really people getting so angry at you for posting something about a computer app, take it with a grain of salt and laugh, it feels better. :biggrin:

No one got angry at EClark1894 for posting anything. Where did you get that idea?

Coldrake

Well that's my interpretation wrong or right. But I wouldnt presume to speak for everyone.:biggrin:

Life is hard, but what a ride.

It seems to me that certain people over there have forgotten the reason why Daz3d came into existence in the first place.

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Quote - > Quote - > Quote - Perhaps it is strange humor, but really people getting so angry at you for posting something about a computer app, take it with a grain of salt and laugh, it feels better. :biggrin:

No one got angry at EClark1894 for posting anything. Where did you get that idea?

Coldrake

Well that's my interpretation wrong or right. But I wouldnt presume to speak for everyone.:biggrin:

Ah, just fanning the flames a little. Gotcha.

Coldrake

Quote - It seems to me that certain people over there have forgotten the reason why Daz3d came into existence in the first place.

What does that have to do with anything?

Coldrake

Its almost like watching popeye and brutus, Sunday morning comics.

Life is hard, but what a ride.

Actually I'm not saying anything else, i'd rather not get into arguments, I apologise for fanning any flames & i'm out of this thread.

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Dont feel bad, i love free stuff i just dont type often in forums :) but thanks for the poses.

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - > Quote - Perhaps it is strange humor, but really people getting so angry at you for posting something about a computer app, take it with a grain of salt and laugh, it feels better. :biggrin:

No one got angry at EClark1894 for posting anything. Where did you get that idea?

Coldrake

Well that's my interpretation wrong or right. But I wouldnt presume to speak for everyone.:biggrin:

Ah, just fanning the flames a little. Gotcha.

Coldrake

Yes fun eh? Fanning the flames can be really fun but dont let the mods catch you.:lol:

Life is hard, but what a ride.

Quote - Actually I'm not saying anything else, i'd rather not get into arguments, I apologise for fanning any flames & i'm out of this thread.

Me too Lurk mode :)

Life is hard, but what a ride.

yeah...I think we'd all rather a site war didn't start. I can understand the frustration, and it's fine to vent, but, rather than bashing DAZ, can we just try to make folks feel welcome here?

EClark, have you posted your stuff in the Freebie forum here? I wouldn't mind taking a peek :)

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One should be Aware that the great majority of users at the DAZ
forums have never used poser or been part of the "Old school
poser community.
their base program is FREE and alot of them get their content for $2
from the "Platinum Club" or with " gallery vouchers".
and many clearly suffer from Compulsive digital Hoarding.
Frankly the social order over there can be a little Cliqueish
and there reverence For DAZ inc., V-Chick and M4 is one of the most
unquestioned forms of "faith" I have ever witnessed.
so dont expect much gratitude for a freebie offering from an
"infidel" that requires a female
figure that is only availabe when you buy poser8 .

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Wow, I could have sworn that my last post was at LEAST a hint to not bash on people.

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Quote - Wow, I could have sworn that my last post was at LEAST a hint to not bash on people.

You know, I think you're right. LOL

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Quote - Wow, I could have sworn that my last post was at LEAST a hint to not bash on people.

Some folks don't take hints too well that way sensible talk must be backed up with superior fire power! LOL!!!!!!!

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Quote - Wow, I could have sworn that my last post was at LEAST a hint to not bash on people.

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Quote - Hi
One should be Aware that the great majority of users at the DAZ
forums have never used poser or been part of the "Old school
poser community.
their base program is FREE and alot of them get their content for $2
from the "Platinum Club" or with " gallery vouchers".
and many clearly suffer from Compulsive digital Hoarding.
Frankly the social order over there can be a little Cliqueish
and there reverence For DAZ inc., V-Chick and M4 is one of the most
unquestioned forms of "faith" I have ever witnessed.
so dont expect much gratitude for a freebie offering from an
"infidel" that requires a female
figure that is only availabe when you buy poser8 .

Ha! Agreed!
If I were impolite I might have to say:

Let them take their renders and Daz studio blab and post them on the CG Society forums and see how welcome they would feel.

But of course I'd never be so impolite as say such a thing!

Peace and love.

sigh

There are more cliques at DAZ than here. That is the number one reason I hang around HERE more than there The present economic climate of competiveness just fans embers and sparks into open flame, IMO. Loads of good people there as here. You just have to be more careful not to say anything to overly upset the locals there.

I don't have Poser 8, but I thought the bashing over there was overblown by my standards. Freebies do NOT have to be free, so they should always be appreciated.

@EClark--Don't have it, and don't need it, but thank you for making it. I do meant that.

I think a LOT of people just need to chill out and find some stuff to feel happy about, IMO.

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Thanks Joel. I'm trying to take a couple of days off from posting on the DAZ forums. It's hard, but I've basically just gone into lurk mode.

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> Quote - yeah...I think we'd all rather a site war didn't start. I can understand the frustration, and it's fine to vent, but, rather than bashing DAZ, can we just try to make folks feel welcome here? > > EClark, have you posted your stuff in the Freebie forum here? I wouldn't mind taking a peek :)

No, I"ve only ever posted links in the DAZ forum or CP. I also have a download page at my website where people can find the links to all my pose sets.

Thanks, EClark! Off to peek now :) I'm sure that this is something folks would appreciate, if you should change your mind about posting a link in the freestuff forum, too ;)

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Quote - I was there browsing the commons forum last nigth, in one thread people were actually spilling their guts out about how bad Poser 8 is.

That behavoiur can be excused (lack of knowledge, stupidity etc) but in this case it all was based on a render someone posted showing very bad deformation on the Poser females neck, a deformation caused by using one of the canned poses from the library.

The mob (in lack of a better word) ruled out Poser 8 based on one bad picture, rendered by someone who had actually found a bad pose that messed up the character.

I felt uncomfortable and left the building.

Regards / Jonny

Hands up - I'm guilty! I was the someone who posted the picture that got people laughing that made people mad that lived in the forum that DAZ built. This was not posted in the Freepository thread that EClark started - and EClark, I'm sorry your work wasn't appreciated - free content is a generous gesture that should never be dissed in any way.

To be fair to myself, I didn't deliberately pick that particular pose to make Alyson look bad. I picked it at random and was shocked by how badly the figure deformed. I actually think that Alyson is a better figure than Ryan, who I can't help feeling looks just weird.

Ahem, anyway... I've was using Poser for quite a while before I even aware of DAZ and I have no interest in D|S. I have to say though, that apart from a few bad apples, the folks on the DAZ forums have been very helpful, generous, and kind to me. I've learnt a lot there and I've found that by and large people are far friendlier over there than at a number of other communities.

I don't think i've come across a single forum that doesn't have the occasional software war. I certainly didn't mean to contribute to one. I'm a Poser-person and will remain so. I don't understand why people have to play those silly "my software's better than yours" games. So childish.

Use the software you like, contribute to whichever forums you wish, live and let live.

I have not had a chance to download your poses, was gone from the house most of the day Saturday, and most of yesterday wife had the whip out making me clean :ohmy: Since we had no kid yesterday she decided to make me work for once so no poser. Plus we had some bad storms come thru last night so I was not on the PC but watching preseason football.

I will take a look but you always make great stuff.

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Hi Ajsavill!

I actually liked your picture, it was funny.

But it was the reaction from a lot of people that disturbed me, guess its been a while since i got in touch with such behaviour in a forum :-)

Regards / Jonny

I appreciate that you guys like my poses, really. And yes, it's also nice to be thanked for providing them. I'm actually used to not being thanked for posting my poses in the Freepository. Not a problem really. What set me off this time was that my thread was hi-jacked. so that they could diss the Alyson figure the poses were made for.

There were 25 postings made about how ugly Alyson is. Not one posting was to thank me for the poses, to tell me they sucked, or were even unneccessary. Not one posting even peripherally mentioned the poses at all. I still don't know whether they came in to download the poses or diss Alyson.

That wasn't just rude, it was insulting.

My poses will still be available on my website, no matter what. I'm just reconsidering making them available through the Freepository Forum anymore..

Hijacking can be damned rude when it's completely thoughtless. If it's good natured yammering, it's annoying but sometimes funny. What went on THERE was a mess! Yeesh. People can make art with anything if the talent is there. Folks have to be more respectful of other folks media or programs. I AM NOT a big fan of DS, but have seen inspiring work come from it, and crap from Poser. AND Vice versas! :laugh:

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Ahh, clique behavior.

FWIW, a few things have sprung to mind here:

* while I give massive props to anyone who does the freebie route (hey, it is work), you may want to keep in mind that maybe there are some constructive bits to be found in the criticism (dunno, haven't seen the thread, don't know where it is, too lazy to go look, etc).

*(a) Yes, even for free, one should expect to put up with critiques. I actually love getting them, since it points out stuff that I miss - otherwise I think everything is fine while I continue re-making the same mistakes over and over again... that's no way to grow.

* I sincerely doubt that DAZ is ringleading some evil conspiracy to bad-mouth the P8 figures (from what I've seen, and only IMHO, those particular figures do a good enough job of that w/o any help).

Hey - it's good to see someone at least trying to put proverbial lipstick on the proverbial pig, yanno? Let me pick on a not-so-controversial example here... Terai Yuki is among the coolest (and bendiest) mesh figures I have ever had the enjoyment of putting to use. OTOH, her face is a raging beast to modify - the few who have tried and didn't botch the job deserves major props in my opinion. Let's pick on another example: Dina... Holy crap was that chick fugly. OTOH, someone (Dacourt?) managed to make a damned fine job of making her (esp. the face) less painful to look at with the DinaV (?) package.

* Finally, an odd thought. Let me use a non-Poser example: If I were to build a neat script to help automate the conversion of your retail-bought OSX Leopard DVD into something you can build a Hackintosh off of, the last place I would want to say anything about it is in the Macintosh/Apple forums here. While yes it's 100% legal to do such a thing, it would tend to rub the denizens there the wrong way (I already found that out just by announcing that I managed to build one the hard way) - therefore, I take the lesson and act accordingly. I'm thinking the same dynamic is at work in the DAZ fora. If it involves a DAZ competitor, odds are good that the denizens there won't/don't have Poser, and therefore won't/don't have a clue as to what to do with it, and thus are more likely to give negative or indifferent feedback, which means...

* You'd have better luck posting the freebies here. Also, know that if you'd built something for a freebie stand-alone figure, or something that didn't require the purchase of Poser (or any moderately costly program), you would've likely gained a better reception there.

You obviously misunderstand or have confused what I have stated. I'm not opposed to criticism of any poses I supply. There WERE none. All the criticism was of the ALYSON figure's LOOKS, not her posing abilities.

And yes, I have posted poses for the G2 figures in the Freepository before. I was thanked and those that use the figures or just wanted the poses downloaded them. No one criticised the G2 figures simply because they belonged to Poser.

Quote - All the criticism was of the ALYSON figure's LOOKS, not her posing abilities.

Fair enough (like I said before, I didn't look at the thread. Got a link to it?)

Quote - It seems to me that certain people over there have forgotten the reason why Daz3d came into existence in the first place.

Amen!

Oh and.. are the poses anywhere else? I refuse to set foot in the Daz forums after a certain incident some time back...

They have medication for this.

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Quote - Oh and.. are the poses anywhere else? I refuse to set foot in the Daz forums after a certain incident some time back...

Look higher up in this thread. About the tenth post down. Check the down load page.

Quote - > Quote - All the criticism was of the ALYSON figure's LOOKS, not her posing abilities.

Fair enough (like I said before, I didn't look at the thread. Got a link to it?)

It's still on the front page of the Freepository. They're STILL not talking about the poses.

Sorry about this EClark - I'm gonna try out your poses and hopefully get that thread back on track if I can. Feeling very guilty that I contributed to any discord. I appreciate your work and your contributions to the DAZ forums. Please don't stay away because some have jumped right back on their favorite bandwagons.

Some of the nice people at least said thanks!

Why did daz3d come into existence in the first place? Wasn't it to sell stuff?

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DAZ3d is or at least was a subsidiary of Zygote, which supplied Poser with it's first figures all the way up to Poser 4. DAZ3d split from Zygote and started an online store that made and brokered 3D content primarily for the Poser community.

About 4-5 years ago, Poser's continued existence was in doubt (I forget exactly why, but I think it had something to do with Poser being sold yet again to e-Frontier). DAZ3D decided to hedge it's bets and began to create it's own 3D application, DAZ Studio.

Quote - Daz moderators should keep in mind that upset customers don't spend money with the people who upset them & Poser customers are by far the largest proportion of customers they have, upset us at your own risk.

Do you have some sort of data to back that statement up? How do you know DS users don't outnumber Poser users on their site by now? I'm not a DS user or fan myself, but I don't see how it could possibly have that many less users since it's free and supported at that site.

Quote - > Quote - yeah...I think we'd all rather a site war didn't start. I can understand the frustration, and it's fine to vent, but, rather than bashing DAZ, can we just try to make folks feel welcome here?

EClark, have you posted your stuff in the Freebie forum here? I wouldn't mind taking a peek :)

No, I"ve only ever posted links in the DAZ forum or CP. I also have a download page at my website where people can find the links to all my pose sets.

You should add that link to your site to your signature here so people will always see it! Freebies are well appreicated around here!

o.k., frank, thx fr the line - hit 'em upside the head with a clue-by-four! :lol:

To be fair, my first reply was written before I had gotten down to the warning in the thread.

No offense EClark1894, and I know we don't exactly see eye to eye on some things. but did you consider reporting the OT posts in your freebie thread rather than coming here to complain? The DAZ moderators can't do anything about the problem unless they know about it, and i certainly think it would be fair for you to ask for those offending posts be removed from your thread.

ok I apologize I see that richard did post a warning in the thread for others to stop with the OT posts, so obviously he was aware of it so no need to report but I think the thread should be reviewed and I will ask them to do so.

Will,

I thought Richard did a good job moderating that thread, (and I noted so in that thread)although he did arrive late on the scene. Unfortunately there were some posters that weren't very gracious to Earl, but I'm not sure being a boor violates TOS..

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Think I'll start a new pose set for Ryan.

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Quote - Do you have some sort of data to back that statement up? How do you know DS users don't outnumber Poser users on their site by now? I'm not a DS user or fan myself, but I don't see how it could possibly have that many less users since it's free and supported at that site.

There was an informal poll on the DAZ forums a cuppla months back asking "what is your primary 3D app?" The results were Poser @ approx 37%, D|S @ approx 32%, with Bryce, Carrara, Vue, C4D, Max, LW and Maya in rapidly descending order.

Poser vs D|S is one of the regular causes of thread drift over there of course, but it's usually stopped by the dry wit and gentle hand of Richard H, who's an excellent mod IMO.

The WIP poses for Ryan are looking good EClark - can I make a request for some everyday stand/sit ones as well as the BB style?

Cheers!

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Quote -
There was an informal poll on the DAZ forums a cuppla months back asking "what is your primary 3D app?" The results were Poser @ approx 37%, D|S @ approx 32%, with Bryce, Carrara, Vue, C4D, Max, LW and Maya in rapidly descending order.

Heh - to be fair, it did have the word "primary" in the poll. I primarily use D|S, but I also have and own Poser 4, PPP, and 6.

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Think I'll do just one more for a total of 10 poses on this set.

Quote - DAZ3d is or at least was a subsidiary of Zygote, which supplied Poser with it's first figures all the way up to Poser 4. DAZ3d split from Zygote and started an online store that made and brokered 3D content primarily for the Poser community.

About 4-5 years ago, Poser's continued existence was in doubt (I forget exactly why, but I think it had something to do with Poser being sold yet again to e-Frontier). DAZ3D decided to hedge it's bets and began to create it's own 3D application, DAZ Studio.

The history is as follows:

When P5 went into development, Poser was sold to a parent company in Germany, which approved the sale because, to be blunt, it needed the cash and thought Poser would be an excellent cash cow.

Problem was, they forced the release long before it was ready, and P5 went out riddled with bugs. The development team did what they could, but the resulting bad PR and the disasterous sales forced Poser along to its next owner. The company in Germany, last I heard, went out of business.

DAZ had been talking about developing its own package for some time, and the apparent death of Poser seemed to spur its development team along, which resulted in the near endless series of beta versions before we actually saw Studio 1.0. Poser, meanwhile, was limping along with vers 5 and then 6, which had its own share of issues, and we had all the nonsense about the proposed fees for getting the MilFolk into the Face Room. P7 got the program back on track -- it's arguably the most solid version since 4.

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And I loved P5, prolly because I didn't have much problems with it.

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One point not touched on is in general people based in the US are a touch angry at the moment.
Last year we had fuel prices through the roof
Last year and this year had the bail out to wall street including large bonus paid and even talk of more needed when commercial real estate goes upside down in the coming months.
We had a stimulus package
We bailed out GM and Chrsyler
People in general are scared for their jobs, keeping their house, watching their 401k's evaporate.
From all this and other current issues comes anger of what about me? I paid my taxes, made all my car payments and house payments on time. Yet I am hurting. What or when are you going to do something for-about me? Why should I be punished with the threat of higher taxes and local fees because I did everything right.
Me personally, I don't belong to any group or political party. Yet I have written more letters to my senators and congressmen in the last 12 months, then I probably have in my entire life time.

Look at the how the number of posts in other forums where people mention how cool some new content is yet they have to wish list it and hope they can buy it later. The number of posts like that has increased a lot recently. Those people that can't afford the newest toy because of the current economic conditions get both jealous and angry at the same time.

In a nutshel, it is human nature when you are angry to vent, even if what you are venting about at the time, has nothing to do with the underlying reason you are angry in the first place. Then toss in the underlying Daz-Poser issues as stated in this thread and being a Mod is these times has to be a nightmare more so then at any other time frame.

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Last one. I'll zip these up and post them sometime today on my download page and place a link on the Rendo freestuff page. Since I'm more than just a little p***ed for the moment at DAZ I'm going to withhold these from the Freepository. Maybe by the time I decide to transfer these over to M4 and V4 I'll be in a more forgiving mood.

Oh cool :) New Alyson poses.

Thank you !

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> Quote - Oh cool :) New Alyson poses. > > Thank you !

Well, they're actually for Ryan, but I guess Alyson can use them as well. I'll check and if she can't, I might do a set for her as well.

The Link is now up at my website
and in the Freestuff forum here at Rendo.

These are great poses for Ryan, and I don't have P8. At least you have the talent to make poses - I wish I can master it. I say, thanks for sharing them...

Good Job, EC

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Quote - No love is an empty ssh-stein. Empty!

Where are the people who care about me?

Where are the serving wenches, tee hee.

Mr. Clark, it appears you need to consider some serving wench poses for Alyson! :thumbupboth:

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Quote - > Quote - No love is an empty ssh-stein. Empty!

Where are the people who care about me?

Where are the serving wenches, tee hee.

Mr. Clark, it appears you need to consider some serving wench poses for Alyson! :thumbupboth:

Hmmm, where'd I put my serving wench reference photos?

Actually, you know that probably wouldn't be a bad idea. A set of poses to go along with Faveral's Tavern set. Um, You just want Alyson or V4 too?

Beggars will take whatever they can get and use universal poses or puppetmaster to convert to another character. To work in Faverals Taven would be icing on the cake.

Gary

"Those who lose themselves in a passion lose less than those who lose their passion"

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Quote - Oh cool :) New Alyson poses.

Thank you !

Well, they're actually for Ryan, but I guess Alyson can use them as well. I'll check and if she can't, I might do a set for her as well.

The Link is now up at my website
and in the Freestuff forum here at Rendo.

Many thanks for these. I always find your support for Poser Figures fantastic.
PS: the link above didn't work for me, this one did:
http://clark.freehostia.com/Downloads.html

TKS
DR

"That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves."
Thomas Jefferson

Thanks, DR. The "S" is missing from the end of Downloads.html. Unfortunately I can't change it now.

I can (and did) :) Even on vacation, lol.

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Thanks Jen

No problem :)

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Quote - I can (and did) :) Even on vacation, lol.

If you are on Vacation WTF are you hanging out here for?

EC finally downloaded these and I like.

Poserverse The New Home for NYGUY's Freebies

Mostly, asking questions of BagginsBill, learning P8, and tormenting Jumpstartme2 ;)

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Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it into a fruit salad.

Thanks nyguy. I'll probably get around to finishing the BB poses for Alyson either today or tomorrow.

I was supposed to be finished with my Android comic last week, but I've been playing so much with P8, that... well here's hoping for this weekend. Actually I don't have that much left to do.

Quote - > Quote - No love is an empty ssh-stein. Empty!

Where are the people who care about me?

Where are the serving wenches, tee hee.

Mr. Clark, it appears you need to consider some serving wench poses for Alyson! :thumbupboth:

Tavern wenches need fluffy flouncy skirts!

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You need to speak to Ms. Karanta about fluffy, flouncy skirts and things!:biggrin:

Although, I do think I recall that she's done some textures for the MFD. You could run the dress through WW2 for Alyson and use those textures.

Ms. Karanta: You might consider an MFD for Alyson AND Antonia. JAT

Hm.... nice idea :)

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DAZ Studio wouldn't be popular at all if it wasn't free. That's the only reason why there's competition.

And whoever mentioned about Zygote/DAZ's popularity in relation to Poser is correct, but the "kids" over in the DAZ forums aren't old enough to remember that. I remember when Zygote had only a handful of figures and I think I have them all. All crap compared to what's available now.

If it weren't for the few things I find at the DAZ Store that are worth picking up, I'd leave it all together. I drop in and out of the Platinum Club all the time for that reason. It's like Cartoonland over there and male figures are shunned.

Poser 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, Pro 2014, 11, 11 Pro

Yeah, I've contemplated dropping my PC membership too, but then something like the Dream Home comes around or DAZ sells Poser 7 for $99 bucks...

Quote - male figures are shunned.

Not on the Virile Noir thread (in The Commons), amongst others...
Swing on by and check us out some time!

Quote - And whoever mentioned about Zygote/DAZ's popularity in relation to Poser is correct, but the "kids" over in the DAZ forums aren't old enough to remember that.

ya, There should be a senior discount.

It's not the tool used, it's the tool using it

TZORG - You are the wind beneath my wings...
(Yah, that could be interpreted a number of ways, but I simply adore your SOH)

Quote - DAZ Studio wouldn't be popular at all if it wasn't free. That's the only reason why there's competition.

Subjective opinions aside (there's no way you or I or anyone can tell what made it popular or not), the fact that there is competition, is IMHO a good thing. It forced Smith Micro (and eF, EGISys, etc before that) to innovate, which is a damned good thing. It also (apparently) gave Smith Micro a template for their new UI layout ( half kidding, half glad SM/Poser did that), and the idea to use OpenGL back in the day, among other things.

Quote - And whoever mentioned about Zygote/DAZ's popularity in relation to Poser is correct, but the "kids" over in the DAZ forums aren't old enough to remember that. I remember when Zygote had only a handful of figures and I think I have them all. All crap compared to what's available now.

Bits and Bobs: Zygote still exists separately. Its CEO is (last time I bothered to check - call it 2005) Bryan Brandenberg. See also where Posette and Dork were basically 'open-sourced'. The original modelers for the P4 meshes included (and were headed by) Chris Creek, who is currently VP @ DAZ.

The whole reason "Dazzle" was built in the first place was because of impending fears of Curious Labs dying while Mr. Cooper slowly drowned in anger (don't make me dredge up the threads). The P5 debacle was only the icing on that particular cake, as it had brewed long, long before D|S released even as a first beta. They'd had it mentioned publicly as early as 2002, and began architecting it (IIRC) in 2000-2001.

Finally, the 'get offa my lawn' syndrome won't keep the 3D hobby alive, so kindly take off the Depends already and be nice to the kids, willya? :p

Beautifully said Penguinisto - useful insight and a great summary. Now who is behind that clown make-up I wonder...

Popping back to Dazzleland now, which is not such a bad place to be.

Quote - > Quote - male figures are shunned.

Not on the Virile Noir thread (in The Commons), amongst others...
Swing on by and check us out some time!

Or the Men, men, more men thread. One of my favorites.

The thread got me to thinking, there is somewhat of a distinction between the male characters I was personally drooling over, compared to the male characters the men seem to be enjoying more. Of the male characters, which one is bisexually pleasing to both men and women?

"george look good in Armani" lol

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Mr. Clark don't swing that way! :biggrin:

That's okay. more men for me. lol.

And they shun Meerkats driving buggies.

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I have an issue with the thread known as men, men, men...

And it's not the men.

What on earth is wrong with meerkats driving buggies?

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snort When you get back, {but of course you have to actually leave first before you can actually come back} I think I'll take my vacation....which will probably be like yours.... about..ohhhh..half a day :lol:

I can't miss my daily dose of Rendo...I get withdrawals

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Quote - > Quote - Mostly, asking questions of BagginsBill, learning P8, and tormenting Jumpstartme2 ;)

snort When you get back, {but of course you have to actually leave first before you can actually come back} I think I'll take my vacation....which will probably be like yours.... about..ohhhh..half a day :lol:

I can't miss my daily dose of Rendo...I get withdrawals

I do, too :P I think y'all put crack or something in my internet line :P

Honestly, though, I've done well staying away from the staff forums, LOL. Only the Poser forum to ask questions ;)

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Quote - You need to speak to Ms. Karanta about fluffy, flouncy skirts and things!:biggrin:

Although, I do think I recall that she's done some textures for the MFD. You could run the dress through WW2 for Alyson and use those textures.

Ms. Karanta: You might consider an MFD for Alyson AND Antonia. JAT

Cute! I hope she didn't spill the beer, laying down like that.

Do you think this is her: tee hee

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You know one thing that's always bothered me about women? They put their "wares" on display and then chastise you for looking at them. Drives me crazy! :b_drool:

Yeah either they do, or their moms do.

It's not the tool used, it's the tool using it

Aside from that, it's simply embarassing as a man to realize how much power a woman has over you.

You know who had it sweet.

Remember the vampire in the second Underworld movie? The one holed up in the castle with all the women around him. What a sweet deal, and then he got killed, poor thing. I'd rather remember him the way he was.

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I haven't seen any of the Underworld movies.

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