Hello,

I have 4 characters---Victoria 3----two bears called ruf and the other Rik----- and a stand alone character Murphy.

Heres the problem----If I load in to a clean scene--no props.victoria and the two bears I can articulate all of the characters and pose them as I wish.

Now if i then select the character Murpy and load him into the scene ive described above I imeadiatley get the Microsoft warning (crashing program now }}now and the scene is gone.

Now through a process of elimination I have found that the cause is Murpy and the bear Ruf

Murphy works fine alone and with Vic--Rik characters'and any other character

Ruf  and rik work fine

.the bears come from the same stable'

Iv never had this experience before.

The problem began with the instalation of ,and loading to scene Murphy

What on earth could be causing this.

pete