Mari-Anne opened this issue on Aug 20, 2009 · 15 posts
Mari-Anne posted Thu, 20 August 2009 at 5:07 PM
This is apparently the most recent 7.5 Infinite release in Beta form. Can anyone comment on stability/experience?
Rutra posted Thu, 20 August 2009 at 5:13 PM
I installed it and removed it 10 minutes later. It has the most annoying bug: the duplicate button and shortcut does in fact a scatter. When you try to duplicate it's like right clicking on the scatter/replicate tool. I use the duplicate function so often that this was for me a show-stopper. The previous build works for me perfectly. So that taught me (again) not to change a winning team... :-)
Rutra posted Thu, 20 August 2009 at 5:16 PM
Oh, and by the way, if you do remove it you also have to delete the vue.env file in the environment directory. The standard "cancel last update" function doesn't do a clean job and the consequence is that the opengl shows always a black sky instead of blue with haze.
Mari-Anne posted Thu, 20 August 2009 at 5:46 PM
Yikes, Artur - doesn't sound very promising. Think I'll hold off for now......
sangelico posted Thu, 20 August 2009 at 6:30 PM
Downloaded last night - now I think I'll wait 'til it's no longer beta before I install though...Too little time, I actually used to not mind (enjoy??) beta testing
Mazak posted Fri, 21 August 2009 at 3:16 AM
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:lol: I use 44720 now a few weeks without a problem. :woot: I render many animations Vue run day and night. I am very happy with this release version.
Mazak
Crowning posted Fri, 21 August 2009 at 5:42 AM
Quote - :lol: I use 44720 now a few weeks without a problem. :woot: I render many animations Vue run day and night. I am very happy with this release version.
Mazak
Yep, same here, no problems so far.
Tom
Rutra posted Fri, 21 August 2009 at 6:42 AM
Does the duplicate button work correctly in your case?
Mazak posted Fri, 21 August 2009 at 7:55 AM
In my opinion this is a new feature. If you in Scatter/Duplicate setup to one object it duplicate only one object. If you setup 3 objects you duplicate 3 objects. I like that much. But if I want a quick duplication I use ALT button and mouse drag!
Mazak
Rutra posted Fri, 21 August 2009 at 8:04 AM
I will try this at home tonight. From what I remember, even the alt+drag caused a scatter instead of a duplicate.
Mazak posted Fri, 21 August 2009 at 8:15 AM
It depend on your work-flow. I almost never use the Vue buttons.:closedeyes: I use Copy paste Ctrl+C Ctrl+V. So I can duplicate many objects in seconds. The scatter function I use almost never, I paint a eco system much quicker. :laugh:
Mazak
Mazak posted Fri, 21 August 2009 at 8:23 AM
Maybe you had in your preferences Offset duplicated objects enabled, this looks like you scatter an object instead of duplicate it.
Mazak
Rutra posted Fri, 21 August 2009 at 1:58 PM
Quote - "Maybe you had in your preferences Offset duplicated objects enabled, this looks like you scatter an object instead of duplicate it."
I think I know Vue enough to tell the difference. 
Besides, there's no much possibility for a mistake like that when I press duplicate once and I get 40 objects in a row.
Quote - "I use Copy paste Ctrl+C Ctrl+V. So I can duplicate many objects in seconds."
Why use two keys if I can use only one? Ctrl+D is duplicate. I admit I didn't use ctrl+c ctrl+v, have to try that, maybe the bug doesn't manifest that way, thanks.
Rutra posted Fri, 21 August 2009 at 2:19 PM
See in the image that number I signaled. That number before had effect only for the scatter/replicate dialog. It had no effect anywhere else. Now, in this new build, this number is also relevant for the duplicate tool (regardless of whether you click the duplicate button or press ctrl+d). If you try to duplicate an object, what really happens is that you multiply it, not just duplicate it. In the case of the attached image, if I duplicate any object, I'd get 9 copies of it.
Now, that's really annoying. It means that if I use the scatter/replicate tool, I always have to be careful afterwards to reset the number back to 1. But, anyway, now that I understand it, I can live with it. So, Mazak, thanks for the tip. :-)
Quote - "The scatter function I use almost never, I paint a eco system much quicker."
Mazak, two notes on this:
a) for a 2D area you may be right but for a 3D area that's not correct. It's much faster to scatter multiple copies of an object in a 3-dimensional space than to paint it in an eco.
b) eco paint creates instances that you cannot move, unless you select and turn them into objects (which is much slower than using replicate). The scatter is a great way to have a good number of objects scattered across a volume and then manually adjust individual items.
ShawnDriscoll posted Fri, 21 August 2009 at 4:05 PM
Quote - This is apparently the most recent 7.5 Infinite release in Beta form. Can anyone comment on stability/experience?
I haven't had much problems other than the usual GUI hickups (typed numbers are out of order sometimes). And this build does not crash on me when I overload my Win32-bit system with Poser 6 imports. Vue simply states that my resources are low and asks if I'd like a backup saved quickly to restore my scene with later in the event that I continue going down the wrong path. Vue then restarts and detects that a scene restore file can be loaded if I want. Memory gets freed up. I like this build a lot.
I just have 2GB of RAM.