Good Morning and Merry Christmas!

Well, I got 6.3 finally!  I'm having some fun just looking around for changes...

Have a question - actually, 2.  First:  In the presets there's a section called "Special Trees".  What are these?  Near as I can tel, it's just 2 trees (Bryce trees) grouped together.  What's the deal?

Second:  Is there a manual for this version of Bryce (6.3)?  I have a manual in PDF format for 5.5.  Couldn't find one for 6.3, though...  

Thanks!  And MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone!

Kevin

The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' (I found it!) but 'That's funny ...'
Isaac Asimov (1920 - 1992)

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2790573

The only other manual I see is the one for 6.1.13.1 at the attached link

As for the trees they are special because there are two of them LOL

Sandy
An imagination can create wonderful things

SndCastie's Little Haven

Appreciate the quick response, but the link is to this post....

Hmm, "special trees" are special because there's two of them?  LOL!  One good thing is that they don't appear to be missing sections any more when placed close by each other...

The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' (I found it!) but 'That's funny ...'
Isaac Asimov (1920 - 1992)

Ooops Sandy...that just led back to this thread>>>LOL...Merry Christmas enny hough.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again

 

 

 

 

 

Attached Link: http://artzone.daz3d.com/wiki/doku.php/pub/software/bryce/start

oops LOL Here is the correct link

Sandy
An imagination can create wonderful things

SndCastie's Little Haven

LOL...good on ya Sandy

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks!

The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' (I found it!) but 'That's funny ...'
Isaac Asimov (1920 - 1992)

Quote - Appreciate the quick response, but the link is to this post....

Hmm, "special trees" are special because there's two of them?  LOL!  One good thing is that they don't appear to be missing sections any more when placed close by each other...

Thats what I named the Library when I gave to DAZ for inclusion of 5.5/6.0...

Unless I am mistaken the idea of these trees was to be able to create huge forested areas without oveloading Bryce.

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And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...

Well, in any case, I don't think I'll be keeping it- or USING it.  It's crashed on me over and over.  It crashes every time I try to import a DAZ figure.  It crashes here and there while in in the DTE...  Too many crashes.

I'll be looking forward to version 7...

Kevin

The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' (I found it!) but 'That's funny ...'
Isaac Asimov (1920 - 1992)

Did you ley it install to the default location...?

DAZ 3D/Bryce...?
And the content went where...?
You didnt let it overwrite 6.1 did you...?

If this happened then you need to save your stuff in 6.1 and re-install 6.3...

I don't have 6.1.  I had 5.5 and did the upgrade to 6.3.  I did the install all by default, I didn't change any directories it wanted to use.

Why?  Does it sound like I screwed it up?

I LOVE Bryce and am VERY disappointed with my 6.3 install, in fact, I have asked for a refund.

Kevin

The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' (I found it!) but 'That's funny ...'
Isaac Asimov (1920 - 1992)

Didnt say you goofed up was just asking...

Did the content all install...
Could it have been a Corrupted download...?

My screw-up was in buying a bug-fix.  :-)  Should've researched more, at least here in the forums.  I would have seen the trouble ahead.

I "think" my install was fine.  All the new content appears to be in it's proper places.  I really LOVE the new one, but I can't import anything I've tried (Was trying to do a figure I put together in DAZ3, but every time I tried to import the figure, it crashed).  I even did some older, plain figures I had left from past scenes I made that I know were not a problem and it still crashed 6.3...  And the render times are horrendous!  I would guess that they are nearly twice as long as 5.5...

The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' (I found it!) but 'That's funny ...'
Isaac Asimov (1920 - 1992)

Slightly OT GreenHawke,   I have an item of yours in Freestuff Pending for which I sent you both a site mail and an e mail about...could you read either and take the appropriate action...thanks..bobbystahr

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, Bobby...  Can you just go ahead and delete it?  I'll do another later...  Don't know WHAT I did to screw that one up....

Read them both, BTW.  Sorry for the lack of response...

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Thanks man and it's deleted now...I understand, what with the hassles 6.3 seems to be causing...glad I held off on installing from lack of time myself now...hope this gets sorted out....this thread may be of value in the long run to others in your position upping from 5.0/5 so maybe thebryster could sticky it.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again

 

 

 

 

 

Stickied.

Am I the only one who is not having a prob with 6.3?

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So far no problems but haven't tried to import something yet

Sandy
An imagination can create wonderful things

SndCastie's Little Haven

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Am I the only one who is not having a prob with 6.3?

I sincerely hope so!  I'm not kidding when I say I love Bryce!  Really bumms me out that I am having ANY trouble with it!  In my case, it may be partially due to the fact I have an older system:  AMD Sempron (1.6gHz), 750mb RAM, 40gb HD...  

But, I'm coming out of "retirement" and going back to the ER (ER nurse)...  Wanted to avoid it, but I gotta pay for my toys!  

Too many cool things I want...  Guess I can handle a few more years for that!

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So sorry that you had problems...
6.3 runs great on my machine...
The renders are slower because of a bug fix from 6.0 fix from 5.5...doh...!

Here's to getting everythang fixed in Bryce7...

Quote - So sorry that you had problems...
6.3 runs great on my machine...
The renders are slower because of a bug fix from 6.0 fix from 5.5...doh...!

Here's to getting everythang fixed in Bryce7...

HERE! HERE!  I am even more excited for Bryce 7!!!

Can't wait!!!

The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' (I found it!) but 'That's funny ...'
Isaac Asimov (1920 - 1992)

No problem here... I imported a taxi car, 3DS and it went fine. Having no problems with 6.3 tho, I'm still confused about that lil 1 thingy that pops up with the ctrl/alt drag combo... :lol:

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OS: Windows 11 64-bit
Poser: Poser 11.3 ...... Units: inches or meters depends on mood
Bryce: Bryce Pro 7.1.074
Image Editing: Corel Paintshop Pro
Renderer: Superfly, Firefly

9/11/2001: Never forget...

Smiles are contagious... Pass it on!

Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday

 

I'll wait for 7, thank you. When that happens.....

My only beef so far is that conformed items imported from DAZ Studio no longer are grouped with the main object (i.e. clothes that are conformed to, say, V4 are not grouped with V4 and are not uniquely named - two objects named V4).
 
Anyone else have this problem?

Its an issue thats been reported ...

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I LOVE Bryce and am VERY disappointed with my 6.3 install, in fact, I have asked for a refund.

Kevin

Just wanted to say that when I got a return email from DAZ they were VERY nice  Gave me a refund no questions asked...  I kinda felt like a heel wanting a refund and all, but they were as nice as can be.  I have no qualms whatsoever over doing any other biz with DAZ any time in the future.

Kevin

The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' (I found it!) but 'That's funny ...'
Isaac Asimov (1920 - 1992)

Its cool...

Listen version 6.3 wasnt for you..maybe 7 will be....

Well, after all the hullabaloo (for em, any way) it's probably just the fact that I need to build another computer.  Seems like only yesterday I put it together, and now it's looking like retiring time for it.  :crying:

There IS a LOT of cool stuff in 6.3, I must say.  I'm looking forward to 7 (AND a new computer)...

Kevin

The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' (I found it!) but 'That's funny ...'
Isaac Asimov (1920 - 1992)

I'll say 7 will be heaven:-P Well a nice pat on the butt maybe, but hold your shorts itsa comin!

Do atleast one thing a day that scares the hell outta ya!!

As far as I can remember, Bryce 5.x was a lot stabler than 6. I've been using 6.3 for some days and it looks stabler than 6.1.

Well that's nice to hear...thanks for posting of your experience with 6.3.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again

 

 

 

 

 

"I'll say 7 will be heaven:-P Well a nice pat on the butt maybe, but hold your shorts itsa comin!"

Been saying that since version 3...  And Bryce 7 has been "coming" for years!  I still feel like Bryce 5 was the most solid of all their releases.

Quote -
"I'll say 7 will be heaven:-P Well a nice pat on the butt maybe, but hold your shorts itsa comin!"

Been saying that since version 3...  And Bryce 7 has been "coming" for years!  I still feel like Bryce 5 was the most solid of all their releases.

Well, I went back to it (v5.5).  But, I'm REALLY looking forward to 7...

I liked Bryce 6.3 as far as the other improvements.  It's just really slow rendering and (for me) crashed on importing.  But, it has some really cool features!  Hence, can't wait for 7!!!

The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' (I found it!) but 'That's funny ...'
Isaac Asimov (1920 - 1992)

To tell the honest truth, I just downloaded 6.3 today.  I wanted to get back to work making some of my custom armor models, and I can't export my meshes.  Why is this the way it is, if anyone can answer me, and how can I make it so that I can actually export?

I actually want to go back to 6.1.  This one takes too long to render, it's preview screen is a little darker, and the overall feel just seems too... loose.  Rushed.

In order to go forward, one must often times look to the past.

Ok, got the first quirk from 6.3 as well. In 6.1, I have a plane, preset material "Maple wood", texture woodbase4 scaled in Object space at  X 138%  Y 138 % Z 138%. I save it to a file and load it up in 6.3 and it became mapped in World space at X, Y, Z = 100. How come? I'm reporting this via Mantis... let's hope that glitches won't be popping up like mushrooms in the next days...

I've reported both my quirk and the mesh export issue. Hope there won't be any new surprises, but I'm afraid that's ony the beginning. Pity, the did fix the raster texture issues, and I was happy of that. It was a short happiness.

I know...  I was hoping the issue with the artifacts made when converting booleaned models into a mesh was fixed with Bryce 6.3.  But, it wasn't.

In order to go forward, one must often times look to the past.

I downloaded 6.3 but haven't installed it yet.  For those who have installed it I've got a couple questions:

1 *  Longer render times*  How much is "longer"?   Any test been run?

2   The new download of "content  Is the same content as 6.1 or is it enhanced?

I've got another question but I'll reserve it for if-and-when I install 6.3.

Thanks

I hate to sound distrustful, but I suspect they release new versions and then rely on public testing to straighten things out. The fact that boolean mesh export simply doesn't work any longer (that's not a "detail" one should miss before releasing something!) seems to somehow substantiate my suspicions.

I installed 6.3, but kept 6.1 installed. I'd advice to do the same, but I don't know if there is any drawback in doing so.

EDIT: I don't think they added anything significant (or anything at all?) to "content" (but I may have missed it) and I didn't do any "render speed test".

Indeed, Bryce hasn't had a decent beta test system since it's dawn, as far as I know.

The tech is so far behind now, Bryce 7 would have to be almost a completely different application to keep up with Vue and Terragen.

Speed test.  A simple mirrored ball takes a half a minute almost in 6.1 with a flat surface and default sky above.  In 6.3, two minutes.  It varies with computers.

In order to go forward, one must often times look to the past.

That's simply brutal... 

If one version of Maya had such a bug, the entire userbase would boycott it outright.  Wait, Maya 2010 was identical to Maya 2009!  We DID boycott it outright!  (well, everyone who wasn't on subscription, anyway...)

Sounds to me like not only has the Bryce development team dwindled, they aren't even testing their updates anymore.

Speed test: two spheres, one glass, the other mirror, two planes, one checkered, one mirror (above).

2'34" in 6.3
1'31" in 6.1

Second test, same file, less reliable because I had the browser running:

2'51" in 6.3
1'39" in 6.1

Aw, come on! They must be joking! I mean, just don't release it!

Has anyone played with the new Lightning Lab?  I didn't have a chance before I returned it...

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and then rely on public testing to straighten things out.

I happen to know that they use a dedicated team of very experienced Brycers who work extremely hard to find and report bugs and test Bryce in as many ways as possible.

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Quote - I happen to know that they use a dedicated team of very experienced Brycers who work extremely hard to find and report bugs and test Bryce in as many ways as possible.

I don't want to disparage people's work, but whoever tested 6.3 missed out that one of the highlighted features of version 6, boolean mesh export, stopped to work altogether, and that render times were noticeably longer. Either it was intended or not, but the result is that these conspicuous flaws have been discovered after DAZ told its users to download and install 6.3, falling, so to speak, on the users' shoulders.

I didn't pay anything for the upgrade from 6.1 to 6.3. I only wonder why it was released with such outrageous bugs. If it wasn't for my innate mistrust, I'd have 6.1uninstalled before installing 6.3, and I would be very pissed by now.

Well, I'm still at a quandary as to installing or not. 

A wishful hopeis  that the slower render times will be a mote question if it is prelude to B7 capable of addressing 64bit machines - render times would drop and be bug free.  Fingers crossed.

Quote - and then rely on public testing to straighten things out.

I happen to know that they use a dedicated team of very experienced Brycers who work extremely hard to find and report bugs and test Bryce in as many ways as possible.

Seems they missed a bit here by all accounts...I haven't done the update but will likely keep 6.1 active even if I do based on other peeps results.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again

 

 

 

 

 

Quote - > Quote - I happen to know that they use a dedicated team of very experienced Brycers who work extremely hard to find and report bugs and test Bryce in as many ways as possible.

I don't want to disparage people's work, but whoever tested 6.3 missed out that one of the highlighted features of version 6, boolean mesh export, stopped to work altogether, and that render times were noticeably longer. Either it was intended or not, but the result is that these conspicuous flaws have been discovered after DAZ told its users to download and install 6.3, falling, so to speak, on the users' shoulders.

I didn't pay anything for the upgrade from 6.1 to 6.3. I only wonder why it was released with such outrageous bugs. If it wasn't for my innate mistrust, I'd have 6.1uninstalled before installing 6.3, and I would be very pissed by now.

6 posts....?
Is any software BUG free...?Vue,Poser,DS...?
In every testing cycle you have either limited resources or you are on a time limit...I am totally sure that both were met in the 6.3 testing cycle and had to be shipped,Unfortunately some things didnt get fixed...
Your lucky to have gotten Bryce 5.5 let alone 6.0+...
Bryce was Dead its now alive...
Some things get Broken to fix other things...
It was also said that it will be fixed in 7 testing cycle...

Well said, Foleypro!

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6 posts, so what? It's what I'm saying different in any way if I have 6 or 6 thousand posts?

I'm glad that development is going on on Bryce, I just can't understand the general attitude to rush software out with such big holes in it, to patch it up later. Release it later, release it better. Just allocate more time to beta testing, otherwise all the trouble will be diverted to the users, and that's just absurd to me.

Quote - 6 posts, so what? It's what I'm saying different in any way if I have 6 or 6 thousand posts?

I'm glad that development is going on on Bryce, I just can't understand the general attitude to rush software out with such big holes in it, to patch it up later. Release it later, release it better. Just allocate more time to beta testing, otherwise all the trouble will be diverted to the users, and that's just absurd to me.

Time...
resources..MONEY...

To fix everything in Bryce is going to take alot of MONEY and TIME...
This is just fixes and New CODE...
Not too mention the new features that will be developed...

Ya I said 6 Posts and you said 6000...

The Fixes in 6.3 are so far superior then what was done in 6.1 ...Period
Yes its still has bugs...And yes its a slower Rendering engine..Fix whats Broken...In the rendering I would Gladly take 2 minutes more rendering per frame if it ment I get a way crisper and BRYCE Type of render and not a render like you see in other Favs software...
is there a View...?

Ok enough from me...
I respect your opinion on what you feel wasnt a "Right Thang To Do"..
And I say sorry if I really stepped on toes here...
But to DIS people that cant defend themselves isnt cool...
Betatesters are on an NDA and cant say they are on the team...
So to have folks DIS them and SAY well I might have,Could have,should have....

So yes...

6.3 is a FREE upgrade and still installs into a different location...Hence you can still keep your 6.1

 

Mine was just a customer/final user consideration on a product, to share my experience with other customers/users. I'm not supposed to know how the development works. I just find this product, 6.3, too buggy for my tastes, I would have liked it released later but better, and I think I have the right to share this (however uninformed) view with other users. Just that.

@foleypro

Please take no offense at my inquiry.  I was seeking shared knowledge of members here.  Why have so few answered my original request?  I don't know.  Things like a "better render engine" has never been mentioned before in this forum. 

@ all others

I'm looking for information only, not slams on Daz or its staff.  Other than the couple threads here I am in the dark.   I got it free.  That is nice.  The email notification of the reset download didn't explain anything of substance.  It would be most appreciated if anyone here could help us understand what was addressed and what still needs to be improved.  I love Bryce and experience limited crashes or problems; but, I don't tend to push the envelop as much as some.  I still think it the best, simplest and most affordable. 

If it were a $2000 app and the public was asked to pay $300 for a bug fix it would be different.  I appreciate the splendid images it produces and applaud the affordability. 

But I'm just a hobbyist so what do I know.  

"Please take no offense at my inquiry."

I would never take offense to anyone with a legit inquiry...?

I will help you in anyway I can...

I don't know if this workaround is already known, however Boolen models can be cobverted to meshes in 6.3, saved to a file, loaded in 6.1 and then exported to external formats.

Yes, but the resulting meshes will not solidify once they are ported back into Bryce.

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You mean that you can't render them "Solid when boolean rendering"? On my PC it works - I can use the reimported meshes in further boolean operation,,,

EDIT: But mayve they don't behave properly... I don't know...

*You mean that you can't render them "Solid when boolean rendering"?

*Exactly that!
I'd love to know how you managed to get them to work if that is the case. I've never been able to use them in booleans.

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I could "cut" this widget with a cube, but I had to ungroup the import group and set the spherical "notch" as neutral. I guess I was too optimistic saying it works.

I thought that Bryce 6.3 may have been created to solve problems with importing, etc., from the new Daz 3 Advanced.  A friend of mine could not import from either 6.0 or 6.1 to Daz 3 Adv.  On the Daz forums there were others with this problem.  I phoned the tech line at Daz and the tech said they were "working on it".  Then a short time later and I see the new 6.3 version is out.   If there are so many problems with the 6.3 and you want to continue to use 6.1, are there any updates for 6.1 that corrected the importing problem?  I hesitate to install 6.3 now and lose 6.1 if there are major problems with it as well. 
Thanks for any advice.

My personal experience is that installing 6.3 doesn't disrupt the functioning of 6.1 (as long as you don't install them in the same place/directory, it goes without saying).

I have an external drive that I install the render programs to.  Could I install Bryce 6.3 on the same drive?  I did install DS 3 Advanced on this drive after leaving my DS2.3 as an installed program on it.   Both work.

Look, I'm no DAZ software expert (in fact, I'm no software expert at all), but I'd say that as long as you install to a different directory, same drive or not, it should be fine.

Yes you can install any where you like it doesnt matter..

Me  I prefer where DAZ wants it but I change the name like instead of Bryce I added a 6.3 and a 7 to the end of the installer because I didnt want to ovetrwrite my 6.3.

Thank you both for your input and time.  I appreciate it very much.