I have loaded the Kielo 2 morph on V3. Set the head back to V3 which leaves an the neck looking a bit "funny". (I'm not laughing now, I was 2 days ago but not now) I use 2 magnets to get it where I want it and I may use 1 more later under the chin. I have spawned a morph target and also saved the neck as an obj to load as morph target, both of which give results that are worse than the start. (still not laughing). I'm pretty sure I've done this before but darn if I can figure it out this. I feel like I'm missing something simple even in the manuals or forum searches that I've done. Its all been saved as I keep hoping poser elves will correct something each time I turn off the computer and walk away from it. So far no sign of any magical poser elves helping yet. I haven't used magnets in a while (maybe since P6) so thought I'd get an opinion or suggestion if possible. Pretty proud I got it to this point with the help of some mag tutes like Phil C's and others, now if I could just save it. Worse things have happened tho......hi ho and thanx.........