I used Poser for years, up to Poser 7, but stopped, following a succession of crashes. Recently, I purchased Poser 8, V4, M4 and  a lot of items from Renderosity and Daz at something in excess of $700. Then, when P8 demanded too much of my computer, I bought a bigger one. 14 miserable days later, 14 days of constant one-step-forward-two-steps-back, and I have managed to produce only one - hugely flawed - render. One problem after another, most recently P8 failing to find my library. Thanks to some advice I got from here, I temporarily solved that problem by deleting the PrefLibrary, but the problem popped back up and the solution no longer works. 
This is bullshit!
Do we need a reality check, enduring and supporting such a crappy product?  

Quote - Do we need a reality check, enduring and supporting such a crappy product?  

That's why I prefer Linux to  Windows... :biggrin:

As far as Poser 8 goes I use it on a 3-year old Dual core laptop with XP pro and SR 2.1 and have virtually no issues.  My copy of Poser 7 is on an old 1.6 GHz Pentium M laptop and it runs quite adequately.   Perhaps you should get reacquainted with the software with some simpler renders and work up to where you want to be.  Lighting in particular is quite different in Poser 8

For the price, it is hard to beat Poser.  I'm sure 3DS Max is better, but; it costs over 25 times as much as Poser right now...

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I'm one of the few people who have had no problems with Poser 8 whatsoever so far...

Laurie

You are pardoned. I feel sorry for the pain you are going through.

I have used every Poser version since Poser 7 (I'm quite new at this game), and I am seeing improvements in stability with every new release (at least, on Mac).

I know that does not really help you, shorterbus. I only mention it to try to give you some faith that whatever problems you are having with Poser can be resolved, and that the product is not really as stinky as it seems right now. :O)

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)

Sorry to hear your problem, I remember your renders fondly.

I too have no problems with Poser 8.  There were some problems fixed by services packs, but I was not using those methods at the time.

When I bought new computer with Vista installed, every graphic program I had stopped working for me. I demand to maker to "side-grade" me back to XP.  No problems since.  Maybe I am lucky, but there are so many possible combinations of hardware and software, that some systems will be stinkers not matter what.

Quote - I'm one of the few people who have had no problems with Poser 8 whatsoever so far...

Laurie... I think you are one of the many, not one of the few. People with problems are heard in the forum; far more people with no problems are just quietly rendering away.

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)

True enough. A lot of people posting in the galleries aren't seen much on the forums, and I'm sure there are many more who don't do either.

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Software: Windows 10 Professional/Poser Pro 11/Photoshop/Postworkshop 3

Quote - > Quote - I'm one of the few people who have had no problems with Poser 8 whatsoever so far...

Laurie... I think you are one of the many, not one of the few. People with problems are heard in the forum; far more people with no problems are just quietly rendering away.

True, true ;o).

Laurie

Quote - Do we need a reality check, enduring and supporting such a crappy product?

Don't give up on Poser.  Love Poser, even while you hate it.  :lol:  But do tell Smith Micro about your problems and dissatisfaction.  I worked with their technical support personnel for about a month, trying to get Poser 8 to work properly on my system.  Most of the problems were solved, and they were quite helpful, as far as it went.  Unfortunately, a couple of issues remain which they couldn't explain.  They told me there was nothing more they could do, and closed my incident ticket, stating that no one had reported any problems like mine without an obvious cause for the problem.

So we all need to report our problems to them, to be sure they're advised of everything that's going wrong with Poser 8.  Otherwise, there may be more like myself who are turned away because we seem to be a negligible minority.  Serious issues which don't affect everyone may never be corrected.

My remaining problems seem likely to be linked to the new library process.  Something about that new library is seemingly ill-conceived or very badly handled.

SM did seem to state pretty clearly that there will be at least one more Service Release for Poser 8.

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Cage can be an opinionated jerk who posts without thinking.  He apologizes for this.  He's honestly not trying to be a turkeyhead.

Cage had some freebies, compatible with Poser 11 and below.  His Python scripts were saved at archive.org, along with the rest of the Morphography site, where they were hosted.

Thanks for the encouraging comments.

To Cage in particular who worked with Smith Micro technical support for a month to get the bugs out of the program he purchased - that is my whole point. The prevailing attitude seems to be that Smith Micro is great and will go to great lengths to support their product, but I think we should be looking at it from a different angle -  A month of grief (how many hours) and then you had to settle for some of your problems being solved and YOU are the paying customer.

We are settling for too little. Just today, I bought a product here at Rendo from Billy-T. It included an eye morph that, once applied, the character could no longer close her eyes. No mention of this in any of Billy's product info, and I promise you I spent a lot more time trying to solve the problem than it would have taken Billy Boy to mention it in his product literature.

I asked SM about my poser either freezing up or not loading and they just kept telling me it was 'my' system.   I use IE7 and XP professional.
My graphic cards, and even they admitted were the best I could get for using Poser with.
My computer is purpose built as my work is all about graphics  so I know its top of the range system that does have the capacity to easily handle Poser. 
I used to be able to have 2 graphics programs open and running without a problem but whatevr they've done means either I have Poser running or PSP running.  And if I use one I have to reboot after closing one so I can open the other one!!!! 

I'm fed up with Suppliers like SM just blaming something else.....never their problem/fault.

Unfortunately there is no big choice when it comes to things that do what Poser does.
I have never used DAZ  because I've heard everyone say Poser produces a better render and is a heck of a lot easier to work with.   

Shame cos otherwise people could boycott places till they sit up and take notice.

"And if I use one I have to reboot after closing one so I can open the other one!!!!  "

that points to a problem in the system right there other than the programs mentioned. seriously. I'm not just saying that to be smart or anything. if I had that problem, I'd be running over my system with a fine tooth comb to find the problem.

 Poser 8 is a great product with many flaws that crop up randomly on many different computers..

Please do not ask Me why..  I just do not know.   When I was experiencing these problems on My iMac  I was trying to get it through to Smith Micro,  but they could never duplicate the problem.  I replaced My Hard drive,  had a tech specialist from apple spend a weekend at My Home..  All to no good at all.  Then along came SR 2.1 and everything goes away except for everything else running so D**n slow..  This I can live with.

Poser Pro 2010 is so much better in all areas for Me except for the slowness it creates in other apps..

Quote - I asked SM about my poser either freezing up or not loading and they just kept telling me it was 'my' system.

I received a lot of that from technical support while I worked with them.  A couple of times I fear I threw a wobbly and lost my temper with them.  :lol:    An ugly way to behave on my part, but they changed their tone after that, at least for a while.  They had me run every system diagnostic they could come up with, finally admitted my system was in good health, then closed my ticket anyway.

Really, really hoping they're secretly struggling to fix P8 and the next SR will work the same kind of magic as the last one, but more fully.

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Cage can be an opinionated jerk who posts without thinking.  He apologizes for this.  He's honestly not trying to be a turkeyhead.

Cage had some freebies, compatible with Poser 11 and below.  His Python scripts were saved at archive.org, along with the rest of the Morphography site, where they were hosted.

 I remember that while I was ranting and raving about the condition of P8 someone saying that P5 was the worst with a total of 5 SR's..  If there is another for P8 that will equalize the tally..

Hello,
I feel that quality is improving with the latest Poser releases.

My problems with the library loading time have been solved with the upgrade to
Poser Pro 2010 full version, speed is much better than before, and the only
crashes / hangups I had were in the hair room, I no other issues.

Best regards,
  Michael

I feel your pain, shorterbus. P8 ran great for about 2 weeks on my system, then basically didn't run at all for about a month (used P7 during that time). I just reinstalled it 2 days ago(P8), and now it's...eh, okay. The firefly engine is wonderful (way faster than P7) but, the rest of the interface is a joke! I really hope things turn out good for Pro2010, as SM seems to have basically forgotten all about lil' ol P8. Can't blame them really....

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PoserPro2012, Photoshop CS4 and Magix Music Maker

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...and when the day is dawning...I have to say goodbye...a last look back into...your broken eyes.

It is NOT my system......sorry..........I can run 20 other graphics programs at the same time and not a single one of them freezes, crashes, wont open, wont work properly at all........it is only Poser that causes the conflict.  I can have 3 versions of PSP open,  Scrapbooking programs, Photo collage program, Bryce, Vue, and anything else I have.......and they all work fine,  dont stop each other from opening or working together. 

If I try and use Poser after using any other program it wont open...just either goes to a white screen and thats as far as it will go  ot it will get to the flash screen then just close itself.

If I try and use any other program after using Poser  they wont load. 

Poser is in conflict with everything else.  Its definately Poser!!!
Like I said...my system was built purposely for graphics as thats my business!!
Have had our tech go through everything he could think of and he said its the program (Poser) that is unstable.   

Well recently I had "out of memory" crashes associated with Poser 8 and the Poser Pro 2010 beta test version, but none back when I was using Poser 7 and Poser Pro. My system RAM is 4 GB and I've been using my laptop for rendering for several years with no such problem, until I started using Poser 8 that is. Can someone tell me what I should do to get rid of this problem, should I upgrade my operating system to Windows 7 or not?

For me Poser 8 is slower to work with. I get random whitescreens and "Poser is not responding" on my Vista laptop. It often happens when I've clicked on a button and nothing happens so I click again. To be fair Vue used to do this and always crashed Poser starts working again 5 to 10 seconds later. I solved the Vue issue by installing direct to the c drive and not in the programs folder, did the same with Poser 7 and 8. In Poser 7 this solved a problem I'd had saving to collections. I have had Poser 7 and Poser 8 running at the same time as I needed to check my old render presets. No problerms on the older and lower spec desktop running xp yet. Neither of my graphics cards are remotely state of the art so I'm pleased that I can run Poser 8 at all.

Quote - It is NOT my system......sorry..........I can run 20 other graphics programs at the same time and not a single one of them freezes, crashes, wont open, wont work properly at all........it is only Poser that causes the conflict.  I can have 3 versions of PSP open,  Scrapbooking programs, Photo collage program, Bryce, Vue, and anything else I have.......and they all work fine,  dont stop each other from opening or working together. 

If I try and use Poser after using any other program it wont open...just either goes to a white screen and thats as far as it will go  ot it will get to the flash screen then just close itself.

If I try and use any other program after using Poser  they wont load. 

Poser is in conflict with everything else.  Its definately Poser!!!
Like I said...my system was built purposely for graphics as thats my business!!
Have had our tech go through everything he could think of and he said its the program (Poser) that is unstable.   

no. sorry. it IS. but if you don't believe me then thats upto you. but when you do find the problem, please let me know. I won't say 'I told you so' I promise.

Quote - It is NOT my system......sorry..........I can run 20 other graphics programs at the same time and not a single one of them freezes, crashes, wont open, wont work properly at all........it is only Poser that causes the conflict.  I can have 3 versions of PSP open,  Scrapbooking programs, Photo collage program, Bryce, Vue, and anything else I have.......and they all work fine,  dont stop each other from opening or working together. 

If I try and use Poser after using any other program it wont open...just either goes to a white screen and thats as far as it will go  ot it will get to the flash screen then just close itself.

If I try and use any other program after using Poser  they wont load. 

Poser is in conflict with everything else.  Its definately Poser!!!
Like I said...my system was built purposely for graphics as thats my business!!
Have had our tech go through everything he could think of and he said its the program (Poser) that is unstable.   

It is quite frustrating when things don't work the way they should and I feel your pain in that you have a top notch system that is having issues with a particular app. Possibly sharing your system specs might reveal something, someone else having the same setup with the same problems, or no problems at all.
XP Pro x64bit (sp2)
Nvidia 9800 gtx
EVGA mobo 750i
Intel Q6600
GSkil PC2 6400 (8 gigs)

I'm one of the peps that hasn't had a single issue with Poser, am running both P8 and P2010. I sometimes run Max, Poser and Photoshop all at the same time, not often but sometimes.
Yes, occasionally Poser will just crash for no reason...a full reboot solves this. Not the optimum fix but it happens less than once every 2 months.

Comitted to excellence through art.

I can run Poser 8 and Photoshop as well. It's rather slow, but it runs :o). I can even run my modeler at the same time too, since I make content and jump between the three a lot ;o). I have dual-core Intel @1.6ghz, 3 gigs of ram and video on the mobo, so my system is NOT top of the line...lol. And it runs Windows Shitsta to boot, albeit I crippled it by turning off Aero and indexing ;o).

Laurie

At the risk of sounding like a simpleton...

An easy way to prove whether or not the problem is system related is to do a complete reformat and reinstall of the operating system. At that point the OS will be pristine. Then reinstall Poser and content (from the install files... NOT a backup.) 

I know you won't do this, but this is what it took for me to resolve a problem with Poser 7 lo these many moons ago. IT was worth the time to reinstall my 8000 plus content items.

I have had no problems with either P8 or PP2010 since the SR's.

I am able to run my modeler and photoshop with Poser at the same time, but not with Zbrush it crashes every time when run with Zbrush. I dont know why, but it may be a clue. I just dont run Zbrush together with Poser. :)

Quote -
An easy way to prove whether or not the problem is system related is to do a complete reformat and reinstall of the operating system. At that point the OS will be pristine. Then reinstall Poser and content (from the install files... NOT a backup.)

Not necessarily, as it still could be bad RAM, which is dreadful to diagnose.  I use Memtest and run it for a day or so when I build/acquire a system:

www.memtest86.com/download.html

You burn it to a CD, boot from the CD and let it run.

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"Oh - the manual says that? I have never read the manual - this must be why."
“I could buy better software, but then I'd have to be an artist and what's the point of that?"
"The [R'osity Forum Search] 'Default' label should actually say 'Don't Find What I'm Looking For'".
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 I reformated My Drive twice when I had issues.  It did nothing to solve the problem.

New Hard drive and RAM also did not solve any problems..

SR 2.1 was the big fix for Me..   I hope SR 3 or 4 will work for You...

I can confirm that poser versions don't run well on one computer but do run well on another.
however, it's a bit disingenuous to see confident testimonials to how stable poser is, or
(e.g. in mac forum here) how software is "rock-solid", then I go to the gallery of the testifier and
it sez "this member hasn't uploaded anything yet".  it means alot more when somebody testifies
to how stable poser is if they have done some complex IDL renders IMVHO.  like bill has uploaded
a buttload of IDL imgs to this forum, hence if he sez poser is stable, I believe him.

p.s. as P8 is obsolete now, I dunno if they've got the budget to do any more patches.

I have Poser 8 but only use it occaionally to render. I hate the library. I still use Poser 6 to set up my renders, then render them in Poser 7 because for some reason not of my premade lights work right in Poser 7. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, they say. So use your old programs and see if they will give you your money back on Poser 8.

"p.s. as P8 is obsolete now, I dunno if they've got the budget to do any more patches."

no, it's not. 2 product lines. Poser 8 and Poser Pro 2010.
both are carrying on. poser 8 will be obsolete when Poser 9 comes.

" then I go to the gallery of the testifier and
it sez "this member hasn't uploaded anything yet".  it means alot more when somebody testifies
to how stable poser is if they have done some complex IDL renders IMVHO."

and what does that mean?

example: I have no poser renders here. I did as KHAI my old login. but when that was shut down, I deleted my gallery and started over.

do I suddenly have no knowledge of poser? by your statement there, I forgot everything I did with poser 5,6,7,Pro....

I don't post renders much anymore because I'm busy making content, NOT because I don't know how to do a render ;o).

Laurie

Quote - Hello,
I feel that quality is improving with the latest Poser releases.

My problems with the library loading time have been solved with the upgrade to
Poser Pro 2010 full version, speed is much better than before, and the only
crashes / hangups I had were in the hair room, I no other issues.

Best regards,
  Michael

Hang on... that's not a solution. Poser Pro isn't the next version it's a sidegrade, a different application. It's true that a lot of improvements regarding the library have been made, but those should be in Poser 8 also, since it facing the same issues and shortcomings. If the solution for solving problems with Poser 8 is buying Poser Pro 2010 then we're in big problems. It means we're left with a half done (OK that's a bit of an overstatement, I know) application and to get it working were forced to buy a new version that in essence isn't even the next version at all. That's no good.

As for the library, just learn how to edit LibraryPrefs.xml manually, install one of the excellent alternatives and delete the one in Poser 8 completele. (The library is a folder of that is situated in runtime/ui, I think the folder name is flex, not 100% sure since I removed it). Solves a lot of problems and Poser 8 runs like never before without the library. But make sure you know how to edit LibraryPrefs.xml and have an alternative library installed, otherwise you cannot reach any of your runtimes.

Artwork and 3DToons items, create the perfect place for you toon and other figures!

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?vendor=23722

Due to the childish TOS changes, I'm not allowed to link to my other products outside of Rendo anymore :(

Food for thought.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYZw0dfLmLk

Quote - As for the library, just learn how to edit LibraryPrefs.xml manually, install one of the excellent alternatives and delete the one in Poser 8 completele. (The library is a folder of that is situated in runtime/ui, I think the folder name is flex, not 100% sure since I removed it). Solves a lot of problems and Poser 8 runs like never before without the library. But make sure you know how to edit LibraryPrefs.xml and have an alternative library installed, otherwise you cannot reach any of your runtimes.

Ooh! This is something I must try!  Thank you!  :thumbupboth:

Apologies to BagginsBill.  I love the new design of the library, but it does seem to bring along with it a series of complications, on my system, which SM can't fix properly.  If they fix it, I'll use it.

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Cage can be an opinionated jerk who posts without thinking.  He apologizes for this.  He's honestly not trying to be a turkeyhead.

Cage had some freebies, compatible with Poser 11 and below.  His Python scripts were saved at archive.org, along with the rest of the Morphography site, where they were hosted.

Quote - I can confirm that poser versions don't run well on one computer but do run well on another.
however, it's a bit disingenuous to see confident testimonials to how stable poser is, or
(e.g. in mac forum here) how software is "rock-solid", then I go to the gallery of the testifier and
it sez "this member hasn't uploaded anything yet".  it means alot more when somebody testifies
to how stable poser is if they have done some complex IDL renders IMVHO.  like bill has uploaded
a buttload of IDL imgs to this forum, hence if he sez poser is stable, I believe him.

I never have posted in the Gallery here.  I'm not even sure how to.  I have a couple here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/rodschaffter/CG#

Lately I've been working through a bunch of BB tutorials lately, and haven't been rendering much worth posting-Renders of procedural textures and of fooling with lighting primitives just aren't that thriling.

I have some old SP shoes from DAZs'  Dress For Success  that I've been working on getting the buckles shiny under IDL-I suppose I could post that......

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“I could buy better software, but then I'd have to be an artist and what's the point of that?"
"The [R'osity Forum Search] 'Default' label should actually say 'Don't Find What I'm Looking For'".
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there is no doubt in my mind the P8 is doing something. I , too, used to run multiple apps. No more with P8. It even brings my browser to its knees. Its P8 or nothing....period. The browser locks up. I had P8 loaded yesterday with nothing in the document window...just minimzed. I was on the net...the browser was pausing on a regular basis ... could ot really surf, had to wait until the bowser got some CPU time. Why would an app use up the cpu cycles when its not even doing anything>

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle, 1854

Quote - there is no doubt in my mind the P8 is doing something. I , too, used to run multiple apps. No more with P8. It even brings my browser to its knees. Its P8 or nothing....period. The browser locks up. I had P8 loaded yesterday with nothing in the document window...just minimzed. I was on the net...the browser was pausing on a regular basis ... could ot really surf, had to wait until the bowser got some CPU time. Why would an app use up the cpu cycles when its not even doing anything>

did you have anything like a light selected? there is a known bug on that.

Quote - there is no doubt in my mind the P8 is doing something. I , too, used to run multiple apps. No more with P8. It even brings my browser to its knees. Its P8 or nothing....period. The browser locks up. I had P8 loaded yesterday with nothing in the document window...just minimzed. I was on the net...the browser was pausing on a regular basis ... could ot really surf, had to wait until the bowser got some CPU time. Why would an app use up the cpu cycles when its not even doing anything>

I have been asking this same question for several months now...  It has been My computer,   My mind (or lack of one..),  browsers have been mentioned on several occasions,  flash was blamed for everything except the dog having kittens..  An accelerating bowl of petunias has even been quoted but offers nothing as a solution..

nothing loaded ...well ...there are 3 lights loaded in the default doc window..so Yes..there were lights.
That's probably why my mother used to always yell

TURN THE DAMN LIGHTS OFF !!!

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle, 1854

For those with issues... some I have helped... (or tried) and some I am not sure if you have contacted Support, but I may have helped.... When "I" say it is an issue System Related or Unique to your system, is because I, one of the other staff members, or the Beta testers have not been able to duplicate the issue using the steps provided on other systems. The other case where I will say something is System related is when it does not happen in Full Diagnostic Mode or SafeBoot. If the issue is with Poser, it will also occur in Diagnostic Mode. If it does not, it means that one of the system processes or operations is conflicting with Poser. These are things that can be addressed in most cases by changing settings on the conflicting software.

I have done a lot of Software Testing, I own a lot of software.... I can say this without a doubt... there is no way to test every factor that may cause an issue; and yes, there can be issues that are unique to certain systems. I have 12 different systems in my Office and if you factor in the few MultiBoot Systems and VM Fusion support on MACs, I have 17 different systems to try out steps. My Intel Graphics on one of my four Laptops does not support OpenGL fully in Poser... is this Poser's fault when it works with every other video graphics I have or is the blame Toshiba's which does not offer an update for the Video Graphics for my Laptop? Some people say we should make it work with every piece of hardware out there, but the reason there is no update for the graphics Chipset is not because it is not needed, but is because Toshiba does not offer one... there are other Laptop brands with the same Graphics Chip that OpenGL Poser does work with.. difference is the manufacturer offers a newer driver than Toshiba does for my Laptop. Intel does not offer drivers directly, so I have to rely on Toshiba. 

Also, no one has ever said that just because it is a System specific issue, does not mean it is not an issue with Poser. We have had users with issues that we could not duplicate on other systesm, but they were able to provide specific repeatable steps to duplicate. Even if we can not duplicate it specifically, sometimes this information is enough to allow the engineers to find and fix an issue. (or we can contact one of the Beta Testers that do have a similar system to test)

The ones that are the hardest are the ones that do not have specific steps to duplicate and do not have consistancy (occur Randomly according to the customer) To fix an issue we need to duplicate it or know exact steps to duplicate.

When a user contacts Support about an issue. If I know the cause or solution, I will let the user know. If I never have seen it, I look it up in our database of all issues dating back to Poser 5. I also look them up in our User Support Database to see if we have any other incidents. If the database or other incident indicates a solution, I pass that on to the user... Delete Preferences, Update Program, Update System (Driver, OS, support software, etc...), and so on... 

If there is no report, no solutions available, and if I can not duplicate the issue reported;  I will go through steps to try to isolate the issue with the user. If I still can not duplicate, I will get others to test (or even when I can duplicate, I often have one the Engineers test to make sure I did not miss a solution) I or the Engineer will write up the issue even if only the customer can duplicate when they can provide specific steps to duplicate. If the user can not provide specific steps, there is nothing to write up to be reported (There are blanks to fill in, and one is steps to duplicate). My only hope is another user will have the same issue and contact support with some detail  that has been missed or not thought of as significant by other users and we can then confirm with the previous user that encountered the issue and then write up the report.

ratscloset
aka John

Quote - nothing loaded ...well ...there are 3 lights loaded in the default doc window..so Yes..there were lights.
That's probably why my mother used to always yell

TURN THE DAMN LIGHTS OFF !!!

I am sure that what was meant was not to have a light selected in Parameters..!

Quote - did you have anything like a light selected? there is a known bug on that. 

I thought the problem was with a camera selected...

The CPU usage in Poser 8 is Lights or Cameras being the current Actor selected.

ratscloset
aka John

see, known bug and there's a SR a comin' so....

Quote - see, known bug and there's a SR a comin' so....

May work for some....     But it won't for Me.!

OK ... so we wait.
when is that SR coming ?

Don't say soon

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle, 1854

ok i wont say that.
how about 'in the foreseeable recent future period of time but still unspecified in an exact context' ?

Quote - OK ... so we wait.
when is that SR coming ?

Don't say soon

The length of a piece of string divided by the colour of the third door on the right added to the cost of a pangalactic gargleblaster on tuesdays...   ;0))     Oh,,     and watch out for the falling brick..

Soon... (c;

ratscloset
aka John

Ah yes...the oft-used and always uncertain SOON....lol ;o) If I didn't know you worked for SM I'd think you were from Daz...lmao.

Laurie

the trap is set.

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle, 1854

Quote - the trap is set.

Ah...  Yessss.....  But with what kind of cheese..???

CHEESE! Did someone say Cheese?.. I always have had this weakness for Cheese and will spill the beans (out of the bean bowl) to take any offers of Cheese!

ratscloset
aka John

Quote - Soon... (c;

Thank goodness this isn't a certain other Forum, or we'd be waiting a looong time...

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Quote - CHEESE! Did someone say Cheese?.. I always have had this weakness for Cheese and will spill the beans (out of the bean bowl) to take any offers of Cheese!

How about a Nice Stilton,   delicately dipped in a well matured port..

Quote - 14 miserable days later, 14 days of constant one-step-forward-two-steps-back, and I have managed to produce only one - hugely flawed - render.

Maybe its time to try a new renderer.  If you have a decent nVidia graphics card then I would recommend the new GPU accelerated Octane Render which is currently being offered at half price during beta testing.  Save out in obj and import into Octane for rendering.  See if that solves your problem.

I never had problems with Poser or really any other program until I installed Vista. I ended up going back to XP on my laptop. And installed W7 on the desktop as soon as I could. XP seems more stable than W7. When funds allow, I am looking to get a more powerful desktop with XP installed.

Nolos
I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!

'I'm paying for this movie. I want guns'

Speaking of Poser 8 taking over CPU cycle, I just installed a script that allows turning on and off the P8 library.
Guess what. My problems have now ended. All is speedy again.

Crap library ? Where is it going all the time?

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle, 1854

I'm thinking HeadCheese might be the ticket

Quote - > Quote - the trap is set.

Ah...  Yessss.....  But with what kind of cheese..???

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle, 1854

Poser is a great app for what it does, but it doesn't do everything great. It never has and even if it ever does, it will just chew up too much in resources. For character creation and scene setup, there's nothing better . . . .

I'll never turn away from Poser . . . .  6!

I have P8 on five 'pooters and PP2010 on two, all running fine.  I have a mix of WinXP 32bit, Vista 32bit, Vista 64bit.

And how does P8/PP2010 preview tiled materials on your machine?  Does it show one instance of the texture image across the whole material zone (i.e., untiled), or do you see the materials properly tiled in preview?  Needless to say, being able to see just where the edges will line up is a great benefit when dialing in material settings.

SreeD preview - tiling is lost

OpenGL preview with hardware shading used - materials are properly tiled:

Look at your settings in the render settings, preview tab:

Poser 12, in feet.  

OSes:  Win7Prox64, Win7Ultx64

Silo Pro 2.5.6 64bit, Vue Infinite 2014.7, Genetica 4.0 Studio, UV Mapper Pro, UV Layout Pro, PhotoImpact X3, GIF Animator 5

The P8 library is talking to Poser to ask it if its OK to show you things. As you switch rooms or select different objects in the scene, it changes what you see. The technique employed does not cost much performance at all on 99% of users machines.  For some systems, it does. Nobody knows why.

We changed the mechanism in Poser Pro 2010, so there is no polling anymore. The P8 SR3 will include the new version.

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Quote - CHEESE! Did someone say Cheese?.. I always have had this weakness for Cheese and will spill the beans (out of the bean bowl) to take any offers of Cheese!

I'm finding Goat Cheese mighty tasty these days!

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SreeD preview - tiling is lost

I actually like the look of that big face on the roof!

Quote - The P8 library is talking to Poser to ask it if its OK to show you things. As you switch rooms or select different objects in the scene, it changes what you see. The technique employed does not cost much performance at all on 99% of users machines.  For some systems, it does. Nobody knows why.

We changed the mechanism in Poser Pro 2010, so there is no polling anymore. The P8 SR3 will include the new version.

My system is one that that it does cost system resources. I installed D3D's Start/Stop Flex Library and it helped a lot as far as speeding things up :o).

Laurie

Quote - Poser is a great app for what it does, but it doesn't do everything great. It never has and even if it ever does, it will just chew up too much in resources. For character creation and scene setup, there's nothing better . . . .

I'll never turn away from Poser . . . .  6!

And nor will This old Geezer...      Sometimes I just like to bitch....   Getting older,  but not too much wiser..!

Quote - > Quote - Poser is a great app for what it does, but it doesn't do everything great. It never has and even if it ever does, it will just chew up too much in resources. For character creation and scene setup, there's nothing better . . . .

I'll never turn away from Poser . . . .  6!

And nor will This old Geezer...      Sometimes I just like to bitch....   Getting older,  but not too much wiser..!

If you're just getting into Poser, no reason not to start with the latest version, but the upgrades only seem to upgrade things I don't use Poser for, mainly rendering. I really can't think of anything I'd want Poser to do that P6 doesn't do and doubt I'd render in it if it were as stable as the apps I do use because I can continue to work in Poser while I'm rendering elsewhere.