Hello,

I have 4 characters---Victoria 3----two bears called ruf and the other Rik----- and a stand alone character Murphy.

Heres the problem----If I load in to a clean scene--no props.victoria and the two bears I can articulate all of the characters and pose them as I wish.

Now if i then select the character Murpy and load him into the scene ive described above I imeadiatley get the Microsoft warning (crashing program now }}now and the scene is gone.

Now through a process of elimination I have found that the cause is Murpy and the bear Ruf

Murphy works fine alone and with Vic--Rik characters'and any other character

Ruf and rik work fine

.the bears come from the same stable'

Iv never had this experience before.

The problem began with the instalation of ,and loading to scene Murphy

What on earth could be causing this.

pete

look in the cr2 files and see if they appear the same as far as body part names. It sounds like it could be a severe case of crosstalk.

Hello.

Yes ok thanks .i will look Actually Its vicy 4 of course.

pete

Hi again, forgive me but where do I look in the runtime libray for the cr2

pete

the .cr2 will ( or should) be found in the 'Characters' folder in the library

thats what I thought so i went to characyers and ran a search for cr2 found nothing,in fact I looked in Daz people first nothing .they must be there some place because it works ok.may be I seeing it but no recognising it

pete

Ok i found the cr2 by placing the curser over the folder,:) could you explain what to do next,im not an expert.

pete

Open the file(s) in a text editor. Wordpad is fine if you're on Windows, Notepad++ is even better.

Then compare the body part names and see if they're the same - chances are that they are.

you can then opt to alter the names of all bodyparts by adding some4thing, like A or 01 or whatever to them all and see if that fixes it. (so lForearm becomes lForearm01 as an example)

It's tedious but not impossible.

Crosstalk used to be a much bigger problem and it was supposed to be fixed. (I think)
I seem to remember the order of loading figures was important to minimize crosstalk, so if you know one of your bears work ok with the Murphy figure load all others , then bear then Murphy. It might work.

Trekkie has given the perfect solution, but its very tedious cause theres lots of body parts.

Well I thank you all very much for your kind help on this problem
.
One othrer thing. i think that the vendor should put this right dont you?
Ive approached him on this ,even sugested that he purchase the ofending bear to test the two together,sadly he remains silent ont his.

Thabks again

Pete

Hello.
Ive located the Murphy cr2 and understand the proceedure --The bears cr2 is as i found a crz which i belive is a compressed cr2 and can not be edited
,Would there be a solution for this please.

Regards
pete

A crz can be uncompressed with winrar and then opened with a text editor.

Thank you for that ,
be so kind as to explain the proceedure for me.

pete

just rename the file extension on any compressed Poser file to .zip and use any file compression program like WinRar, WinZip, 7Zip etcetra and unzip them. Compressed Poser files that you do this to are as follows:
.obz=.obj
.fcz=.fc2
.crz=.cr2
.pzz=.pz2
.ppz=.pp2
....................get the picture?

Just a wild guess on the crosstalk thing. Make sure you don't have a character selected when you load the new one, click on the background first. That way it won't know which one the morphs should follow.

Hello .
thanks lost in space man---so all i do is change the name of the crz file to .zip and then using win zip compres it and then extract the file and I should have a cr2 is that correct? :)

pete

Hi again.
O K ive done that and still come up with a compressed file--The file name was Rufus so I added .zip--- compressed it with win zip---opened it and its still a crz file --Must be sunday or something

pete

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